I'm a noob to the android scene, anyway currrently I'm on 5.0.2 pingpong and I'm planning on updating it. Is there anything I should do before updating? Should I update? Is there anyway to safely downgrade?
Thanks in advance
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If you update to 5.1.1 and you want to root your phone now it will trip your Knox counter... to do it you should first upgrade to an oficial FW using odin and them you can install twrp and flash custom kernel and supersu
maxrdlf95 said:
If you update to 5.1.1 and you want to root your phone now it will trip your Knox counter... to do it you should first upgrade to an official FW using odin and then you can install twrp and flash custom kernel and supersu
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What do you mean? Flashing anything with Odin will trip the Knox counter. This has always been like this. And to have root you need to flash via Odin so Knox will change to 0 x 1
Flashing an oficial firmware Will tríp the counter I think no
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Silvery.Corgan said:
What do you mean? Flashing anything with Odin will trip the Knox counter. This has always been like this. And to have root you need to flash via Odin so Knox will change to 0 x 1
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Negative. Flashing anything except official Samsung packages via Odin will cause Knox Status 0x1.
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hi XDA! just want to ask is it safe to update if your rooted s3 via kies? will it be unroot your device? or does it affect it in such way? thanks more power!
Sv: is it safe?
silvercold said:
hi XDA! just want to ask is it safe to update if your rooted s3 via kies? will it be unroot your device? or does it affect it in such way? thanks more power!
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You can't update any rooted / superuser modified phones thru Kies.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
You can't update any rooted / superuser modified phones thru Kies.
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As long as the ROM & CSC are correct you can update a rooted phone through Kies, as far as I am not wrong, whereas you will loose root and have to re-root. What is not working is the OTA update if you are rooted.
Hence the easiest solution is to download the ROM via sammobile or XDA and flash it via Odin or better Mobile Odin (to keep root).
Sv: is it safe?
chrismast said:
As long as the ROM & CSC are correct you can update a rooted phone through Kies, as far as I am not wrong, whereas you will loose root and have to re-root. What is not working is the OTA update if you are rooted.
Hence the easiest solution is to download the ROM via sammobile or XDA and flash it via Odin or better Mobile Odin (to keep root).
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No, you can't. I've tried myself and it doesn't work.
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Yes, you can update a rooted phone through Kies as long as the csc is correct. You will lose root though, but other than that it's safe.
thanks guys for immediate response.I think i will just use odin to maintained rooted. my only problem is i am not sure what guide to use and which is safer? although i research myself through i am just confused so many guides in using odin. my phone is GT - I9300 android version 4.1.1 with a baseband ver: i9300XXDLIB. i just want to update this to 4.1.2 if possible via odin to maintain rooted. If you guys can help me out which guide to follow that will maintain rooted and safe that will be much appreciated!
thanks a lot!
silvercold said:
thanks guys for immediate response.I think i will just use odin to maintained rooted. my only problem is i am not sure what guide to use and which is safer? although i research myself through i am just confused so many guides in using odin. my phone is GT - I9300 android version 4.1.1 with a baseband ver: i9300XXDLIB. i just want to update this to 4.1.2 if possible via odin to maintain rooted. If you guys can help me out which guide to follow that will maintain rooted and safe that will be much appreciated!
thanks a lot!
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As I mentioned, Mobile Odin is the easiest way as you just select the rom and it flashes incl. root injection. For Odin, simply download the rom you would like to flash (e.g. stock rom from sammobile or prerooted from XDA's general section), and follow the usual steps (e.g. there are easy videos to follow on YouTube & there are many guides in the general section). If you chose to flash a rom that is not yet rooted you will need to flash CF-Auto-Root of CF-Root again.
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As I mentioned, Mobile Odin is the easiest way as you just select the rom and it flashes incl. root injection. For Odin, simply download the rom you would like to flash (e.g. stock rom from sammobile or prerooted from XDA's general section), and follow the usual steps (e.g. there are easy videos to follow on YouTube & there are many guides in the general section). If you chose to flash a rom that is not yet rooted you will need to flash CF-Auto-Root of CF-Root again.
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got it! another question if you don't mind, can i use stock rom using odin without unrooting my device? some people say that if you try to flash your device with official stock rom might unroot phone? is this true or just using odin will prevent your phone from unrooting? no matter what rom you would use. thanks in advance!
silvercold said:
got it! another question if you don't mind, can i use stock rom using odin without unrooting my device? some people say that if you try to flash your device with official stock rom might unroot phone? is this true or just using odin will prevent your phone from unrooting? no matter what rom you would use. thanks in advance!
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there are two ways:
(1) Odin (desktop version): if you flash a stock rom (normal version, not rooted), it will be not rooted, hence you have to root again
(2) Mobile Odin (Adroid Play Store): if you flash a stock rom (normal version, not rooted), you have an option to inject root and directly root it in the process of flashing the rom
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I see, the mobile odin i guess is suited for me. since i dont want to unroot my device i just want to update it.
you can always reroot it afterwards. Or better yet, flash a prerooted ROM
A very quick clarification needed :
I'm running 4.1.2. Want to root in order to remove the bloatware so that I can increase free ram and hence the overall performance. I won't install any custom ROMs, kernels or any mods. Just remove bloatware for the above reason.
After I root my phone, when the official 4.3 firmware for my country(India) releases, if I flash it via Odin, will the root go away ? And also, is flashing via Odin and 4.3 OTA the same in terms of the performance/battery/stability issues of the phone? I mean, can I just root now and flash the official 4.3 later or just wait for the OTA?
Aditya Keri said:
A very quick clarification needed :
I'm running 4.1.2. Want to root in order to remove the bloatware so that I can increase free ram and hence the overall performance. I won't install any custom ROMs, kernels or any mods. Just remove bloatware for the above reason.
After I root my phone, when the official 4.3 firmware for my country(India) releases, if I flash it via Odin, will the root go away ? And also, is flashing via Odin and 4.3 OTA the same in terms of the performance/battery/stability issues of the phone? I mean, can I just root now and flash the official 4.3 later or just wait for the OTA?
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Hello buddy I'm from India too.
Just root the phone and when 4.3 comes out just flash it via odin and that will remove root. If you use ODIN no need to OTA.
Also if you cant wait like me you can install 4.3 ML2 rom via odin too.
Iqbal Ansari said:
Hello buddy I'm from India too.
Just root the phone and when 4.3 comes out just flash it via odin and that will remove root. If you use ODIN no need to OTA.
Also if you cant wait like me you can install 4.3 ML2 rom via odin too.
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But updating any firmware using OTA is better or flashing it via odin is better? I feel OTA is more safe, it won't have any negative consequences. And flashing it via odin might have few negative consequences on the stability. Is it true?!
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Anyone?!
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Aditya Keri said:
But updating any firmware using OTA is better or flashing it via odin is better? I feel OTA is more safe, it won't have any negative consequences. And flashing it via odin might have few negative consequences on the stability. Is it true?!
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Are you kidding.
Infact odin is a better way to update.
Its completely safe go for it.
I would like to flash the ROM available here, forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/development/rom-stock-root-odex-knox-carrieriq-free-t2877511. But, I don't want to trip KNOX and so I can't install a custom recovery. Is this possible? I'm on stock NE6 that's just been towelrooted. I updated the modem and bootloader to NH5 using pc odin 3.09. Can I flash the rooted deodexed stock NH5 firmware that's posted here over it on mobile odin pro?
That one will trip knox.
You need to be on NE5, use towel root, then Mobile Odin to NH5 (stock). If you are on something newer than NE5, downgrade to it using PC ODIN first.
Mobile Odin will inject root into the firmware flash so you won't lose root in the process. You can not install custom recovery or any non-stock firmware without tripping knox.
But doesn't Mobile Odin trip Knox? I had purchased the pro version and started to let it install when it warned of tripping knox so I stopped it.
Thank you ctaranto.
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But doesn't Mobile Odin trip Knox? I had purchased the pro version and started to let it install when it warned of tripping knox so I stopped it.
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IGNORE THE WARNING as long as you flash official samsung firmware knox will not get tripped
ashraf sharif said:
IGNORE THE WARNING as long as you flash official samsung firmware knox will not get tripped
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Like mentioned by Ashraf, only ignore the warning if you are flashing an official Samsung firmware. Any other firmware, like those that have KNOX disabled as the OP mentioned, will trip KNOX.
Thanks for the answer. I've decided to hold off on any further tweaking on this phone for now.
Hello,
I have a SM-G925F with an official firmware (G925FXXU1AOE3) and rooted with PingPong method.
As the title says, can i flash TWRP through Flashfire without triggering the knox ?
Second, can i flash a custom rom through Flashfire without modifying recovery/kernel and triggering the knox?
dahod said:
Hello,
I have a SM-G925F with an official firmware (G925FXXU1AOE3) and rooted with PingPong method.
As the title says, can i flash TWRP through Flashfire without triggering the knox ?
Second, can i flash a custom rom through Flashfire without modifying recovery/kernel and triggering the knox?
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Sorry buddy but it's no and no. Attempting to install any custom recovery will trigger Knox and flash fire only automates the process and avoids you going into recovery mode it still requires a custom recovery to function.
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it still requires a custom recovery to function.
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What are you talking about ? i use flashfire, it doesnt require a custom recovery to function.
My idea is to change the rom (with a custom rom based on an official firmware") but to not touch to the recovery/kernel.
In this case, if i flash it through flashfire, Is it triggers knox?
I always confuse flashify with flashfire. You are correct. Sorry about the confusion.
Is this possible? I am new to samsung! Is this correct, you can flash a custom rom without tripping knox?
Just to be clear, with flashfire you can install twrp and custom kernels without tripping knox?
I haven't tried, but Knox isn't something that checks what you flash and then it's done. It even runs during boot. Whatever you will install to this phone, it will know and it will blow the eFuse if you try. The Software is extremely capable of detecting unofficial firmware. Same applies to flashing a kernel. The kernel will be permissive and not signed properly, which will set of the fuse before you can say "Knox Warranty void"
If I flash an official rom customised with a stock kernel like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-3-t3119968
Are you sure the knox will be triggered ?
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dahod said:
If I flash an official rom customised with a stock kernel like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-3-t3119968
Are you sure the knox will be triggered ?
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i tried to flash the twrp with flashify and my knox was triggered
I don't want to flash twrp ( I know it triggers knox), I just want to flash a rom, not the recovery, not the kernel.
And I talk about flash fire, not flashify.
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dahod said:
I don't want to flash twrp ( I know it triggers knox), I just want to flash a rom, not the recovery, not the kernel.
And I talk about flash fire, not flashify.
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I think so...even if you should be able to flash a rom with odin. I can't find anywhere a modded .tar rom
dahod said:
I don't want to flash twrp ( I know it triggers knox), I just want to flash a rom, not the recovery, not the kernel.
And I talk about flash fire, not flashify.
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Did we ever get a concrete answer on this? I also would like to be able to flash a ROM with flashfire and NOT trip Knox. Has anybody done this successfully?
I just flashed twrp using Flashfire and can confirm that it will trigger knox!
Anybody who has tried to flash a ROM with Flashfire instead of a custom recovery?
Good morning my gentle people.
Recently I got the 6S Edge and naturally of course like every other XDA member I would like to customize it.
I've searched far and wide for more information but all I could find were just the definitions of words. I have multiple questions to ask;
Is there a safe way of rooting my phone? (With KNOX still intact please)
Is there a possibility to unlock the bootloader?
If I root/unlock my bootloader, are there any malfunctions in the behaviour of my phone afterwards?
Is it safe to flash anything when everything is still original? (no root, no unlocked bootloader)
Again some more info:
Buildnumber: MMB29K.G25FXXU4DPIL
Android OS: Marshmallow 6.0.1
KNOX: 2.6
Thanks for the help in advance.
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Good morning my gentle people.
Recently I got the 6S Edge and naturally of course like every other XDA member I would like to customize it.
I've searched far and wide for more information but all I could find were just the definitions of words. I have multiple questions to ask;
Is there a safe way of rooting my phone? (With KNOX still intact please)
Is there a possibility to unlock the bootloader?
If I root/unlock my bootloader, are there any malfunctions in the behaviour of my phone afterwards?
Is it safe to flash anything when everything is still original? (no root, no unlocked bootloader)
Again some more info:
Buildnumber: MMB29K.G25FXXU4DPIL
Android OS: Marshmallow 6.0.1
KNOX: 2.6
Thanks for the help in advance.
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Root will trip knox. All g925f is bootloader unlocked. Should everything functioning. Search cf autoroot in original development section.
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Root will trip knox. All g925f is bootloader unlocked. Should everything functioning. Search cf autoroot in original development section.
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So I can flash anything I want without having to deal with the bootloader?
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So I can flash anything I want without having to deal with the bootloader?
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What recovery is best for my phone?
Also is there an order of which stuff needs to e flashed? Like do I need to flash a recovery before I flash a kernel or a custom rom?
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Also is there an order of which stuff needs to e flashed? Like do I need to flash a recovery before I flash a kernel or a custom rom?
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Flash twrp first.
https://dl.twrp.me/zerolte/
Cf auto root to root your phone. Knox will be tripped.
https://autoroot.chainfire.eu
Then flash any custom roms or kernels through twrp.
callumbr1 said:
Flash twrp first.
https://dl.twrp.me/zerolte/
Cf auto root to root your phone. Knox will be tripped.
https://autoroot.chainfire.eu
Then flash any custom roms or kernels through twrp.
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But we can flash CF auto root via flash fire right? Without tripping the knox count ?
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sam razzy said:
But we can flash CF auto root via flash fire right? Without tripping the knox count ?
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No only flashable zips or .img can he flashed through flash fire. Has to be through odin.
All cf autoroots trip knox
Flash fire is a root app... you need root to use it.
Is there a kernel thats working for 6.0.1? Ive only seen them for android 5 so far.
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Is there a kernel thats working for 6.0.1? Ive only seen them for android 5 so far.
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Unikernel
Hacker kernel
Arter kernel
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Unikernel
Hacker kernel
Arter kernel
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Hacker kernel is my favorite due to good battery life and more control