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As 2015 creeps up on us what would be a god device to get and have great support on, im currently using my knox bricked note 3 (which is fine since im not going to use the warranty anyway) and basically what im looking for in this device is plenty of support for custom roms just like cm. since we have a great community of great developers, i don't really care about my warranty.
what is you'r next device and why?
and what do you think will come in the future devices besides Android L?
Ive always been an HTC man and watched both live streams to decide my next phone. Im now pretty convinced its going to be the S6 Edge. The one thing thats worrying me is the development side of things with a Samsung own chip. Are they pretty good at supporting developers with documentation and such? I know when HTC went with the Tegra chip in the One X there were lots of problems with S-Off and that sort of thing. Is there likely to be any of that here or is it not a problem?
Exynos is closed source. They are not as open as say Qualcomm. Kernel is GPL so we will have custom stock kernel and ROMs. However... Cm12 and aosp is going to be hard AND buggy.
Custom stock ROM's are better than nothing, especially if you can get that bloatware out of the phone, even with a 128GB option (my GS6 Edge of choice) I still don't want all of the AT&T Bloatware and GB's of wasted space. Hiding is not enough for me.
are we gonna be able to achieve root?
it's all I'm interested in first phase, just want to remove some blootware from sammy, install a real UI and remove ads.
custom rom I can wait little more
Root will probably be the easiest.
Reb0rn said:
Root will probably be the easiest.
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not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
fix-this! said:
not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
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The two biggest US Carriers always rain on our parade, sadly they offer the best coverage otherwise I would go with T-Mo just for the open nature of the devices.
850RPM said:
are we gonna be able to achieve root?
it's all I'm interested in first phase, just want to remove some blootware from sammy, install a real UI and remove ads.
custom rom I can wait little more
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Yeah Chainfire will done it on time.
Does that mean there will be problems with aosp Roms?
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störte said:
Does that mean there will be problems with aosp Roms?
Send by Hyperdrive on one+One
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You will most probably never see a AOSP based ROM for s6 I'm afraid. And if you do, it will be so bug infested that it will take months to make it a daily. Then there is the stability issue when hack building like that...
Just check the note 4 exynos page... One half functioning cm11 (kudos to the developer).
So yeah... Stock ROM, debloated with a custom kernel with kcal or something similar. I'm happy. Maybe even themed to aosp and 360dpi...
Dreams...
That sounds bad . It seems i have to think again then. Maybe if we get Samsung based Roms like echoerom i might be tempted
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störte said:
That sounds bad . It seems i have to think again then. Maybe if we get Samsung based Roms like echoerom i might be tempted
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Yeah well Omega Roms have never failed a galaxy S series before...
Well we will see.
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Root and Knox
Hey guys
One of my colleagues has a Galaxy Alpha and is kinda jealous of me being able to stream to AirPlay-devices etc because my phone is rooted. So I said that I'd help him obtain rood, but soon discovered that the Alpha is not possible to root without trashing Knox.
So... does anybody know if that will also be the case with The S6 Edge? I NEED that phone, but I also NEED root... and I'd like to keep knox...
Also, The GS2 had both overclocking and undervolting options available... do you gus reckon that that will be possible on the S6Edge ?
- Martin
If you NEED root, don't buy it until root is confirmed. No one knows at this point how hard/easy it will be, or how long it will take to achieve.
looks like Chainfire has it already;
at least he posted a link in the original dev forum.
JasonJoel said:
If you NEED root, don't buy it until root is confirmed. No one knows at this point how hard/easy it will be, or how long it will take to achieve.
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Martin5000 said:
Hey guys
One of my colleagues has a Galaxy Alpha and is kinda jealous of me being able to stream to AirPlay-devices etc because my phone is rooted. So I said that I'd help him obtain rood, but soon discovered that the Alpha is not possible to root without trashing Knox.
So... does anybody know if that will also be the case with The S6 Edge? I NEED that phone, but I also NEED root... and I'd like to keep knox...
Also, The GS2 had both overclocking and undervolting options available... do you gus reckon that that will be possible on the S6Edge ?
- Martin
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not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
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He did it already http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/orig-development/cf-auto-root-t3056631
Root already is a good sign!
Would be interesting to know of any developers who are at least interested in getting this phone to work on?
Hey guys,
New to the forum - always been an iphone man, but in recent years I've been more and more unimpressed and annoyed by the apple offerings and so my S6 edge will be delivered in the morning.
My question is should I root it on arrival? Half the reason I made the jump is all the "you can do so much more with android" etc
What is that "so much more"??
I'm fairly tech savvy but obviously never used android so not sure what to expect, but something had to give.
Is adapting the OS easy to do? Things I'm looking to do would be change the themes from operator branded stuff etc at minimum and would like to get the most from my new phone
Also is rooting reversible? Should I want to sell on in the future I'm assuming it's a good idea to revert to original state
Thanks in advance
No need to root, s6 and edge is plenty smooth. "So much more" involves a 3rd party launcher. Personally, I use Nova.
Root is reversible.
FluffyR said:
No need to root, s6 and edge is plenty smooth. "So much more" involves a 3rd party launcher. Personally, I use Nova.
Root is reversible.
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Yes, root is reversible, but tripping Knox by rooting a Samsung device isn't. Tripping Knox will permanently cause you to lose functionality of the Knox app and Samsung Pay. You could also potentially lose your warranty.
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Yes, root is reversible, but tripping Knox by rooting a Samsung device isn't. Tripping Knox will permanently cause you to lose functionality of the Knox app and Samsung Pay. You could also potentially lose your warranty.
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From want I understand... the whole Samsung Pay debacle is just speculation at this point. Everyone swore that you could never use Google Wallet with root but look what happened. They said we would probably never see root on certain carrier branded Samsung devices. Look what happened. It takes time but it's almost always figured out.
To the OP... I would, personally, wait a little bit and just play around with the phone to see what you like and what you would change. If you find that there's a long list of what you would want to tweak then check out as many threads/forums as possible to see if the tweak can be done, what the risks are, and go from there. The phone is great without root but it's so much better with it. Good luck and welcome!
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From want I understand... the whole Samsung Pay debacle is just speculation at this point. Everyone swore that you could never use Google Wallet with root but look what happened. They said we would probably never see root on certain carrier branded Samsung devices. Look what happened. It takes time but it's almost always figured out.
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Installable apps like Google Wallet that check for root are not the same as Samsung Pay which is integrated into the ROMs security framework secured by Knox. Both Chainfire and Sammobile (which have Samsung insiders) have warned about rooting breaking Samsung Pay. It's more than just a little speculation, and it will be extremely difficult to work around if its possible at all.
The bottom line is that if you care about Knox or Samsung Pay, don't root or accept the risk.
Welcome to XDA @Strongey01
Years ago I would have said rooting is a no brainer but now, not so much. The 2 main functions of rooting were deleting bloatware and customizing. This new iteration of touchwiz is much lighter in term of bloat and there is the option to disable apps. Hers's what I would recommend: Get familiar with the os, start off with Nova launcher, pay for prime and explore away. That alone should allow you to customize your launcher beyond your wildest apple dreams. Get familliar with XDA learn the jargon, flash, twrp, odin etc. Explore the general and Q&A threads. There are a few threads about the advantages of root in there. Get familiar, get comfortable then root. If need be.
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The 2 main functions of rooting were deleting bloatware and customizing.
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And ad blocking.
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And ad blocking.
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Ok I stand corrected. Three main functions are deleting bloatware, customizing and ad blocking.
Btw what do you use for ad blocking? I mean without xposed.
Thanks for taking the time to respond guys it's appreciated.
Getting it to run quicker and ad blocking are the main reasons I considered rooting tbh
I definately need to look more in depth at roms etc to see what they really do as like I say I'm completely new to all this, it's like going back to when I built my first website, I just don't have a clue lol
Thanks again guys
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Ok I stand corrected. Three main functions are deleting bloatware, customizing and ad blocking.
Btw what do you use for ad blocking? I mean without xposed.
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Adaway. Follow the link in the post of mine that you quoted.
Strongey01 said:
Hey guys,
New to the forum - always been an iphone man, but in recent years I've been more and more unimpressed and annoyed by the apple offerings and so my S6 edge will be delivered in the morning.
My question is should I root it on arrival? Half the reason I made the jump is all the "you can do so much more with android" etc
What is that "so much more"??
I'm fairly tech savvy but obviously never used android so not sure what to expect, but something had to give.
Is adapting the OS easy to do? Things I'm looking to do would be change the themes from operator branded stuff etc at minimum and would like to get the most from my new phone
Also is rooting reversible? Should I want to sell on in the future I'm assuming it's a good idea to revert to original state
Thanks in advance
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Since you say you're tech savy, I think adapting to Android will be smooth and easy for you.
You don't have to root the phone to enjoy most of the customization options of Android. Google Play Store offers many choices for you to play with: custom launchers, dialers, text apps, phonebooks, notification apps, wallpapers, galleries, ringtone and notification apps, etc.
Rooting then installing a custom recovery will open more customization options. With a custom recovery, such as TWRP, you can install custom ROM's, which can alter your phone completely.
Specifically for the galaxy S6E, you can root in 2 ways - via CF-AUTOROOT or Pingpong Root. I recommend you root with pingpong b/c the Samsung Knox counter will not be tripped and you can try Samsung Pay later.
If you decide to root via pingpong, be sure not to later install a custom kernel or recovery b/c Knox will be tripped.
Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk
Thanks for taking the time to write that. Very informative and helpful
Cheers
As a new user, not allowed to publish links. But search "Proof of Galaxy Note 3 N900V Verizon Lollipop OF1" in google, the first youtube video is it.
It's from Yemen, no details so far.
lol wonderful!! here is the link- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k5k8U43uDs
paolobaba said:
As a new user, not allowed to publish links. But search "Proof of Galaxy Note 3 N900V Verizon Lollipop OF1" in google, the first youtube video is it.
It's from Yemen, no details so far.
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I wouldn't trust ANYTHING from Yemen now. The home of AQAP has nothing I trust.
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androidyemen said:
Yes . Rooting SM-N900V and SM-N910V
By Android Al-Yemen Team
and Droid Yemen
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so why don't you share your achieve with public,are you going to make it paid or what,shall we wait to release,or it's just a showing off video.!!
So good . this is interesting waiting to share it .
I know this team is a smarter team .I trust on it .they build many fantastic all languages stock roms for many models .
Lol .good news .
@androidyemen. Are you guys working on unlocking the boot loader also?
When will idle waiting for more than one year long. Don't want to wait another.
I will make a donation to you even more. Please Upload a file for it!
I really hope this is true. I had 4.4.2 towelroot with xposed up untill a few days ago. It was awesome! I tried to upgrade to the jasmine 6.1 and got stuck in a bootloop . Now im running the stock 5.0 OB6. Because of verizons locked bootloader I thought there was no hope to get root back! (A must have for me) I was about to sell my phone. I really can't wait to see if this is real and works! *fingers crossed!
The level of anticipation is killing me.
n900v
anyone trying this rooot
obaidi2005 said:
It's realy root not jok like "srsroot pro".. our root it's working 100% watch the video.
After we complieted the interface for puplic user.
Please wait and give us more time... We'll releasing it here in a period not exceeding one month.
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well,sounds great,waiting...
When the program is completed. ??? @androidyemen
1 april 2016 ...
Will it support both OF1 and OB6 versions of lollipop?
Do not wait too long to wait To Change the Note 5 to open the form, or download a donation form to load open.
Will this root method support Wanam and xposed framework?
Support Wanam and xposed framework if Root through. @doombuger
obaidi2005 said:
you wrong
We'll releasing it 15 March 2016
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ok will wait to March 15, thank you and include paypal account or something so we can donate.
thanks
so did they release anything yet?
Jesus Christ...
No. They have not.
They said mid-March.
Have a little patience.
I thought I was SOL when I stupidly updated to 5.0 without checking if you could keep root, or if there even was root. This would be awesome.
I was literally just looking to potentially get a new phone, was thinking of ditching samsung altogether for nexus, until I realized they don't use microsd (plus no stylus, I actually use that thing and the stylus app at work).
If I can root again I'll definitely hold on to the phone longer, and I would definitely donate a bit if it's through paypal, as this would save me a lot of money not upgrading for now.
Thanks for the hard work, guys, hope it works out.
If that got your attention then I need your help. If you have a USA NOTE 8 then you currently have limited ROM options. Some will tell you it can't be done, but there is already a solid rom for the S8+ (which also has a locked bootloader).
Basically if you have a TMOBILE, ATT, VERIZON, SPRINT or other US note we can get a sick rom made for US. Free of charge.
What's the catch?
The Dev willing to make this rom needs to know that a few of us (not just me) want and need this rom.
Please just reply to this thread if you own a Note 8 and want a deodexed, Knox removed, sped up, debloated and prerooted rom.
Thanks guys!!!
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If that got your attention then I need your help. If you have a USA NOTE 8 then you currently have no ROM option. Some will tell you it can't be done, but there is already a solid rom for the S8+ (which also has a locked bootloader).
Basically if you have a TMOBILE, ATT, VERIZON, SPRINT or other US note we can get a sick rom made for US. Free of charge.
What's the catch?
The Dev willing to make this rom needs to know that a few of us (not just me) want and need this rom.
Please just reply to this thread if you own a Note 8 and want a deodexed, Knox removed, sped up, debloated and prerooted rom.
Thanks guys!!!
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Aosp with spen functionally. Lol
Should most likely post this in the US carrier forums.
Or maybe the ROM/Development thread?
Honestly, I'm not sure where you would place a post demanding a ROM Developer make a ROM.
More is better!
A sick rom would be great, I miss my Note 1 and all of the rom options I had......
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Love the idea. Would Samsung Pay still work?
borijess said:
Love the idea. Would Samsung Pay still work?
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Absolutely not. SPay will NOT work on a rooted device or a custom ROM.
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Absolutely not. SPay will NOT work on a rooted device or a custom ROM.
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Would this include an attached Gear S3? I don't know why anyone would give up MST functionality and why Samsung is singing it to the moon. It is a real game changer.
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Would this include an attached Gear S3? I don't know why anyone would give up MST functionality and why Samsung is singing it to the moon. It is a real game changer.
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I don't have an S3, but can the Spay function on it independent of the phone? Can you set it up and use it without the phone?
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Absolutely not. SPay will NOT work on a rooted device or a custom ROM.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I don't have an S3, but can the Spay function on it independent of the phone? Can you set it up and use it without the phone?
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You initiate it on the watch and it sets up through the phone, so if you can't even launch it on the phone that would answer the question and mean it doesn't work.
I would be more enamored by the MST upgrade from the Gear S2, but I have had pay since the S6. If I didn't have a phone with MST I would for sure be buying an S3. I run unlocked ROM and tethering and caller ID are enabled. I don't know what else I get with it, but tethering is usually $10 a month.
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You initiate it on the watch and it sets up through the phone, so if you can't even launch it on the phone that would answer the question and mean it doesn't work.
I would be more enamored by the MST upgrade from the Gear S2, but I have had pay since the S6. If I didn't have a phone with MST I would for sure be buying an S3. I run unlocked ROM and tethering and caller ID are enabled. I don't know what else I get with it, but tethering is usually $10 a month.
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If it requires SPay on the phone, then no it won't work. I use SPay all the time, so root and custom ROMs don't interest me too many options available to customise and disable bloatware without root now anyway.
Not Demanding...
I approached a Dev who is capable and maybe willing to make us a rom.
I didn't "Demand" nor should anyone else. (People like to be appreciated, not harassed / bossed around, see Psychology 101)
We MAY get a Rom, it is very likely, but said Dev (who can chime in whenever they like, otherwise will remain anon for now) wants to have:
1.) Interest. Dev doesn't own a Note 8, will be doing this not for his own use. He wants to know that at least 5 or 10 of us will be able to benefit from his time and effort.
2.) Testers. The rom will (hopefully) be based on the U1 Unlocked firmware. Testers with any US model N8 (or Canadian I suppose) can benefit, but we need people from
all carriers willing to flash beta software to their phones, not whine if it doesnt work right away, and give intelligent, meaningful feedback.
3.) Time. This will be a gift / sideproject for the dev. It may take a while. We gotta get people interested, help test, and BE PATIENT!
If you want to be part of this groundbreaking process just keep on keeping on!
EDIT: This rom will most likely have native Tethering built in... no bloat, knox removed, prerooted, deodexed etc
I would love a Rom and be willing to test also!
OptimuSlime said:
I approached a Dev who is capable and maybe willing to make us a rom.
I didn't "Demand" nor should anyone else. (People like to be appreciated, not harassed / bossed around, see Psychology 101)
We MAY get a Rom, it is very likely, but said Dev (who can chime in whenever they like, otherwise will remain anon for now) wants to have:
1.) Interest. Dev doesn't own a Note 8, will be doing this not for his own use. He wants to know that at least 5 or 10 of us will be able to benefit from his time and effort.
2.) Testers. The rom will (hopefully) be based on the U1 Unlocked firmware. Testers with any US model N8 (or Canadian I suppose) can benefit, but we need people from
all carriers willing to flash beta software to their phones, not whine if it doesnt work right away, and give intelligent, meaningful feedback.
3.) Time. This will be a gift / sideproject for the dev. It may take a while. We gotta get people interested, help test, and BE PATIENT!
If you want to be part of this groundbreaking process just keep on keeping on!
EDIT: This rom will most likely have native Tethering built in... no bloat, knox removed, prerooted, deodexed etc
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Shouldn't this be in the ROM/Development section?
Probably! I guess i'll move it lol
This is not a joke?
All of XDA's users of Note 8 (950U too) want of any rom, except official.
This is Not a joke. S8 / S8+ US model has almost the same setup as us, and also the same ****** locked bootloader.
There is a rom (are roms?) for it, and its badass.
I was amazed it wasnt available for the Note 8 US, so I asked and there just hadnt been any interested people asking someone who could handle it.
The guy who has the best chance of making it doesnt OWN a N8 so without someone asking him, it just wasnt on the old todo list.
I'm sure said Dev will get on here at some point as we get more people posting and clarify what he Can/Will/Will try to do. This is in no way guaranteed, but I would bet we have a rom sooner rather than later if we get enough people involved.
The thread will remain here while we gather testers and get a core of people interested.
When Dev decides to post a Link to something we can Download and test, He can start a Dev/Rom thread for that purpose. Keeps the site nice and tidy.
I'm willing to be a tester. Would love to have a new rom on my Sprint Note 8