Hello,
I just got s S6 Edge SM-G925F, It has already android 5.1.1 version with kernel: version: 3.10.61-5447113. I would like to root the device using the pingpong tool without tripping Knox and I read that is not working on android 5.1.1.
My question is: if i downgrade from android 5.1.1 to 5.0.1 is it possible to root the device without tripping knox ?
Another question is : Am I gonna trip knox if after I root the device after I downgrade to android 5.0.1 and install TWRP for example in order to flash another ROM ?
A word of caution, downgrading from 5.1.1 to 5.0.2 is possibly ill-advised, and not for Knox reasons, according to sources .
Apparently the bootloader introduced with the 5.1.1 update takes offence to trying to be downgraded and throws the phone into a bootloop.
however, you are in a privileged position, running the F variant, there is a way to do pretty much whatever you want without worrying about Knox.
see this thread for details.
Mischala said:
A word of caution, downgrading from 5.1.1 to 5.0.2 is possibly ill-advised, and not for Knox reasons, according to sources .
Apparently the bootloader introduced with the 5.1.1 update takes offence to trying to be downgraded and throws the phone into a bootloop.
however, you are in a privileged position, running the F variant, there is a way to do pretty much whatever you want without worrying about Knox.
see this thread for details.
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Thanks a million for the information, I am still not sure if I will root it because I like the fingerprint scanner functionality.
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Im on 5.1.1 G625i LATAM 64gb. Using stock everything, not rooted.
If i got it right there's 2 types of root:
1. Tripping KNOX: No issues but increasing counter.
2. Not tripping KNOX: disables fingerprint and call sound, but there's a fix for call issue.
Is these information correct? Also, is there any link to go on the #1 (tripping knox)? This forum is kinda weird, stuff are not that organized, can't find stuff easily.
think so
Any1 else?
SM-G925I on 5.1.1 stock?
sadly I believe there is only one option for you. which is CF-AutoRoot.
AutoRoot flashes your phone with the root binary and will trip Knox.
The non-Knox tripping option which you alluded to is called PingPongRoot and utilizes an exploit that was patched between 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
There is a third option but it is only available on the T-Mobile variant of the S6E. (SM-G925F I believe).
Anyone please verify
knox and fingerprint
Cruzaders said:
Im on 5.1.1 G625i LATAM 64gb. Using stock everything, not rooted.
If i got it right there's 2 types of root:
1. Tripping KNOX: No issues but increasing counter.
2. Not tripping KNOX: disables fingerprint and call sound, but there's a fix for call issue.
Is these information correct? Also, is there any link to go on the #1 (tripping knox)? This forum is kinda weird, stuff are not that organized, can't find stuff easily.
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join the question. if ill give up knox, fingerprint will work perfectly?
and if ill do root without tripping knox will fingerprint wont work at all forever??
i have OTA updated to 5.1.1
I have bought recently a Galaxy Alpha
Android : 4.4.4
Product code : SM-G850FHSEXEF
Version : G850FXXU2BNK3
I have rooted it with KingRoot
Why ? Because, I am living in France.
And in France, when you buy a product by web, you have 2 weeks during you can return the product if you are not satisfied with it.
And I doesn't want to use Odin due to the eFuse Knox
Nevertheless, I tried to connect by mirrorlink to my new car but it doesn't work.
I have installed Drivelink but no success
The galaxy alpha seems to be mirrorlink certified (soory, I can not post the link)
Due to the date of certification (April 2015) and these information in the following link (sorry I cannot put the link doclot.io/2015/04/29/6-mois-avec-le-samsung-galaxy-alpha/)
It seems that Mirrorlink work only with Lollipop
Do you know if , on Galaxy Alpha, mirrorlink works with KitKat or only lollipop ?
If it works only with Lollipop, I will have to update the android OS.
I have tried by OTA, but it doesn't work because It says that modification have been done
With Kies, It seems possible (I have not tried, I have just seen that a Lollipop update is proposed)
My question is root and lollipop.
How to keep root or to root after upgrade . Do I have to unroot before upgrade ?
Is Kingroot still working ? Or by Odin ?
I want to be root in order to delete somme applications I don't use
Thanks in advance for all your help.
The firmware Lollipop is G850FXXU2COD4 (thanks to Phone Info)
I can't answer your question concerning mirrorlink on lollipop (or even kitkat). I don't know if it works...never used it.
But to upgrade your device to Lollipop you can flash the 5.0.2 XEF factory image (original firmware) with Odin WITHOUT triggering KNOX. Only putting custom recovery to your phone triggers KNOX (that's what happens when you root your Lollipop firmware with Odin by flashing Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root). Kingroot does't work for our device on 5.0.2 Lollipop until now, I don't know if it ever will...
If you unroot your device you also should be able to receive OTA Lollipop update, KIES then also works.
So in the end, what do you recommend ?
* To keep root with kingroot, so updgrade with kies to lollipop and wait for two weeks and root with CF-Autoroot ?
* To use Super- Pro Sume, so upgrade with kies to lollipop and wait for two weeks and root with CF-Autoroot ?
* to unroot, so upgrade with OTA or Kies ?
* other ?
oursgentil said:
So in the end, what do you recommend ?
* To keep root with kingroot, so updgrade with kies to lollipop and wait for two weeks and root with CF-Autoroot ?
* To use Super- Pro Sume, so upgrade with kies to lollipop and wait for two weeks and root with CF-Autoroot ?
* to unroot, so upgrade with OTA or Kies ?
* other ?
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Upgrading to Lollipop will unroot your phone and you cannot gain root unless flashing CF-Auto-Root. If you want to stay rooted you have to stay on KitKat otherwise I would flash 5.0.2 XEF firmware with Odin and CF-Autoroot in two weeks.
oursgentil said:
I have bought recently a Galaxy Alpha
Android : 4.4.4
Product code : SM-G850FHSEXEF
Version : G850FXXU2BNK3
I have rooted it with KingRoot
Why ? Because, I am living in France.
And in France, when you buy a product by web, you have 2 weeks during you can return the product if you are not satisfied with it.
And I doesn't want to use Odin due to the eFuse Knox
Nevertheless, I tried to connect by mirrorlink to my new car but it doesn't work.
I have installed Drivelink but no success
The galaxy alpha seems to be mirrorlink certified (soory, I can not post the link)
Due to the date of certification (April 2015) and these information in the following link (sorry I cannot put the link doclot.io/2015/04/29/6-mois-avec-le-samsung-galaxy-alpha/)
It seems that Mirrorlink work only with Lollipop
Do you know if , on Galaxy Alpha, mirrorlink works with KitKat or only lollipop ?
If it works only with Lollipop, I will have to update the android OS.
I have tried by OTA, but it doesn't work because It says that modification have been done
With Kies, It seems possible (I have not tried, I have just seen that a Lollipop update is proposed)
My question is root and lollipop.
How to keep root or to root after upgrade . Do I have to unroot before upgrade ?
Is Kingroot still working ? Or by Odin ?
I want to be root in order to delete somme applications I don't use
Thanks in advance for all your help.
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It is possible for ODIN. Use CF-Auto-Root.tar
I have switched to Lollipop with Kies.
So with Lollipop you have acces to mirrorlink (and also android auto)
But I have losed my root....
When I check to CF_Autoroot, it shows
samsung SM-G850F sltexx slte universal5430 exynos5 KTU84P.G850FXXU2ANI2 4.4.4
So no mention of lollipop.
Is any way to root a galaxy alpha with Lollipop ?
Thanks
oursgentil said:
I have switched to Lollipop with Kies.
So with Lollipop you have acces to mirrorlink (and also android auto)
But I have losed my root....
When I check to CF_Autoroot, it shows
samsung SM-G850F sltexx slte universal5430 exynos5 KTU84P.G850FXXU2ANI2 4.4.4
So no mention of lollipop.
Is any way to root a galaxy alpha with Lollipop ?
Thanks
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CF_Autoroot also works for Lollipop, here's the link to chainfire's page with the download: https://download.chainfire.eu/529/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-slte-sltexx-smg850f.zip
Hi all.
I dont know if someone already knows this by i'm asking also for myself
I know that there is a way (i.e. ping pong root-tested by me) to root out s6 (edge) without tripping knox only if we are on 5.0.2 with 5.0.2 bootloader. And i know there is a way to flash even without a custom recovery (i.e. flashfire -not confirmed).
So....is it possible to downgrade from totally stock 5.1.1 to 5.0.2?
After that....Is it really possible to flash rom ZIP using flashfire?
In this way the theorically have 5.1.1 rom (with root) with 0x0 counter, right?
Thanks in advance
OsarcotL said:
Hi all.
I dont know if someone already knows this by i'm asking also for myself
I know that there is a way (i.e. ping pong root-tested by me) to root out s6 (edge) without tripping knox only if we are on 5.0.2 with 5.0.2 bootloader. And i know there is a way to flash even without a custom recovery (i.e. flashfire -not confirmed).
So....is it possible to downgrade from totally stock 5.1.1 to 5.0.2?
After that....Is it really possible to flash rom ZIP using flashfire?
In this way the theorically have 5.1.1 rom (with root) with 0x0 counter, right?
Thanks in advance
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I dont think if there is any way to root 5.1.1 without tripping Knox. There are lots of people waiting to root 5.1.1 without tripping knox (including me )
yes i know ON 5.1.1 we cant (at least, for now). by the way, i mean not to root 5.1.1 but to downgrade to the rootable 5.0.2 and AFTER to flash 5.1.1 using flashfire that doesnt use custom recovery.
OsarcotL said:
yes i know ON 5.1.1 we cant (at least, for now). by the way, i mean not to root 5.1.1 but to downgrade to the rootable 5.0.2 and AFTER to flash 5.1.1 using flashfire that doesnt use custom recovery.
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As far as I know, downgrading is still virtually impossible. For example here:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
and especially here:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/general/psa-odin-5-1-1-t3136151
shbenl said:
As far as I know, downgrading is still virtually impossible. For example here:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
and especially here:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/general/psa-odin-5-1-1-t3136151
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Downgrading is virtually impossible at the minute. And rooting 5.1.1 without voiding KNOX is also virtually impossible, unless you are on the F variant.
where there are creative ways to get it done with the leaked 5.0.2 engineering bootloader, but you lose fingerprint scanner functionality.
I have been sitting on the 5.0.2 waiting for news of a 5.1.1 root, but it seems as if there is none forthcoming :<
Hopefully the Marshmallow update bring us some good vulnerabilities.
OsarcotL said:
Hi all.
I dont know if someone already knows this by i'm asking also for myself
I know that there is a way (i.e. ping pong root-tested by me) to root out s6 (edge) without tripping knox only if we are on 5.0.2 with 5.0.2 bootloader. And i know there is a way to flash even without a custom recovery (i.e. flashfire -not confirmed).
So....is it possible to downgrade from totally stock 5.1.1 to 5.0.2?
After that....Is it really possible to flash rom ZIP using flashfire?
In this way the theorically have 5.1.1 rom (with root) with 0x0 counter, right?
Thanks in advance
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I am S6 edge 5.1.1, rooted. Just flash the Uni-kernel （there inclodes root access）. It perfectly works for my device only shows on boot that kernel is not seandroid enforcing. But it works perfectly.
So you're still 0x0 knox?
Well it's been a while since I've checked, but Im having a lot of trouble rooting my phone. Ive figured since the s7 is out, maybe someones done it without tripping knox on my model
I almost dont really care about knox
But id prefer one that doesnt trip it just in case.
Galaxy S6 Edge
5.1.1
G925-T
UVS3DOJC
Can someone help me? Im really trying get NetHunter on my phone
5.1.1 cannot be rooted eithout tripping knox because it requires flashing a kernal that roots the phone and that kernal is housed in the boot partition. Marshmallow can be rooted by the old method of flashing twrp and flashing a supersu flashable zip. So unless Im wrong (may a someone correct me if so) 5.1.1 cannot be rooted without tripping knox. Idk if flashing twrp will trip on marshmallow so do some research on that. If it doesnt there you go all you have to do is wait for it then. If not then its not possible as far as i know. I cant tell you MM wise because i tripped my knox on L5.1.1
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I am currently running the OS below.
T-Mobile SG5 Model SM-900T
Android 4.4.2
Baseband: G900TUVU1CNK2
My knox is not tripped and the only apps I really use ROOT for is.
Titanium Backup Pro
Busy Box
Lucky Patcher (to remove annoying ads)
Is it possible to update this to a newer OS and still have ROOT without tripping KNOX?
molitar said:
I am currently running the OS below.
T-Mobile SG5 Model SM-900T
Android 4.4.2
Baseband: G900TUVU1CNK2
My knox is not tripped and the only apps I really use ROOT for is.
Titanium Backup Pro
Busy Box
Lucky Patcher (to remove annoying ads)
Is it possible to update this to a newer OS and still have ROOT without tripping KNOX?
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No, all the ways of rooting beyond KitKit will cause Knox to trip on a Samsung phone.
The easiest way to update and acquire root, would be to flash a new version, that is already rooted. There are several in the Android Development subforum here. GP2 is the most recent for this phone.
Rob