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Hi Prime users,
I'm a litte surprised there are no threads about this here.
I'm pleased with the general audio quality - feels a little like force feedback in games
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I am totally irritated by the fact that the audio only comes from the right edge of the Prime. This is really driving my ears crazy.
What about you? Use headphones? External speakers? Got used to it?
I'd just like to know how you think on this one.
Regards,
pintness
It bothers me as well.
I didn't care really.. I agree that it would be better to have speakers like the TF101 (1 on each side).
I love the sound quality, but yeah it is uncomfortable unless you watch videos in portrait mode.
it bothers me a little bit. Mainly when I'm playing back something with sound and I can barely hear it due it's single speaker blowing out from the back.
From a design standpoint, ASUS should have at least included the left speaker on the left-bottom of the Keyboard Dock. It would have made more sense, making the tablet whole with it's keyboard dock accessory than not including no left channel audio at all. But oh well.
in fact it is a stereo speaker
redvirus said:
in fact it is a stereo speaker
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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But... why would Asus do that? I mean, if they put in stereo speakers, why not put them in correct place? This looks like a really poor design decision to me.
If only they would put more effort into function than design...
I have an Acer Iconia A500, which has stereo speaker on the back, too.
General problem with those is that treble sounds aren't reflected well and you can't hear them at all, except when you hold the tablet in that ONE special position and form a cone with your hands.
At first it really bothered me (coming from the TF101) but now I can manage...
The quality IS a whole lot better compared to TF101 though, making up for it. Still really no idea what they were thinking here though.
I agree...weird but it is excellent quality.
I am more bothered by the fact that the speaker faces away from the user instead of towards the user. This means that most of the volume the tablet can put out is wasted unless you have some kind of sound reflector behind the tablet.
I know this is common among thin touchscreen devices, but to me it never stops being a source of minor annoyance.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
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therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
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There are two speakers ... they just are side-by-side under that single perforation.
Lame I know, but ....
What I would have liked is to have the dock have speakers integrated (facing "up") with some separation.
That way, the tab alone could service headphones, but when docked and sitting open, it would have a better stereo experience without headphones.
definitely found it pretty weird for awhile but used to it now.
If I'm on the road, I use my headphones to block out sound and avoid annoying others.
If I'm at home, I'll plug it into my stereo speakers. If I ever use the built-in speaker, it's probably for unimportant stuff that doesn't really require good sound quality.
Never a problem
Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
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This is sort of a tangent, but if you're just holding the Prime and viewing/listening to something yourself, the way you hold the Prime can make a significant difference in how loud it is. The speaker is right at the right hand edge, if you hold it where the speaker is, and sorta cup your hand around the speaker grill, you can direct the sound to reflect off your hand and bounce it towards yourself.
It works surprisingly well and there's no need to install/root or whatever.
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Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
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^ It helps.
Official cover
The thing that annoys me the most is that if you have the official Asus origami cover and use the flat slightly angled fold, it covers the speaker. And yes I agree that having the speaker face away from the user is a bizarre idea.
I found it hard not to cover it when holding in landscape, but once adjusting it actually sounds pretty good.
I think the quality is pretty impressive. Maybe a benefit from B&O working on their laptops.
I've found if you hold it in the right hand landscape mode then with a certain position it reflects the sound so that it appears to come from the left too.
To be honest if watching a film I would probably switch to headphones.
Hey all
Recently started having issues with my headphone jack and was looking to see if ppl had any suggestions. I tried cleaning it (lubricant from radioshack) and while it improved somewhat problem is still there. The issue I have is if I am using a pair of headphones without a mic channel it seems to be to loose and any tap I lose audio and it goes to speaker or the music pauses.
Auxillary cable in the car is extremely sensitive...
Trying to see if anybody has a suggestion before replacing device
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Hey all
Recently started having issues with my headphone jack and was looking to see if ppl had any suggestions. I tried cleaning it (lubricant from radioshack) and while it improved somewhat problem is still there. The issue I have is if I am using a pair of headphones without a mic channel it seems to be to loose and any tap I lose audio and it goes to speaker or the music pauses.
Auxillary cable in the car is extremely sensitive...
Trying to see if anybody has a suggestion before replacing device
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OK first off, from having first hand experience with sensitive electronics, never use lubricant to clean anything. Use isopropyl alcohol. I do also believe that you should think about purchasing a cable with a mic channel, or try wrapping a small piece of aluminum foil around the plug, should be a quick fix. But it does sound like you have a loose solder connection in the headphone jack. Might be something I would look into getting warranty replaced if the isopropyl doesnt work. You can put it on a q-tip and clean it like that. Isopropyl will evaporate and leave absolutley no residue. and its what the military uses to clean electronics.
Do you have a case on? Because one case I have makes mine finiky in my truck but just because the case kind of makes the cable not go allll the way in...without a case mine is fine though
@ cornettbr
should have clarified i didn't spray it directly into the jack - u spray it on the headphone plug part and wipe it down - it basically cleans this and helps clean the contacts - saw it on a youtube video - no actual liquid touches the contacts but in anycase it didn't work
- i tried alcohol also a failure...
@ s10sdeville
yeah regardless of having the case on or off it still does it... really sucks
i know i might sound crazy but i ended up getting a replacement piece for the headphone jack on ebay
took the phone apart yesterday and it is pretty easy (no warranty stickers either - surprised me) - i rather do this than dealing with a refurb have had some personal bad experiences.
Did that work for you?
Sent from a really big phone.
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Did that work for you?
Sent from a really big phone.
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the part isn't going to be in for a couple of days
got the part in today
swapped it and it is good as new - took maybe 20 minutes to do the whole thing
for anyone that is willing to try this in the future remember patience - the most pita part is putting the main board back in without catching ribbon cables on the bottom of it.
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got the part in today
swapped it and it is good as new - took maybe 20 minutes to do the whole thing
for anyone that is willing to try this in the future remember patience - the most pita part is putting the main board back in without catching ribbon cables on the bottom of it.
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Nice. Should have taken some pics and threw up a guide incase someone need it in the future.
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Nice. Should have taken some pics and threw up a guide incase someone need it in the future.
Sent from the dark on a Note 2
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i used a video on youtube from LE55ONS - he had one of the better quality videos on what needed to be done.
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i used a video on youtube from LE55ONS - he had one of the better quality videos on what needed to be done.
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Even better
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I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
I like it better at the bottom. You can play with your phone while listening to music without the cord being in the way.
I always put my phone in my pocket upside down face back. Works perfect with the jack on the bottom
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Yea I hate the Headphone jack at the bottom cause you have to put it in your pocket upside down, but it makes the overall appearance of the phone sexy (hiding all the ports at the bottom. Plus I would assume it helps with keeping junk out. It is also nice, as stated above, that the cord hangs down when in hand without putting stress on the jack.
Anyway just go bluetooth. You're just listening to music, not creating a mobile recording studio. G2 + $15 BT Speaker = Bliss
I'm pretty sure this isn't a DESIGN FLAW since it was actually created this way... on all 23 G2 Variants....
There are Pros and Cons for each way. No real winner. Bottom gets my vote since the Pocket Upright argument is the only reason for it being on the top.
I prefer it at the bottom because my phone goes in my pocket upside down.
I, too prefer it at the bottom. My phone always go in my pocket upside down and it's more convenient for me that way. I wouldn't consider it a design flaw.
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I prefer it at the bottom because my phone goes in my pocket upside down.
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I remember Sammy tried to humiliate Apple because of this. It's really difficult to adjust to new things, but I like rear buttons though. My every device had/have headphone jack at the top. We'll see after a week or two, maybe my opinion will be different.
What wrong with the headphone jack locates in the bottom?
I thought it is perfect and very well-thought.
In fact, placing the jack on the top is just plain stupid.
a. listening music where the phone in the pocket, who care it's upside down or versa?
b. in the car, on the phone holder, using headset, in the bottom. Perfect. Who would want the headset cord hangs around from the top?
c. Jack at the bottom and on way to the left is even better since it has no interfere with phone holder's cradle.
It's well-thought well-made device.
I like the fact that the jack and the charging port are both on the same side, makes much more sense this way, especially if you use your phone in your car and have a dedicated stand for it. No other phone of mine except the Galaxy S had this layout.
I love it.
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I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
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Winudert said:
I remember Sammy tried to humiliate Apple because of this. It's really difficult to adjust to new things, but I like rear buttons though. My every device had/have headphone jack at the top. We'll see after a week or two, maybe my opinion will be different.
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Still waiting for your opinion on why it's a design flaw...
This is definitely not a flaw. Just an opinion. I love it because I can put it upside down in my pocket, so it is a more natural motion when pulling it back out.
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with the buttons on the top back it makes perfect sense to put the headphone jack to the bottom, the phone slides nice in the pocket and the cable doenst get in the way at all. with this orientation it feels also more natural to press the buttons while the phone is in the pocket.
It's a little strange using corded headphones if I have my phone in a stand on my desk, but I picked up the Tone+ BT headset and pretty much exclusively use that now, so it's not much of an issue.
TBH I never thought about putting my phone in my pocket upside-down. If I grab it out of my coat pocket and it's upside-down, I groan a bit.
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Still waiting for your opinion on why it's a design flaw...
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Most MP3 players, like SanDisk Sansa series (Okay, okay, we can forget Apple and iPods), have headphone jack at the top. Sometimes on the side, but not at the bottom. It's tradition. Like gas and brake pedals in the cars. Great analogy, I think. You bought a car and see, that gas and brake pedals are in different position, than normal. Not a design flaw at all from car manufacturer! Innovation! I will try to write with left hand tomorrow too and will blame pencils makers, because I'm in 85% population.
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TBH I never thought about putting my phone in my pocket upside-down. If I grab it out of my coat pocket and it's upside-down, I groan a bit.
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Exact! I'm never putting my phone in my pocket upside down too. In any case, LG G2 will make me to do that.
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Most MP3 players, like SanDisk Sansa series (Okay, okay, we can forget Apple and iPods), have headphone jack at the top. Sometimes on the side, but not at the bottom. It's tradition. Like gas and brake pedals in the cars. Great analogy, I think. You bought a car and see, that gas and brake pedals are in different position, than normal. Not a design flaw at all from car manufacturer! Innovation!
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Those are mp3 players. Put you're phone in you're pocket upside down. Pull it out and put it to you're ear. Is it the right way?
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rquinn19 said:
Those are mp3 players. Put you're phone in you're pocket upside down. Pull it out and put it to you're ear. Is it the right way?
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Read, I've written more. As I said, I will try to write with left hand tomorrow. 15% people doing that.
My point is simple. Sammy devices at the top. HTC One at the top. Sony Xperia Z1 at the top. Even Nokia at the top.
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I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
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your foolishness just brought me to the realization that this forum only has happy smilies available. i was looking for something to shame you with. i did not find what i sought.
Winudert said:
I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
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LG wireless Bluetooth headphones...problem solved.
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That's not a design flaw. That's a personal taste as to where you think the headphone jack should be placed.
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My point is simple. Sammy devices at the top. HTC One at the top. Sony Xperia Z1 at the top. Even Nokia at the top.
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so just because others do something, everybodyelse should do the same?
I like the headphone jack on the bottom, because as mentioned before - you put you phone upside down in your pocket you just take it out and have it in the right position to continue working/operating the phone - no changing of position required.
what i like even more - both the micro-usb port and the headphone jack are on the same side of the phone - that's something I was looking for for a long time now.
if u put your phone in a pocket with the top up. u have to rotate it in your hand.
this way it's perfect. just grab it and unlock
I have not been able to have any calls where the person is able to hear me properly. Is this a lost cause?
The mic works fine, clear and with good volume, on mine. There might be some white sealant clogging up the mic pinhole on yours. There was on mine, but I removed it carefully while cleaning the sim slot. If you are not really careful, you can puncture the seal at the back of the mic pinhole, destroying any hope your watch would have of surviving even a brief immersion, so you have to be really careful !
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Thanks...that is helpful. I seem to have poor quality on phone calls and Google search, but reasonable on the voice record function. What did you clean it with? From the outside or inside (back off)? Any advice was helpful...I was considering puncturing the seal in hopes of improving sound!
That might actually help, but probably is unnecessary and is irreversible. I am glad I did not puncture the seal.
I cleared mine out when I first got it, back really early in February with a sewing needle. I had to clean the sim slot out anyway because the same stuff was spilled or overflowed into it so I couldn't get my T-Mobile micro sim to seat. I cleaned it with a bright light shining into the hole from the outside and did not open the back. I was able to pry out of the pinhole a couple of mm of the white stuff that seemed to be almost completely blocking the pinhole, then I noticed a grayer flat material at the back of the hole and stopped then.
Mic works flawlessly now, still, for all uses. Even my mother can understand me clearly when I use the TrueSmart as a standalone phone w/o headphones (though BT headphones work too). OK Google is as accurate as on my Nexus devices, which is pretty accurate. Good luck, and proceed with caution.
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That might actually help, but probably is unnecessary and is irreversible. I am glad I did not puncture the seal.
I cleared mine out when I first got it, back really early in February with a sewing needle. I had to clean the sim slot out anyway because the same stuff was spilled or overflowed into it so I couldn't get my T-Mobile micro sim to seat. I cleaned it with a bright light shining into the hole from the outside and did not open the back. I was able to pry out of the pinhole a couple of mm of the white stuff that seemed to be almost completely blocking the pinhole, then I noticed a grayer flat material at the back of the hole and stopped then.
Mic works flawlessly now, still, for all uses. Even my mother can understand me clearly when I use the TrueSmart as a standalone phone w/o headphones (though BT headphones work too). OK Google is as accurate as on my Nexus devices, which is pretty accurate. Good luck, and proceed with caution.
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Okay that was miraculous! Followed your suggestion and used a sewing needle to remove any white stuff down the mic hole, and it went from crackly mess to crystal clear call quality just like that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Uh-huh ! Really good. Told you so, Mr. Lokifish !
(You were right about the seal though. I had missed that...)
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umm... you guys are all removing the sealant? half of it? based on Lokifish photo there is maybe 2mm of it. Do you care about "water resistant"? I am not going to use a needle on it... I hope the firmware gets fixed. Thanks all.
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That might actually help, but probably is unnecessary and is irreversible. I am glad I did not puncture the seal.
I cleared mine out when I first got it, back really early in February with a sewing needle. I had to clean the sim slot out anyway because the same stuff was spilled or overflowed into it so I couldn't get my T-Mobile micro sim to seat. I cleaned it with a bright light shining into the hole from the outside and did not open the back. I was able to pry out of the pinhole a couple of mm of the white stuff that seemed to be almost completely blocking the pinhole, then I noticed a grayer flat material at the back of the hole and stopped then.
Mic works flawlessly now, still, for all uses. Even my mother can understand me clearly when I use the TrueSmart as a standalone phone w/o headphones (though BT headphones work too). OK Google is as accurate as on my Nexus devices, which is pretty accurate. Good luck, and proceed with caution.
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What's the "white" stuff you mention. Sealant? I haven't come across any of this on my EU 1/8/2100 version. Is it visible at all from the outside on the mic slot as I don't see it at all. I would adjust it but everyone I've spoken to with my device can hear me perfectly so I probably won't play around with it.
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What's the "white" stuff you mention. Sealant? I haven't come across any of this on my EU 1/8/2100 version. Is it visible at all from the outside on the mic slot as I don't see it at all. I would adjust it but everyone I've spoken to with my device can hear me perfectly so I probably won't play around with it.
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You would see it if you removed the back plate - it is the stuff used to seal where the antennas run through the watch body into the band.
Sometimes the worker assembling a particular TrueSmart got sloppy and the same stuff winds up fouling the sim slot or the mic pinhole or both. If it is blocking the mic pinhole, the audio picked up can sound to someone hearing your voice on a call muffled or garbled. Carefully cleaning out the mic pinhole without damaging the special plastic seal at the very back end of it can immensely improve the mic audio quality.
Since your mic pinhole is clear, there is no reason to stick a needle in there ! Also, your mic seems to be working fine already, which makes sense because its pinhole is not plugged by sloppy assembly work.
If you don't see that the pinhole is blocked inside up to near the surface with white stuff, and your mic is working fine, you don't have this problem that many others do have.
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You would see it if you removed the back plate - it is the stuff used to seal where the antennas run through the watch body into the band.
Sometimes the worker assembling a particular TrueSmart got sloppy and the same stuff winds up fouling the sim slot or the mic pinhole or both. If it is blocking the mic pinhole, the audio picked up can sound to someone hearing your voice on a call muffled or garbled. Carefully cleaning out the mic pinhole without damaging the special plastic seal at the very back end of it can immensely improve the mic audio quality.
Since your mic pinhole is clear, there is no reason to stick a needle in there ! Also, your mic seems to be working fine already, which makes sense because its pinhole is not plugged by sloppy assembly work.
If you don't see that the pinhole is blocked inside up to near the surface with white stuff, and your mic is working fine, you don't have this problem that many others do have.
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I haven't opened up the back yet so was wondering if this was visible from the outside of the watch! Thanks for letting me know what to look for though
Yes, you can see it, if its there, by shining a bright light into that pinhole from the outside, but it's hard to tell if what you are seeing is really the flat plastic seal that is supposed to be there at the very back end, a mm or two inside, or if it is really blocking debris !
You don't want to damage that real seal ! Its all the way through the body at the back, though.
In my case, the misapplied white sealant had pretty nearly filled the pinhole to the outer edge. It came out as a little mm long plug, using a needle and tweezers.YMMV...
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Yeah ok I've definitely got nothing of the sort then from observing the outside. Looks like it's more a QA issue with the build quality. Also I almost had a minor heart attack I scrapped the screen face of my watch along a metal frame. I thought sh*t it's scratched it. Went to look at screen in the light NOTHING. Still perfect so I'm glad to report the Sapphire Glass does it's job. Haven't worn a watch in years I got to remember not to walk too close to walls etc! :silly:
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The mic works fine, clear and with good volume, on mine. There might be some white sealant clogging up the mic pinhole on yours. There was on mine, but I removed it carefully while cleaning the sim slot. If you are not really careful, you can puncture the seal at the back of the mic pinhole, destroying any hope your watch would have of surviving even a brief immersion, so you have to be really careful !
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Thanks trent999, after cleaning out the mic pinhole on my truesmart the mic actually works pretty good now.:good:
The Omate Truesmart project in theory was a terrific idea, and had it implemented, marketed, produced under quality control, and supported the product I believe it could have been the beginning of good things to come for Omate.
But instead Omate simply bungled badly their first project to the point I think it's reputation is so damaged Omate will simply fade into the sunset. Such a shame.
Had it not been for the support of all the individual xda developers hours of thankless support of this device most of the truesmarts would be now residing in landfills.
Again thanks trent999 and a BIG SHOUT OUT THANK YOU to everyone at xda who supported this project.
Hello if there is anyone out there who can help I recently switched out my screen on my lgv30+ ls998 and for some reason my loud speaker doesn't work. I've ordered another one off ebay and that one didn't work either. Not sure what's going on. The pins look like they are touching the correct places.
I'm not sure how relevant it is, but when putting the ZTE Axon 7 back together I put in the speaker backwards (really hard to tell) and it (obviously) didn't work. Screw around with the orientation and see if things change?
The LG v30 has a contact pin situation with almost all of the hardware components including the speakers which makes it easy to put in and out. I just can't understand y the speaker isn't working out of all things. I tried to finesse the placement of the pins a little but still nothing. I just keep getting an extremely faint crackling noise from it
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The LG v30 has a contact pin situation with almost all of the hardware components including the speakers which makes it easy to put in and out. I just can't understand y the speaker isn't working out of all things. I tried to finesse the placement of the pins a little but still nothing. I just keep getting an extremely faint crackling noise from it
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Did you ever find a solution to this issue?
I replaced the screen and frame on my LG V30 a couple of days ago and I am having the exact same problem.