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I just got this new G3 and i update now its 11c is there a root i would really like to root it please help
Could you always flash back to 10b and then root? I took the update a few days ago went back to 10b so my Foxfi works. Just hope I dont have to take the update later. This is what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Yes, drop back to 10b, root, then figure out what you want to do. In my case I applied the modem, boot, and system files from 11c, but did not try to apply the ota directly.
I would flash back to 10b. Then root with Stump, Bump it so TWRP recovery will be accessible. Then download Beanstown 11c rom and flash it. You will then be on the latest version without worrying about ota updates breaking root.
Just wait for the developers to release the updates from here on or you will risk losing root and unlocked bootloader.
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
Later on, no telling how much later yet, replacement phones will come with Lollipop preinstalled. At that point there might be no way to root and bump at all, because rolling back to v10b might be blocked.
Point is, if you need access to your phone as if you really owned it yourself, get it now and protect it best you can. Things are changing.
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How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
JCryselZ33 said:
How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
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You have to use the KDZ method. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Downgrade From VS98511C to VS98510B (Stock)
ride5000 said:
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
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Hey I accidentally took the update and thought I was outta luck. But I was able to downgrade back to stock then use Stump to root. Go here. Worked great for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Once y'all kdz back to 10b flash a 11c rom. There's 2 to choose from. Jasmine and beanstown. I got Jasmine running. Its a beast. I also recommend the sky kernel in the og dev section. Really helps with battery.
Sent from my LG G3.
Correct me if I'm wrong... I thought stump auto installed TWRP? I'm new to Lg... came from an S4..... so I'm not very familiar with downgrading from 11c-10b but I'm slowly figuring it out through multiple forums.... I'm still not sure wth bumping TWRP is though.... I just want to get into CM12 eventually... lol
Edit: N/m I was thinking of BUMP..... damn YouTube videos making me confused at times...
Bump does not install on your phone itself or make any changes to your phone. Stuff like TWRP must be changed slightly by their developers to make them appear signed so they will load - bumpD does that. To the things you are flashing once rooted via Stump or ioRoot or PurpleDrake.
You don't use bumpD yourself, you flash images that have been bumpD.
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So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?
- Is there a new update coming soon?
Do the updates actually help the phone performance and fix issues without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself?
Thanks!
Ariac Konrel said:
So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)yes
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?after, or you will get stuck in recovery
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?no, just flash twrp after updating
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?12b
- Is there a new update coming soon?unlikely anyone can answer this
Do the updates actually help the phone performance not really and fix issues other than lag im not sure what needs to be fixed without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself? for the most part, you will need to tweek and mod yourself to improve performance and fix issues such as lag
Thanks!
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One more thing...
When I am updating and another software update is released, I will have TWRP flashed.
Updating it will cause a bootloop.
How can I prevent that?
Using titanium backup (TiBU) or similar program, freeze the app called "System updates 1_...". For me this has worked, though some people seem to still have issues; I'm trying to figure out if it is a TiBU problem or if they have accidentally frozen the wrong thing.
Alternative is to go to /system/app and rename the two LGDMSClient files, add a .bak to the end of the names, then restart.
See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56061720
Copy the zip in the first post onto your phone. If you accidentally do get an ota after you have a custom recovery, tell twrp to Install that zip
file. It will flush the ota from your system, so you aren't such buying to recovery.
HTH!
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
Doh...
BladeRunner said:
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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Lucky....12b here
rensmooth said:
Lucky....12b here
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You DO know that you can downgrade back to 10b to root and bump, correct? Just use KDZ or TOT files.
That was one of the other things I researched before getting this phone. Luckily, it came with 10B, but I'm on 12b, rooted and bumped.
Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
rensmooth said:
Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
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I know the feeling. For the past 3 three years, I was on Motorola phones, so there was a lot of FXZ files and fastboot flashing for me. Switching to LG meant learning that all over again.
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Here, if any of you know the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-overheating-issues-t2975509
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
manchucka said:
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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That I don't know about, since the two tools to flash the TOT and KDZ files are windows based.
Not sure if you could get them to run via Wine or something, but that might be an option, but since it also requires all the drivers and such, I have no idea how/if that would work and wouldn't even know how to start to set that up.
On motorola phones, you could use the fastboot command line tool that comes with the Android SDK and drivers, so that was nice.
But to take the TOT and KDZ files and flash them under Linux, I have no idea.
I got my phone on 11b, and downgraded it.
Used the Stump root, and then I used Bump! to install TWRP.
Forgot to do the updates, oh well another day.
They're not that important., right?
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
markfm said:
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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Advanced calling does nothing for me because I believe it's an extra charge on your bill for it. Forget that!
AC 1.0 is no added charge. HD voice is billed the same as any other call. The video part of a video call gets booked against your data plan (I'm grandfathered Unlimited), and free if it goes over WiFi.
manchucka said:
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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If I was you. I would get me an older used Win7 Laptop if you want to flash phones. Will make your life easier...
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markfm said:
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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can you please show me how to this my phone got stuck tryin to go to 11c
In the Verizon g3 General section, stickies, bweN diorD has a reference thread. He has links to the various images, and to a thread on using flash2.
one click root
BladeRunner said:
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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This is the second G3 I have purchased. I Suggest using one click root to root. Also stop and Phil's can be flashed using flashing. It seems easier to me dealing with image rather than zip. I've foremost roms and so far my experience has me favoring Bliss Pop. That is what I am running now and to be honest I think I'm going back to 10b. The customizations are nice but to me it's not worth the problems associated with L.P. My opinion Bliss Pop has the best handle on the problems and still too much for me. I'm going to give LP a few months for the developers fix all bugs. Verizon hasn't released LP yet and there is reason behind that other than being big bully carrier. Once again my opinion only. You picked a great phone that is for sure!
Hey, everyone,
I am new to LG android devices with my G3, and everything I found regarding rooting my new phone says that ioroot, stumproot, and even towel root should work, but none of them have. in ioroot, I ran the batch file and nothing happened. my device did not go into recovery like it was supposed to. Stump just said "sorry, your device is patched", and Towel root, which I had used on my GS5 flawlessly said that my G3 was not supported. I reeeeaaaly want to get mine and my wifes G3s rooted, but nothing is working. Please help!
The root methods only work on the original 10b software release.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56484240
Make sure to read the first two posts at least.
I believe both methods of getting back to 10b still work as of the current, 12b, VZW software. The kdz approach is supposed to be simpler, and works with more PCs, but only gets you back to a pre-release 10b. I'd use that approach if I absolutely planned to do a custom recovery (Bump'd twrp) and turned off over-the-air updates.
If you want to take the OTA up through 12b, use the second, tot, approach. Beats me what has to be done to preserve root (might be a SuperSU setting?).
I was an early G3 person, immediately rooted 10b when ioroot came out, froze "System updates..." (VZW's OTA app -- called "LGDMSClient" in /system/app), then individually applied the 12c update images (.img files -- there's a thread on that).
Good luck -- an excellent phone!
markfm said:
The root methods only work on the original 10b software release.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56484240
Make sure to read the first two posts at least.
I believe both methods of getting back to 10b still work as of the current, 12b, VZW software. The kdz approach is supposed to be simpler, and works with more PCs, but only gets you back to a pre-release 10b. I'd use that approach if I absolutely planned to do a custom recovery (Bump'd twrp) and turned off over-the-air updates.
If you want to take the OTA up through 12b, use the second, tot, approach. Beats me what has to be done to preserve root (might be a SuperSU setting?).
I was an early G3 person, immediately rooted 10b when ioroot came out, froze "System updates..." (VZW's OTA app -- called "LGDMSClient" in /system/app), then individually applied the 12c update images (.img files -- there's a thread on that).
Good luck -- an excellent phone!
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Thank you! I came from a SGS5 and I am loving this phone so far. There seems to be some differences in the root methods for Sammy and LG devices. Lol I will give this a shot. I'm sure it'll all work out fine.
Hello all, just wondering if there is a root yet for zv6. Im still on a rooted zv6 and dont want to upgrade for loss of root.
cpusmc said:
Hello all, just wondering if there is a root yet for zv6. Im still on a rooted zv6 and dont want to upgrade for loss of root.
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Do you meant you're on a rooted ZV4?
There is no root for ZV6, but there are pre-rooted ZV6 ROMs available.
Stock ZV6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/development/rom-stock-zv6-base-odex-deodex-t2949087
Debloated, tweaked and improved AV6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/development/rom-barrin-odexed-deodexed-t2950747
So pre rooted zv6 is the same? Hiw do i go about installing
cpusmc said:
So pre rooted zv6 is the same? Hiw do i go about installing
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Instructions are in the OP of the thread I linked to.
meyerweb said:
Do you meant you're on a rooted ZV4?
There is no root for ZV6, but there are pre-rooted ZV6 ROMs available.
Stock ZV6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/development/rom-stock-zv6-base-odex-deodex-t2949087
Debloated, tweaked and improved AV6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/development/rom-barrin-odexed-deodexed-t2950747
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again, i stress for clarity on these sites discussing ROM's, root etc.... please know what you are talking about when you post here. having a rooted zv6 and wondering if there is a root for zv6 is just nonsense. its the same thing. the only way to get root if you have the update (zv6) is to roll back to zv4, root, add custom recovery, then flash zv6 rooted rom to it. not just that easy, but fairly easy on most other devices. here, for the stock zv6 to zv4, i can not find any clear answer on the commands and DOES IT WORK. no one has posted with any success in attempting it. i find it hard to believe i can flash, wihtout recovery, to a rooted zv4 from the stock bootloader. do you know if this is possible meyerweb?
thanks
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again, i stress for clarity on these sites discussing ROM's, root etc.... please know what you are talking about when you post here. having a rooted zv6 and wondering if there is a root for zv6 is just nonsense. its the same thing. the only way to get root if you have the update (zv6) is to roll back to zv4, root, add custom recovery, then flash zv6 rooted rom to it. not just that easy, but fairly easy on most other devices. here, for the stock zv6 to zv4, i can not find any clear answer on the commands and DOES IT WORK. no one has posted with any success in attempting it. i find it hard to believe i can flash, wihtout recovery, to a rooted zv4 from the stock bootloader. do you know if this is possible meyerweb?
thanks
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I'm not really sure what you're asking. Are you currently on ZV4 or ZV6? Are you rooted or not?
(1) If you're on ZV4, you can root with Stump, then flash the bumped TWRP which unlocks the bootloader. (There's a thread on how to do this Search for "Bump" and make sure you use the Sprint version.) Then you can flash a pre-rooted ZV6 ROM.
(2) If you're on the factory, non-rooted ZV6 ROM, there's no way to root it. You'll have to use LG's flashtool to revert to the stock ZV4, then follow the steps above.
(3) If you're on a rooted ZV6, then you must have done the steps in (1), above already.
If you're asking if reverting to ZV4, then doing (1) above works, then yes. People have done it successfully. But using flashtool will wipe your phone and all data on internal storage.
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I'm not really sure what you're asking. Are you currently on ZV4 or ZV6? Are you rooted or not?
(1) If you're on ZV4, you can root with Stump, then flash the bumped TWRP which unlocks the bootloader. (There's a thread on how to do this Search for "Bump" and make sure you use the Sprint version.) Then you can flash a pre-rooted ZV6 ROM.
(2) If you're on the factory, non-rooted ZV6 ROM, there's no way to root it. You'll have to use LG's flashtool to revert to the stock ZV4, then follow the steps above.
(3) If you're on a rooted ZV6, then you must have done the steps in (1), above already.
If you're asking if reverting to ZV4, then doing (1) above works, then yes. People have done it successfully. But using flashtool will wipe your phone and all data on internal storage.
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for me specifically, i'm asking about 2. i am on zv6, the way i got the phone unfortunately. but noone is saying if they have had success flashtooling back to zv4. i'm an htc and galaxy experienced phone user. have done those roots, recoveries, etc... but they even say, rolling back from a stock rom, non-rooted, is usually impossible, without first acquring root in current stock rom. i know they are publishing 'how-to's' on how to roll back to zv4 stock from zv6 stock, but there hasnt been any confirmation yet on the thread that i could tell. i even posted, asking if anyone has had success, but i do not see it yet. so i'm asking you, do you know if anyone has succeeded at flashtool to zv4 from zv6? i'm taking it, when you roll back to zv4, its stock, un-rooted, correct? i downloaded all the tools, tot's and dll but over two sets of instructions on what dll to use and when. so i'm not risking bricking this because once again, the guru's do not clarify to us 'underlings' the exact process. I had the same experience with the htc and galaxy phones. its like they are talking to each other only and the process is implied because of the experience. well after hundreds of resets , rom switches, etc with my galaxy, i think i get what they mean in that system of phones. but this LG is totally new and uses different terms, tools and processes. if they worked in IT they'd know what technical writing is, so i'm assuming they might be non-it people and thus the confusion on how to explain , in simple concise steps, so that others may join in. If they did that, more would join in and enable the community to grow exponentially. i've heard many IT freinds say they wont try it because they were confused, or it didnt make sense, or they heard the horror stories. I have lived the horror stories, but there is usually a way out of the boot loop or bricked device situation. problem is, with so little about the LG out there, i dont want to be waiting for weeks/months to get it back to work.
thanks for your help.
LG has not implemented an anti-rollback feature in ZV6 (like Samsung did on their more recent ROMs). And using Flashtool completely replaces all the existing partitions on your phone, so it doesn't care what was there before (rooted, not-rooted, ZV4 or 6, or anything else).
I don't see anyone confirming they did it, but it's been suggested many times, and I haven't seen anyone say it didn't work, either.
Edit: Here's a post from someone who did this successfully. Post # 186: http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...g-g3-ls990-t2852042/post57504184#post57504184
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for me specifically, i'm asking about 2. i am on zv6, the way i got the phone unfortunately. but noone is saying if they have had success flashtooling back to zv4. i'm an htc and galaxy experienced phone user. have done those roots, recoveries, etc... but they even say, rolling back from a stock rom, non-rooted, is usually impossible, without first acquring root in current stock rom. i know they are publishing 'how-to's' on how to roll back to zv4 stock from zv6 stock, but there hasnt been any confirmation yet on the thread that i could tell. i even posted, asking if anyone has had success, but i do not see it yet. so i'm asking you, do you know if anyone has succeeded at flashtool to zv4 from zv6? i'm taking it, when you roll back to zv4, its stock, un-rooted, correct? i downloaded all the tools, tot's and dll but over two sets of instructions on what dll to use and when. so i'm not risking bricking this because once again, the guru's do not clarify to us 'underlings' the exact process. I had the same experience with the htc and galaxy phones. its like they are talking to each other only and the process is implied because of the experience. well after hundreds of resets , rom switches, etc with my galaxy, i think i get what they mean in that system of phones. but this LG is totally new and uses different terms, tools and processes. if they worked in IT they'd know what technical writing is, so i'm assuming they might be non-it people and thus the confusion on how to explain , in simple concise steps, so that others may join in. If they did that, more would join in and enable the community to grow exponentially. i've heard many IT freinds say they wont try it because they were confused, or it didnt make sense, or they heard the horror stories. I have lived the horror stories, but there is usually a way out of the boot loop or bricked device situation. problem is, with so little about the LG out there, i dont want to be waiting for weeks/months to get it back to work.
thanks for your help.
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All you need to do is read. It's all right in this forum.
Read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57185864
And
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55225699
I've just read them again and they answer every question you wanted to know.
And yes, you can roll back to zv4. It's in one or both of those threads I linked above.
I did the stump root when I got the phone and haven't done anything since (on ZV4 android 4.4.2). I only root for the hotspot feature. I've seen posts about available Roms but nothing about keeping stock. Could anyone be kind enough to update me on what I need to do to update to the current version and then root again (or point me to the correct links). Tired of seeing the update icon on my phone and would like the current android version. Sorry if this post is unecessary, didn't see a sticky that had the info I needed.
You can do a few things.
1) Factory reset. Take OTAs to current version (ZV8A 5.0.1), re-root. Make sure you make a backup of your /data with titanium backup or something. Also your internal storage will be wiped.
2) Flash VZ4 with LG Flash Tool. Take all OTAs. Again, will lose all data. You can also just straight up flash the ZV8 .tot and not bother with OTAs. Then Re-Root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...de-how-to-restore-sprint-lg-g3-ls990-t2852042
3) Install TWRP, flash VZ8 (lollipop) rom and let your system do the update like normal.
Installing TWRP is easy on 4.4.2. Should be able to use flashify and download the bumped version of TWRP and flash it with flashify.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...mp-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-d852-d852g-f400-t2900614
Thanks for the info porksandwich9113! I'm going to give #2 a try with the ZV8 or ZVA .tot
Figured I would update this for anyone else that may read it and benefit.
I saved any data I couldn't lose to my computer. Then I followed the awesome guide fergie716 provided here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...de-how-to-restore-sprint-lg-g3-ls990-t2852042
But I used the current ZVA tot provided by 1619415 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61512227&postcount=3 instead of the old ZV4 tot in the guide.
Everything worked beautifully but you have to get that MSL code and reset the phone or you won't have the Sprint splash screen, some sprint only apps, LG will show under "network" instead of Sprint, and worst of all, your tethering options won't show up under settings at all!!! There is a method to get the 6 digit MSL code provided in the guide but I did this late at night so I just called Sprint (no wait!) and they provide it hassle free. Did the ##RTN# reset and the phone was up to date and fully stock.
Used this one click root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/general/one-click-root-zva-t3141390
And I'm back in rooted bliss.