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Hello;
I recently purchased a 512mb version of the G9 on sale thinking it would be 1gb; turns out after installing ICS that it's still 512mb. Now I'm trying to decide whether I should keep it or return it and spend $60 more on a 1gb version.
Has anyone used both the 512mb and 1gb and noticed a difference? Should I keep the 512mb or spend more money to upgrade?
If you have any recommendations please let me know; thanks!
I had bought the 80 Hdd before with 512 mb. After a fault Archos replaced it and to my surprise it had 1.5 ghz but still with 512 mb. So I got a bump in cpu modele. When the 1gig ram came out I ordered and returned a 101 hdd with 1 gig ram for the same prices I had paid my G9 80 before.... I had to decid which one I keep...I liked the G9 80 better even with the 512 mb.
Personally I did not see anything better on the 1gig of ram. May it's the way I use the tablet. But for me I think 512 Ram is fine. (it's not the 250 from gen8)...
no big difference...
i have the twice
I find that applications persist in the background better, for example, the web browser doesn't have to reload tabs when returning to it so often. The launcher never has to reload when doing something memory intensive.
Other than this there is no real difference (speed etc.)
theguy said:
I find that applications persist in the background better, for example, the web browser doesn't have to reload tabs when returning to it so often. The launcher never has to reload when doing something memory intensive.
Other than this there is no real difference (speed etc.)
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I only have a 1.2Ghz model but if as a example were to compare a Galaxy Nexus to a Nexus S the background performance is huge!
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I have a memory manager (for manually freeing up old apps) on my home page displaying how much free ram is available and on average it shows about 350MB free. That tells me that the quite a large portion of the 1GB ram is indeed being used and also that the 512MB would most definitely need to swap more often. How that translates to performance however is another question as depending on the apps used, swapping might not be noticeable at all. Only having the two side by side with duplicate setups and performing the exact same actions would be definitive, but hazarding a guess I would say the 1GB should outperform the 512MB in most cases where many apps are opened. Again, that might or might not be a negligible difference..
As we all know, the international sgs3 variant has a quad core processor and 1gb of RAM. Some variants however have 2gb ram. I really can't understand why Samsung didn't just make 2gb`s the standard in the first place.
I understand that currently its enough but it doesn't seem `future proof`. How plausible would adding another gb of ram be? Would it be possible?
I have a feeling the process would be extremely complicated and getting hold of the actual ram chip would be quite a mission. Still I think it would be interesting to know if and how this might be possible.
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How future proof do you want it? Its going to be a few years before 2GB of RAM is the norm and a few more before that is the requirement... If ever.
I wish everyone would chill out about RAM. 1GB is not only enough. It is more than enough and will be for as long as we all have the device.
There is no current need and no forseeable need for more RAM. Its not like windows where if you keep throwing RAM at it, it gets faster and faster.
mits101 said:
As we all know, the international sgs3 variant has a quad core processor and 1gb of RAM. Some variants however have 2gb ram. I really can't understand why Samsung didn't just make 2gb`s the standard in the first place.
I understand that currently its enough but it doesn't seem `future proof`. How plausible would adding another gb of ram be? Would it be possible?
I have a feeling the process would be extremely complicated and getting hold of the actual ram chip would be quite a mission. Still I think it would be interesting to know if and how this might be possible.
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STOP WITH THE RAM QUESTIONS. You have NOTHING to worry about. The US version has 2GB of RAM because it physically NEEDS it. The international version does NOT.
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1gb is more than enough for ICS and probably Jellybean so nothing to worry about, and anyway Samsung don't like to update phones more than 18 months old so future proofing's a bit of a moot point.
Personally I'm a bit worried about the phone only having 3GB of RAM. I am a power user and play games pretty often too. I constantly switch from Chrome, Line messenger, whatsapp, facebook, skype, clash of clans, and a few other games. I switch from literally all these apps pretty much every time I pickup my phone to use.
I had the S6 Edge before and the downtime all adds up because of the crappy memory management. Even my Xiao mi 3 with 2gb RAM handles multitasking literally twice as good, but its not good enough for what I do on my phone.
Does anyone out there have a similar habit to me with 3GB/4GB of RAM device that can comment? Would love to hear from the experts here that has similar usage as me!
Is 3GB enough? How much do you have spare after loading all your daily apps?
I don't worry.as Nexus 5X has only 2g ram.
Dont worry about the 3GB RAM it will be sufficient for your needs. And dont based it on SGS6 because RAM management on that phone is veerry aggressive and I actually sold my S6 for MXPE 2015 because of that issue.
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I'm not necessarily worried per se but I would have liked for it to have 4GB of RAM only for future proofing.
I'm buying this phone for my dad. Unlike me, he doesn't like to change his phone for at least 2- 3 years, he's been using his Lumia for 3-4 I believe and for someone like that, I think it is worth it to get something that can last a while.
Not worried at all. I'm hesitant to get my wife the 5x because of only having 2gb though.
Too many screen redraws on my xperia devices but far less on a nexus device with 2gb ram. Less bloatware on Nexus devices meaning more free ram.
Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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Nope 3gb is more then enough
It's plenty.
Nexus is Pure Android, So no worries at all
The oneplus two I had almost never went more than 2.4gb in usage.
3gb lpddr4 should be plenty.
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Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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that was well over ten years a go and technology moves fast
more typos!
More to the point in, 5 years:
N1 512MB LPDDR;
NS 512MB LPDDR;
GN 1GB LPDDR2;
N4 2GB LPDDR2;
N5 2GB LPDDR3;
N6 3GB LPDDR3;
N5X 2GB LPDDR3;
N6P 3GB LPDDR4.
500% increase in RAM and each new LPDDR generation doubles fetch size and transfer speed.
At first I was slightly concerned about the 6p only having 3GB. But after finding out it utilizes LPDDR4 RAM, I'm not too concerned anymore. The extra bandwidth of LPDDR4 will do wonders for the 2560 x 1440 display.
LPDDR4 Specifications: http://www.androidauthority.com/lpddr4-everything-need-know-599759/
I worry all the time.... Just 3gig.... I need like 128gig of ram.... F Google....
Can you recognize my sarcasm over here.... It's a nexus even my nexus5 can multitask better than any phone out there
people, I can play crysis 3 with 4gb on my pc at extreme.
3gb DDR4 is more than enough for a smartphone. look at the iphone (1gb)
i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
ocp15k said:
i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
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Yeah ddr4 is only faster.
yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
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yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
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More RAM will be used up as video RAM for the QHD, yeah. To be honest, as bad as the Samsung phones are for memory, they're not unusable and work ok. When you think of all the crap the 6P won't have running in the background compared to the Sammys, I really think it'll work well.
Hello,
I'm asking if it is worth buying the 3gb ram version over the 2gb ram since it costs about 1000 EGP more for the 3gb ram and it comes without warranty.
The 2gb model costs 3400 EGP with 1 year warranty
The 3gb model costs 4300 EGP without warranty
Yes bro, go with 3 GB ram, 2 gb is not sufficient
biso46 said:
Hello,
I'm asking if it is worth buying the 3gb ram version over the 2gb ram since it costs about 1000 EGP more for the 3gb ram and it comes without warranty.
The 2gb model costs 3400 EGP with 1 year warranty
The 3gb model costs 4300 EGP without warranty
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Unequivocally yes.
You get twice the storage on top of 1 gb more ram. Easily worth the extra money. You can recover a hard bricked phone yourself (I have done it twice) but you need very steady hands and some knowledge of small electronics repair. So basically, be careful and always follow directions carefully so you don't hard brick your phone.
I have the 2gb, the ram is somehow enough but the internal storage isn't... You cannot move the apps to sd so if you install large apps go to the 3gb ram.
I have 2GB model and it is enough...it gives even better score in RAM then 3GB version...but I would like more storage but its enough for me, cuz I keep media and everything on microsd...and you are still left with about 9GB of apps you can install...
Sisqo said:
I have the 2gb, the ram is somehow enough but the internal storage isn't... You cannot move the apps to sd so if you install large apps go to the 3gb ram.
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Denis:) said:
I have 2GB model and it is enough...it gives even better score in RAM then 3GB version...but I would like more storage but its enough for me, cuz I keep media and everything on microsd...and you are still left with about 9GB of apps you can install...
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How about gaming performance? Is it quite smooth as on the 3GB version or you face any lag? That what would matter in addition to the storage since I'll root my phone and could force move the apps with these App2SD applications.
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How about gaming performance? Is it quite smooth as on the 3GB version or you face any lag? That what would matter in addition to the storage since I'll root my phone and could force move the apps with these App2SD applications.
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Nope, it is same performance as on 3GB...
You can install apps on microsd, but performance in this apps will be reduced... So im not using that.
So the gaming performance? It's same.
But still, I'd prefer to buy 32 gb version. You know, More games = more storage.
I have the 3GB and easily use 2gb of ram.. so... theres that...
Absolutely...huge difference.
also price difference is very less
Take that 3gb, I regret to have 2gb of RAM as I know this phone consumes alot of RAM resources than my previous phone Zenfone 5.
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It depends on how you use your phone, like what apps you will install, whether you clear background apps frequently... If you have a phone with 2 GB RAM and 64-bit SoC, you can have a idea on how performance on 2 GB variant is.
I just got my s23 ultra. The vram was turned on to 8gb. Is that needed? Should I keep it going? I have the 512gb model with 12gb of ram already.
If you need that much ram you can use it but be aware that trying to use an ssd as ram, even a top spec ssd isn't anywhere near as fast as slow ra
fil.lujan said:
I just got my s23 ultra. The vram was turned on to 8gb. Is that needed? Should I keep it going? I have the 512gb model with 12gb of ram already.
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I also own an S23 Ultra. Where did you find the VRAM info?
Mind that VRAM stands for Virtual RAM and should be the RAM available for your GPU, not the overall RAM of your device.
elementXI said:
I also own an S23 Ultra. Where did you find the VRAM info?
Mind that VRAM stands for Virtual RAM and should be the RAM available for your GPU, not the overall RAM of your device.
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That's not right. The soc for these devices share RAM between cpu and gpu. There is no dedicated gpu RAM. Vram is simply virtual RAM on your ssd that is super slow compared to your actual ram
He means RAM plus...
Thanks all, I disabled it, I just wasn't sure why it was on by default. 12Gb will be plenty for me.
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That's not right. The soc for these devices share RAM between cpu and gpu. There is no dedicated gpu RAM. Vram is simply virtual RAM on your ssd that is super slow compared to your actual ram
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Never said it was dedicated to the GPU. I said it was "the RAM available for your GPU".
Thanks, @aureum.
In that case, it means that a defined amount the device's storage, which by default comes at 8GB, of "RAM Plus" which by default is 8GB, in support of the actual RAM.
@fil.lujan I suggest you don't disable the RAM Plus option. Leave it on at 8GB. It just takes 8GB from your storage and should be pretty unsignificant on the 512GB variant.
RAM plus is working as swap on windows, when you reach max RAM it should goes to RAM plus... However i read that ram plus is not for actual processing, only hibernate the apps for faster reloading them to RAM when needed, Some users od 22u point that disabling ram plus speed up the device I try it on my 23u and did not see any improvement when disabled so i left it at 8GB.
aureum said:
Some users od 22u point that disabling ram plus speed up the device I try it on my 23u and did not see any improvement when disabled so i left it at 8GB.
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Considering how the SoC on this smartphone is already a beast, I don't see how it would be that impactful (in term of raw numbers).
But 12GB RAM is already enough for most users, topping to 12+8GB seems a little overkill.
UFS 4.0 is equivlant to Lpddr4 speed but allitle slower
And Ram plus aka V Ram will only be used when you have allot of apps open in back ground to prevent app restarts so it doesn't need to be as fast as the actual ram
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@fil.lujan I suggest you don't disable the RAM Plus option. Leave it on at 8GB. It just takes 8GB from your storage and should be pretty unsignificant on the 512GB variant.
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It's worth shutting it off and seeing if it has any performance impact. Previous phones all suffered noticeable penalties and honestly with 12GB, it's not needed.
EtherealRemnant said:
It's worth shutting it off and seeing if it has any performance impact. Previous phones all suffered noticeable penalties and honestly with 12GB, it's not needed.
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Well, I'd agree with you for older devices. Thought, the S23 Ultra is packed with high-performance UFS 4.0 storage. At worst, there would be the slightest performance impact (if none at all). Hence, I believe this time the pros are higher than the cons when keeping RAM Plus active, from my perspective.