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This has been brought up in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486926
I figured it would be time to start a new thread on it to discuss work-arounds.
Is it possible to revert to .11? I assume we would need to re-root.
EDIT* Since I didn't mention it, I am unable to OTA on 11.1. I live in Colorado which people from the other thread have stated they are able to update from.
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This has been brought up in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486926
I figured it would be time to start a new thread on it to discuss work-arounds.
Is it possible to revert to .11? I assume we would need to re-root.
EDIT* Since I didn't mention it, I am unable to OTA on 11.1. I live in Colorado which people from the other thread have stated they are able to update from.
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No, you can't go back until we have working recoveries and proper backups can be made. Only choice is to wait for manual version of .13, install it (should be up in 1-3 days), and likely after that the Kernel numbers will be in the right line for OTA's again
*EDIT: I too am on 11.1, just have to wait either for ASUS to update the firmware downloads on their website or for one of our fellow xda'ers to capture the update and upload it for us
Don't you love those Asus emails telling you to flash things without any indication of consequences? That's why I didn't flash the one I was pmed.
yep this kinda blows. went 11.1 because I considered rooting, but didnt.
Just didnt see any benefit for me at this point since there were no ROMS, boot ubnlock etc.
Oh well, hopefully it will be up on Asus soon.
Also hopefully when we do manually update to .13 any future OTA's will be available to us?
Seems to be a firmware update today just got it
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buxtahuda said:
No, you can't go back until we have working recoveries and proper backups can be made. Only choice is to wait for manual version of .13, install it (should be up in 1-3 days), and likely after that the Kernel numbers will be in the right line for OTA's again
*EDIT: I too am on 11.1, just have to wait either for ASUS to update the firmware downloads on their website or for one of our fellow xda'ers to capture the update and upload it for us
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So it sounds like we are guaranteed to lose root then?
GreginNH said:
yep this kinda blows. went 11.1 because I considered rooting, but didnt.
Just didnt see any benefit for me at this point since there were no ROMS, boot ubnlock etc.
Oh well, hopefully it will be up on Asus soon.
Also hopefully when we do manually update to .13 any future OTA's will be available to us?
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The biggest thing for rooting to me was being able to install/use an ad-block program.
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So it sounds like we are guaranteed to lose root then?
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Yeah but should be no issue for those who made sure to use voodoo OTA rootkeeeper. The update breaks root but I easily restored it. VOODOO OTA ROOTKEEPER IS A MUST HAVE NOW!
Been working great for me last few updates. Saves me Hassell of having to worry about manually rooting sgain
Does it not work downloading and flashing 9.4.2.11 from asus' site and aquiring the .13 OTA that way?
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Absolutely!
I don't know how OTA's work, but it seems that the 11.1 just isn't in their timeline and so the servers aren't pushing to those devices. If ASUS could rectify this and somehow make it available, your OTA Rootkeeper will work.
Most likely, will have to manually update to .13 and then re-root for (third for me) second time. Don't worry, Viper and everyone will update quickly I'm sure.
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demandarin said:
Yeah but should be no issue for those who made sure to use voodoo OTA rootkeeeper. The update breaks root but I easily restored it. VOODOO OTA ROOTKEEPER IS A MUST HAVE NOW!
Been working great for me last few updates. Saves me Hassell of having to worry about manually rooting sgain
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No, 'darin. It's OTA Rootkeeper. Not just Rootkeeper.
Manual updates wipe out your /system/ and so your subackup folder and any others relating to Rootkeeper's backup get removed.
*EDIT: Also, sorry, didn't meant to sound like a d'bag lol just trying to make sure some poor soul doesn't do a manual update thinking rootkeeper will work for them
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Absolutely!
I don't know how OTA's work, but it seems that the 11.1 just isn't in their timeline and so the servers aren't pushing to those devices. If ASUS could rectify this and somehow make it available, your OTA Rootkeeper will work.
Most likely, will have to manually update to .13 and then re-root for (third for me) second time. Don't worry, Viper and everyone will update quickly I'm sure.
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No, 'darin. It's OTA Rootkeeper. Not just Rootkeeper.
Manual updates wipe out your /system/ and so your subackup folder and any others relating to Rootkeeper's backup get removed.
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Good point..lmfao wasn't really thinkn of that. Exit stage right. Lol
demandarin said:
Yeah but should be no issue for those who made sure to use voodoo OTA rootkeeeper. The update breaks root but I easily restored it. VOODOO OTA ROOTKEEPER IS A MUST HAVE NOW!
Been working great for me last few updates. Saves me Hassell of having to worry about manually rooting sgain
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AFAIK when you manually install "OTA" root keeper does not work, and seems like others are confirming this.
I just hope someone is able to quickly find another root exploit as fast as they did for .11.
Hopefully they'll rectify this in the next couple of days, don't want to be without root again .
On a different note, did anyone notice the screen would take longer to come on from standby after the 11.1 update? Mine takes about a second longer than I THINK it did before updating, but I'm not sure.
I noticed that as well. 1st few times I hit it twice due to the delay which would end up turning it on and then back to standby/sleep
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Hopefully they'll rectify this in the next couple of days, don't want to be without root again .
On a different note, did anyone notice the screen would take longer to come on from standby after the 11.1 update? Mine takes about a second longer than I THINK it did before updating, but I'm not sure.
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Yes, also noticed it. We'll see if the .13 goes back to the quicker.
Duh!
Just tried something on my 11.1 that I manually updated. If you already have root, use a build.prop editor to change:
ro.build.display.id to IML74K.US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
ro.build.version.incremental to US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
Save, then reboot. Once it boots up, don't unlock the device. Turn the screen off until it connects to the network, then unlock. It may hot-reboot a couple of times, but just keep trying.
Once you've got it up, go check for a firmware update. You should be able to get it.
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Just tried something on my 11.1 that I manually updated. If you already have root, use a build.prop editor to change:
ro.build.display.id to IML74K.US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
ro.build.version.incremental to US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
Save, then reboot. Once it boots up, don't unlock the device. Turn the screen off until it connects to the network, then unlock. It may hot-reboot a couple of times, but just keep trying.
Once you've got it up, go check for a firmware update. You should be able to get it.
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What are the risks of this? I want to do this myself but I'm worried.
isantop said:
Just tried something on my 11.1 that I manually updated. If you already have root, use a build.prop editor to change:
ro.build.display.id to IML74K.US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
ro.build.version.incremental to US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
Save, then reboot. Once it boots up, don't unlock the device. Turn the screen off until it connects to the network, then unlock. It may hot-reboot a couple of times, but just keep trying.
Once you've got it up, go check for a firmware update. You should be able to get it.
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Trying now.
*RETARDED found both
isantop said:
Just tried something on my 11.1 that I manually updated. If you already have root, use a build.prop editor to change:
ro.build.display.id to IML74K.US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
ro.build.version.incremental to US_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117
Save, then reboot. Once it boots up, don't unlock the device. Turn the screen off until it connects to the network, then unlock. It may hot-reboot a couple of times, but just keep trying.
Once you've got it up, go check for a firmware update. You should be able to get it.
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Even if this seems to work, I would be very worried about messing up the system. The OTAs are basically a patch file, and they only contain the changed bits of system files, not the whole files. (It's using bsdiff, if anyone cares.)
What this means is, if it's patching the wrong file because you lied about your version, it will very likely mess up your system - maybe even make it unbootable until you fix it with a full update.
Now, it's possible this update doesn't touch any files which changed between .11 and. 11.1, so it would be safe. But I wouldn't assume that.
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Trying now.
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Any news? I.e. does it work or not?
I just got this new G3 and i update now its 11c is there a root i would really like to root it please help
Could you always flash back to 10b and then root? I took the update a few days ago went back to 10b so my Foxfi works. Just hope I dont have to take the update later. This is what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Yes, drop back to 10b, root, then figure out what you want to do. In my case I applied the modem, boot, and system files from 11c, but did not try to apply the ota directly.
I would flash back to 10b. Then root with Stump, Bump it so TWRP recovery will be accessible. Then download Beanstown 11c rom and flash it. You will then be on the latest version without worrying about ota updates breaking root.
Just wait for the developers to release the updates from here on or you will risk losing root and unlocked bootloader.
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
Later on, no telling how much later yet, replacement phones will come with Lollipop preinstalled. At that point there might be no way to root and bump at all, because rolling back to v10b might be blocked.
Point is, if you need access to your phone as if you really owned it yourself, get it now and protect it best you can. Things are changing.
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How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
JCryselZ33 said:
How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
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You have to use the KDZ method. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Downgrade From VS98511C to VS98510B (Stock)
ride5000 said:
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
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Hey I accidentally took the update and thought I was outta luck. But I was able to downgrade back to stock then use Stump to root. Go here. Worked great for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Once y'all kdz back to 10b flash a 11c rom. There's 2 to choose from. Jasmine and beanstown. I got Jasmine running. Its a beast. I also recommend the sky kernel in the og dev section. Really helps with battery.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... I thought stump auto installed TWRP? I'm new to Lg... came from an S4..... so I'm not very familiar with downgrading from 11c-10b but I'm slowly figuring it out through multiple forums.... I'm still not sure wth bumping TWRP is though.... I just want to get into CM12 eventually... lol
Edit: N/m I was thinking of BUMP..... damn YouTube videos making me confused at times...
Bump does not install on your phone itself or make any changes to your phone. Stuff like TWRP must be changed slightly by their developers to make them appear signed so they will load - bumpD does that. To the things you are flashing once rooted via Stump or ioRoot or PurpleDrake.
You don't use bumpD yourself, you flash images that have been bumpD.
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I've tried searching and reading through the various downgrade and upgrade available threads, but can't seem to find anything concrete on the matter. Has anyone confirmed that rollback has OR has not been blocked in the latest OTA - 12B? I'm assuming the tot method wouldn't work since it didn't work with 11C, so I'm most specifically wondering about the kdz method. I'm trying to figure this out for a friend. Thanks!
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I've tried searching and reading through the various downgrade and upgrade available threads, but can't seem to find anything concrete on the matter. Has anyone confirmed that rollback has OR has not been blocked in the latest OTA - 12B? I'm assuming the tot method wouldn't work since it didn't work with 11C, so I'm most specifically wondering about the kdz method. I'm trying to figure this out for a friend. Thanks!
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This topic is of interest to me as I started on 10B and never took any OTA. I rooted, bump'd and started running Beanstown 11C, Cyanogenmod 11, BlissPop 5.0.1 and now SkyDragon 2.0.0. I have seen some report that the .tot method has been met with mixed success for people that took the 11C update but I haven't seen any details. Does the LG Flash Tool have issues laying down the base 10B image when it sees 11C? I would guess if that is the case, the same would be for 12B. Has anyone tried formatting with TWRP etc.?
I have never done the LG Flash Tool with .tot but was always keeping it in my toolbox for when the official Lollipop 5.0.x build comes from Verizon. I would be interested to see why the .tot method fails or the KDZ method for that matter.
Don't know about 12b (but I think someone else did reply to this question in another forum and stated that yes, you can downgrade back to 10b), but this post says downgrading from 11c possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
iBolski said:
Don't know about 12b (but I think someone else did reply to this question in another forum and stated that yes, you can downgrade back to 10b), but this post says downgrading from 11c possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
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Yep, I know all about that. I've tot restored 10B a couple different times, and kdz'ed an 11C install back to 10B once, so I'm very familiar with both of those. I'm really curious to know though specifically if anyone has been able to confirm if 12B can be kdz'ed (or tot'ed for that matter, but I doubt it), back to 10B. If a new phone is bought in the next few weeks an comes out of the box with 12B flashed, I need to know whether this I would be stuck as unrootable/unlockable for the time being.
done.
I did it. Was curious about Advanced Calling so I downgraded since I forgot to make a backup of stock recovery. Got back to stock with no root and no custom recovery. Then I took the OTA updates to 12B. Found out I could not root from there and crossed my fingers and downgraded again. Had a moment of panic as the first attempt failed. Instead of getting a success msg on my computer and a big red number 3 on my phone I had a big red number 2. Restarted the process again and this time it took it. Rooted first this time, then took the updates. Not really interested anymore in custom ROMS and am happy with stock and root. I am curious though if I will be able to install TWRP from here. Haven't tried it.
I'd be careful though and get one more confirmation before you try it. When I said panic, that is really putting it lightly lol
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Yep, I know all about that. I've tot restored 10B a couple different times, and kdz'ed an 11C install back to 10B once, so I'm very familiar with both of those. I'm really curious to know though specifically if anyone has been able to confirm if 12B can be kdz'ed (or tot'ed for that matter, but I doubt it), back to 10B. If a new phone is bought in the next few weeks an comes out of the box with 12B flashed, I need to know whether this I would be stuck as unrootable/unlockable for the time being.
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I can tell you this, I was rooted and the 12B update is on my phone and I'm still rooted. I'm going to try and flash back to 10B to see if it works or not. I'm trying to download the KDZ file, but it keeps aborting. The connection is REAL slow.
I haven't tried the TOT file yet either.
I used the TOT file myself.
A couple of things to consider, the tot download is to 10b_3 (the released version) and kzd is to version 10b_1.
The main difference is that 10b_3 Will take OTA updates while 10b_1 Will not.
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tomlow said:
I used the TOT file myself.
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Awesome! That's what I wanted to know. I'll probably stay on 12b rooted for now then.
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tomlow said:
I did it. Was curious about Advanced Calling so I downgraded since I forgot to make a backup of stock recovery. Got back to stock with no root and no custom recovery. Then I took the OTA updates to 12B. Found out I could not root from there and crossed my fingers and downgraded again. Had a moment of panic as the first attempt failed. Instead of getting a success msg on my computer and a big red number 3 on my phone I had a big red number 2. Restarted the process again and this time it took it. Rooted first this time, then took the updates. Not really interested anymore in custom ROMS and am happy with stock and root. I am curious though if I will be able to install TWRP from here. Haven't tried it.
I'd be careful though and get one more confirmation before you try it. When I said panic, that is really putting it lightly lol
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Oh, and yes. You can install TWRP. As long as you're rooted, use Flashify to flash it. I can't seem to get to it via the button pushes though, so I installed Quick Boot and use that to boot into recovery, although at this time, I have no use for the recovery except for doing nandroid backups.
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I used the TOT file myself.
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Thanks a ton for these confirmations....I have to say though, it's very interesting that tot worked for you when so many people had such trouble using the tot when 11C came out. Thanks again though!
ohlin5 said:
Thanks a ton for these confirmations....I have to say though, it's very interesting that tot worked for you when so many people had such trouble using the tot when 11C came out. Thanks again though!
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I'm just surprised SuperSU survived the OTAs as I thought it wouldn't since the exploit probably does some modification to the system partition. On Motorola phones it usually caused issues.
I downgraded from 12b using the kdz method. No problems what so ever other than the flash tool crashing at the end.
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I downgraded from 12b using the kdz method. No problems what so ever other than the flash tool crashing at the end.
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Interesting....well then I'll ask you another couple off topic questions then, since the only experience I had with the kdz method turned out SUPER sketchy haha. So when I started the flash tool program up and began the process of flashing, I had 2 weird occurrences and want to know if you experienced anything similar. The first weird thing that happened is I never had any confirmation that the software was "seeing" the phone as being connected. I don't have it in front of me as I'm at work, but I recall one screen having boxes in the lower left corner that seemed like they should show something if it were seeing a device connected, but they were completely blank - do you know what screen I'm referring to, and did this happen to you?
And the second thing that happened that about gave me a heart attack (since it was on a friend's phone hahaha), was that when I couldn't get those boxes described above to populate and give me any indication/confirmation that the software was actually "seeing" anything, I just bit the bullet and decided to hit next, at which point the flash tool took off and began flashing, but both the flash tool program itself, and the dialogue boxes that popped up during the process were completely full of question marks.....nothing at all readable. Did you also experience anything like this?
Just figured I'd ask as since I did this to a friend's phone a month or so ago, it's always bugged me as to why it occurred, and so I've been very hesitant to ever use it again should I have to, so I at least wanted to see if I was in the minority on these experiences haha Thanks in advance!
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Interesting....well then I'll ask you another couple off topic questions then, since the only experience I had with the kdz method turned out SUPER sketchy haha. So when I started the flash tool program up and began the process of flashing, I had 2 weird occurrences and want to know if you experienced anything similar. The first weird thing that happened is I never had any confirmation that the software was "seeing" the phone as being connected. I don't have it in front of me as I'm at work, but I recall one screen having boxes in the lower left corner that seemed like they should show something if it were seeing a device connected, but they were completely blank - do you know what screen km referring to, and did this happen to you?
And the second thing that happened that about gave me a heart attack (since it was one friend's phone hahaha), was that when I couldn't get those boxes described above to populate and give me an indication/confirmation that the software was "seeing" anything, I just bit the bullet and decided to hit at which point the flash tool took off and began flashing, but both the flash tool program itself, and the dialogue boxes that popped up were completely full of question marks.....nothing at all readable. Did you also experience anything like this?
Just figured I'd ask as since I did this to a friend's phone a month or so ago, it's always bugged me as to why it occurred, and I've been hesitant to ever use it again should I have to, so I am least wanted to see if I was in the minority haha Thanks in advance!
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Yah, it was sketch. I did see all the ?????? all over the screen but I trusted the directions on the thread.
As far as the software seeing the device, the only indication that I had was the program showing the available memory on the device, so I knew it was reading it.
I did it once, it worked, I'm not really a seasoned flasher. I just got my G3 last week and I had OTAd before rooting and unlocking.
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Yah, it was sketch. I did see all the ?????? all over the screen but I trusted the directions on the thread.
As far as the software seeing the device, the only indication that I had was the program showing the available memory on the device, so I knew it was reading it.
I did it once, it worked, I'm not really a seasoned flasher. I just got my G3 last week and I had OTAd before rooting and unlocking.
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Lol well I appreciate your confirmation that I'm not the only one who felt the sketchiness. I never noticed the available memory as being shown, but maybe I overlooked that. And I'm a pretty seasoned flasher, at least as far as custom rom flashing goes, but yeah that process definitely grew a little hair on my knuckles lol. Thanks again!
is 12B even worth upgrading to?
I have been reading alot about the update to 11 and 12B. is it really worth it to upgrade?...I got my phone it had 10B out of the box (I think) and phone immediately said there was an update as I was on my way home from the verizon store, so I thought sure and did the update, got home and started looking into root and realized I had to downgrade to 10 to get root, did it KTZ method, rooted, installed TWRP so I can make backups, and here I am ever since, as far as I can tell from reading is the only thing 12B gives you is advanced calling or whatever it is, I dont really care if I have that, I dont really even care if I have that unless someone can chime in and tell me whats its all about, is it worth upgrading and risking loosing root and stuff just for this advanced calling feature?...what is it and what does it do?
This is VoLTE or Voice over LTE. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't do anything on the G3 other than allow your voice conversations to travel over the LTE line. This update was required for the Turbo, Sony, and other new phones that could not talk and surf at the same time. The G3 never had that problem.
nice tips, i was at 10b and rooted. i just couldnt take the annoying update available pop up anymore.
so i unrooted, udpated to 12b, then realized i cant root 12b. i just re flashed back to 10b.
my questions:
1) do i root 10b then upgrade to 11c? if so how, this was my original version and my problem was it always failed to update?
2) do i upgrade to 11c first, then root? if so how, i cant find directions to root 11c?
3) once rooted at 11c, how to i upgrade to 12b while keeping the root?
only reason i root is for wifi tethering on a unlimited verizon plan, if there is another way to be updated and have tethering, please share.
thank you.
i am a newbie at rooting, so specific links/steps are appreciated.
Yes. I went from 12 to 10,just follow the instructions.
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Yes. I went from 12 to 10,just follow the instructions.
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im not sure if you are trying answering my questions or not. if you are, i am rooted at 10b again. how do i keep my root but update to at least 11c, but preferably 12b?
update, i found a temp solution in another thread thanks to user Wildcat2083 :
I found a useful trick to keep the ota from showing up, if you enter ##3328873 in tge dialer pad and enter 000000 for the service code you then can uncheck the ota-dm mode this should prevent any ota
this at least gets rid of the update pop up. but i would still like to know how to upgrade to 12b well keeping my root.
So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?
- Is there a new update coming soon?
Do the updates actually help the phone performance and fix issues without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself?
Thanks!
Ariac Konrel said:
So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)yes
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?after, or you will get stuck in recovery
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?no, just flash twrp after updating
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?12b
- Is there a new update coming soon?unlikely anyone can answer this
Do the updates actually help the phone performance not really and fix issues other than lag im not sure what needs to be fixed without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself? for the most part, you will need to tweek and mod yourself to improve performance and fix issues such as lag
Thanks!
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One more thing...
When I am updating and another software update is released, I will have TWRP flashed.
Updating it will cause a bootloop.
How can I prevent that?
Using titanium backup (TiBU) or similar program, freeze the app called "System updates 1_...". For me this has worked, though some people seem to still have issues; I'm trying to figure out if it is a TiBU problem or if they have accidentally frozen the wrong thing.
Alternative is to go to /system/app and rename the two LGDMSClient files, add a .bak to the end of the names, then restart.
See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56061720
Copy the zip in the first post onto your phone. If you accidentally do get an ota after you have a custom recovery, tell twrp to Install that zip
file. It will flush the ota from your system, so you aren't such buying to recovery.
HTH!
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
Doh...
BladeRunner said:
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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Lucky....12b here
rensmooth said:
Lucky....12b here
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You DO know that you can downgrade back to 10b to root and bump, correct? Just use KDZ or TOT files.
That was one of the other things I researched before getting this phone. Luckily, it came with 10B, but I'm on 12b, rooted and bumped.
Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
rensmooth said:
Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
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I know the feeling. For the past 3 three years, I was on Motorola phones, so there was a lot of FXZ files and fastboot flashing for me. Switching to LG meant learning that all over again.
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Here, if any of you know the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-overheating-issues-t2975509
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
manchucka said:
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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That I don't know about, since the two tools to flash the TOT and KDZ files are windows based.
Not sure if you could get them to run via Wine or something, but that might be an option, but since it also requires all the drivers and such, I have no idea how/if that would work and wouldn't even know how to start to set that up.
On motorola phones, you could use the fastboot command line tool that comes with the Android SDK and drivers, so that was nice.
But to take the TOT and KDZ files and flash them under Linux, I have no idea.
I got my phone on 11b, and downgraded it.
Used the Stump root, and then I used Bump! to install TWRP.
Forgot to do the updates, oh well another day.
They're not that important., right?
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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Advanced calling does nothing for me because I believe it's an extra charge on your bill for it. Forget that!
AC 1.0 is no added charge. HD voice is billed the same as any other call. The video part of a video call gets booked against your data plan (I'm grandfathered Unlimited), and free if it goes over WiFi.
manchucka said:
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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If I was you. I would get me an older used Win7 Laptop if you want to flash phones. Will make your life easier...
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markfm said:
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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can you please show me how to this my phone got stuck tryin to go to 11c
In the Verizon g3 General section, stickies, bweN diorD has a reference thread. He has links to the various images, and to a thread on using flash2.
one click root
BladeRunner said:
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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This is the second G3 I have purchased. I Suggest using one click root to root. Also stop and Phil's can be flashed using flashing. It seems easier to me dealing with image rather than zip. I've foremost roms and so far my experience has me favoring Bliss Pop. That is what I am running now and to be honest I think I'm going back to 10b. The customizations are nice but to me it's not worth the problems associated with L.P. My opinion Bliss Pop has the best handle on the problems and still too much for me. I'm going to give LP a few months for the developers fix all bugs. Verizon hasn't released LP yet and there is reason behind that other than being big bully carrier. Once again my opinion only. You picked a great phone that is for sure!
I had to do a warranty swap on my 10B that I had rooted. (Bad screen) The replacement they sent me is an 11C. Is there any reason I should stay on 11C as opposed to updating to 12B? I mean as far as terms of rooting, custom recoveries and things of that nature. Can everything be done on 12B that can be done on 11C? I rooted when it first became available and really havent done anything since then. But would like to start playing with some custom roms now that LP is getting a lil more solid.
12b is now rootable: I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3049772 . It worked like a charm. Apparently also works for the unofficial 5.x releases (23a? 23b?).
It's now apparently been incorporated into a "one-click" script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
I have no great desire to play with new ROMs (I have a couple of Nexus tablets for that -- the phone is for work) so I haven't flashed any custom recovery, but it's apparently do-able on 12b once you have root. I *do* like having Xposed Framwork on there with things like GravityBox and XSSID to tweak my status bar and SwipeBack to make that nice big screen a bit easier to navigate. With those tweaks done, there really isn't anything else I need.
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I had to do a warranty swap on my 10B that I had rooted. (Bad screen) The replacement they sent me is an 11C. Is there any reason I should stay on 11C as opposed to updating to 12B? I mean as far as terms of rooting, custom recoveries and things of that nature. Can everything be done on 12B that can be done on 11C? I rooted when it first became available and really havent done anything since then. But would like to start playing with some custom roms now that LP is getting a lil more solid.
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In my experience, I posted this on a couple other threads, if you're on a GSM network, any radio after 11c disables LTE.
If you are on Verizon you are still going to get LTE. I personally have cricket and do not get LTE unless i'm on 10b or 11c. Any modem after that disables my LTE and I only get H+
Hope this helps
I have had nothing but problems with my phone since upgrading to 12B. Call quality is lousy. Everyone complains they can't hear and that it's garbled, echoes, and mostly static. The volume from the ear speaker is greatly muted even on its loudest setting. GIFs are broken in the stock texting apps (Hangouts, Messages+, stock) but I a at least found a workaround with Textra. From what I've read in the various forums online it's a common problem. I tried doing a warranty swap hoping it was just a malfunction in the phone but the one LG sent me has the same problems, too.
I had absolutely no problems on 11C and wish there was a way I could revert without rooting. The employees at the Verizon store just shake their head and tell me I'm just going to have to wait for Lollipop - whenever that'll happen. So until then I'm stuck.
Keep in mind not everyone is having this problem and I don't know what conditions have been in place that caused these issues with my phone. You might get lucky.
justbenny2k said:
I had absolutely no problems on 11C and wish there was a way I could revert without rooting.
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You don't have to root to get to 11C. TOT the 10B_03 file, then OTA to 11C.
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You don't have to root to get to 11C. TOT the 10B_03 file, then OTA to 11C.
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How? Is there a link you could post here? Thanks in advance.
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How? Is there a link you could post here? Thanks in advance.
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Sure, and you're welcome. I searched for "TOT" in the main Verizon LG G3 section (where the subsections are listed) and on the bottom of the second page I found [URL="[/URL]
It gives a link to the Windows tool you need to flash it to your phone while your phone is in download mode. It'll wipe everything including the internal storage, so backup any pictures or other things you want from the internal storage to external SD or to the PC first.
[URL=" link[/URL] is another source for the same things, you pick which thread you like better.
You can download the 10B (10B_03 TOT, NOT the 10B_01 KDZ) to 11C OTA file from the second link in the fourth paragraph of the OP of [URL=" thread[/URL]. It's the link right after
UPDATE: I've uploaded all three OTA update packages (10B to 11C, 11C to 12B, and 12B to 23A) to...
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Then you can follow some of the directions in [URL=" thread[/URL] to upgrade from 10B_03 to 11C via the official OTA package. You want the directions following the words in the OP
Now we're going to update to 23A using a method described here by justiz33.
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. Just the paragraphs in the quoted text that follows that.
Be sure to thank every person who contributed to all this know-how. :good: