Anyone know a working RAW camera for the lumia 920? The greenish tint in dark areas are really annoying when I take pictures.
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We thought that Nokia Lumia 920 was the best phone to record in the night, or Nokia told us that it was that. But they haven't done the best work they could. Their flagship, Nokia 808 Pureview, is recording better during the night. It's a pitty that Nokia starts to cheat since the very first Nokia 920 video. The super reflex camera to capture the supose Lumia 920 videos + this is amazing. Although is the best WP8 to buy, if you think it as a camera phone is better the iPhone 5 in daylight, equal in afternoon and inside and slightly better during the night.
Some videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cPm20esQYc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4CeHt04xQ
The Nokia video you are talking about was misunderstood and the blown out of proportion. The goal of the video was to demonstrate the benefit of the Optical Image Stabilization (OIS) technology, not the phone itself. If anything, Nokia can be chastised for not putting a disclaimer making that unambiguous.
It is indeed tricky to compare the 920 with the 808 esp since they are both called "Pureview". But, the key difference between the two is that the 920 has OIS (which the 808 doesn't) and the 808 have a much higher MP.
I dont think anyone ever claimed that the 920 was a better camera than the 808... you'd have to be crazy to think so
it does take low light pics easier than the 808 but if you had rock solid steady hands or a mini tripod you could mitigate the advantage
as for the "fiasco" i agree i was a bit appalled that nokia stooped to competitor strategies but they did come out with actual footage from the 920 which showcased the OIS just as well and so have users (check out some nokia blogs)
stylinred said:
I dont think anyone ever claimed that the 920 was a better camera than the 808... you'd have to be crazy to think so
it does take low light pics easier than the 808 but if you had rock solid steady hands or a mini tripod you could mitigate the advantage
as for the "fiasco" i agree i was a bit appalled that nokia stooped to competitor strategies but they did come out with actual footage from the 920 which showcased the OIS just as well and so have users (check out some nokia blogs)
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I think you are mistaken. Nokia did show us the Lumia 920 as the best camera in low light conditions on a phone. That is not true and I think this reviews are good because maybe you know 808 is better camera in all ways, but some people are interested and doesn't know it.
I've read a good news from here : http://360dmobile.com/184/. It said that lumia 920 camera issue was fixed. It's such a great news, is there any lumia 920 users can confirm this fix
mrpinochio said:
I've read a good news from here : http://360dmobile.com/184/. It said that lumia 920 camera issue was fixed. It's such a great news, is there any lumia 920 users can confirm this fix
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Engaget posted a crapload of example photos
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/17/lumia-920-camera-fix/
Until any of us lowly users gets the update that's all the conformation we get.
I am glad there is a thread about this!!!
For all the hype behind that nokia camera!! i found it was TERRIBLE!!! my gf's HTC One X takes amazing pics compared to this Nokia 920!
The One X is featured in this test and doesn't fare as well as the 920 does.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16087_PureView_shootout_Nokia_808_vs.php
Don't blame your camera for poor results, a camera is only as good as the person using it. If a good camera could create brilliant photographs in the hands of anyone then photographers wouldn't be in a job. Good light, subject matter, thoughts on framing and angles make good pictures, the camera is just there to record the result.
gilesjuk said:
The One X is featured in this test and doesn't fare as well as the 920 does.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16087_PureView_shootout_Nokia_808_vs.php
Don't blame your camera for poor results, a camera is only as good as the person using it. If a good camera could create brilliant photographs in the hands of anyone then photographers wouldn't be in a job. Good light, subject matter, thoughts on framing and angles make good pictures, the camera is just there to record the result.
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lol this entire thread is based on the 920 camera being balls
that said.. 920 point and click.. One X point and click.. One X wins..
I can say with surety that after the update the camera is MUCH better.
dc/dc said:
I can say with surety that after the update the camera is MUCH better.
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thanks! makes me feel a lot better knowing that there is hope!
Puff1911 said:
lol this entire thread is based on the 920 camera being balls
that said.. 920 point and click.. One X point and click.. One X wins..
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I realise that. But photography is my hobby and if the 920 is guilty of anything it is having output that isn't extensively post processed. If you look at what the iPhone outputs it is photos that are sharpened and have increased contrast. If it saved what was captured at the sensor it would be very dull.
So with the 920 fix they've either reduced noise reduction which shouldn't have been applied in daylight or applied more post processing.
One X can't beat the 920 at video, especially concert footage, the sound of the 920 is much better, no distortion.
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I realise that. But photography is my hobby and if the 920 is guilty of anything it is having output that isn't extensively post processed. If you look at what the iPhone outputs it is photos that are sharpened and have increased contrast. If it saved what was captured at the sensor it would be very dull.
So with the 920 fix they've either reduced noise reduction which shouldn't have been applied in daylight or applied more post processing.
One X can't beat the 920 at video, especially concert footage, the sound of the 920 is much better, no distortion.
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Fair enough.. I haven't done any video with the 920.. so I have no comments on that.
I too can confirm improvements on the camera. I just did night photos with night mode on and off. Literally, the difference is night and day. LOL
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jeromel said:
I too can confirm improvements on the camera. I just did night photos with night mode on and off. Literally, the difference is night and day. LOL
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Complaints have never been about night photos, but about "soft" daytime photos.
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I've noticed some slight improvement in the sharpness of the photos, but it's still nowhere as sharp as the photos taken with my Samsung Infuse, which is a horrible let-down.
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It's been suggested that maybe only the AT&T firmware carries the camera fix. That would explain why some folks swear their camera is fixed and others don't see the difference. I have a Rogers Lumia 920 and the camera is as awful as it was the first day I got it. The new firmware did nothing.
So for those who did see an improvement, can you confirm what model of Lumia 920 you have? Firmware number, revision number, batch number and all that so we can confirm apples to apples.
Thanks!
I have the AT&T version.. and I haven't been impressed by the camera. Even after the update.. I can see a minor difference.. but I still can't say it's all that great.
IMHO the One X+ is still beating my Nokia L920
Daytime is fine when the objects are near. But landscapes are where it sucks, but it seems to be focus related.
I've got my Lumia 920 a few days ago and after bragging about how awesome the Pureview camera is to one of my iFriends he totally smoked me with his iPhone 5. In low light he got shots as good as my Nokia did, and in situations when the light was coming from the windows he wiped the floor with me because he could choose where to focus the image thus making an object on the wall more clear while reducing the light from the window. I can't do this with the 920. If there is a window with light coming from it, the entire wall is almost black. I have also noticed that photos taken with the 920 have a 3552x2000 resolution, while photos taken with my old Lumia 800 have a resolution of 3624x2448. Why so?
My questions are:
Why is the resolution lower than the Lumia 800?
Why are there fewer options in the camera setting than on WP 7.5/7.8?
Why isn't the Pureview smoking the iPhone? They don't even try to advertise this kind of things and still...
Why are photos soft?? Even after the update, photos are still coming out softer than how they look on the screen between focus and shoot.
When I got the 920 I really wished that this Pureview brand they are selling is something groundbreaking, but why in the world does the iPhone 5 take same or even better photos?
Tomorrow I'm returning the device to get a new one because of a problem with the floating lens:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065019
I hope that the new phone they will give me will be better...
Hi,
Just wondering what is the best setting on the stock lumia 920 camera for indoor bar scene or clubbing scene? Since there will be a lot of people moving around and I want to decrease any blurs, I was thinking of decreasing the exposure to the minimalist setting and increasing the ISO to 800 with flash on.
Questioned Camera Capabilities... But...
to be honest, don't expect alot from the Carl Zeiss Camera lens to perform as good as a Sony Handy-cam for video shooting or a DSLR for still images.
I'm a photographer and I've put the Lumia 920 camera on exhaustive tests. the performance of the f/2.0 lens ratio to the size of the Camera Sensor (1/3.2") really surprised me. I know that comparing a cell phone camera to a DSLR is like comparing a kite to a space ship! but it's really usable and better than carrying a chunky DSLR camera.
the bottom line is, you might get some acceptable results ONLY with still images and NOT video shots. just crank up the ISO to 800, also crank up the Exposure to 2.. and try to capture STEADY people and objects. NOT moving people because you'd get shaky blurry images.
I had the HTC 8X before it got it exchanged with the Lumia 920. the HTC 8x camera provides more camera custom options that our Nokia.
As the title indicates the 920 is amazing in low light and almost no light. I am curious why the more recent handsets like 1520, 930 and 830 still can't beat the low light photos of the 920. Even the 1020 is sometimes worst in low light.
I am currently using a z2 but managed to pick up a 920 for £50 just so I can use the camera as was disappointed with the 930 camera.
Any thoughts on why it's so good please reply especially if anyone knows what the software is doing.
ipmanwck said:
As the title indicates the 920 is amazing in low light and almost no light. I am curious why the more recent handsets like 1520, 930 and 830 still can't beat the low light photos of the 920. Even the 1020 is sometimes worst in low light.
I am currently using a z2 but managed to pick up a 920 for £50 just so I can use the camera as was disappointed with the 930 camera.
Any thoughts on why it's so good please reply especially if anyone knows what the software is doing.
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Even my 15 yo pc webcam can do better low light than lumia 920. At lower resolution and quality obviosly. For better low light its simple as tweak the cam app to autoregulate the capture brighter. Don't know why that was so easy 15 years ago, and now that seems impossible.
ipmanwck said:
As the title indicates the 920 is amazing in low light and almost no light. I am curious why the more recent handsets like 1520, 930 and 830 still can't beat the low light photos of the 920. Even the 1020 is sometimes worst in low light.
I am currently using a z2 but managed to pick up a 920 for £50 just so I can use the camera as was disappointed with the 930 camera.
Any thoughts on why it's so good please reply especially if anyone knows what the software is doing.
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The answer lies in sensor size. The lumia 920 has a 1/3.2" sensor while the 930 has a smaller 1/2.51" sensor.
A bigger sensor means more light can enter but can also mean that shots will be overexposed (too bright) at some point.
The 930 on the other hand probably does better in terms of daylight shots and speed with Rich Capture being another plus point.
but, the math says that 1/2.51" is obviously greater than 1/3.2"
The 930's camera has been pretty poor since WM10. It was great in well lit shots with denim though.
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Vsmh said:
The answer lies in sensor size. The lumia 920 has a 1/3.2" sensor while the 930 has a smaller 1/2.51" sensor.
A bigger sensor means more light can enter but can also mean that shots will be overexposed (too bright) at some point.
The 930 on the other hand probably does better in terms of daylight shots and speed with Rich Capture being another plus point.
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The sensor of the Lumia 930 (and 929=Icon and 1520) is not only much bigger, but has more pixels.
It takes better pictures in every situation. The sensor is also more modern.
These Lumia phones have an Optical Image recognition System (OIS):
920,925,928, 1020, 830,929,930,1520, 950,950 XL (and the upcoming [in 2017] "Surface Phone") & (the old prototype "McLaren")
so that they remove the small vibrations of your hand(s) allowing a longer exposure time =>
better pictures - especially at low light situations