I am having no luck downgrading the software on my verizon S4 to OC1 from OF1.
I used odin 3.09 and odin 3.10.16 with it failing.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
-D
That's because once the i545 is updated to OC1 there is no way to downgrade.
Usually the Odin flash will fail with a message similar to :
Fail (Auth.)
spagman72 said:
That's because once the i545 is updated to OC1 there is no way to downgrade.
Usually the Odin flash will fail with a message similar to :
Fail (Auth.)
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so thats a solid no to downgrade even from the micro update
To the best of my knowledge the i545 is very unfriendly when it comes to downgrading bootloaders /firmware.
The only S4 model that I know of that is downgrade friendly is the i337.. Infact I know from experience that it can be downgraded from lollipop back to kitkat with a simple odin flash.
The only way a microupdate can be Downgraded is if the bootloaders... Which include TZ (trusted zone) are practically the same and only system files change... But this is rare with Verizon phones specially after Knox.
Two things... There are threats of Verizon s4 that warn about update OTA, no way to return previous bootloader my friend... muniz roms are the only capable of cuz they don't update bootloader I did recently downgrade from of1 to nc5 with no problems.... S4 must be deactive OTA, if I could I would return to MDK bootloader unfortunately when I receive this was already in NK bootloader.... That's Verizon....
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spagman72 said:
To the best of my knowledge the i545 is very unfriendly when it comes to downgrading bootloaders /firmware.
The only S4 model that I know of that is downgrade friendly is the i337.. Infact I know from experience that it can be downgraded from lollipop back to kitkat with a simple odin flash.
The only way a microupdate can be Downgraded is if the bootloaders... Which include TZ (trusted zone) are practically the same and only system files change... But this is rare with Verizon phones specially after Knox.
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The I545 can be downgrading just like any other model but only to where you rooted it at. So me MDK. I can go all the way back to when phone was purchased. Nk1 they would be able to revert back to Nk1 and so on. If you took the OTA then your bootloader got upgraded. stang5litre 5.0 Edition doesn't upgrade your bootloader.
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EdrickMG said:
Two things... There are threats of Verizon s4 that warn about update OTA, no way to return previous bootloader my friend... Muniz roms are the only capable of cuz they don't update bootloader I did recently downgrade from of1 to nc5 with no problems.... S4 must be deactive OTA, if I could I would return to MDK bootloader unfortunately when I receive this was already in NK bootloader.... That's Verizon....
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Incorrect. My rom doesn't upgrade your bootloader. Read comment I left above. Where ever you are rooted at is where you can go back 2. Plan and simple. My ROM doesn't update the bootloader.
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stang5litre said:
The I545 can be downgrading just like any other model but only to where you rooted it at. So me MDK. I can go all the way back to when phone was purchased. Nk1 they would be able to revert back to Nk1 and so on. If you took the OTA then your bootloader good upgraded. stang5litre 5.0 Edition doesn't upgrade your bootloader.
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Incorrect. My rom doesn't upgrade your bootloader. Read comment I left above. Where ever you are rooted at is where you can go back 2. Plan and simple. My ROM doesn't update the bootloader.
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Sorry my bad stang5litre I said only Muniz roms bad statement all ROMS in Xda are capable of..downgrade,
Stock ones came from verizon directly not... Several people had the problem when they jump from kitkat to lollipop even though they were rooted took the one from Verizon OTA and they can't written to previous bootloader, if he took upgrade from Verizon no way turn back... As far as I know if he installed from xda Rom yes incluide yours rom that is really nice indeed
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darkw1sh said:
I am having no luck downgrading the software on my verizon S4 to OC1 from OF1.
I used odin 3.09 and odin 3.10.16 with it failing.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
-D
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I'm afraid there is nothing you can do if you took the update. As far as I know it patches all root methods. So If your on OF1 from Ota by Verizon they upgraded your bootloader and now your stuck with stock verizon without Root. [emoji45]
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To down grade to previous versions........ the only way that can be done is if you have the OC1 .pit file (mapping file) and the other files ...... without the .pit file it cannot map to a previous version.
In other words......... without the .pit file it cannot be done ........ Sorry
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stang5litre said:
I'm afraid there is nothing you can do if you took the update. As far as I know it patches all root methods. So If your on OF1 from Ota by Verizon they upgraded your bootloader and now your stuck with stock verizon without Root. [emoji45]
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You could flash the 0c1 kernal in odin and the use mobilego to root.
However i cannot apply any custom roms without soft brick/bootloop. Still trying to get xposed working...
tegra_rose said:
You could flash the 0c1 kernal in odin and the use mobilego to root.
However i cannot apply any custom roms without soft brick/bootloop. Still trying to get xposed working...
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I posted this before root was achieved.
OF1 can now flash
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I rooted my Verison Galaxy S4 before they updated the bootloader to ME7. If I wanted to unroot my phone can I follow the ME7 unroot instructions to update to Android 4.3 bypassing the update, or do I have to go back to what my phone was originally prior to updating?
thunderclap82 said:
I rooted my Verison Galaxy S4 before they updated the bootloader to ME7. If I wanted to unroot my phone can I follow the ME7 unroot instructions to update to Android 4.3 bypassing the update, or do I have to go back to what my phone was originally prior to updating?
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Just. Don't. Do. It.
You have MDK Lokied bootloader apparently. If you take Verizon update they will ruin that! Wait for developers to incorporate the best 4.3 features in custom roms.
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I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section
Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?
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thrgk said:
Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?
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Surge's method referenced in the previous post retains root.
thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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no boot loader unlock exist, for the locked bootloader safestrap must be used
you need to read the following thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?
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thrgk said:
If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?
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my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.
joshm.1219 said:
A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section
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There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.
jake.99x3 said:
There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.
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Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever be truly usable. Kexec support is needed
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decaturbob said:
my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.
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Not precisely. You can be rooted but otherwise stock and manage to take the OTA successfully. That will leave you unrooted.
My phone was rooted factory stock and would have taken the OTA successfully if not for a single modified file left behind by an older version of SuperSU and a file modified by Safestrap. If Safestrap wasn't active and without that old SuperSU thing it would have taken the OTA.
From a practical standpoint, you're right. Unless you're stock, there's a good chance the OTA will fail to start. And keep nagging you each time it fails.
thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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If you are on MK2, than you have a locked bootloader, which as of today is STILL UNLOCKABLE!!!!
Therefore, there is no AOSP ROMS avaiable for us, SafeSTrap users, which means that we can only flash TW based ROMS!
there are tons of ROMs for us, SS users, and the first 3 ROMs that pop into my mind which are the best of the best for us i337 AT&T users with MK2 locked bootloaders is these:
SHOstock-i v7.0 ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
Deadly Venom v3.0.2 ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447482
HyperDrive ==> Android 4.3 RLS15 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2520418
HyperDrive ==> KitKat 4.4.2 RLS17 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301724
And here is an INDEX for ALL ROMS for the Galaxy S4, 4.3 and 4.4.2 ...this here is the best forum there is for our S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
If I helped you, please hit THANKS, it's not that hard...
I have spoke of surge's upgrade/downgrade methods before. He is a senior member here on xda. The other method I know of, as far as upgrade/downgrade, is giglies. Giglies method came out after. It's fewer steps but the documentation could use an overhaul. If you see a post around the s4 forums with surge's name on it, I bet a lot of people are going to see what he has to say about it
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with towel root now available for use on NC5 phones, the need to upgrade/downgrade really is no longer a driving force.
Hi, my wife has my old rooted S4 on MK2. It has been debloated so I know the update will fail. I don't want to do safestrap. Do I need to Odin back to a clean MK2 and then accept updates, or could I Odin the stock Kit Kat factory image?
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If you don't care about retaining mk2 bootloader odin full wipe NC5 and use towel root for root access...
sent via safestrap 3.72 and echo v24!!
decaturbob said:
If you don't care about retaining mk2 bootloader odin full wipe NC5 and use towel root for root access...
sent via safestrap 3.72 and echo v24!!
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It's my wife's, so not using bootstrap, so what am I losing, besides some potential that they ever crack the bootloader?
fillyo said:
It's my wife's, so not using bootstrap, so what am I losing, besides some potential that they ever crack the bootloader?
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nothing besides that really, although battery life has suffered with the update
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can someone point me in the right direction for the odin information. I have accepted the OTA and i messed it up. I just want to get back to 100% stock NC5.
Jwezesa said:
can someone point me in the right direction for the odin information. I have accepted the OTA and i messed it up. I just want to get back to 100% stock NC5.
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links to everything you need to understand on S4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
I want to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 and only want root access to run Titanium Backup. I can either take the OTA upgrade ot odin the 4.4.3 file then just run towelroot. Am I mising anything?
Thanks
Verizon Galaxy S4.
fillyo said:
Hi, my wife has my old rooted S4 on MK2. It has been debloated so I know the update will fail. I don't want to do safestrap. Do I need to Odin back to a clean MK2 and then accept updates, or could I Odin the stock Kit Kat factory image?
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here ya go- u should be good!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720163
jrv331 said:
I want to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 and only want root access to run Titanium Backup. I can either take the OTA upgrade ot odin the 4.4.3 file then just run towelroot. Am I mising anything?
Thanks
Verizon Galaxy S4.
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The only thing your missing is 4.4.3 since Verizon hasn't even announced that upgrade yet...
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decaturbob said:
If you don't care about retaining mk2 bootloader odin full wipe NC5 and use towel root for root access...
sent via safestrap 3.72 and echo v24!!
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I am currently rooted on MJ7 and do not care if I lose everything in the upgrading process.
Is there a post somewhere on upgrading straight to NC5? Do I just do a normal odin flash of the NC5 update then use towel to root?
Or could I just take the OTA then use towel root? Or to do that do I need to properly unroot, take OTA, then root NC5 with towel?
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I am assuming I could just follow this to do a full wipe to NC5? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
porky101 said:
I am currently rooted on MJ7 and do not care if I lose everything in the upgrading process.
Is there a post somewhere on upgrading straight to NC5? Do I just do a normal odin flash of the NC5 update then use towel to root?
Or could I just take the OTA then use towel root? Or to do that do I need to properly unroot, take OTA, then root NC5 with towel?
*EDIT*
I am assuming I could just follow this to do a full wipe to NC5? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
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yes that is one way of doing it
Probably a noob question, but if you want root for titanium, wifi tether, xposed mods, etc...
Why is it so important to stay on MK2.
There's a few threads on downgrading from NC5 to MK2, and back up to keep the MK2 bootloader.
MK2 is not MDK, you can't run a custom recovery.
So what's so bad about taking the NC5 OTA and then just rooting? You can still run SS? Can yoi not flash a SS compatible ROM on NC5s bootloader?
Just trying to understand the difference. I know the benefit to MDK, just not anything else.
ymDroid said:
Probably a noob question, but if you want root for titanium, wifi tether, xposed mods, etc...
Why is it so important to stay on MK2.
There's a few threads on downgrading from NC5 to MK2, and back up to keep the MK2 bootloader.
MK2 is not MDK, you can't run a custom recovery.
So what's so bad about taking the NC5 OTA and then just rooting? You can still run SS? Can yoi not flash a SS compatible ROM on NC5s bootloader?
Just trying to understand the difference. I know the benefit to MDK, just not anything else.
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People hold out hope that someone may unlock the mk2 bootloader. To me it doesn't matter I'm on the NC2/NC5 bootloader myself.
Surge1223 said:
People hold out hope that someone may unlock the mk2 bootloader. To me it doesn't matter I'm on the NC2/NC5 bootloader myself.
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Are we pretty close to unlocking MK2? Should I hold out?
I used your method to upgrade to NC5, but the audio over wifi glitch has me on the verge of taking the OTA.
Im not really seeing any other way of fixing this issue except going stock?
Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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Batttie said:
Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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It really sucked having to do that. It was my first root ever and I soft bricked my phone three times because I knew less than nothing about rooting and whatnot. Three weeks later: Towelroot. Now its a party lol.
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Batttie said:
Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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But there are more devs working for a bootloader exploit for the S5, than the S4.
And the S5, so if there is an exploit on the S5, it will probably transfer over to the S4 at the NC5 level since that firmware is on par with the S4s NC5.
So isn't it better to go to full NC5?
The phone took update and I jus got it working earlier. I had to Odin back to NC5 cause wiped whole phone lol. Not familiar with NG6 so needing a point in direction. Thanks in advance
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Your best best is to downgrade to NC5 or upgrade to OC1 but be cautious once u take the update to OC1 android 5.0.1 THERE IS NO GOING BACK DOWN!!!!! but OC1 has root wit kingroot and NC5 wit toowelroot but NC6 not that I know off. I used to have the rom the rooted version of NC6 because I was capturing the OTA updates. So anyways u can choose if to downgrade to NC5 or update ur phone to OC1 to lollipop 5.0.1 to gain root back.