Hello, all. Just purchased a new Moto E 2nd gen from Boost Mobile today... I was just wondering if it is possible to just root the phone with KingRoot, without actually unlocking the bootloader? I don't want to risk accidentally bricking my phone or causing any issues.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
acesavant00 said:
Hello, all. Just purchased a new Moto E 2nd gen from Boost Mobile today... I was just wondering if it is possible to just root the phone with KingRoot, without actually unlocking the bootloader? I don't want to risk accidentally bricking my phone or causing any issues.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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Based off what can be done on the bootloader-locked AT&T/Cricket XT1527 and Verizon XT1528, it is possible to get temp root via Kingroot, but you'll end up losing it after reboot and /system remains read-only. Not very useful for root apps, no custom recovery, no xposed.
The Boost variant can be officially bootloader unlocked from Motorola via the Moto Bootloader Unlock program. The official unlock program carries 0 risk of accidentally bricking your phone, as the unlock code given by Moto either works (allowing you to flash TWRP and install root via that), or doesn't (absolutely no changes are made to the phone).
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Hi I'm new here not sure where to put this so I put it in general. OK so I have the moto x first gen on atnt but I always had cricket. I can't unlock the bootloader according to the Motorola website. Tried many root methods but all failed except. On kingroot sometimes it roots but only for a short time. Not sure what I can do with the temp root to help root my phone perm. Thanks for reading
Hey y'all I just picked up an att go phone moto e without researching it too much and I already bricked it trying sunshine. To unbrick it, I just flashed the att system image with fastboot and it made me wonder whether I can flash any motorola firmware, use kingroot, and then try sunshine again. Does anyone know if this can brick the phone permanently or is it probably safe to try it?
EDIT: tried it didn't work lol
You would have to try it and see. The XT1527 is used in Canada, and its not bootloader locked and comes with no bloat at all (at last when setting it up with no SIM inside it). I would imagine you would have to flash everything, and not just the system image, for it to work. That is if they use the same signing key for both.
The AT&T/Cricket-branded XT1527 (as well as the Verizon XT1528) have locked bootloaders and cannot be unlocked, so you cannot flash non-carrier firmware on the device. All other models can be unlocked via Moto's bootloader unlock program.
I have tried all kinds of ways to unlock/root this phone. I have rooted 6 HTC phones and in order to get my tasker profile and games and stuff I need my titanium backup. Any suggestions?
spencer311 said:
I have tried all kinds of ways to unlock/root this phone. I have rooted 6 HTC phones and in order to get my tasker profile and games and stuff I need my titanium backup. Any suggestions?
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Currently, there are no known ways to root any variant of the G5. Most have a locked bootloader, and the only one that is unlocked (T-Mobile), has a secondary lock that prevents the flashing of a custom recovery or rooting. On top of that, Android 6.0/Marshmallow requires a modified kernel to achieve root (i.e. need to flash a custom boot image), so a System-based root no longer works either.
How do you test for the dm verify bit? I should get my unlocked unbranded UK retail unit on Friday so can check if the h850 is any different.
I've just bought V30 and would like to root it. Preferably with Magisk.
Every guide I found requires to unlock bootloader. This is one step too far for me. Is there a way to root V30 without unlocking it's bootloader?
przemhb said:
I've just bought V30 and would like to root it. Preferably with Magisk.
Every guide I found requires to unlock bootloader. This is one step too far for me. Is there a way to root V30 without unlocking it's bootloader?
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NO.
Which variant did you buy?
With some, it's simply flashing a simple code via fastboot flash commands. On others you first have to convert to a variant which has fastboot flash commands, so you can flash that code. If you tell us which variant you bought, you will know if you have extra steps or not...
For all V30/V30+/V30S (except T-mobile H932) for bootloader unlock and root, you need to:
have fastboot flash commands
be on specific Oreo firmware
use the "fake" bootloader unlock code
install TWRP and flash Magisk (OK technically there is a way to root without installing TWRP, but it's easier with TWRP)
WTF V30/V30+/V30S Bootloader Unlock and Root
Thank you for your reply. I've bought European H930. Unbranded.
Android 8.0.0. Build: OPR1.170623.026. SW: V20d-EUR-XX. Security patch: 1.03.2018.
I don't want to loose my warranty, DRM protected stuff playback capability, etc.
These warnings from LG bootloader unlock website worry me and make me extra cautious. I have to be 100% sure none of the things will happen:
"When unlocking the bootloader, applications which require a trusted execution environment (TEE) to operate will not work properly because after unlocking the bootloader the device will no longer be trusted.
Unlocking the bootloader will also affect the DRM protection of your device, therefore some applications which require DRM protection may not work anymore or block certain functions due to this untrusted state.
Common examples for affected applications are services which offer download/streaming of paid multimedia content like music and movies or services offering mobile payment."
Is there at least reliable app+data migration utility to move my apps with data from an old (Marshmallow) phone to this new one? LG Mobile Switch didn't manage to migrate apps' data.
przemhb said:
Thank you for your reply. I've bought European H930. Unbranded.
Android 8.0.0. Build: OPR1.170623.026. SW: V20d-EUR-XX. Security patch: 1.03.2018.
I don't want to loose my warranty, DRM protected stuff playback capability, etc.
These warnings from LG bootloader unlock website worry me and make me extra cautious. I have to be 100% sure none of the things will happen:
"When unlocking the bootloader, applications which require a trusted execution environment (TEE) to operate will not work properly because after unlocking the bootloader the device will no longer be trusted.
Unlocking the bootloader will also affect the DRM protection of your device, therefore some applications which require DRM protection may not work anymore or block certain functions due to this untrusted state.
Common examples for affected applications are services which offer download/streaming of paid multimedia content like music and movies or services offering mobile payment."
Is there at least reliable app+data migration utility to move my apps with data from an old (Marshmallow) phone to this new one? LG Mobile Switch didn't manage to migrate apps' data.
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LG also throws a scary bootloader unlock warning in your face.
LG's "warning" is to keep you from rooting your phone. If you've rooted phones before, its no different.
Magisk hides root, so all apps work.
Anyone who's rooted their V30 can tell you how it is. The threads here are very active!
But it's your decision.
Is it possible to lock back the bootloader at the end of the process?
przemhb said:
Is it possible to lock back the bootloader at the end of the process?
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At the end of what process? Rooting? You don't seem to understand, you have to unlock the bootloader to install TWRP. You have to install TWRP to flash Magisk. OK, technically there is a way to root without TWRP (by installing a rooted kernel), but you still need bootloader unlock.
You seem hung up on bootloader unlock when it's REALLY root that LG is trying to prevent. They really couldn't care less about bootloader unlock, they are focusing on that to prevent you from rooting your phone. Because once you unlock your bootloader you are one step away from root...
Yeah, you can lock the bootloader back if you no longer want root.
Most phones require bootloader unlock to root -- Motorola, Pixel, LG, ZTE, OnePlus.
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przemhb said:
Thank you for your reply. I've bought European H930. Unbranded.
Android 8.0.0. Build: OPR1.170623.026. SW: V20d-EUR-XX. Security patch: 1.03.2018.
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I'm sorry, what is the DATE of the security patch? May, July, September? If pre-July, you are good to go. You just flash a simple code with fastboot. If July or later, you would need to temporarily downloader to pre-July 2018 firmware.
Thank you for your detailed answers! I really appreciate them.
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At the end of what process? Rooting?
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Yes. I was wondering if it is possible to lock back the bootloader once the phone is rooted, TWRP, Magisk are there. The question behind it is if having unlocked bootloader doesn't unnecessarily increase security risk (of course the main risk is to have rooted phone, and I accept it).
ChazzMatt said:
Yeah, you can lock the bootloader back if you no longer want root.
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Good news. Suppose I would unroot and lock back the bootloader, then send the phone to warranty service. Is it possible for the service to discover the phone was rooted and reject my warranty claim?
ChazzMatt said:
Most phones require bootloader unlock to root -- Motorola, Pixel, LG, ZTE, OnePlus.
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So far I've rooted every phone without unlocking bootloader. It was harder, but in some cases possible (Xperia Z2, Xperia V, Motorola Defy).
ChazzMatt said:
I'm sorry, what is the DATE of the security patch? May, July, September? If pre-July, you are good to go. You just flash a simple code with fastboot. If July or later, you would need to temporarily downloader to pre-July 2018 firmware.
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It's March.
I am not familiar with Magisk. Is it safer from the security point of view than classic roots with SuperSu+BusyBox?
Correct me if I am wrong, but unlocking bootloader means gaining write access to boot partition. TWRP needs to be stored on it. Kernel is also there. And where is Magisk stored?
Hi everyone, long time xda lurker, first post. I bought a family member an unlocked Moto G Power (2020) for Xmas and 5 months later it took a fatal ride in the laundry machine The prices now for an unlocked phone aren't so great, so I bought the Tracfone version (XT2041DL) that I hoped to be able to modify back into a vanilla "Retail" phone. My problem isn't with the carrier lock (it will stay on a Tracfone carrier for many years), but with the bootloader lock. If I understand correctly, Tracfone won't unlock the bootloader even after carrier unlocking, so there's no way to install the vanilla "retail" ROM on it? Even if not possible to load a different ROM, at the very least I want the ability to remove the added carrier bloatware that Tracfone installs, but doesn't this require root?
I believe that one other user of this forum mentioned getting XT2041DL root, but with a locked bootloader, won't that still prevent me from making any permanent changes to the system folder? I did manage to find one guide at the following website, but I don't know if it's a reliable source of information [link] or if it will allow me to accomplish my goal. If I'm stuck with Tracfone's version of the ROM I will probably just return it and take the financial hit of the unlocked retail. Also, forgive me if I sound uninformed, I'm still very much a novice although I've managed to root a few items previously with the help of xda guides. Really appreciate the insight or advice from the community here.
You can remove bloatware with ADB shell commands.
same question, can anyone suggest?
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same question, can anyone suggest?
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TracFone won't unlock the bootloader. I've tried the guide in the link OP posted and it doesn't work. One of the ADB commands does bring up the unlock warning but does nothing from there. Unfortunately the only way to unlock the BL is through Motorola's website. If you're phone is eligible, they'll send a code to unlock the phone.
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You can remove bloatware with ADB shell commands.
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I don't think tracfone is eligible to be boatload unlocked that is the whole question where it started..not sure what adb shell cmd you are referring too? Is that work for your XT2041DL? Or you have other moto g power variants?
https://www.tfwunlockpolicy.com/wps/portal/home
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https://www.tfwunlockpolicy.com/wps/portal/home
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That is carrier network unlock, not bootloader unlock.
After that, moto still refuses to unlock bootloader.