Should I Buy The International Version, or Just Wait? - LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I'm really interested in this phone, and don't think I can wait for it to release in the US.
I want to buy the international version of this phone, so I don't have to wait, have it unlocked and have a better chance of root.
My concern is that the signal (bands/freq) will differ in some way when I try to use this on my AT&T account. I'm even sure I'm phrasing that right...
Before, I knew that international phones didn't support LTE because of the different processor.
I just want to make sure I will get the same signal strength and data experience with the International version of this phone vs the AT&T variant.
Is it better for me just to wait for the AT&T variant to come out?

You'll prolly get it cheaper if you wait.

Release date is end of October for VZW and Tmobile.... Early November for AT&T... According to what an LG product specialist wrote on reddit
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Wait

buy korean variant.
Korean variants are always the best choice...

Why that?

Wait. Better band support and roms.

Completely depends on the bands you can use. But I would wait. They'll announce it in the US before the end of October as H960, fit for the US market (and in black).
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Btw there is no intl. version. Only korean versions are offered on ebay. The US version H960 will be the one with the most frequency bands...

wolfgart said:
buy korean variant.
Korean variants are always the best choice...
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ahahaah always Korean?

devadip said:
ahahaah always Korean?
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Always korean
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wolfgart said:
Always korean
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Why? I mean what exactly are the benefits of the korean variants? (mine is being shipped to me right now)

OG-Taco said:
Why? I mean what exactly are the benefits of the korean variants? (mine is being shipped to me right now)
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Because korean LG devices are at all another experience compared to all other variants.
You will see by your eyes what i'm tell you
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OG-Taco said:
Why? I mean what exactly are the benefits of the korean variants? (mine is being shipped to me right now)
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There is no benefit. I think he's just making a joke.
Some of that stigma comes from how Samsung phones used to be shipped. They used to make the international phone from an Exynos processor and send the US the Qualcomm processor variant which people deemed worse and slower. Now Samsung sends everybody the Exynos processor.
One thing that still remains a mystery is accessories. The US variant may or may not get the headphones. We don't know yet.

jamor414 said:
There is no benefit. I think he's just making a joke.
Some of that stigma comes from how Samsung phones used to be shipped. They used to make the international phone from an Exynos processor and send the US the Qualcomm processor variant which people deemed worse and slower. Now Samsung sends everybody the Exynos processor.
One thing that still remains a mystery is accessories. The US variant may or may not get the headphones. We don't know yet.
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I saw an unboxing of a pre-release T-mobile variant, and the box lacked headphones unfortunately. I don't know this for fact, but I assume that AT&T will be the same...

No Band 12 on Tmo
I got the F600L (Korean variant) and am getting < 1 Mbps speeds -- always showing 3G HSPA+. This won't do.

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Do you think there'll be Galaxy s II variants in the us?

I dont see the need for galaxy s II variants since the phone has quad band 3g support , but with samsung you never know , hopefully they just put out the original version of the sgs II , variants will slow down updates, what do you think? last time it was a mess with the updates
I hope they will release in us. Otherwise the developer support will be small.
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You can be almost 100% certain there will be US variants, at least to the point of adding in support for their 3G and 4G networks for which the stock doesn't have. Specifically T-Mobile and Verizon will definitely have to add in their bands seeing as how AT&T is ready from the stock device. Now, whether or not the carriers will have to lessen or get rid of any other spec to fit their setup is the big question here. I am really hoping nothing gets changed besides the addition of the extra bands, but I have a feeling that may be aiming a little high.
US carriers always wants to make "their" phones look different just to confuse the heck out of people, and be able to call it "their own"
so yeah, it's almost guaranteed we'll seem some minor changes here and there.
hopefully nothing ugly like what they did with the first release of Galaxy S... missing FFC, missing flash, missing memory, missing hard button, etc
each carrier had something slightly missing
AllGamer said:
US carriers always wants to make "their" phones look different just to confuse the heck out of people, and be able to call it "their own"
so yeah, it's almost guaranteed we'll seem some minor changes here and there.
hopefully nothing ugly like what they did with the first release of Galaxy S... missing FFC, missing flash, missing memory, missing hard button, etc
each carrier had something slightly missing
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t mobile and at & t have NOTHING to change to the original model, verizon and sprint are the ones that need changes because they work with cdma devices, but i would like samsung to stick with the galaxy s II name, it's stupid to confuse the users im guessing sprint will get another version with a keyboard
Chad_Petree said:
t mobile and at & t have NOTHING to change to the original model, verizon and sprint are the ones that need changes because they work with cdma devices, but i would like samsung to stick with the galaxy s II name, it's stupid to confuse the users im guessing sprint will get another version with a keyboard
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T-Mobile must add in support for their AWS bands.
Chad_Petree said:
...i would like samsung to stick with the galaxy s II name...
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Looks like the US variants might already have names...
Can't post a link yet due to post count but just do a google search for "pocketnow galaxy variants" and it should be the first result.
Link To Site
Galaxy Attain, Galaxy Function, Galaxy Within
No idea what carrier gets what but it's looking like 3 carriers will carry this (my guess is the standard, AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon).
open1your1eyes0 said:
Link To Site
Galaxy Attain, Galaxy Function, Galaxy Within
No idea what carrier gets what but it's looking like 3 carriers will carry this (my guess is the standard, AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon).
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Nice. I'm slightly more excited now.
Sure, I believe that there will be SGSII variants in the US however, they will be not be released in the next few months because of the delay for the launch in Europe and Samsung's habit of releasing phones a couple months late in the US. Heck, I don't even know why they do this when our country gave them the most SGS sales out of any country in the world.
There will be at least GSM variant and CDMA variant. But other than that, I wish the carriers won't create fragmentation.
It's very likely the original Galaxy S is Quadband WCDMA supported by hardware. I hear people use 1700 on Captivate and use 850 on Vibrant by mixing modems. GS2 should have at least the same ability.
Just one device for all markets, and ensure our updates
Theres no tegra wif samoled+?
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I don't care. I'm still getting the international one. No more needless bull****.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I don't care. I'm still getting the international one. No more needless bull****.
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My sentiments exactly!
I couldn't care less if they came out with 10 variants. It's the original or nothing for me. No way in the world am I making the same mistake again.
MikeyMike01 said:
I don't care. I'm still getting the international one. No more needless bull****.
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How do u guys differenciate international or country specific
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sianzb0i said:
How do u guys differenciate international or country specific
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I think the model numbers will be different.
The international Exynos version has model number GT-I9100.
There is a high chance tthat they release one here in the US and although I won't like the differentiation or the increased length of time for updates, because of the community here I'm sure I would be able to keepy phone updated wwith a great ROM with the newest firmware.
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amtrakcn said:
There will be at least GSM variant and CDMA variant. But other than that, I wish the carriers won't create fragmentation.
It's very likely the original Galaxy S is Quadband WCDMA supported by hardware. I hear people use 1700 on Captivate and use 850 on Vibrant by mixing modems. GS2 should have at least the same ability.
Just one device for all markets, and ensure our updates
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this is totally incorrect. the chips and antennas are different andyou cannot dothat.. i have had 3 diff sgs and tried..
open1your1eyes0 said:
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Galaxy Attain, Galaxy Function, Galaxy Within
No idea what carrier gets what but it's looking like 3 carriers will carry this (my guess is the standard, AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon).
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nice news, but... OMG! those are some horrible choices for names how do they even come up with those awful names?
Maybe it's their new slogan "Attain function within..."
I too will go for the international version, not sure if Bell will commit to this one considering the SNAFU they had with the SGS.

Want to buy this but afraid of locked BL

I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
Adooda said:
I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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Wait for the carrier unlocked versions European or U.S.) which will be eligible for official bootloader unlock.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3665927
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
Ali Mirza said:
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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I agree. I love the pre-order stuff, but TBH, this one isn't giving much. I don't use vr headsets. I'm gonna wait until the unlocked one comes and get that. I miss root.... Haven't had it since the G4.
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
jcsww said:
I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
EVOme said:
Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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I think he is just being a smart ass, same **** people were doing in the note 8 forums about root on carrier phones.
EVOme said:
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
sic0048 said:
Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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You feel better? Just because I don't need root means I need to go Apple. Great thought processing you have going. KY
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
masri1987 said:
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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Nothing official but more than likely around the middle of November, at least what some sites are hinting towards.
the LG V30 is the most gorgeous phone they've ever made. I like that it doesn't have overly curved sides creating a glare. BUT....I have to have full theming available. The theming out of the box doesn't cut it. I need everything to be black with an accent color of my choosing.
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
NIKKOTUASON said:
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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You mean the 600MHz frequency? LTE BAND 71? The new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band? Not sure why you used the words "network speed".
I'm not speaking for LG, but European carrier unlocked V30 wouldn't need it. What carriers in Europe are using that LTE band? It's not just software, but also hardware (antennas) needed to send/receive that new LTE band.
For instance the South Korea LG V30 model does not have that band.
We have yet to see if the U.S. carrier unlocked version will definitely have it on release. It should, as all the U.S. variants should have the same hardware, with various bands enabled/disabled according to carrier needs. Verizon doesn't need LTE band 71, T-Mobile does.
But it would make sense for LG to basically make the same phone for all of North America, and then enable/disable bands for various carriers.
The "carrier unlocked" version US998 SHOULD have all the U.S./Canada bands enabled. One dept. of T-Mobile said it would, but another said it wouldn't or they didn't know. But LG doesn't need T-Mobile permission to enable that band on a phone T-Mobile is not selling (carrier unlocked version, US998). T-Mobile can't speak for LG.
masri1987 said:
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
RiffyDivine said:
I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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Why did you sent the note 8 back???
Is the best phone out there so far....

128GB or 256GB preorder?

Has anyone found a reliable seller for the S9+ in 128 or 256? Exynos or SD. I don't care.
Vodafone Romania- preordered 256 gb black variant. Check www.vodafone.ro and ask if they do international shipping!
I just ordered my S9+ 256gb black (dual sim) from axiom telecom in UAE. I did order my S8+ from them last year without problem. They ask for a scan of your id and a scan of your credit card. Shipped to France without problem (though Aramex shipping company was not very speedy at delivering). Shipping from UAE is said to happen on March 15 ... and should take 10 days to reach me.
I ended up going with the 128GB UK version from https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus .
Cost me $1,023 but it's way better than a Snapdragon with 64GB for $840. and the price includes 3 day international shipping. Considering they are expecting their 1st shipment on the 8th, I may see mine before release day.
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Has anyone found a reliable seller for the S9+ in 128 or 256? Exynos or SD. I don't care.
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I've bought 3 Galaxy's from this eBay seller. They're in Houston and offer US and International devices with features you can't purchase here in the US. Very competitive pricing and a good return policy. Highly Recommend!
https://www.ebay.com/usr/never-msrp?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
varcor said:
I've bought 3 Galaxy's from this eBay seller. They're in Houston and offer US and International devices with features you can't purchase here in the US. Very competitive pricing and a good return policy. Highly Recommend!
https://www.ebay.com/usr/never-msrp?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
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Those are some seriously good prices. I'd be tempted if I hadn't already bought a 128 exynos S9+ since the SD 256 is on there for the same price.
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Those are some seriously good prices. I'd be tempted if I hadn't already bought a 128 exynos S9+ since the SD 256 is on there for the same price.
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Pardon my ignorance, but are these alternate sources the same as the unlocked phone offered through Samsung's website?
I have never bought a new phone from any seller but one of the big 4 carriers and am just now starting to realize how much better life might be buying this S9+ from someone other than Verizon without all the crapware and the Qualcomm chip. I am aware of the VOLTE concerns, etc. If the standard features work with VZW from some of these overseas sellers I am golden.
The reason I'm even pursuing a source other than Samsung.com is because they don't appear to offer anything but the 64 GB model
you need to get a U3 listed sd card or it wont record 4k video to the card. U1 is too slow
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Pardon my ignorance, but are these alternate sources the same as the unlocked phone offered through Samsung's website?
I have never bought a new phone from any seller but one of the big 4 carriers and am just now starting to realize how much better life might be buying this S9+ from someone other than Verizon without all the crapware and the Qualcomm chip. I am aware of the VOLTE concerns, etc. If the standard features work with VZW from some of these overseas sellers I am golden.
The reason I'm even pursuing a source other than Samsung.com is because they don't appear to offer anything but the 64 GB model
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The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
Clove UK - I have purchased my last three phones there - great people - great service.
international version warranty?
If I get the S9+ international from oversea, will it still have warranty in the US?
sireniankyle said:
The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
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Are you sure?
The S9+ Chinese market device SM-G9650 and SM-G9658 don't list LTE Band 13 to work with Verizon.
That site also shows UK devices with Band 13 which I don't think is correct?
SM-G965FZKDXEU
SM-G965FZVDXEU
Both showing with LTE Bands: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B32(1500), B66(AWS- 3)
That seems to directly contradict what Clove has on their website:
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus
I would take that Tech Walls link with a grain of salt because it seems to contradict what I'm seeing in many other places.
sireniankyle said:
The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
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You can purchase the Exynos variant here, manufactured in Viet Nam.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item56aa30d9fb:m:m0qNQjaZIJ3QM6T6OQZOZjA
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oipunx said:
If I get the S9+ international from oversea, will it still have warranty in the US?
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Nope
Got Black 256GB FD Exynos International unlocked variant
from Saudi Arabia here in Pakistan for 1085 dollars today.
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You can purchase the Exynos variant here, manufactured in Viet Nam.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item56aa30d9fb:m:m0qNQjaZIJ3QM6T6OQZOZjA
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Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
oipunx said:
Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
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not warranty in the US whereas the S9/S9+ coming with exynos ( SM-G960F/SM-G965F-DS) instead of snapdragon 845
The SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 have snapdragon 845, but I don´t know if these comes with CDMA ratio, but it´s very probably that they doesn´t come with US warranty ( also the 128GB and 256GB at this time has not been offered in the official Samsung store yet)
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Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
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You won't get a Factory Warranty however you can purchase a warranty here.
https://www.cpscentral.com/

US Unlocked S9 Plus purchased from Samsung is Single SIM

A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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How about purchase from Best Buy?
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Samsung dual sim unlocked model is usually have FD instead of U or F. There may be carrier dual sim idk.
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
North American markets do not typically carry dual-sim Samsung phones.
shook187 said:
How about purchase from Best Buy?
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Same with Best Buy, Single SIM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-s9-64gb-unlocked-lilac-purple/6191424.p?skuId=6191424
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lucky you for extracting a confirmation from samsung support.
I salute you.
you' re good.
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Yep, it's never easy getting a straight answer from their 500 station call center in India!
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
uzupan said:
Can you post what lte bands the u.s. unlocked version support?
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The US unlocked version will share the same as the previous unlocked devices
https://tinyurl.com/y7xgmtlo
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
cognitivedissonance said:
Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Unlocked SIM
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Wait, unlocked as in unlocked bootloader??
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Now that's funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKI7RIpZFQ
arcanexvi said:
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
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Exactly what I was thinking lol. 99.9% of the US has no idea dual SIM phones are even a thing, and 99.99% have no use for them.* Hardly shady for them to not advertise something that is totally irrelevant here. Hell, I would have been MORE surprised had it actually been dual SIM capable. Are there any CDMA capable phones sold in the US which have dual SIM capabilities? AFAIK the only dual SIM capable phones sold here are things like the OnePlus phones which are one model sold worldwide.
*Obviously they have value to some people, I'm not trying to totally diminish them!
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I feel the same way. If the device wasnt region specific to the US I'd say it would have a fighting chance. Especially if it were India/Asia. I'm not aware of a native CDMA USA device with Dual SIM.
arcanexvi said:
I don't believe dual SIM models have ever been directly sold to the us market. Not sure why this is shady or surprises you.
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Here's why it's shady. Before you pre-order, Samsung's website only provides general features about the device. After you pay, only then can you download or view a Users Manual on Samsung's website. There are many variants with Galaxy devices and you should have the right to know what the features and capabilities are BEFORE you pay for the device.
No, unlocked as in SIM unlocked.
varcor said:
A bit shady as you won't find this detail on Samsung's US website but I've confirmed it with their customer support. Model SM-G965UZPAXAA
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Not sure why you think this is shady. Typically, unless it specifically states Dual SIM, you should always assume it's a single one. The dual ones are not very common in the USA at all so why would the unlocked version be dual?
I could have sworn when I first looked at the specs on the Samsung site before I did a pre-order it listed the device as being Dual SIM. Maybe they just had a generic spec list that included specs for International variants, but I was under the impression that it would be Dual SIM. That might be why the person above thought it would be as well.
heh... not sure why you feel it's shady. Dual sim phones are 90% all the time international models. US models are single sim, unless otherwise specified.

Snapdragon Love Anywhere???

Last Galaxy was S6, jumped ship to iPhone 7S to please the wife, was ecstatic to go back to S9 via T-Mobile aka "Uncarrier".
I was more excited to finally go back to XDA to check the dev scene, but no love for the Snapdragon Varient? I know International aka 960/5F got the unlocked bootloader and usual Day 1 roots.... but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
My T-Mobile S6 Edge was a breeze to root and so many amazing ROMS and Cross-Device Dev too. And that wasn't Exynos either.
Point is, I'm sure I'm not the only one and you guys arent alone out there. I'd love to see how people are enjoying their device, any dis/advantages to our international sibling, and also any tricks they're using to "poweruse" their device.
Cheers
ARey1212 said:
Last Galaxy was S6, jumped ship to iPhone 7S to please the wife, was ecstatic to go back to S9 via T-Mobile aka "Uncarrier".
I was more excited to finally go back to XDA to check the dev scene, but no love for the Snapdragon Varient? I know International aka 960/5F got the unlocked bootloader and usual Day 1 roots.... but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
My T-Mobile S6 Edge was a breeze to root and so many amazing ROMS and Cross-Device Dev too. And that wasn't Exynos either.
Point is, I'm sure I'm not the only one and you guys arent alone out there. I'd love to see how people are enjoying their device, any dis/advantages to our international sibling, and also any tricks they're using to "poweruse" their device.
Cheers
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Edit: For good faith, I'll show how I try to "spruce up" my Galaxy experience with homescreenshots
For the record, all S6 models were Exynos. There were no snapdragon versions.
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Venom0642 said:
Let Me Correct you there's S6 SD , The one that were all Exynos are the Note 5. No SD For Note 5
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If there were any Snapdragon versions they were not in North America. The US carriers were all Exynos. I had the Verizon version and it was most definitely Exynos. They did not want to use the 810 so I am pretty sure there were no Snapdragons anywhere for the S6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S6
nrage23 said:
If there were any Snapdragon versions they were not in North America. The US carriers were all Exynos. I had the Verizon version and it was most definitely Exynos. They did not want to use the 810 so I am pretty sure there were no Snapdragons anywhere for the S6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S6
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Actually you are correct was for some reason thinking S7 lol , cause S6 , S6 Plus and Note 5 were the phones that only have Exynos so my bad
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S9+ using XDA Labs
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Venom0642 said:
Actually you are correct was for some reason thinking S7 lol , cause S6 , S6 Plus and Note 5 were the phones that only have Exynos so my bad
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S9+ using XDA Labs
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No worries.
ARey1212 said:
but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
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Put simply, it's because Samsung has made the S9/S9+ SD variant EXTREMELY tamper-resistant. Old methods to achieve root that worked on, say, the S7 or S8 no longer work.
As far as I know, there's only 1 dev working at it. For now, one can only be patient and see what happens.
Other than that though, it's a solid phone that I am enjoying right out of the box. And for now, there's a working hotspot mod, so that's nice as well.
Root on g9650 Hong Kong version can be achieved (see https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...comm-sm-g9650-hong-kong-china-t3764542/page27). I think nowaday there is no way to unlock bootloader of the us variant.
jygsaw said:
Put simply, it's because Samsung has made the S9/S9+ SD variant EXTREMELY tamper-resistant. Old methods to achieve root that worked on, say, the S7 or S8 no longer work.
As far as I know, there's only 1 dev working at it. For now, one can only be patient and see what happens.
Other than that though, it's a solid phone that I am enjoying right out of the box. And for now, there's a working hotspot mod, so that's nice as well.
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That's typical though, I'd be surprised if Sammy left an old exploit open in a new flagship from an old one
I wouldn't put it past em though, the latest exploits have been pretty easy lol
It's worth noting that the SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 (the non-us unlockable Snapdragon variant s9/s9+ work perfectly on both CDMA and GSM networks in the USA, making it at last a real option for Americans
i'd be happy with the ability to do carrier switching like on the s8/s8+ and note 8
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It's worth noting that the SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 (the non-us unlockable Snapdragon variant s9/s9+ work perfectly on both CDMA and GSM networks in the USA, making it at last a real option for Americans
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I have a dual-sim SM-G9650 (Hong Kong version) and was unable to get it to connect to CDMA in the US. Worked fine for GSM/WCDMA/LTE, but couldn't connect to ANYTHING with a Page Plus/Verizon sim. Tried Hong Kong rom and also Panama rom, and couldn't do it.
Do you have any reports of someone getting a verizon sim working in this model?
duraaraa said:
I have a dual-sim SM-G9650 (Hong Kong version) and was unable to get it to connect to CDMA in the US. Worked fine for GSM/WCDMA/LTE, but couldn't connect to ANYTHING with a Page Plus/Verizon sim. Tried Hong Kong rom and also Panama rom, and couldn't do it.
Do you have any reports of someone getting a verizon sim working in this model?
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Did you ever get it to work on Verizon LTE at least? I see it supports the Verizon LTE bands. I want to get this for the dual SIM. Personal phone is TMO and company is Verizon.

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