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John Cooper, UK Product Manager for Sony Mobile, has been taking questions from customers on Facebook and, perhaps inadvertently, revealed that both the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S and Xperia mini pro will not receive the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update.
We have been waiting for Sony to make an official statement on their Jelly Bean upgrade plans and this is the first concrete news we have on the matter. The Xperia arc S was the highest specced 2011 Sony Xperia handset, so if this handset isn’t getting it we can conclude that none of the other Xperia handsets from the 2011 range will get the update either. However, the 2012 Xperia range do look likely to get the update, although timing remains an unknown right now.
Its funny that many of the 2012 Xperia handsets have lower specs than the 2011 models. It sux! anw, we can hope for a developer to port JB for 2011 Xperia lineup. & Cynomod10 is coming with JB
Credit goes to www.xperiablog.net
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/26/official-2011-sony-xperia-handsets-will-not-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/
They have made a mistake
Xperia 2011 handets should have had that minor upgrade to Jelly Bean, especially given the performance issues. Also, it means those handsets are stuck permanently on 2.6 Linux kernel, unless one goes the custom ROMs way. Thankfully, Cyanogenmod devs are supporting Xperia Mini Pro, so I am starting on a quest to root my SK17i.
Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
It's a shame, but it was expected...
Yeah, i also expect 2012 xperias will probably get Jelly Bean update around this time next year (+/- couple months), just before Key Lime Pie comes out
Someguyfromhell said:
Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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but google successfully made JB for nexus S right? it has the same specs as the xperia 2011 lineup sooo sad
Someguyfromhell said:
Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I wonder....
does anyone remember Xperia x10i? the funniest was they came from Donut 1.6 to GingerBread 2.3. they've got 3 official FW update.. and me guess we still have a chance.. Our device is not low range since we have 512 ram inside. and some of Xperia 2012 family also have the same type.
I was expecting this. They won't update 2011 xperia phones to JB. But they will update 2012 xperias. If I buy another phone, it won't be a Sony. Maybe a Nexus 7 but not a Sony. I was very disappointed with the ICS update. Can't imagine a JB for our phones, maybe to slow...
Long live to Gingerbread! xD
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I dont't think Timescape has anything to do with Butter
Anyway, I'm not surprised, but they could change their minds if community presses them enough. As I remember, HTC upgraded Desire to GB even though they said phone was underpowered (for sense bloatware).
I smell some "business politic" here from sony.
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I wasn't really expecting that our 2011 Xperia phones would get 4.1. But I'm going to flash a custom rom when it's available
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who cares about their update...cyanogenmod 10 alpha has rolled out..have to tell its much more faster than GB..wait for fue for days l get the beta version of bug free ...just waiting to get beta cm10.
The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
All hope of custom rom
**** Sony, where's Ericsson when we need him?
pfonck said:
The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
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Correct.
Nicely Explained Brother:good:
Here is example!
1.Bravia Engine wont work without proper supported lib files
2.Same will happen with xLoud
But we can force SONY to give us JB update
If majority of all the customers keep on telling them about the update for 2011 Family, after all customers are the only strength of any COMPANY
What say guys?
Yeah yeah yeah! As what I have expected from SONY!
Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
zerorated24 said:
Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Well... There is
And i agree, Not only the developers here are better, they also keep updating us with Alpha, Nightly and Beta builds all the time, and they're also open for suggestions
I don't know why people keel slagging off Sony as a company?
Personally I buy an SE phone for the hardware (who else makes a tiny phone with a useable hardware keyboard?) while knowing you can optimise the thing to personal taste by modding the firmware and using apps.
As for updates the Mini Pro got 200% of what it's predecessor got (the X10 Mini Pro which only got Eclair).
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very sad news for xperia 2011 series, but im now testing CyanogenMod10 Alpha rom in lww but its have lot of bugs hope it will fix soon
And I was right! 4.1 probably coming after all!
We are actively investigating Android OS upgrades for all devices, but in the meantime, our Ice Cream Sandwich rollout for Xperia S and 2011 Xperia smartphones continues as planned.
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Sony: The whole 2011 Xperia lineup (which got updated to ICS) will not be getting Jelly Bean because Sony "would not be able to guarantee owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand".
source:http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_which_xperia_phones_will_get_jelly_bean-news-4970.php
Bad news but as expected... They can make a firm for Xperia J but not for similar phones like Neo/Arc/S, what a waste of money in software departments...
It's really bad news for us. However, Could we request them for Camera Lib for JB?
No Brain inside Sony software development departament....
Agreed
Callliope said:
No Brain inside Sony software development departament....
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Sony guys are just pulling a cheap stunt..how could the hardware go out of date in one year...they guarantee a good user experience in just a year? What sort of a trickery is this...Anyway...Root and enjoy...that's better than what Sony would offer anyway
Callliope said:
No Brain inside Sony software development departament....
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hahaha, thats why they must put us in there, but sony make good choises in that way, i understand why are they dont update 2011 devices maybe to much trouble etc, see but im always a sony user, they have good products, but sony have less bugs and not so much as by samsubg, htc or lg and more off that phones, so they trully thinking about it
zeus_47 said:
Sony guys are just pulling a cheap stunt..how could the hardware go out of date in one year...they guarantee a good user experience in just a year? What sort of a trickery is this...Anyway...Root and enjoy...that's better than what Sony would offer anyway
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Don't you get it.Sony's main target is to make money.This is a business after all.Besides 2011 models are outdated now,be happy that they gave us a stable ICS fw(unlike lg,samsung even htc who abandoned most of their 2011 mid end lineups in ICS update).Their main target must be improving and selling more 2012 series and upcoming 2013 xperia models and that's what Sony should target on if they ever want to be a giant in smart phone business-not updating every 2011 model !
Man I was really Hopping for JB
Well, When JB comes to any Xperia hopefully our Friendly Developers in Xda will port it in our device ^_^
i'am not surprised at all ! cost saving is essential for a business
anyway i use the official ROM cuz i get the clearbass and some Sony apps
once a JB ROM has those features ported i'll jump straight to it XD
maybe we'll have to wait until Xperia J get some beans
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4930&idPhone2=3734
BIG LOL for the xperia J getting JB, even the cpu and gpu are worst!
dioggo92 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4930&idPhone2=3734
BIG LOL if xperia J get JB, even the cpu and gpu are worst!
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Neo and Neo V is better then Xperia J. LOL
so i dont understand Sony in that opinion to bring JB to Xperia J instead of Neo/Neo V
but indeed who am i
Pandemic said:
Neo and Neo V is better then Xperia J. LOL
so i dont understand Sony in that opinion to bring JB to Xperia J instead of Neo/Neo V
but indeed who am i
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That's why i said that Sony need some brain in the software development departament
It's nothing new...Sony must focus on 2012 and the upcoming 2013 Xperia series. However,i'm happy with stock rom (debloated),few mods and apps from Xperia T and 587 fw. It's very smooth and i always have 150-160 mb of free RAM. I've tried CM10 and PACMAN roms,they're very good,but i hate the fact that phone is rebooting when view videos and also i miss the Bravia Engine,because,let's be honest,without Bravia Engine,the Xperias display sucks when viewing videos (at least for me).But the explanation from Sony why the 2011 series is not getting JB,is hilarious (i mean let's compare the Arc S with Xperia J :laugh. However,i think that next year i'll change my Neo with an Xperia V.
Bad News... Anyways Why you post a new thread when we have THIS Android 4.1 Jelly Bean [DISCUSS THREAD]
georgeiulian89 said:
It's nothing new...Sony must focus on 2012 and the upcoming 2013 Xperia series. However,i'm happy with stock rom (debloated),few mods and apps from Xperia T and 587 fw. It's very smooth and i always have 150-160 mb of free RAM. I've tried CM10 and PACMAN roms,they're very good,but i hate the fact that phone is rebooting when view videos and also i miss the Bravia Engine,because,let's be honest,without Bravia Engine,the Xperias display sucks when viewing videos (at least for me).But the explanation from Sony why the 2011 series is not getting JB,is hilarious (i mean let's compare the Arc S with Xperia J :laugh. However,i think that next year i'll change my Neo with an Xperia V.
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Just160mb of free RAM? Man I get 200MB with Stock
I think They just wanna Attract Customer and sell this Xperia J by Offering JB.
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Bad News... Anyways Why you post a new thread when we have THIS Android 4.1 Jelly Bean [DISCUSS THREAD]
Just160mb of free RAM? Man I get 200MB with Stock
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I didn't removed everything,i've removed just few useless apps (i've kept fb inside xperia). Beside this,i'm not using the phone for gaming,so,for me is more than enough.And you have 200 mb all the time,or just when you turn on the phone? i have 150-160 all the time.However,before debloating i was having just about 90-100 mb lol
As for me I will move to Apple. Not because their updates to all phones, but because the app devs in android will left many of us. Jelly Bean ask for 60 fps, most of the biggest devs, are working to reach this level. Then, after a few months I will be not suprise with I see an app exclusively for JB. One thing in my defense to move to Apple, Chrome. Chrome is a google app, in IOS even a 3GS can get it. But Here at least ICS. Another example? Snapssed. Snapseed bought by Google, wonderfull app, it works in 3GS, 4, 4S and 5, but for us, it needs at least tegra 2. So, I am leaving, it was good and wonderfull time here with everybody, but I got stressed about it. Every year, this same story and I did not learn. Always buying android phones, and now I found me exactly in the same disgusting situation. I will not try to use custom roms, though I know how to put it in my phone, because even the great effort , they are still buggy. I am not arguing, but it is the truth. Many will say that ICS is enough for me, yes, until now is more than enough. But knowing how android is, soon will be not enough.
So friends I will stay here until sell my Xperia Neo and buy an Iphone 4. After that Goodbye.
ThilinaC said:
Don't you get it.Sony's main target is to make money.This is a business after all.Besides 2011 models are outdated now,be happy that they gave us a stable ICS fw(unlike lg,samsung even htc who abandoned most of their 2011 mid end lineups in ICS update).Their main target must be improving and selling more 2012 series and upcoming 2013 xperia models and that's what Sony should target on if they ever want to be a giant in smart phone business-not updating every 2011 model !
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with all due respect but I do not think we should rejoice because both have almost the entire line 2011 with ics, I see the hand of everyone being equal in hardware. but for me it's the least we would have to be done to win customers since bought by the promise of neo v ics, however icebug got a way with ginger. because it gave us the applications "nxt"? if not for the developers .... Samsung has updated the s2 was minimal upgrade at least the arc / s
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georgeiulian89 said:
It's nothing new...Sony must focus on 2012 and the upcoming 2013 Xperia series. However,i'm happy with stock rom (debloated),few mods and apps from Xperia T and 587 fw. It's very smooth and i always have 150-160 mb of free RAM. I've tried CM10 and PACMAN roms,they're very good,but i hate the fact that phone is rebooting when view videos and also i miss the Bravia Engine,because,let's be honest,without Bravia Engine,the Xperias display sucks when viewing videos (at least for me).But the explanation from Sony why the 2011 series is not getting JB,is hilarious (i mean let's compare the Arc S with Xperia J :laugh. However,i think that next year i'll change my Neo with an Xperia V.
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U should try the new pacman ROM...its uber fast...has every concivable thing working and leaves oodles of RAM and free memory...and anyway, as soon as they release the official JB, i guess all the ROMs out there will be able to extract the required libraries and port them over to make the custom ROMs stable...that's what happened with ICS too
jelly bean
y beg sony , lets go with cm 10
So here it is:
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
About Bluetooth:
Android 4.4 support for two new Bluetooth profiles to let apps support a broader range of low-power and media interactions. Bluetooth HID over GATT (HOGP) gives apps a low-latency link with low-power peripheral devices such as mice, joysticks, and keyboards. Bluetooth MAP lets your apps exchange messages with a nearby device, for example an automotive terminal for handsfree use or another mobile device. As an extension to Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3, users can now set absolute volume on the system from their Bluetooth devices.
Platform support for HOGP, MAP, and AVRCP is built on the Bluedroid Bluetooth stack introduced by Google and Broadcom in Android 4.2. Support is available right away on Nexus devices and other Android-compatible devices that offer compatible Bluetooth capabilities.
About RAM managing:
Android 4.4 is designed to run fast, smooth, and responsively on a much broader range of devices than ever before — including on millions of entry-level devices around the world that have as little as 512MB RAM.
KitKat streamlines every major component to reduce memory use and introduces new APIs and tools to help you create innovative, responsive, memory-efficient applications.
OEMs building the next generation of Android devices can take advantage of targeted recommendations and options to run Android 4.4 efficiently, even on low-memory devices. Dalvik JIT code cache tuning, kernel samepage merging (KSM), swap to zRAM, and other optimizations help manage memory. New configuration options let OEMs tune out-of-memory levels for processes, set graphics cache sizes, control memory reclaim, and more.
On youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sONcojECWXs#t=32
Nice copied from the mainpage if we enter:
Www.xda-developers.com
But who say we fet kitkat 4.4 ?
I think we dont get it but i dont understand what is the purpose of this thread, we have already enough kitkat 4.4 threads !!
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Performance is improved by 50% to,it looks they at the end used some code from droidbooster.
I hope we get at least an official update from sony or a port by developers.
AslanFatih said:
I hope we get at least an official update from sony or a port by developers.
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Official update? Lol
sgmini said:
Official update? Lol
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Since 4.4 is way more faster for low-end devices than Jelly Bean, they maybe might consider an update
@Up
I woudln't count on Sony
AslanFatih said:
Since 4.4 is way more faster for low-end devices than Jelly Bean, they maybe might consider an update
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But do you really believe that Sony has not updated their devices because of hardware limitations? Even Xperia 2011 devices had hardware more than capable to run jb and Sony didn't upgrade them
sgmini said:
But do you really believe that Sony has not updated their devices because of hardware limitations? Even Xperia 2011 devices had hardware more than capable to run jb and Sony didn't upgrade them
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Well no it didnt...
Only low res phones were cabable for upgrade and high end like Xperia Arc didnt so they could not just update cheap phones without expensive one.
Anyway they are Sony Ericsson phones now not from Sony so thats another reason.
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I think it's time to write a message to Sony to be so kind and make at least the new drivers that fits to KitKat to help the XU, P, Go XDA devs to make a proper Rom. Fingers crossed.
Even though Galaxy Nexus is fully compatible with Android 4.4, Google is not upgrading it. Xperia P, Go, U and Sola users shouldn't pin hopes at all. Even if Sony were to upgrade older phones, they would rather focus on their flagship like S and ion instead of budget phones like U and Sola..
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lee480 said:
Even though Galaxy Nexus is fully compatible with Android 4.4, Google is not upgrading it. Xperia P, Go, U and Sola users shouldn't pin hopes at all. Even if Sony were to upgrade older phones, they would rather focus on their flagship like S and ion instead of budget phones like U and Sola..
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TI isn't active on the market anymore. That's probably the reason for not supporting Gnex. (why make new drivers and such when you don't release new products...)
lee480 said:
Even though Galaxy Nexus is fully compatible with Android 4.4, Google is not upgrading it. Xperia P, Go, U and Sola users shouldn't pin hopes at all. Even if Sony were to upgrade older phones, they would rather focus on their flagship like S and ion instead of budget phones like U and Sola..
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That is logical, but I would like KitKat on my Sola so much. The ICS made this great phone a crippled device, so if KitKat runs on 512MB devices, then it's a great opportunity to bring the Sola back to life.
Kris194 said:
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I woudln't count on Sony
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@Kris194
Then stop counting..
XDA is here !!
Even if sony wants to update.......novathor is DEAD
I am back. Ignore forum signature 1st line.
is it true that kit kat will feature a white background for the dialer and contacts? please say no.
ortind200 said:
is it true that kit kat will feature a white background for the dialer and contacts? please say no.
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Ok. No.
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AndroidNoob69 said:
Ok. No.
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thank god! if they did, i'd trash android and favor ios for sure. nothing is worse than a white dialer and white contacts... ewww.
Awesome
Will it come for xperia p?
usmanilyas4u said:
Will it come for xperia p?
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From XDA
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Hey guys , does anyone know if sony will bring the new android N for z2 devices ?
McMaddo98 said:
Hey guys , does anyone know if sony will bring the new android N for z2 devices ?
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No
So far, there is no announcement from Sony regarding N availability to their devices.
We need to wait and see..
Maybe No because the support period for the z2 has ended and sony does not guarantee that it will bring further updates for the z2
I'm not so surprised but i hope xda developers can make Custom ROM for Z2
Why everyone in here is so Pessimist,Z2 and Z3 have the same rights to have N,they are twins,literally. How can you say "No" just like that? Sounds like you didn't paid anything for your device,Z2 is pretty capable of run N,let's see if Sony have the dignity to update.
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Why everyone in here is so Pessimist,Z2 and Z3 have the same rights to have N,they are twins,literally. How can you say "No" just like that? Sounds like you didn't paid anything for your device,Z2 is pretty capable of run N,let's see if Sony have the dignity to update.
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Totally agree with you , hope sony doesn't fail me
Xperia Z2 is still the best all around device for me.. Battery wise it's one of the Beast..
... and Sony are still not going to release nougat for the Z2...
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Nope pretty sure mm will be the z2's final big official os update, Soon it'll be a end of life device. Z3 will get N officially but then be in the same boat it'll be it's final big os update.
As the title says should I do it? Xperia Z5 Premium is better than Z2 but the support on Xperia Z5 Pre forums is nearly dead. Abd Xperia Z5 Pre will not get android 8.0 imo becuase no one seems to talk about it on their forums. So should I stay with my Z2?
I don't recommend to do it.. Better buy XZP if u re interested in 4k screens.
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I want to upgrade from z2, any suggest?
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I don't recommend to do it.. Better buy XZP if u re interested in 4k screens.
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I don't mind how my screen looks. If my screen is good enough then I am ok with it. I just wanted to get someone's opinion.
Go with S8/S9 or even the A8. I have lost faith in Sony's camera output, Amoled screen can also be a single reason to switch
No doubt... XZ premium.. True Sony...
Not sure about Z5 premium, but last week, after good few years with it, I upgraded from Z2 (currently Carbon Black ROM) to Z5 dual SIM (stock ROM so far). I like the look of it, how it handles, how fast and responsive it is. Fingerprint reader is an added bonus.
Brand new unlocked Z5 phone is aprox 290USD in my country. I would say you get quite a good spec for your moneys. Most of my friends have their Huawei and Lenovo crap, despite being few years old Z5 still shines here.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers
Buy a Oneplus 5t or wait for the 6. its cheaper and has flagship specs better than the lastest xz
So let me ask this question in a diffrent way then... Should I switch to Z5P if I am getting it for free?
oguzbatu said:
So let me ask this question in a diffrent way then... Should I switch to Z5P if I am getting it for free?
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is this a question to ask. You must take everything for free that is offered in life :laugh:
Hariskh said:
is this a question to ask. You must take everything for free that is offered in life :laugh:
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I mean I am student and my dad bought a new phone for himself and he asked me If I wanted to switch to his Z5P. I am just scared of the support on Z5P xda forum. Because there only a few developers working on that phone but Z2 has many developpers working for it. So if the situation is now clear should I use Z5P as my daily phone or keep using Z2?
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I mean I am student and my dad bought a new phone for himself and he asked me If I wanted to switch to his Z5P. I am just scared of the support on Z5P xda forum. Because there only a few developers working on that phone but Z2 has many developpers working for it. So if the situation is now clear should I use Z5P as my daily phone or keep using Z2?
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If i were you i would keep my Z2 as i dont like sony stock firmware as it runs slow and lags for me, I dont know about the Z5 premium if it lags or not but developer support is a must in my case
The developers support is the problem, although xz premium has less developers than other devices
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If you look at developers support..a phone developer support starts when the company ends support for the device... Looking at Z2, from 2014 to 2016 though there is developers working at various roms, infact for stability most of us preferred staying on stock rom and only few people who unlocked bootloader to experiment with latest android and new features ported from flagship devices... Since Z2 was one hell of a flagship it didn't need much working on..just a latest version rom satisfy but on the same hand stock rom also new and was pretty happy to have all stock features.
And Z2 wasn't laggy or slow and it's smooth as butter all days long. Towards end of 2016 when Sony said end of support, then starts people like us frequently visiting XDA for new roms with latest version, latest security patch. Also more developers starts getting involved to take Z2 to a new height to keep it updated and last long.
Likewise Z5 premium which is not laggy or slow has got nougat and end of Sony support is happening.. So from this year end onwards there will b developers getting involved more to bring new roms nd features to the Z5 premium.
One problem is we don't want to lose Z5 premium 4K features and other stock functions.. For that we need to stay on stock rom. There is custom alternatives for Z5 premium and few mods can enhance stock usability of that phone.
If u ask why z5 premium not that popular is bcos of its snapdragon 810 chipset which was a failure when launched bcos of overheating and battery issues... 810 easily heats up... Sony did made updates to control overheating by downgrading performance. Still losing a single 1% performance is not acceptable for people like us..
So now there's d answer solving all problem, getting that rich premium feel and big 4K with snapdragon 835. And that is XZ premium..
If u don't overuse the phone Z5 premium is ur best friend for life. Otherwise XZ premium if u can ask dad to buy it. Or exchange Z2 but I don't think there is much resale value for Z2 in 2018.
If Current Z2 has not much problem then use it for 1 more year... Snapdragon 801 is performing well above expectation comparing to newer phones on market.. Except latest android....
Still it's ur call...
mahesh911 said:
If you look at developers support..a phone developer support starts when the company ends support for the device... Looking at Z2, from 2014 to 2016 though there is developers working at various roms, infact for stability most of us preferred staying on stock rom and only few people who unlocked bootloader to experiment with latest android and new features ported from flagship devices... Since Z2 was one hell of a flagship it didn't need much working on..just a latest version rom satisfy but on the same hand stock rom also new and was pretty happy to have all stock features.
And Z2 wasn't laggy or slow and it's smooth as butter all days long. Towards end of 2016 when Sony said end of support, then starts people like us frequently visiting XDA for new roms with latest version, latest security patch. Also more developers starts getting involved to take Z2 to a new height to keep it updated and last long.
Likewise Z5 premium which is not laggy or slow has got nougat and end of Sony support is happening.. So from this year end onwards there will b developers getting involved more to bring new roms nd features to the Z5 premium.
One problem is we don't want to lose Z5 premium 4K features and other stock functions.. For that we need to stay on stock rom. There is custom alternatives for Z5 premium and few mods can enhance stock usability of that phone.
If u ask why z5 premium not that popular is bcos of its snapdragon 810 chipset which was a failure when launched bcos of overheating and battery issues... 810 easily heats up... Sony did made updates to control overheating by downgrading performance. Still losing a single 1% performance is not acceptable for people like us..
So now there's d answer solving all problem, getting that rich premium feel and big 4K with snapdragon 835. And that is XZ premium..
If u don't overuse the phone Z5 premium is ur best friend for life. Otherwise XZ premium if u can ask dad to buy it. Or exchange Z2 but I don't think there is much resale value for Z2 in 2018.
If Current Z2 has not much problem then use it for 1 more year... Snapdragon 801 is performing well above expectation comparing to newer phones on market.. Except latest android....
Still it's ur call...
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I know how to XZ premium feels becuase he had bought it for himself asked me if I wanted to switch to his Z5P. So I read what you have written and I will keep my Z2 for now and watch the Z5P forum if it gets any atention by developers. Only thing I can complain about Z2 is it's cameras. Main camera used to be good but after many years some scratches appread on the camera lens so the quality of my pictures dropped a little bit but the main camera is still usable. Frontal camera was bad and still bad so nothing I can do about that. So the Z5P will stay as a backup phone for now and maybe I will switch to it as the time goes on.