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when you are viewing a contact in People app and you switch away, if you go back to People it will loose context and show you the main list again. this is definitely an intended behavior and one of the worst usability flaws of the Android OS. is there a way to disable this horribly ****ty behavior? maybe replacing the People icon with a shortcut to a special activity? do i need to patch the source for this? thank you!
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when you are viewing a contact in People app and you switch away, if you go back to People it will loose context and show you the main list again. this is definitely an intended behavior and one of the worst usability flaws of the Android OS. is there a way to disable this horribly ****ty behavior? maybe replacing the People icon with a shortcut to a special activity? do i need to patch the source for this? thank you!
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Hmm. Sounds frustrating.I dunno about it being a default behavior. It doesn't happen on my phone, so can not recreate issue to see what's up. Are you going back to it after awhile, or like you just pop in another app and right back and it's back to the top of the list? I'm thinking maybe the system is being aggressive on the RAM front and shutting the app down if you are out of it for too long. If that is the case, then rooting and adjustin the memory management might be necessary. What phone and update are you on?
A quick, potential work around, is using another dialer / contact app other than the built in one. Go Dialer, ExDialer, and PixelPhone all come to mind.
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Hmm. Sounds frustrating.I dunno about it being a default behavior. It doesn't happen on my phone, so can not recreate issue to see what's up. Are you going back to it after awhile, or like you just pop in another app and right back and it's back to the top of the list? I'm thinking maybe the system is being aggressive on the RAM front and shutting the app down if you are out of it for too long. If that is the case, then rooting and adjustin the memory management might be necessary. What phone and update are you on?
A quick, potential work around, is using another dialer / contact app other than the built in one. Go Dialer, ExDialer, and PixelPhone all come to mind.
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thanks but not interested in a quick workaround involving other apps, especially closed source. i build my own system so i can patch it if it there is no other solution.
not a RAM issue, my 2GB device has plenty of it free.
yes, go out, right back in, and u land in the contact list again.
but... maybe i wasnt clear enough. if i switch back using the recent apps mechanism, it does return to the opened contact. the problem is when i switch back clicking the icon in the home screen or the app in the app drawer. the default behavior of android apps when u "open" them is to continue where you left off. this is both baked in the framework and also recommended by google. but as it happens with the People app which returns to the contact list, much of android and google apps break the recommended practices, probably in an effort to cause less confusion for android newbies or grandmas.
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this sucks! im not a grandma yet. and, i wish google got this, if google has to break the recommended practices to make android usable, then the recommended practices ARE FLAWED!
and yes they are. android sucks terribly in task switching usability. there is NO WAY to multitask as the master and owner of the device. there is no way to force on apps what you want to happen, no way to do what you want. the back key should take you to the previous activity, which may be a different app. but so many apps even coded by google take you to the main activity in the current app instead, causing that if you say open a notification, you'll have to hit back maybe many times to go back to your previous app, if you ever arrive there. btw, apps can override the back key to do anything else or even nothing which is crap.
the recent apps thingy works sometimes and other times it doesnt. since an app can launch an activity from another app in its own activity stack, you cant go back using recent apps because for android you never left the first app (although you did). and then you can only press back, except back might not take you back where you were at all!
there is no way to multitask in any predictable way. you have to learn per-app quirks and see what they let you do and what they don't. there is no way to a priori know what a tasking key will do, which is complete crap.
also under many situations android will forget what you were doing with cross app invocations (and this is PER ANDROID DESIGN) when you invoke twice activities of a single app from different apps.
the only key that works consistently is the home hey. and if from there you want to go back to an app you can't, because some apps -like People- choose to misbehave if clicked from the icon and may do what they want, like forgetting context and loosing your "work".
android's tasking system sucks horribly. i only use android because there's nothing better thats mature enough.
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Hi there good people of XDA.
Im on EMUI 3.1 B180 with TSF Launcher as home screen.
Is there a way to change look of Recent Apps tab on this configuration ?
No apps like sidebars with recent apps function shows recent apps. All of them states that there is no recent app. In my opinion somehow they can't get access to read them. Same for other apps claiming they change look of this RA tab.
Why i want to do this:
- I have changed DPI and Recent Apps tab got moved to left which looking bad and it's impractical
- It only show 4 last apps on one screen - (impractical again)
Question 2:
Any way possible to edit some files to achive more recent apps on one screen or change look of RA tab?
If there is no one who knows 100% solution then let's start discussion thread with ideas.
Thanks guys
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Hi there good people of XDA.
Im on EMUI 3.1 B180 with TSF Launcher as home screen.
Is there a way to change look of Recent Apps tab on this configuration ?
No apps like sidebars with recent apps function shows recent apps. All of them states that there is no recent app. In my opinion somehow they can't get access to read them. Same for other apps claiming they change look of this RA tab.
Why i want to do this:
- I have changed DPI and Recent Apps tab got moved to left which looking bad and it's impractical
- It only show 4 last apps on one screen - (impractical again)
Question 2:
Any way possible to edit some files to achive more recent apps on one screen or change look of RA tab?
If there is no one who knows 100% solution then let's start discussion thread with ideas.
Thanks guys
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I actually came here to find the answer to something similar. I think my issues and yours are related.
I also have the b180 firmware and have noticed that apps do not seem to be receiving app usage data despite me having given them access in "settings>security>apps with usage access".
I'm not sure if this issue is related specifically to the b180 firmware as I have only had the honor 7 (PLK-L01) for about 2 weeks and I updated it to b180 the day I got it.
The reasons why I am getting the impression that apps are not receiving app usage data are as follows:
1. I use an app called omni swipe. It has 3 tabs. One called toolbox which has access to various phone settings such as enabling/disabling wifi, one called favourites where I can pin my favourite apps for quick access and one called recent which is supposed to show my most recently used apps. The recent tab is always blank. I have confirmed that the issue is not with the app itself as the same version of the app doesn't have these issues on my old phone (samsung galaxy a3).
2. Again Omni Swipe also has a feature whereby when notifications are received it displays a little red bubble in the corner of the screen. In omni swipe's settings you can specify what apps you want the bubble to be able to appear over and which you don't. An example would be that I have specified that I don't want the bubble to appear while I am using the YouTube app. However the bubble still appears over YouTube. I believe this is because Omni Swipe is unable to determine when I am using the YouTube app due to not receiving app usage data from the phone
3. Opera Max recently received a feature whereby it can track background data usage on an app by app basis. This works fine on my old phone but on the honor 7, Opera Max is unable to distinguish whether the data is being used in the background or whether it's being used while I am using the app actively. Weirdly it does seem to be able to work out what apps I have been using at least although other apps don't.
4. CCleaner is able to determine what processes are currently running so that you can manually kill them with its task manager feature (I am aware that killing processes on Android is pointless, so I don't actually ever use this feature), however whenever I run an analysis it does not detect any running processes whatsoever.
5. Ultimate rotation control allows me to force screen rotation in any app regardless of whether the app natively supports a particular orientation. It has a per app settings section that allows me to specify the particular orientation for any app on an app by app basis. However the per app settings seem to be ignored. Again I believe that this is because Ultimate Rotation Control is unable to determine when specific apps are running due to not receiving app usage data from the phone.
These are all the specific issues I have noticed so far. All seem to be related to me. I have tested that all these issues are not present in the same versions running on my Samsung Galaxy A3.
The issues I have encountered along with the issues you have already described all seem to have the app usage data problem on common.
Does anyone know of any workarounds?
Squall88uk said:
I actually came here to find the answer to something similar. I think my issues and yours are related.
I also have the b180 firmware and have noticed that apps do not seem to be receiving app usage data despite me having given them access in "settings>security>apps with usage access"......
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Thank You for your answer. That's exactly my thoughts.
I'm still in process of finding a backgate for this problem.
No success yet ;/
Raven78uk said:
Thank You for your answer. That's exactly my thoughts.
I'm still in process of finding a backgate for this problem.
No success yet ;/
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Do you know if the issue was there in the previous version of the firmware to b180? Just wondering if it's just a bug in b180 or in Huawei's implementation of lollipop in general.
I hear that Marshmallow (stable) is being released soon in the UK. Maybe the problem will be fixed in that update anyway. We can only hope.
Let me know if you manage to find a backgate. If I come across anything I'll let you know too. I'm waiting to hear back from Huawei at the moment.
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Do you know if the issue was there in the previous version of the firmware to b180? Just wondering if it's just a bug in b180 or in Huawei's implementation of lollipop in general.
I hear that Marshmallow (stable) is being released soon in the UK. Maybe the problem will be fixed in that update anyway. We can only hope.
Let me know if you manage to find a backgate. If I come across anything I'll let you know too. I'm waiting to hear back from Huawei at the moment.
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Yesss :laugh: Found app which works and it's great !!!!
Shows 6 last recent apps. Swipeable from edge of screen. Independent from system recent app which means even if you clear recent apps there, they still exist in app i found Very customizable
Name is 'Swiftly switch' .
PM me if you need 'help' installing
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3. Opera Max recently received a feature whereby it can track background data usage on an app by app basis. This works fine on my old phone but on the honor 7, Opera Max is unable to distinguish whether the data is being used in the background or whether it's being used while I am using the app actively. Weirdly it does seem to be able to work out what apps I have been using at least although other apps don't.
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It monitors traffic generated by apps as it passes through the VPN hence it's able to distinguish these, where the rest relies on the usage access API for data usage stats. This is also why in certain cases data usage can differ between what the OS reports and what is displayed in Opera Max.
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It monitors traffic generated by apps as it passes through the VPN hence it's able to distinguish these, where the rest relies on the usage access API for data usage stats. This is also why in certain cases data usage can differ between what the OS reports and what is displayed in Opera Max.
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So would this be why it is able to work out how much data I have used (based on the traffic that has passed through the VPN) but not able to distinguish whether that data was in the background or not due to no access to usage data?
Also do you work for Opera?? Weirdly enough I won this phone from a competition that was run by Opera over Christmas.
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So would this be why it is able to work out how much data I have used (based on the traffic that has passed through the VPN) but not able to distinguish whether that data was in the background or not due to no access to usage data?
Also do you work for Opera?? Weirdly enough I won this phone from a competition that was run by Opera over Christmas.
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Exactly. We need to have usage access to see what app is in the foreground. By that we can mark the rest as in the background and categorize the traffic accordingly. There's a bit of lag in reporting the foreground app (up to 1s, depends on the device, usually around 200ms IIRC) and I'm not sure if we tested this with floating windows yet.
Yes, I work at Opera in a QA Engineer role for Max . I hope you're satisfied with your prize .
If you know your way around ADB you can send me logcats if there are any exceptions thrown due to this issue by Max .
Alternatively you could just wait for the Android MM OTA and see if it fixes the issue.
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Exactly. We need to have usage access to see what app is in the foreground. By that we can mark the rest as in the background and categorize the traffic accordingly. There's a bit of lag in reporting the foreground app (up to 1s, depends on the device, usually around 200ms IIRC) and I'm not sure if we tested this with floating windows yet.
Yes, I work at Opera in a QA Engineer role for Max . I hope you're satisfied with your prize .
If you know your way around ADB you can send me logcats if there are any exceptions thrown due to this issue by Max .
Alternatively you could just wait for the Android MM OTA and see if it fixes the issue.
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Yeah its a really good phone, just wish Huawei would give me my bootloader unlock code so I can root, but that's a whole other story and topic
I can send you logcats if you want them although I haven't experienced any real issues with Opera Max other than the occasional notification telling me that certain apps have used a lot of background data which I actually used as foreground data but thats not really an issue with the app but rather the app working correctly with the information that is being provided to it by the phone so I can't really fault it for that.
I did report the issue to Honor UK and they said they would submit it as a bug and that hopefully it will be sorted in the Marshmallow update. Just waiting for the update which should be soon hopefully.
Thanks for the clarification anyway. The whole team at opera do a great job with both Opera Max and Opera Browser.
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I can send you logcats if you want them although I haven't experienced any real issues with Opera Max other than the occasional notification telling me that certain apps have used a lot of background data which I actually used as foreground data but thats not really an issue with the app but rather the app working correctly with the information that is being provided to it by the phone so I can't really fault it for that.
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That's an interesting edge case we didn't bump into yet. Sanity-checking system APIs in the app can make sense but on the other hand there's no easy way to later test these cases. It's easier to assume that the app is at fault then and just gather feedback from users .
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I did report the issue to Honor UK and they said they would submit it as a bug and that hopefully it will be sorted in the Marshmallow update. Just waiting for the update which should be soon hopefully.
Thanks for the clarification anyway. The whole team at opera do a great job with both Opera Max and Opera Browser.
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I'll assume then that the Honor team will tackle this issue then . It's a pity they don't ship with the bootloader unlocked. Having root on devices is essential for comfortable debugging of VPN issues so I feel you .
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zamber88 said:
I'll assume then that the Honor team will tackle this issue then . It's a pity they don't ship with the bootloader unlocked. Having root on devices is essential for comfortable debugging of VPN issues so I feel you .
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I now have an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and rooted marshmallow installed. It seems so far that any issues that I was having that were related to requiring access to app usage data are all fixed in the marshmallow update. Opera Max is now working how it used to with correct reporting of what data was used in the foreground and what data was used in the background.
All is good in marshmallow land on my Honor 7 now.
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I now have an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and rooted marshmallow installed. It seems so far that any issues that I was having that were related to requiring access to app usage data are all fixed in the marshmallow update. Opera Max is now working how it used to with correct reporting of what data was used in the foreground and what data was used in the background.
All is good in marshmallow land on my Honor 7 now.
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Good to hear that MM works fine for you and that you finally got an unlocked bootloader!
There is an issue with the latest list so don't copy it completely. I got a bootloop after restarting my phone today and I had to factory reset... this is as of 10/8/16 at 12:50pm. The list from the 5th of October on back should be fine. I'm currently trying to sort out the issue.
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Here is a list of apps and services which can be disabled on the Note 7 while still maintaining stability; Data, Calling, Texting, MMS, Wi-Fi, Tethering, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, Camera, EQ, HD Calling, Always On and all the S-Pen features work, but most other things are turned off like Fingerprint, Iris, NFC, Edge Panel, Pay Services, etc... This list isn't meant to be copied exactly by everyone because we all use our devices differently but you can pick and choose what you want to get the optimal performance from your device.
As of 10/6/16 I have 180+ apps and services disabled and today I got over 8 hours of SOT with 11% battery left (over 9 hours projected of SOT based on the days' usage). I didn't use any power saving modes and kept my brightness at a reasonable level so using the device was easy and not annoying due to the brightness being so low. I had location and sync enabled and wasn't doing any unnatural things trying to squeeze out as much battery life as I could. This was real world usage with all the necessary features and background processes running so using the device felt natural and functional. I say this so people don't think I fudged these numbers by doing things like letting my phone sit with the screen on while at the lowest brightness and not using it, or that I was using some power saving modes to squeeze out as much life as possible. My phone ran at full power all day. I've never even toggled power saving mode on my phone before.
Due to XDA's limit on the amount of image uploads I'm going to create two post with the complete list of disabled apps and link them here in the OP.
I'm using EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the play store to disable these apps and services. I bought that one because it had the highest rating.
Below here are some updates I posted during the process of figuring out what to disable. The post with the latest date is always going to have the most current and relevant information.
9/30/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68930083&postcount=16
10/2/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68950934&postcount=23
10/3/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972097&postcount=26 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972131&postcount=27
10/5/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68999679&postcount=33
[UNSTABLE something in this list caused me to bootloop]10/6/16 - 184 Disabled Apps & Services List Part 1 Here and Part 2 Here XML Export File List Here
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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tonymy01 said:
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Actually, most of the features are still there. I bought it for the S-pen features and all that is still there. Did you go through the list and see what I turned off or are you just replying to reply? If you read my OG post you'd see I said that my goal was to keep the functionality of the device.
This phone is loaded with bloat and useless services and apps that most will never use. All these things can cause battery drain, cpu usage, ram usage, hardware heat, among other things. So why not turn off what is not needed? It doesn't matter how much ram the phone has, why run stuff that doesn't need to run since you aren't using it?
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, Samsung cloud (much more useful than Google backup as it supports call logs, sms and other recoveries), the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Like I said, I bought it for the S-pen features. What I disabled I don't use and have no use for. Also If I want to use them at any time I can just reenable them. So let's go through your list. Fingerprint, I use swipe or a pin or a pattern. S-health, I use google fit, or nothing since I don't need a smartphone to tell me how to be fit. Android pay, I use cash. Software updating, if I want an update I can manually grab it, I don't need a service running constantly checking for them. Iris scanner, it's stupid and I'll never use it. Gmail, I use inbox and Alto. Standard email, I only have gmail accounts so don't need other email services. Game launcher, I don't play games. Emergency Alerts, seriously? You are just looking for things to justify your post, EA's are useless and annoying when they pop up and have never benefited me once. Car mode, I have no use for it since I drive a 2000 windstar minivan and waze provides me with all I need in a car. Also, you didn't name one thing that makes this phone great but rather things that are basically on all Android's. Again, I bought the phone for the S-pen, all that is still there. Why are you even doing this? your post are as useless as the apps and services I disabled.
Troll flushed where it belongs. Goodbye, no need to be so rude about it.
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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Totally agree. I will try testing N7 when I get mine. First factory reset it out of the box (maybe get the update first then factory reset it with recovery). After that set it up keep all apps and see how battery is... the try the disabler I loke to debloat because phone looks much more cleaner then. And any debloat list is totally personal that why I used TB on my rooted devices, this time won't rush to root
Just disable the damn phone, turn it off and stop using it lol
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Why all the hate?
I really don't get when people post about disabling certain features that others get upset. Or use power saver, etc.
This is one of the great things about Android, the ability to customize and mod our phones to our liking. Try doing any of these things with an Iphone, you can't. So this particular user wants to disable Gmail and messages because he uses other services (Inbox is awesome). He reports back that things still seem stable? Great! I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
Let's talk about the great features we have, which include the ability to replace core apps if we desire. Don't jump on someone for doing so.
A mouse running into a room at a party doesn't cause chaos, how people react to it does. We are all responsible for our own actions. You don't like how someone else customizes their phone, who cares? Move on to the next post.
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jmitr said:
Why all the hate? I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
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Used the phone very heavy today and ran into no real issues. I had to reenable one service because I tried to use the built-in EQ and it made settings crash. I was able to find the cause in less than a minute and reenable it The service that needs to run for the EQ to work is "SoundAlive" on page 8.
Also got 2.75 hours of SOT and 3 hours of gps use and was right at 50% battery left. At the end of tomorrow I'm going to post some screenshots.
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
Mdizzle1 said:
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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No problem. I plan on trying to get more added to the list. Once I know what I've added so far is safe and doesn't cause any issues I'll slowly add more.
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I've done another day of heavy use today and I'm very happy with my results. I had over 3 hours of SOT using auto brightness which stayed on max brightness most of the time since I was outside and I still had over 40% (I estimate I was on track to get very close to 6 hours SOT with max auto brightness!!!) battery left when I got home. I also used GPS for about an hour along with installing app, and constantly doing other stuff on the phone. I'm going to update the OP with some more screenshots. But from these past two full days of very heavy use and no force closes or issues to speak of (other than having to turn SoundAlive back on for the EQ to work) I'm going to say what I've disabled so far is safe and causes no dependency issues. Also, the phone runs very smooth and doesn't get hot at all. Even today with basically 3 straight hours of SOT and max auto brightness the phone never heated up.
Oh! I'm at 101 things disabled now (not including my downloaded disabled apps) which is how I ran it all day today. More to come! Once I feel like I've found everything I can disable safely I'll do a new updated OP with all I found.
9/30/16 screenshots just showing some battery and cpu use stats. In the future I'm going to add some temp stats. If anyone has a good app for monitoring temps let me know even if it's paid. I don't mind buying apps that are good and useful.
Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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I've always hated automation. I can't stand things running without my permission! I've had all startup programs on windows disabled since 2003 Back in the day on Windows XP I got my active running services in task manager to below 20. I'm now at 101 things disabled on the note 7 and I know there is a ton more I can turn off but I'm going about things slowly. I've confirmed that the 101 things I've turned off so far are safe and the phone definitely runs better in every way.
As far as the ram theories and myths about Android it's mostly people repeating their misunderstandings. Of course if you are using the apps in the ram a lot it's good for them to be there because they will load faster but if you are never using those apps and services and they are still sitting in your ram then it's not productive and a waste of resources which will cause the phone to not run optimally. These phones (and computers) come preloaded with tons of stuff running because they are targeted at the average user and not at the power/informed users. Anyone who knows much of anything about computers and how they are setup from the factory knows they are not configured for performance but rather a balance between performance and usability. Of course Android is getting better and better at managing apps and putting them to sleep but there still is nothing better than completely disabling things you don't need and will never use and thereby freeing up resources you can use for things you are actually using...wow! what a concept, have resources there to use for things you actually use! Genius! People seem to act like having ram full just for the sake of having it full is a good thing in Android when that is completely false. Even Android likes to have resources free that it can use for other things.
142 disabled apps and services
So I'm now sitting at 142 things disabled. I'm going to run my current setup for a couple days and see how it goes. I'll report back the results. Hopefully in a week or so I'll have a full list of what can be turned off without having issues.
Looking forward to your end results. Thank You for sharing your experience debloating.
I say possible because the possible solution is basically disabling a system app, but this was after disabling other system apps and mucking around with settings, so it might be a combination of apps being disabled, but i dont think so
By the way, i can confirm that twrp from the here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-1/development/unlocking-rooting-nokia-1-stock-rom-t3832230 works, and so does the latest magisk 17.
Twrp
Ive succesfully used the backup/install feature but havent had the courage yet to test the wipe and restore (data,system) feature, although following that ^ guide ^, looks like restore recovery/boot image works, so thats hopefully a good sign
Magisk
Following that guide, use twrp to flash, no major issues with installation.
Note, if you follow that guide and you come to the bit where the stock recovery only shows "no commands", hold press power button + up volume for a sec or two, or at least thats what i read somewhere, read somewhere else to just press these buttons continually on and off, which i did randomly, and eventually the stock recovery options appeared, dont know why this is this way
Anyways, the culprit, assuming im right barring the above reasons was........a system app called EMM or emmupdate (literately the apps name changed on my phone, i remembered it was emmupdate and now, after checking, its changed to emm, thats weird)
I used a root based logcat app
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.dp.logcatapp/
to try and see if there was anything to see, using a particular app i could reliably duplicate the issue with (swiping away from recents app would turn off this apps service removing its notification a couple seconds after being cleared from recents, this app being https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ite&pcampaignid=APPU_1_LUahW_D4DonSgAajx4y4Aw
Paused the logcat searched for the app, and saw a reference with this app, showing the emm app and references to "killing"
Solution
My particular solution was this app,(requires root)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.rootservicedisabler
(i dont think you can disable this emm app normally like some system apps, check, i could be wrong)
-in my brief researching this area, i saw discussions that you may be able to do this with adb(i dont know for sure, but might be worth looking into it yourselves, if you dont want to root, no guarantees)
The service disabler app lets you disable, well, services, and this emm app had one service attached to it called "MemoryManagerService", so maybe thats what did it, and not the disabling of the app, so i suggest that if you use this app, also disable the service as i did, for the emm app if disabling the app only, did nothing
IMPORTANT- Reboot the phone after, as thats when the change took affect for me
Ive rebooted, slept, and cleared recents and so far, multiple background apps that were continually being killed before, have NOT been killed
Hope this helps, hope it works.........silly that we have to do this
Well i did the same thing by analyazing the logcat through adb. What i found was that any app was killed after this so called emmservice in emmapp was run. After this the activity manager simple killed that app.
To check i choose emm app and turned d switch off under background apps in developer options. Also fc emm.apk. but still problem was there.
Ill check your workaround. It sounds more promising.
coolboyforeva said:
Well i did the same thing by analyazing the logcat through adb. What i found was that any app was killed after this so called emmservice in emmapp was run. After this the activity manager simple killed that app.
To check i choose emm app and turned d switch off under background apps in developer options. Also fc emm.apk. but still problem was there.
Ill check your workaround. It sounds more promising.
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If you get the time, let us know if it works, that way anyone else with the same issue who comes across this thread at least has a way to make the phone multitask
An open source alternative to the disable services app, is an app called oandbackup on the fdroid store(like titanium backup), has a feature that lets you disable apps(requires root), aswell as backup/restore apps and their data, its very good
I just tried looking for a non root solution, but it seems that adb solution i briefly saw earlier also needs root
Besides that, like i said in my first post, it could have been the disabling of emmupdate/s service in the disable service app, so if disabling alone doesnt do it, try disabling the service aswell...........i kinda wanna know the least amount of steps to get it fixed, so if disabling did it alone, that would be worth knowing
Gd luck
Spoke to soon, seems like there might be a way to use adb without root to disable system apps https://www.androidpit.com/uninstall-system-apps-without-root, whether it works on oreo i dont know.
The article solution implies the this will uninstall the apps, but apparently, according to a commenter in that article, it deletes a part of the app in a certain place in android that essentially just disables it, if you did a factory reset, the app would return
If it works, at least users wont have to go through the trouble or risk of mistake in flashing twrp/root or any other modifications to fix it, assuming just disabling emm....... works.
banderos101 said:
If you get the time, let us know if it works, that way anyone else with the same issue who comes across this thread at least has a way to make the phone multitask
An open source alternative to the disable services app, is an app called oandbackup on the fdroid store(like titanium backup), has a feature that lets you disable apps(requires root), aswell as backup/restore apps and their data, its very good
I just tried looking for a non root solution, but it seems that adb solution i briefly saw earlier also needs root
Besides that, like i said in my first post, it could have been the disabling of emmupdate/s service in the disable service app, so if disabling alone doesnt do it, try disabling the service aswell...........i kinda wanna know the least amount of steps to get it fixed, so if disabling did it alone, that would be worth knowing
Gd luck
Spoke to soon, seems like there might be a way to use adb without root to disable system apps https://www.androidpit.com/uninstall-system-apps-without-root, whether it works on oreo i dont know.
The article solution implies the this will uninstall the apps, but apparently, according to a commenter in that article, it deletes a part of the app in a certain place in android that essentially just disables it, if you did a factory reset, the app would return
If it works, at least users wont have to go through the trouble or risk of mistake in flashing twrp/root or any other modifications to fix it, assuming just disabling emm....... works.
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I tried. I can confirm the root method works. However, i also did the adb method. The adb too works. Apps are not killed by android now. No need to unlock bootloader, root or twrp. It just executing 2 commands
Code:
adb shell pm clear com.evenwell.emm
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.evenwell.emm
And then reboot.
This clears the app data and disables the app for current user.
And, moreover it survives ota updates too. !!
Only thing to keep in mind is that if you factory reset, you have to re execute above 2 adb commands.
So now all sorted. Just a matter of executing 2 commands.
coolboyforeva said:
I tried. I can confirm the root method works. However, i also did the adb method. The adb too works. Apps are not killed by android now. No need to unlock bootloader, root or twrp. It just executing 2 commands
Code:
adb shell pm clear com.evenwell.emm
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.evenwell.emm
And then reboot.
This clears the app data and disables the app for current user.
And, moreover it survives ota updates too. !!
Only thing to keep in mind is that if you factory reset, you have to re execute above 2 adb commands.
So now all sorted. Just a matter of executing 2 commands.
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Very nice, now we know a solution
There you go folks, thanks to coolboyforeva's info, work, testing, and confirmation, anyone who comes across this annoying issue now has a non root solution to fix it, two adb commands.............not to bad, not to bad at all
Cheers CBF, for finding the specific adb commands, and the helpful info, hope it was'nt to much of a bother...........doing gods work pal
can confirm that the adb method works and can easily multitask now... thanks guys... no force closures of app now.....
Any you guys noticing a delay after reboot for your user apps to start, or just me.
Edit: even during operation(comes and goes), example app = Tasker
Edit2: mmmm, i have a suspicion it might be something to do with gaining root from magisk. Magisk has a few settings that changes how this works, so i might mess around with that first and see what happens. Might also just be tasker/oreo incompatibilities, or perhaps conflicting tasks
Probably gonna look into it, ill post here if i find anything, unless someone beats me to the punch, suspect its one of the manufactor's sytem "optimizing" apps..........
Was hoping we'd be swimming in custom roms, seing as our device SEEMS to be treble compatible and so cheap, a nice bloat free working lineage as daily driver..........guess ill have to stream line stock as much as possible until that day hopefully comes
banderos101 said:
Any you guys noticing a delay after reboot for your user apps to start, or just me.
Edit: even during operation(comes and goes), example app = Tasker
Edit2: mmmm, i have a suspicion it might be something to do with gaining root from magisk. Magisk has a few settings that changes how this works, so i might mess around with that first and see what happens. Might also just be tasker/oreo incompatibilities, or perhaps conflicting tasks
Probably gonna look into it, ill post here if i find anything, unless someone beats me to the punch, suspect its one of the manufactor's sytem "optimizing" apps..........
Was hoping we'd be swimming in custom roms, seing as our device SEEMS to be treble compatible and so cheap, a nice bloat free working lineage as daily driver..........guess ill have to stream line stock as much as possible until that day hopefully comes
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Yes there is delay. Bt i think it would be there. Initially when apps were killed u had enough ram to quickly process any app. But now since apps reside, android ram management has to manage. And that delay in app starting maybe coz be hardware. Its a low grade mediatek chipset. I dont expect it to be quick. (Atleast it auto start apps after delay). But yes if you could find some clue to optimize , that would be good.
Meanwhile i am looking for a pie rom. treble rom works on our nokia 1. I flashed phh treble pie gsi. It boots normal. Only thing is you dont get notified of incoming calls, no rings. Outgoing calls work normal though. So it cant be used.
Link for rom : https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
If this issue is resolved we could have a ready pie rom too.
coolboyforeva said:
Yes there is delay. Bt i think it would be there. Initially when apps were killed u had enough ram to quickly process any app. But now since apps reside, android ram management has to manage. And that delay in app starting maybe coz be hardware. Its a low grade mediatek chipset. I dont expect it to be quick. (Atleast it auto start apps after delay). But yes if you could find some clue to optimize , that would be good.
Meanwhile i am looking for a pie rom. treble rom works on our nokia 1. I flashed phh treble pie gsi. It boots normal. Only thing is you dont get notified of incoming calls, no rings. Outgoing calls work normal though. So it cant be used.
Link for rom : https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
If this issue is resolved we could have a ready pie rom too.
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Cheers buddy, nice to know these things, good to know that theres already an initial treble rom.
Gonna wait for incoming call ring support, might give it a couple of months actually, before trying out any rom that might come along, let the bugs get settled if any, assuming were lucky enough to get a maintainer
Edit
Commenting about the slow response time of user apps, normally i'd agree with you on the outdated hardware, but either the rom is very streamlined or the hardware is not so bad, as the phone is surprisingly snappy when its not stalling, which leads me to believe its a system app/service........ive had slow devices, and usually, everything is slow all the time, either because outdated hardware or heavy rom, so hopefully its a system app
Adb method works well here, tanks a lot. No UB, no root.
I'll be trying the ADB method when have enough charge as had to take Nokia 2.1 back and for that device having a Snapdragon I can confirm that this Nokia 1 is quicker by a mile
I done the adb method and it's worked!!!
thank you guys for this hack. multi-tasking is finally working and alot of overlays and apps are now working without closing.
I'll share with you something i found to make this phone really fast: in developer mode disable animations from x1 to OFF. Then turn ON gpu for 2d drawings. And reboot.
Now it will be buttery smooth!!
ADDED 1 AUG 2019: THIS WAS WRITTEN FOR THE WIFI-ONLY T720, *NOT* THE LTE-ENABLED T725. OBVIOUSLY BE AWARE OF ALL THE PHONE RELATED PACKAGES
For those with the S5e wanting to debloat your tablet without rooting I have some, hopefully, useful info.
See this post by @Catmobile for an excellent explanation of why devs have trouble keeping Samsung package disabler apps on Play Store. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80048718&postcount=42
I used the app Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung) by policedeveloper available on Play Store here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elmklmsamsung.batteryaddon No longer available, and does not even work on my device anymore.
UPDATE 16 JUL 19: Above app is reportedly once again available on Play Store. HOWEVER, those who recently purchased it have to do so AGAIN! Please consider this if you decide to purchase.
For those with better skills and a computer, using adb's 'pm uninstall -k --user 0 <package name>' is an option, too. You can use the 'disable lists' to facilitate this.
Find here an example by @Catmobile of how to use ADB shell https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80054354&postcount=44
IMPORTANT: You won't really know the true effects of your disabling til you restart the tablet! On the other hand, it seems that undisabling (re-enabling?) takes effect immediately.
I did a web search and found an .xml file that had packages disabled on a Galaxy S10 or S8. Unfortunately I don't remember from where I got the file but this and other files are available in my shared pCloud folder https://bit.ly/2VXRoLt
Updated link 26aug21 http://u.pc.cd/5pqctalK
You'll find below files, among others, there:
disabledpackages-Package Disabler Pro+ DEFAULT ALL BLOATWARE-46ofthem.xml
>>The default packages using 'Disable all Bloatware' option in Package Disabler Pro+
disabledpackages-S8orS10-125ofthem.xml
>>The file I found. When I used this the tablet UI slowed to a crawl. From my previous experimentation I suspected that disabling the phone apps was the culprit. I was right, and am currently using my tablet without any discernable issues using the xml file below. Obviously, examine the file before using it to see if it fits your needs. For instance, I don't use Bixby, so I disabled it.
[EDIT] File deleted.
disabledpackages-WORKINGFINE-SOMEphoneStuffReEnabled-119ofthem.xml
>>The file I exported from Package Disabler Pro+ after reenabling some packages.
[EDIT] Replaced by disabledpackages133-OK.xml
Below are the packages I reenabled in order to get the tab back to 'normal'. I'll continue with experimentation to see which one(s) are causing the slow-down, and report back here.
Code:
00001 <importExportSetting>
00002 <disabledPackages class="java.util.ArrayList">
00003 <string>com.android.carrierconfig</string>
00004 <string>com.android.carrierdefaultapp</string>
00005 <string>com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim</string>
00006 <string>com.android.phone</string>
00007 <string>com.android.providers.telephony</string>
00008 <string>com.samsung.android.dialer</string>
00009 <string>com.samsung.android.providers.contacts</string>
00010 <string>com.sec.phone</string>
00011 </disabledPackages>
00012 </importExportSetting>
Few More Packages Disabled
Here are some more. Haven't really messed with the phone stuff yet, but this addition brings total disabled packages to 126.
Code:
+00024 <string>com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.connectionsecurity</string>
+00025 <string>com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent</string>
+00076 <string>com.android.chrome</string>
+00101 <string>com.sec.android.soagent</string>
+00120 <string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.stamp.preload</string>
+00123 <string>com.samsung.systemui.hidenotch</string>
Figured Out What Caused Slow UI
With further testing I figured out that com.android.providers.telephony DIALER STORAGEis what was causing slowness. Who'd a thunk it?
This is probably my last post in this thread, and present below what I currently have disabled while maintaining, for me, full functionality. In my case 'full funtionality' means no Bixby, Knox, Phone stuff, Telemetry (as far as I can using this method), most Samsung bloat as well as a few other things. I'll continue experimenting, though.
My choices might not meet everyone's needs, but they work for me. Use the code below as a starting point, and, Happy Deloating!
Code:
<importExportSetting>
<disabledPackages class="java.util.ArrayList">
<string>android.autoinstalls.config.samsung</string>
<string>com.android.bookmarkprovider</string>
<string>com.android.calllogbackup</string>
<string>com.android.carrierconfig</string>
<string>com.android.carrierdefaultapp</string>
<string>com.android.chrome</string>
<string>com.android.cts.ctsshim</string>
<string>com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim</string>
<string>com.android.dreams.basic</string>
<string>com.android.dreams.phototable</string>
<string>com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle</string>
<string>com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle</string>
<string>com.android.managedprovisioning</string>
<string>com.android.phone</string>
<string>com.android.printspooler</string>
<string>com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks</string>
<string>com.android.server.telecom</string>
<string>com.android.sharedstoragebackup</string>
<string>com.android.simappdialog</string>
<string>com.android.stk</string>
<string>com.android.wallpaper.livepicker</string>
<string>com.android.wallpapercropper</string>
<string>com.audible.application</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.sample.acquirechannels</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.server</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.service.socket</string>
<string>com.google.android.apps.maps</string>
<string>com.google.android.apps.turbo</string>
<string>com.google.android.gm</string>
<string>com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox</string>
<string>com.google.android.setupwizard</string>
<string>com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar</string>
<string>com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts</string>
<string>com.google.android.tts</string>
<string>com.google.android.youtube</string>
<string>com.knox.vpn.proxyhandler</string>
<string>com.microsoft.skydrive</string>
<string>com.monotype.android.font.foundation</string>
<string>com.osp.app.signin</string>
<string>com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.connectionsecurity</string>
<string>com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.telemetry</string>
<string>com.samsung.aasaservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.advp.imssettings</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.aircommandmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.allshare.service.fileshare</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.allshare.service.mediashare</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.facear.preload</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.stamp.preload</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.galaxyfinder</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.reminder</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.social</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.spage</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.authfw</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bbc.bbcagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.beaconmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bio.face.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.calendar</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.clipboarduiservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.contacts</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.dialer</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.dqagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.easysetup</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.emojiupdater</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.fmm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gamehome</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gametools</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gos</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.homemode</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.incallui</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.keyguardwallpaperupdator</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.analytics.uploader</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.containeragent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.containercore</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.containerdesktop</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.location</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.lool</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mdecservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mdm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.messaging</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mobileservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.net.wifi.wifiguider</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.provider.stickerprovider</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.samsungpass</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.scloud</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.securitylogagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.smartface</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.smartswitchassistant</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.stickercenter</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.tadownloader</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.video</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.visionintelligence</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.wellbeing</string>
<string>com.samsung.app.newtrim</string>
<string>com.samsung.clipboardsaveservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.cmh</string>
<string>com.samsung.ims.smk</string>
<string>com.samsung.knox.keychain</string>
<string>com.samsung.knox.securefolder</string>
<string>com.samsung.mlp</string>
<string>com.samsung.oh</string>
<string>com.samsung.safetyinformation</string>
<string>com.samsung.sec.android.application.csc</string>
<string>com.samsung.SMT</string>
<string>com.samsung.storyservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.bixby2</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.hidenotch.withoutcornerround</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.hidenotch</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.billing</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.samsungapps</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.SecSetupWizard</string>
<string>com.sec.android.daemonapp</string>
<string>com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent</string>
<string>com.sec.android.mimage.gear360editor</string>
<string>com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching</string>
<string>com.sec.android.soagent</string>
<string>com.sec.android.splitsound</string>
<string>com.sec.android.uibcvirtualsoftkey</string>
<string>com.sec.android.widgetapp.samsungapps</string>
<string>com.sec.bcservice</string>
<string>com.sec.enterprise.knox.cloudmdm.smdms</string>
<string>com.sec.enterprise.mdm.services.simpin</string>
<string>com.sec.factory</string>
<string>com.sec.phone</string>
<string>com.sec.spp.push</string>
<string>com.wssyncmldm</string>
<string>flipboard.boxer.app</string>
</disabledPackages>
</importExportSetting>
Did all of this work result in anything positive? Less memory use? Snappier UI? Less dandruff?
yRdcMIbiR6 said:
Did all of this work result in anything positive? Less memory use? Snappier UI? Less dandruff?
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Whiter teeth ? and better sleep ? Actually, for me it's all about not letting someone else dictate what my tablet does, and what information is 'shared' (stolen, is how I view it). For instance, this thing has a telemetry function. I don't care what kind of telemetry it is, I din't want it. Also, this thing is not a phone and I don't use it for phone-like activities, so I don't want it to try to act like a phone, with all the activity in the background. I could go on and on, but...
To answer your question, no noticeable increase in performance. I do, however, enjoy the benefits I mentioned in the first sentence—except for the 'whiter teeth' thing.
I will root this tablet and then have full control—lots and lots of deleting files and folders. I can hardly wait!
I just got this tablet today, my last one was a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 before switching to a Surface Pro.
I missed Android multitasking and the apps which I'm pleased to have back but what's not nice is the amount of clutter that still exists in Samsung's ROMs.
I hope we can get AOSP or Lineage ported to this as One UI sucks.
The hardware is beast though. I'm going to give that app you suggested a try. Thanks.
flyboyovyick said:
I'm going to give that app you suggested a try. Thanks.
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I agree. This my my first large-screen tablet—8.4" before—and I love it! The app works quite well. It is what allowed me to experiment. When I root, even if I don't install a custom ROM—I have no problem with the OneUI, uh, UI—I'll know what to start with, uninstall-wise.
One thing I don't like is inability to use Substratum—at least for now. If you find a way to theme this tablet please let us know.
I did end up caving and buying that package disabler, used your latest script and re-enabled some apps.
Found that now the icons are missing from the notifications drop down which is fantastic! It was cluttered.
Couple of things to note:
Dolby Atmos has gone, I used this when watching Netflix as it did make a difference.
One UI Home app, also known as com.sec.android.app.launcher, when disabled will give you the stock Android multitasking which is fantastic! I use Evie launcher so I would RECOMMEND you have a different launcher installed before doing this.
I've done a quick search for the Atmos app but no luck so far, if you have any ideas?
Thanks!
flyboyovyick said:
I did end up caving and buying that package disabler, used your latest script and re-enabled some apps.
Found that now the icons are missing from the notifications drop down which is fantastic! It was cluttered.
Couple of things to note:
Dolby Atmos has gone, I used this when watching Netflix as it did make a difference.
One UI Home app, also known as com.sec.android.app.launcher, when disabled will give you the stock Android multitasking which is fantastic! I use Evie launcher so I would RECOMMEND you have a different launcher installed before doing this.
I've done a quick search for the Atmos app but no luck so far, if you have any ideas?
Thanks!
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Good to hear someone is benefiting from this!
I hadn't done anything where the audio was of concern, so I didn't notice. I just installed a few games though, RealRacing 3 being one of them, so now I care! No ideas, so I'll have to do some researching.
Thanks for the OneUI info. I use Nova Prime and frequently try out other ones, 'hyperion' being the latest, even though it force closes on opening—it bugs me that I can't easily get a proper log. Love Evie for my phone.
BTW, the link at https://bit.ly/2VXRoLt has my disabledpackages133-OK.xml file, which has all the changes in one file.
[EDIT] Reenabled OneUI cuz I like the way recents are shown.
TiTiB said:
Good to hear someone is benefiting from this!
I hadn't done anything where the audio was of concern, so I didn't notice. I just installed a few games though, RealRacing 3 being one of them, so now I care! No ideas, so I'll have to do some researching.
Thanks for the OneUI info. I use Nova Prime and frequently try out other ones, 'hyperion' being the latest, even though it force closes on opening—it bugs me that I can't easily get a proper log. Love Evie for my phone.
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Yes thank you for sharing it.
Atmos is missing from the notification quick toggles and in the Settings under Sound > Advanced Settings. Will have to look through the disabled apps. Have you since uninstalled the apps completely?
Just need to get that working now. Had an issue with Evie when rotating to portrait, it would leave half the screen white for some reason so now I have moved to Nova Launcher which works flawlessly.
My tablet does feel quicker now, I have all the animations turned off in Developer Options. Especially on boot it's not lagging, ready to go sooner. I've even got the 6GB/128GB version.
flyboyovyick said:
Yes thank you for sharing it.
Atmos is missing from the notification quick toggles and in the Settings under Sound > Advanced Settings. Will have to look through the disabled apps. Have you since uninstalled the apps completely?
Just need to get that working now. Had an issue with Evie when rotating to portrait, it would leave half the screen white for some reason so now I have moved to Nova Launcher which works flawlessly.
My tablet does feel quicker now, I have all the animations turned off in Developer Options. Especially on boot it's not lagging, ready to go sooner. I've even got the 6GB/128GB version.
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Haven't uninstalled anything yet.
Just checked, and Atmos is there for me—able to change settings for it, too.
Here's something you could try—do a file compare between what you have disabled, and my '133-ok' list, which is still working fime for me. I've been using DiffTool the File Compare Tool from Play Store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.difftool to compare what I had newly disabled with what I had previously disabled. The interface and usage is a bit clunky (the dev has stated something to the effect of "it's a tool, not a beauty pageant"). HINTS: Use the compare TEXT files, then save the results using the ? icon to be able to use a text editor to see the results.
Please let us know what you find.
[EDIT] I f you find a better way to compare files on Android I'd sure like to know about it.
@TiTiB
Thank you for this valuable contribution. For those looking for root, this is the better route. You'll free up CPU and RAM whilst removing applications deemed unnecessary.
Been a while since I've been able to have a look but I've managed to find it using DiffTool
The package is com.sec.android.app.soundalive, now in Settings > Sound > Advanced Sound Settings > Sound Quality and Effects. Then in there you have Atmos. It's now working again!
Thanks so much for all the info!
Am considering about getting a s5e but the demo unit in my local retailers are kinda sluggish. Not sure if that is because of the bloatware or the demo mode.
May I know if this way of disabling bloatware will void my warranty? How much snappier will the device become after the cpu and ram are being freed up?
Thanks!
monsthamo said:
Thanks so much for all the info!
Am considering about getting a s5e but the demo unit in my local retailers are kinda sluggish. Not sure if that is because of the bloatware or the demo mode.
May I know if this way of disabling bloatware will void my warranty? How much snappier will the device become after the cpu and ram are being freed up?
Thanks!
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No issues with warranty. All you are doing is disabling/freezing apps—something that can be done via Android's normal Settings for a lot of apps. What you'll be able to do via these apps or adb is disable/freeze apps that you wouldn't normally be able to.
I'm not really sure if disabling/freezing has improved performance because this tablet's response to everything I've thrown at it is so brisk! Admittedly,I'm not a big-time gamer—e.g. no Fortnite. My guess is that the demo unit was not set up properly/at all and was also subject to a 'demo mode effect', if there is such a thing. ?
In a nutshell, I think this thing is plenty quick! am *extremely happy with it, and I would recommend it. I don't know what sort of return policy you might be dealing with, but once you get it home it ain't goin' nowhere.
Thanks very much for the info! Let me give a try~
Thanks for sharing, I can confirm that this made the tablet a lot more responsive
I couldn't find the app in the app store...is it still around?
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I couldn't find the app in the app store...is it still around?
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It's "Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung)". Did a search and it came up first on the list. ?
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It's "Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung)". Did a search and it came up first on the list.
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I cannot find any app called "package disabler pro+(Samsung)" ..... so, I think they deleted from playstore....