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Hey everyone, I'm currently in the Air Force and I'm getting stationed in Germany. And due to that I'm going to be freezing my Verizon account till I get back.
Now I really love this phone, and I'd like to keep using it; however, will I be out of luck without an actual service plan? I'm not talking about running it without a data plan. I mean actually no service whatsoever other than the Wifi.
Can it be done?
Can I has Wifi smartphone in Germany?
Thanks much beforehand for any help!
FLACattack said:
Hey everyone, I'm currently in the Air Force and I'm getting stationed in Germany. And due to that I'm going to be freezing my Verizon account till I get back.
Now I really love this phone, and I'd like to keep using it; however, will I be out of luck without an actual service plan? I'm not talking about running it without a data plan. I mean actually no service whatsoever other than the Wifi.
Can it be done?
Can I has Wifi smartphone in Germany?
Thanks much beforehand for any help!
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Umm, why couldn't you? Put the phone in airplane mode, turn wifi on/off as you please. Last I checked, the didn't ban Wifi in Europe or Germany (yet, the EU does stupid stuff sometimes)
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Umm, why couldn't you? Put the phone in airplane mode, turn wifi on/off as you please. Last I checked, the didn't ban Wifi in Europe or Germany (yet, the EU does stupid stuff sometimes)
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Is it really that easy? Also, what might that limit as far as functionality of the phone other than just calls and texts?
Also, would I need to worry about accidentally turning off the Airplane mode and getting charged again, or does the phone just stop receiving service period?
Thanks much for the help and I'll feel kinds silly if it really was this easy ha.
If you froze your VZW account, you should stop receiving service entirely, and not have to worry about getting calls, 3G, etc. But I could be wrong about that, so if someone could confirm...
Also, does Germany even have CDMA towers? I thought the rest of the world was on GSM.
beenz said:
If you froze your VZW account, you should stop receiving service entirely, and not have to worry about getting calls, 3G, etc. But I could be wrong about that, so if someone could confirm...
Also, does Germany even have CDMA towers? I thought the rest of the world was on GSM.
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other countries use cdma (china and india have major carriers that do) and several others as well (peru, etc) if you go to verizon's international travel coverage you can actually see (or used to anyway) what country had what type of coverage and where on a map
however gsm is the major technology used worldwide...i dont have figures handy, but id guess its like 85/15 or something split wise
with emerging lte adoption though at some point in the future id imagine things becoming more unified...or even further split as many carriers may stick with hdspa+ rather than spend the money on lte infrastructure...who knows
i have an epic 4g that has no sevice at all and my kids use it as an ipod with
wifi work great text also as long as u have wifi.
ps i got the phone from a buddy that could not pay a bill for two phone so he suspended the line.
If you deactivate your service, the phone will attempt to connect, but won't be able to. I doubt many overseas carriers would allow data usage for roaming anyway even if airplane mode did get turned off, I'd think they probably only allow calls/texts.
Airplane mode (to save battery from frivolous radio connection attempts) + wifi. You're good.
No cdma in Germany, so no network to connect to to begin with. Verizon wont even let you use a phone in Europe without a special international roaming thing on your account anyways, so they certainly wont allow it to connect if you're suspended
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I was in Germany about 3 weeks ago and I kept my phone in airplane mode and turned WIFI on and off when I wanted internet access. The problem was that I was not able to find any free WIFI - hotel, Starbuck's, etc. all charged a fee. Getting on the internet was not worth the going rate of 5 euros an hour. Your experience may be different; however, except in housing it's unlikely that you will find WIFI on base.
In the past I used an old droid as a portable device around the house. I never enabled airplane mode. I even took it on a trip with me for a media device. I got stranded in TX via buddy pass. I had to take a 27 hour bus trip home. My regular phone died. I couldn't charge the battery on the bus. So I used the droid to call Verizon to turn it on. And then turned it back off when I got home. I never had any issues with getting a data charge on my plan when I was using it as a portable. If it's deactivated in their computers I don't see how it would connect to a phone service.
I assume() that this would be the same with the Fascinate. The Fascinate is nothing more than a small handheld computer that make phone calls. Turn off the phone service and it should continue to do everything else as normal.
I would look into getting a skype account. It may even have some type of free package. You could try to make wifi calls in a pinch. I have no experience with that, but it seems like it would work. I don't know how much it would cost.
If you chose other reason, please let us know why
Product page: http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/it-mobile/mp3-player/smartplayer/YP-GP1EW
Guys, let me tell you this: Samsung announced the devices that are gonna be on JB and they dont gonna update this neither. They did this with our players and they are gonna do it again with this. Buy something else. A galaxy nexus Or a nexus 7 are betters options
If you dont believe me read this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...more-devices-soon-including-the-galaxy-music/
The galaxy music is a cellphone not this device
If the price is right, i will get it, but i doubt Samsung will release it for International market.
I'm waiting to see what they finally release. I've been thinking about getting a Galaxy Nexus and just using that.
tbh, I was gonna wait to purchase it instead of my 4.0, but I thought about the price + the chance it probably wouldn't fit in my pocket.
It's probably gonna be around $300 on launch (although I'm not sure) and I only had $200 at the time of purchasing my 4.0.
There was a company called Yepp in Korea and it's Samsung's.
It's a MP3P company and that's why our devices are like "YP"-G70 or else.
And Yepp company takes care of our device and firmware kind of stuff.
This means that Samsung is not really fond of MP3P as they are toward its phone, Galaxy S series.
I wouldn't recommend people to buy MP3P from Samsung. Cellphones I will recommend, but...... MP3P?
I'll have to ponder about it.
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There was a company called Yepp in Korea and it's Samsung's.
It's a MP3P company and that's why our devices are like "YP"-G70 or else.
And Yepp company takes care of our device and firmware kind of stuff.
This means that Samsung is not really fond of MP3P as they are toward its phone, Galaxy S series.
I wouldn't recommend people to buy MP3P from Samsung. Cellphones I will recommend, but...... MP3P?
I'll have to ponder about it.
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Actually, YEPP is not a separate company. That's the name they've given to their PMP (Portable Media Player) line. YEPP is an acronym for something, but I forget what it means.
As for the Player 5.8, I speculate that it will be at least six months for it to release in international markets, because that's how long it took between the release of the original Galaxy Player in Korea and the West.
I am definitely going for the Galaxy Note 2. I am very reluctant to buy another Galaxy Player from Samsung again, as they charge full price for obsolete hardware and leave their customers in the dark with upgrades
I'm probably getting an ipod touch then, even though I don't really like is and the small screen.
The thing is it's too expensive, I would've bought the $200 16 gb if Apple released it.
Still waiting to see how are they gonna price the ipad mini lol
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I would have gotten an ipod touch this go around but they keep on neglecting GPS. Which is the one thing that would make me switch. Maybe next time apple.
mxjcmxjc said:
I would have gotten an ipod touch this go around but they keep on neglecting GPS. Which is the one thing that would make me switch. Maybe next time apple.
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Lol I don't even know what gps is.
What is it? How is it different from location service? How is it useful?
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nooktablet said:
Lol I don't even know what gps is.
What is it? How is it different from location service? How is it useful?
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GPS stands for "Global Positioning Satellites" and these satellites are the key to identifying your location on the earth. Devices with GPS have an additional part within them that allows your device to communicate with the satellites, and as a result the GPS satellites are able to pinpoint your coordinates on earth. Without a GPS receiver your device cannot communicate with said satellites, so no GPS positioning is possible outside any facilities. And, I say that because without a GPS receiver, the only other way to track your location is via your Wi-Fi connection. So, the location services you mentioned…I just explained them for you.
P.S. - Most technologies that exist as commodities now were first invented by the U.S. military. GPS is one of those technologies, as well as the Internet.
Higgs_Boson said:
GPS stands for "Global Positioning Satellites" and these satellites are the key to identifying your location on the earth. Devices with GPS have an additional part within them that allows your device to communicate with the satellites, and as a result the GPS satellites are able to pinpoint your coordinates on earth. Without a GPS receiver your device cannot communicate with said satellites, so no GPS positioning is possible outside any facilities. And, I say that because without a GPS receiver, the only other way to track your location is via your Wi-Fi connection. So, the location services you mentioned…I just explained them for you.
P.S. - Most technologies that exist as commodities now were first invented by the U.S. military. GPS is one of those technologies, as well as the Internet.
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So with gps you can use mapping/location app offline (no Internet access needed)? That would be great for turn by turn direction
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nooktablet said:
So with gps you can use mapping/location app offline (no Internet access needed)? That would be great for turn by turn direction
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Yes. I remember back in the day, when I still had my HP iPAQ, I was using TOMTOM maps for navigation. At that time, no handheld devices came equipped with internal GPS receivers, so I had to buy a Bluetooth GPS receiver to use with TOMTOM.
Nowadays, most devices (but, I guess not iPod Touches) come with internal GPS receivers, allowing for offline navigation if you have the available maps cached on your device.
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So with gps you can use mapping/location app offline (no Internet access needed)? That would be great for turn by turn direction
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There are basically three ways to identify you location on the face of the planet - when you are connected to a wi-fi hot spot, its position can be identified (not yours, so it's appriximate), if your device has a gsm radio, so it can connect to a cellular network, then it can identify your location by your proximity to the nearest towers on this network, it's called agps and many devices nowadays use this to identify your approximate position on the globe, because it's quick, and once they know your approximate position, they use gps to get your precise location. Well, and the last one is gps, which was already explained, a gps chip inside your device talks to satellites in the space to calculate precisely where you are. The advantages of this method is that you don't need to be connected to the internet via wi-fi or 3g, it uses less energy, so lasts longer and gives you more freedom. You need to have some kind of mapping software to be installed on your device for this method to work (like abovementioned excellent TomTom or Garmin or iGo, there's a whole bunch of them), but once you have one of these, you have a full featured car/personal navigation kit, with voice guided turn by turn navigation anywhere in the world where you have map coverage.
BTW, SGP 5.0 makes and excellent gps!
baladev said:
There are basically three ways to identify you location on the face of the planet - when you are connected to a wi-fi hot spot, its position can be identified (not yours, so it's appriximate), if your device has a gsm radio, so it can connect to a cellular network, then it can identify your location by your proximity to the nearest towers on this network, it's called agps and many devices nowadays use this to identify your approximate position on the globe, because it's quick, and once they know your approximate position, they use gps to get your precise location. Well, and the last one is gps, which was already explained, a gps chip inside your device talks to satellites in the space to calculate precisely where you are. The advantages of this method is that you don't need to be connected to the internet via wi-fi or 3g, it uses less energy, so lasts longer and gives you more freedom. You need to have some kind of mapping software to be installed on your device for this method to work (like abovementioned excellent TomTom or Garmin or iGo, there's a whole bunch of them), but once you have one of these, you have a full featured car/personal navigation kit, with voice guided turn by turn navigation anywhere in the world where you have map coverage.
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You are correct, in a sense, to say that there are three methods of location detection. However, I respectfully disagree that location via tower belongs in the same boat as GPS and Wi-Fi detection.
Location detection via wifi is exact down to a few feet, which is based on an IP address. GPS tends to be very accurate, and depending on certain variables can be off by a few hundred feet.
Towers, as you mentioned, are more or less a means to an end. It offers a very, very general idea of location, but can off by up to miles. Again, as you mentioned this rough idea of your location is then more precisely pinpointed by GPS satellites.
Lol there is somebody who does not what is gps..i use GPS in my player 5.0 a lot with "my track" application ..and off course you can install some offline navigation for car ..i use IGo because it has best maps for my country ..(in apple maps in my country my town of 200 000 people does not even exist ..there is no on the map ) but for car i use tablet for navigation..bigger better hh.
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You are correct, in a sense, to say that there are three methods of location detection. However, I respectfully disagree that location via tower belongs in the same boat as GPS and Wi-Fi detection.
Location detection via wifi is exact down to a few feet, which is based on an IP address. GPS tends to be very accurate, and depending on certain variables can be off by a few hundred feet.
Towers, as you mentioned, are more or less a means to an end. It offers a very, very general idea of location, but can off by up to miles. Again, as you mentioned this rough idea of your location is then more precisely pinpointed by GPS satellites.
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Location via 3G gives me very accurate position in town to 10m but you can do any navigation
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Higgs_Boson said:
You are correct, in a sense, to say that there are three methods of location detection. However, I respectfully disagree that location via tower belongs in the same boat as GPS and Wi-Fi detection.
Location detection via wifi is exact down to a few feet, which is based on an IP address. GPS tends to be very accurate, and depending on certain variables can be off by a few hundred feet.
Towers, as you mentioned, are more or less a means to an end. It offers a very, very general idea of location, but can off by up to miles. Again, as you mentioned this rough idea of your location is then more precisely pinpointed by GPS satellites.
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Well, i wasn't categorising different ways of identifying your position, so you really have nothing to respectuffy disagree with. I just explained them all.
Location detection via wi-fi gives you the position of the wi-fi hot spot, so if you are close to it, your position is precise, if you are 100m away from it, your position will be 100m off. It is also stationary, it doesn't move with you, so it's useless for turn by turn navigation.
Location detection via towers can be quite precise (comparable to precision of gps location detection), depending on where you are. If you are in a densely populated area, like a city (with many towers around you), your location will be very/quite accurate, on the other hand if you are in a rural area, with weak signal you may not even get a fix.
My preferable way of location detection is through a gps chip in my device. This way i'm not dependant on any external factors (apart from satellites in the space and the charge of my device) and free to go wherever i want.
nooktablet said:
Lol I don't even know what gps is.
What is it? How is it different from location service? How is it useful?
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"The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based satellite navigation system that provides location and time information in all weather, anywhere on or near the Earth, where there is an unobstructed line of sight to four or more GPS satellites. It is maintained by the United States government and is freely accessible to anyone with a GPS receiver." Taken from Wikipedia.
It's used mainly for Turn by Turn direction and can be used to track travel distance. For instance I use the GPS with Runkeeper to track my runs/walks/jogs.
Location Service on the iPod uses Wifi Networks to triangulate your position. Which is good if your in a city with a lot of wifi access however if your not your boned.
I think the old Galaxy Players (4 and 5 inch) were made with spare parts from the entire Galaxy S (Vibrant,Captivate, etc) and Nexus S series which was quickly going obsolete. I seriously think that Samsung would support the new Galaxy Player series with legitimate updates. There's a pretty big gap in performance specs between devices that came out with Gingerbread and ICS and with the old Galaxy music player series coming out with Gingerbread, the performance before the ICS "spec bump."
I'm probably gonna pick up a 5.8 and develop ROMs for it if anybody was wondering. The specs should be enough for a few more years or Android releases
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If it is under $300 dollars maybe... $200 yes.
Hi friends Flyer users,
i am planing to go on Hollidays to Florida - Miami and ofc taking mine Flyer with me lol.
Question is will GPS work (i live in Europe)? I seen some diferent files to be flashed depending on where u live for GPS lock. Cant find the post atm thow.
Also for posible recomendation - any good pre paid sim cards (dont need data plan just talks for me and mine wife so we can easy talk to each other when we are there)
Many thx!
Maybe try the app faster fix. With regards to sim I cant help I am in New York.
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jprednik said:
Question is will GPS work (i live in Europe)? I seen some diferent files to be flashed depending on where u live for GPS lock. Cant find the post atm thow.
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GPS files just allow for faster initial lock. It should work fine without. It might take a minute or 2 to get an initial lock once you first get here (not unusual when you make a big locational change while the GPS is off).
Keep in mind that GPS only supplies latitude, longitude and (approximate) elevation data. Maps, directions, etc. come from a mapping or navigation software (but people sometimes use the term "GPS" interchangeably with map/navigation software, which is confusing). For instance, with Google Maps you will either need to cache the map sections you will be using, or need to have an active data connection to stream the map data. Of course, if you have purchased 3rd party navigation software where the maps are stored on the SD card, then that is not an issue.
Have never used a pre-paid SIM in the states. So my experience is limited to my knowledge of the post-paid accounts (contract) in the US. AT&T and T-Mobile are the major GSM carriers in the US, with a variety of smaller "regional" carriers that typically just purchase bandwidth from AT&T or T-Mobile. I believe AT&T blocks the use tablets as voice call devices (on the cell network, internet call solutions such as Skype work fine), so T-Mobile (or a regional carrier that uses T-Mob's network) may be your best bet. I think T-Mobile supports voice on tablets, but I'm not sure of that.
Of course, your tablet will need to be SIM-unlocked.
jprednik said:
Hi friends Flyer users,
i am planing to go on Hollidays to Florida - Miami and ofc taking mine Flyer with me lol.
Question is will GPS work (i live in Europe)? I seen some diferent files to be flashed depending on where u live for GPS lock. Cant find the post atm thow.
Also for posible recomendation - any good pre paid sim cards (dont need data plan just talks for me and mine wife so we can easy talk to each other when we are there)
Many thx!
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Hi jprednik,
What you're going to want to do is modify your GPS.conf (this can be done with a market app). This file essentially tells the device what GPS maps server to use for faster locks. There are several servers for north america. I would download an app that allows you to switch those servers, or if you're brave enough (it's really not difficult, it's a text file) you can edit the server list yourself. You may want to verify that there are no GPS configuration settings in your build.prop too. You can pull the GPS server settings straight from the US Galaxy nexus system dumps if you want. That will give you the proper address google uses for GPS servers. Hope you enjoy Florida, from a Virginian.
Oh and as for prepaid...I think, don't quote me on this, you'll have good luck with StraightTalk wireless. They use AT&T bands, the largest GSM network in the US. Hope this helps!
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Oh and as for prepaid...I think, don't quote me on this, you'll have good luck with StraightTalk wireless. They use AT&T bands, the largest GSM network in the US. Hope this helps!
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As far as I know, AT&T does not allow voice calls on tablets. You might be able to get it to work by modifying build.prop or some other mod. But out of the box, I don't think it will.
Straight Talk gives you the option of picking either the AT&T SIM or a T-Mobile SIM. So Straight Talk may still be a good option. Lots of folks here seem to like the service, with reasonable prices, and widely available at Walmart stores (which are quite common in many places in the US).
Thx for the info.
To sum it up: if i leave mine flyer as it is, ill be able to get GPS lock in States. I ofc have igo app and maps instaled for states. It will onlly take a bit longer to aquire the satelites. I can modify Flyer in order to get faster lock.
Secondly; there are pre paid sim card posibilities (i got some info there r non).
Thats great news, tyvm.
jprednik said:
To sum it up: if i leave mine flyer as it is, ill be able to get GPS lock in States. I ofc have igo app and maps instaled for states. It will onlly take a bit longer to aquire the satelites. I can modify Flyer in order to get faster lock.
Secondly; there are pre paid sim card posibilities (i got some info there r non).
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I'd say that's a pretty good summary. I've taken my Flyer and also my HTC phone (One X) to various locations in Europe and Middle East, and never had any issue with GPS getting a lock, and never flashed any extra files.
Initial GPS lock may take a couple minutes when you first arrive in the US, as I mentioned. Its just the GPS system having trouble resolving what part of the world you are in, if it has changed drastically while the GPS is off. Ensure you have a clear view of a majority of the sky, and just let the GPS do its thing for a few minutes, and you should be fine. Then every time you use the GPS after that, the lock should happen much faster (10-20 sec). Being connected to a WiFi network may also help get that initial lock much faster (not sure if igo can read you location from WiFi networks, but Google Maps will).
Prepaid SIMs are certainly available. But just not as convenient or widespread as other parts of the world. And may also be a bit more expensive than you are used to. Its just the way the telcom industry works in the US. I've been to lots of places in Europe and Asia, where you can just walk up to a telcom vendor in the airport once you arrive. Its not like that in the US. You will have to go to a T-Mobile, or similar cell phone retail location. Or go to a Walmart store, and go to the cell phone department and ask about Straight Talk. Either way is pretty common, just not as widespread as getting a prepaid SIM in some other parts of the world.
Also keep in mind that 2 of the major cell carriers in the US (Sprint and Verizon, as well as a number of smaller "regional" carrier) don't even operate on GSM (they use CDMA), so cell phone stores (and networks) will be useless to you.
jprednik said:
Thx for the info.
To sum it up: if i leave mine flyer as it is, ill be able to get GPS lock in States. I ofc have igo app and maps instaled for states. It will onlly take a bit longer to aquire the satelites. I can modify Flyer in order to get faster lock.
Secondly; there are pre paid sim card posibilities (i got some info there r non).
Thats great news, tyvm.
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T-Mobile doesn't care what device you're using on a pre-paid SIM. You'll even get HSPA speeds depending on the coverage. I have a 3g Flyer on a T-Mobile prepaid SIM and I've not run into anything I cant do that works properly on a regular SIM-based phone. I'm running LeeDroid GB ROM, by the by.
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T-Mobile doesn't care what device you're using on a pre-paid SIM. You'll even get HSPA speeds depending on the coverage. I have a 3g Flyer on a T-Mobile prepaid SIM and I've not run into anything I cant do that works properly on a regular SIM-based phone.
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Good info. One thing to note, however: HSPA speeds will only be obtained if the device is compatible with the AWS 3G band; or on the 1900 Mhz band in select markets (since those are the bands that the T-Mobile HSPA network functions on). Otherwise, the OP will only have EDGE speed. But it sounds like he just wants to use it for GSM voice calls, anyway.
Many thx to all. Yes realy voice calls will be priority i am sure ill be able to find some opened wifis in Miami for conection to the data world. And yea gps comes in hqndy when u try to find things.
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My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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Yes , u can get internet service with non-LTE. You will be gettin Wifi-Connection when you connect to Wife's Hotspot. Data Transfer would be faster cause as you said your Wife has LTE.
Truck505766 said:
My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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C6833 - LTE for T-Mobile
C6806 - LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 - 3G for all networks
So even thought you have the single band LTE device, you will still get 3G coverage and data/ downloads. You will also be able to connect to your wife's hotspot and get LTE that way. But wont be as fast as LTE through a provider as its piggybacking.
I would suggest getting a T-Mobile account. (if they have coverage for where you will be)
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C6833 - LTE for T-Mobile
C6806 - LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 - 3G for all networks
So even thought you have the single band LTE device, you will still get 3G coverage and data/ downloads. You will also be able to connect to your wife's hotspot and get LTE that way. But wont be as fast as LTE through a provider as its piggybacking.
I would suggest getting a T-Mobile account. (if they have coverage for where you will be)
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The problem with the "where you are" plan is we drive 1000+ miles per day. We have no idea where that would be. So as long as I can make the call part work and there is a work around for the interest, I'm happy. The super big screen when viewing load details will far out weigh some of the small draw backs like no LTE or having to connect to a hotspot. We drive for me hours in some states where we don't even have basic phone service.
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The problem with the "where you are" plan is we drive 1000+ miles per day. We have no idea where that would be. So as long as I can make the call part work and there is a work around for the interest, I'm happy. The super big screen when viewing load details will far out weigh some of the small draw backs like no LTE or having to connect to a hotspot. We drive for me hours in some states where we don't even have basic phone service.
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yeah I know what you mean. I travel a lot of part of my job, and often I have zero reception too. You'll be happy with your version of the Ultra. wifi hotspots will be the best choice and other than that 3G will suffice.. :good: or nothing...
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yeah I know what you mean. I travel a lot of part of my job, and often I have zero reception too. You'll be happy with your version of the Ultra. wifi hotspots will be the best choice and other than that 3G will suffice.. :good: or nothing...
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While I'm not a cheap SOB, okay I am, if it gets to bad I'll pay up for an account at T-Mobile, but why if I don't really have to?
Thanks everyone. While I can find info down to the glue it's stuck together with I couldn't find the basics of can I call home on it. I'll bet I can find somewhere if ET can phone home with it.
hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
Not related to the post (getting T-Mobile service) on any of the Asian firmwares at the moment.
I flashed the Euro, US firmwares and no signal at all. The radio power in hidden menu shows as off.
Does anyone know if crossflashing with this model also flashes the radio modem?
Seems to have worked naturally for Xperia 1 II and Xperia 1 III.
Not sure why this doesn't work now aside from intentionally restricting the phone to the intended region model.
Mine is XQ-CT72 global version on US T-Mobil.
I'm getting 800+, but US version should be better because of better band selection.
Mine goes that fast only certain places.
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hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
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I own the USA variant of the phone and I have absolutely no issues with 5G data nor wi-fi. The only issues I am experiencing is the fact that voice over Wi-Fi has not been provisioned. Coincidentally my phone also tells me within engineering mode that video over Wi-Fi is also not implemented. Sony wants to point the finger at T-Mobile and T-Mobile wants to point the finger at Sony.
Other than that I love this phone.
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You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Rats. I've been looking to upgrade from my Note 10+ on T-Mobile, and the Xperia 1 IV looked promising, but VoWiFi being nerfed is a non-starter for my needs. Curse the manufacturers for moving away from expandable storage!
T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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It is Still a good attempt from TMO to try to help, It is really not TMO fault here as nothing they can do. Sony is at fault blocking TMO network code in their VoWiFi software.
Sony has decided to block this service from the second largest US carrier, wondering why Sony sales not picking up in the US
seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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Since WCDMA and GSM are sunset, if you want to call someone or receive calls with your phone, you need VoLTE or VoNR. TG and Whatsapp are not that popular in the US, and imagine someone wanting to use their phone as a phone....
well, I get that. We still have 3G and GSM. And every time I work on new rollout things are more and more complicated because of all generations are still in use. Connecting to a unknown wifi every time seems very not practical and if it is not opened public network (which again is not great) how does that work then? I get it if you are at home/family/friends but my question is more like, no cell signal, jut some random wifi. To me it looks more like a patch then an actual service/solution for the lack of cell signal. Or is that something that you really can rely on?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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The issue is when I'm in my local public supermarket there is no T-Mobile coverage in the building. There is Wi-Fi and I do use Google meet and other apps over Wi-Fi but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
Someone would have to actually know that I'm in a no coverage area and utilize one of those other apps to reach me. If not businesses, job offers, local businesses that don't know me personally, someone new that I've met etc etc would never get through to me and I would eventually receive some type of voicemail message indication. That is unacceptable when you have children and other family members and friends that need to get in contact with you immediately.
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but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
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Exactly the point, your phone number is the primary way many reach you. if your phone does not have any 3G\4G\5G coverage, then WiFi might be your only other option that gives people the ability to call you directly with your phone.
OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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There are many places that I have frequented where cellular data and cellular calling will not go through. In those places Wi-Fi is available. While you can use WhatsApp and other individual applications to make video calls and even voice calls you will not be able to receive native incoming calls when someone calls your regular phone number nor will you be able to use your native dialer to make a regular phone call if Wi-Fi calling is not provisioned on your phone. Unfortunately our phones do not get provisioned for T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling apparently due to some issue between the Sony and T-Mobile. So by switching to another carrier or mvno, Wi-Fi calling will be enabled reportedly.
UPDATE: Switched to Google Fi.... Problem solved. Wi-Fi calling now enabled.
That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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It can work on any Wi-Fi network that has adequate bandwidth. I can go to my local Publix supermarket....no cellular signal in there: I turn my WiFi on, I can make/receive calls with the native phone dialer. No cellular tower needed.
Even tested this at home.... I turned Airplane mode on, then afterwards I ONLY turn wi-fi on.... Calls can be made/received.