Hi guys. I'm currently using Tctien342's sAOSP Project Rom. Using AT&T's data network in the US, on the signal indicator, it says I'm on the 3G data connection. On the stock MIUI rom, it indicates if I'm on 3G or HSPA+ data network.
I know that HSPA+ is the same as 3G, but is there a way I can have the indicator differentiate 3G or HSPA+ connection?
HSPA+ is different to 3G... HSPA+ is faster than 3G and as fast as the slowest frquencities of LTE
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HSPA+(Evolved High-Speed Packet Access)
HSPA+ is an evolution HSPA(HSDPA&HSUPA). It is a 4G technology that allows download at a rate of up to 168Mbps.
4G LTE(Long Term Evolution)
LTE is a 4G communication standard that supports HD video streaming, download speed as high as 299.6Mbps
Okay. So there is a difference between the two networks. But what I'm wondering is do the AOSP roms indicate whether I'm on 3G or HSPA+ network?
They actually do, when you are on 3G it shows you "3G", when you are on HSPA it shows you " H", and when you are on HSPA+ it shows you "H+". You will normally be on 3G or H, H+ is tipically used only for data, so if you have it turned off you wont see that plus. It deppends on your carrier too and its bands that uses for data and calls
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Alright XDA I just got off the phone with Tmobile Android Tech Support and they mentioned that the Vibrant is compatible with the new 4g network that is mid rollout but the phone has to be rooted (done) and new firmware installed (also done, thanks Bionix). Any ideas on how to turn that little feature on?
Wrong section...lol
Anyway, its an automatic thing. The only way you'll see if you are in HSPA+ instead of reg 3G is if you have a Froyo ROM loaded. The only phone (out the box) so far that shows the H is the G2
They're talking about the HSPA+ and our phones aren't capable of HSPA+. They do have HSPA 7.2, so you will see an increase of speed but not the full HSPA+ speeds of the network.
I think someone telling you you stories.
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dav3wash said:
Wrong section...lol
Anyway, its an automatic thing. The only way you'll see if you are in HSPA+ instead of reg 3G is if you have a Froyo ROM loaded. The only phone (out the box) so far that shows the H is the G2
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You can also download mobile signal widget from the market. I have it on my vibrant. It shows E, G, 3g, and H, so even though the phone itself won't show it, the widget does. I myself am getting good speeds with my vibrant. I have hit 6.3 mbs down and 1.6 up sitting at my desk at work.
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would a tmobile rep really tell you that your phone has to be rooted?
Vibrant does not have HSPA+ you get some speed pump if network in your area are HSPA+ but not full 4G speed.
There is some confusion on how T-Mobile is marketing this upgrade. What they are trying to explain is that because the HSPA+ and the HSPA network share resources, that when the serving cell site is upgraded to the fast 50 mbps backhaul fiber for HSPA+ that the HSPA phones like the vibrant will have a faster backhaul connection and should run at much closer to the 7.2 mbps theoretical throughput. Some curernt 3G sites are running at 2 T1's currently which limits your data throughput to 3 mbps due to the backhaul connection. When the site get upgraded to HSPA+ it still has the same 2 T1's but they add an additional fiber connection that is 25 mbps to 50 mbps depending on the providers capabilities.
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You can also download mobile signal widget from the market. I have it on my vibrant. It shows E, G, 3g, and H, so even though the phone itself won't show it, the widget does. I myself am getting good speeds with my vibrant. I have hit 6.3 mbs down and 1.6 up sitting at my desk at work.
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What's the name of the app?
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What I am happy about is that T-Mobile has decided to stop being so damn scared and is actually advertising it as 4G. True, the technology is based on 3G, but the data speeds are actually better than the current 4G implementations. Verizon and sprint did this with their current 3G CDMA networks. When they first launched EVDO it didn't meet the 2mbps required by the 3G standards. That didn't stop them from marketing it as 3G though and eventually the technology caught up.
And the HSPA+ network is not tapped out either. We could soon see 42 mbps on a HSPA+ network.
I will welcome the day when they stop with all the marketing BS and just advertise the prices and speeds. ill take 21 mbps 3G over 6mbps 4G any day.
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What's the name of the app?
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Nevermind I reread your post
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wj04 said:
Alright XDA I just got off the phone with Tmobile Android Tech Support and they mentioned that the Vibrant is compatible with the new 4g network that is mid rollout but the phone has to be rooted (done) and new firmware installed (also done, thanks Bionix). Any ideas on how to turn that little feature on?
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As some of the other posters have noted, you were slightly misinformed. T-Mobile's "4G" network is really HSPA+. The Vibrant does not support HSPA+: you cannot get "4G" on the Vibrant because its hardware is not compatible.
However, in those markets that get HSPA+, the regular HSPA speeds should increase—to take advantage of this you do not need to do anything, your phone will automatically handle it for you. The Android version on your device has nothing to do with being able to handle the speed increase.
Some ROMs change the network indicator in the notification bar to show when you are connected to a HSPA network (H) as opposed to a UMTS (3G) one. If you feel that you ought to be getting HSPA network connections, but your phone is only showing "3G", you can verify this yourself by going to "Settings > About phone > Status": there is an entry there that says "Mobile network type", and this will either say GPRS, EDGE, UMTS or HSPA.
Further, why are questions being asking in a development forum? Will a mod please move this to the appropriate location, and will people please start paying attention and posting their questions in the proper location.
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What's the name of the app?
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uh....he said it's called MOBILE SIGNAL WIDGET just search that on the market...lol
They Said It Will Only "Boost" The Internet Speed On Our Phones,
my Roommate has a T-Mobile HTC HD 2 rooted with CM6 and in Orlando, FL he gets the "H" hspa+ and very very fast.
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my Roommate has a T-Mobile HTC HD 2 rooted with CM6 and in Orlando, FL he gets the "H" hspa+ and very very fast.
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The "H" is for HSPA. It doesn't matter if it's "plus" or not. The HD2 is capable of HSPA 7.2 3G speeds, not HSPA+ 3G 4G speeds, but since HSPA+ is simply and upgrade to the existing HSPA 7.2, then not only will HSPA 7.2 phones (like the HD2 and all current T-Mobile Android phones) work on HSPA+ networks, but they will perform closer to the 7.2Mbps maximum possible download speed of HSPA 7.2 technology. However, they will not reach the higher speeds that are possible with phones designed for HSPA+ like the G2.
Short answers:
-Does the Vibrant work on T-Mobile's "4G network" (HSPA+)?
Yes
-Does the Vibrant get better speeds on "4G" than on 3G?
Yes
-Can the Vibrant take full advantage of T-Mobile's "4G data" and achieve speeds beyond what is possible on 3G (HSPA 7.2)?
No
Just want to point out that its hsDpa and hspa+. Hsdpa is up to 7.2, hspa+ is up to 21. None of the t mobile phones tell you which you are on, because it doesn't matter unless you are on a g2 (which still doesn't tell you, just says H either way). It would be nice to know, but a quick speed test will always make it obvious. If your getting over 1.5 down (tmobile 3g max) your on hsdpa.
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Just want to point out that its hsDpa and hspa+. Hsdpa is up to 7.2, hspa+ is up to 21. None of the t mobile phones tell you which you are on, because it doesn't matter unless you are on a g2 (which still doesn't tell you, just says H either way). It would be nice to know, but a quick speed test will always make it obvious. If your getting over 1.5 down (tmobile 3g max) your on hsdpa.
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HSPA is a term used to cover both HSDPA and HSUPA. The "D" is for "download" and the "U" is for "upload". When we're talking about network speeds like 7.2 vs 21, we're usually only talking about download speeds, so strictly speaking we've only been talking about HSDPA for both 7.2 and +.
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HSPA is a term used to cover both HSDPA and HSUPA. The "D" is for "download" and the "U" is for "upload". When we're talking about network speeds like 7.2 vs 21, we're usually only talking about download speeds, so strictly speaking we've only been talking about HSDPA for both 7.2 and +.
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Mostly true. HSPA (High-Speed Packet Access) does consist of both HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) and HSUPA (High-Speed Uplink Packet Access). HSDPA allows for 7.2 Mbps downstream on T-Mobile's US network, although HSDPA can accommodate speeds as high as 14.0 Mbps. HSUPA allows for upstream speeds up to 5.7 Mbps.
Originally, most carriers started with HSDPA, while maintaining the original 384 kbps speeds on the upstream of 3G. For this reason there was a difference between HSDPA and HSPA: HSDPA was used for received faster downloads but still receiving the lower 384 kbps upstream speed; HSPA was used for when the handset was received HSDPA speeds downstream and HSUPA speeds on the upstream.
HSPA+ (Evolved High-Speed Packet Access) allows for up to 56 Mbps downstream and 22 Mbps upstream. T-Mobiles "4G" HSPA+ network is only getting 22 Mbps downstream at present, but it is possible that this could increase.
True 4G service means that 100 Mbps or greater is possible downstream. Sprint's WiMax "4G" network is not true 4G either: it is only rated at 40 Mbps at present, although theoretically it can achieve 1 Gbps.
However, all of this is moot, since the Vibrant (like all other SGS devices at present) does not have a HSPA+ radio, and therefore can only reach a maximum 14.0 Mbps downstream, and 5.7 Mbps upstream. Also, this really does belong in either General or Q&A.
Hi
I have the Galaxy S2, when I turn on the use packet data and data roaming in the mobile network settings, an icon H+ starts flashing on the top of the display with two little arrows.
1. What does it mean? Is the phone downloading data from the cellular network?
2. What is: packet data and data roaming? What's the difference between the two?
Many Thanks.
Hi,
The icon itself means that you are connected to the data network of your cellular provider.
The icon can look like one of the following:
G - 2nd (or 2.5) generation connection
3G - 3rd generation coonection
H - 3.5 generation connection
H+ - 4th generation connection. This does not mean your provider actually support 4th generation data rates.
When the little arrows are gray - No data is being sent/received. When they are colored it means your phone is sending/receiving data.
Roaming means that you are connected to a "foreign" cellular provider (not the one you are paying to).
Data roaming means that you allow your phone to use data connection when you are roaming.
Using data connection while roaming is extremely expensive and it is highly recommended not to do so.
Hope I got it all covered for you
Data conection
Thank you for clearing this for me.
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Hi
I have the Galaxy S2, when I turn on the use packet data and data roaming in the mobile network settings, an icon H+ starts flashing on the top of the display with two little arrows.
1. What does it mean? Is the phone downloading data from the cellular network?
2. What is: packet data and data roaming? What's the difference between the two?
Many Thanks.
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well I did my digging and got some more accurate figures in addition to the above
G is GPRS 86kbps
E is EDGE 236kbps
3G is UMTS 386kbps
H is HSDPA 3.2Mbps
H+ is HSPA 7.2Mbps
H+ is too for HSPA+ for 14.4Mbps or 21.1Mbps
(noteH and H+ are the so called 3.5G
and the new comer:
4G ( LTE technology) is 100-300 Mbps ( the iphone5 is said to be on 100Mbps)
some phones don't show H or H+ , they just show 3G for UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA, HSPA+
only G or E means it's on 2G, - that is you are not in 3G coverage
PS on my Vodafone, using speedtest.net app i get on H+ 7.12 Mbps... ( aka 0.89 MB/s)
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Slackflash said:
well I did my digging and got some more accurate figures in addition to the above
G is GPRS 86kbps
E is EDGE 236kbps
3G is UMTS 386kbps
H is HSDPA 3.2Mbps
H+ is HSPA 7.2Mbps
H+ is too for HSPA+ for 14.4Mbps or 21.1Mbps
(noteH and H+ are the so called 3.5G
and the new comer:
4G ( LTE technology) is 100-300 Mbps ( the iphone5 is said to be on 100Mbps)
some phones don't show H or H+ , they just show 3G for UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA, HSPA+
only G or E means it's on 2G, - that is you are not in 3G coverage
PS on my Vodafone, using speedtest.net app i get on H+ 7.12 Mbps... ( aka 0.89 MB/s)
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Is there a different icon for DC-HSDPA, or is it 'lumped' into H+?
The standard should theoretically allow up to 84Mbps with MIMO, but my phone only supports up to 42Mbps.
KPN in NL has it rolled out, but I've never been able to confirm if I'm on DC-HSDPA. Using Network Signal Info android app, the fastest I've connected is HSPA+ at 21.6Mbps.
hello seniors, please someone help my phone e120l network not connect to "H" only G/3G connected..how to fix this problem? im already updated to 4.1.2 jelly bean rooted+cwm recovery..
It depends on your area/city/carrier
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hamba9551 said:
hello seniors, please someone help my phone e120l network not connect to "H" only G/3G connected..how to fix this problem? im already updated to 4.1.2 jelly bean rooted+cwm recovery..
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Did you connect with stock installed firmware to H or not?
Before this im using rooted rom from Vietnam dev.. Its enabled H on my status bar.. But after a month using thus phone there is no H available.. After that i reflash stock rom then 3G came out from status bar.. No H anymore.. Download speed also decreased via 3G..
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change your modem.
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Got my AT&T Galaxy Note a few days back and I live in Mission Viejo, CA. I have noticed that most of the time it just displays the 4G icon and other times it has a small LTE under the 4G icon. So... is there such a thing as 4G and 4G LTE?
New to the whole 4G phones... as I came from an iPhone.
When it says 4g your are on on At&ts hspa+ network. If it say 4g and has under it Lte you're in a Lte area.
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Yes, LTE is LTE, otherwise it's HSPA+ (also considered "4G"). When mine shows LTE (which is only when I assume the Fox viewing position) I drop by a couple of bars. Sounds like you are either in a fringe area like me, or you're in a building that is causing LTE signal degradation.
What's a Bieber?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS9sUm5Y0sg
In addition, if you go Settings > About Phone > Status > "Mobile Network Type" you can also tell what network you are on.
Think I got it. So HSPA is 3G, HSPA+ is 4G and LTE is a better 4G?
technically hspa is 3g hspa+ is 3.5g lte is 4g.
HSPA+ is pseudo 4g- it's really 3.5G with some backend modifications by att(something called enhanced backhaul) to enhance 3G for faster speeds. LTE is tru 4G.
Here is a link to explain the differences in 3G,4G,and LTE.
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB115951&cv=820#fbid=U9S_RXqCY_R
Is there HSPA+ throughout all of AT&T's network then, just not LTE yet?
Then I am guessing my iPhone 4 was only HSPA (3G) only and not capable of getting HSPA+?
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In addition, if you go Settings > About Phone > Status > "Mobile Network Type" you can also tell what network you are on.
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Hell mine keeps alternating between UMTS and HSPA, no + after it either.
No wonder I get choppy pixelated HD videos on youtube.
Hi
I was wondering if galaxy i9300 did support some kind of 4g network ?
on the box says it can get 20mbs speed. 3g can't get that speed?
Does anybody know more about this?
i forgot
Im confused about this 3g 4g and lte and blah blah blah
It Supports HSPA+ up to 21mbps. It does not support DC-HSPA or LTE. The i9305 Supports LTE.
The term 4g doesn't really mean much tbh. The technical standard for 4g is 1Gbps which is ridiculous and nothing comes near that.
In the US, they call LTE and WiMAX 4g.
DC-HSPA that three UK are rolling out now is 42mbps which is twice EE's LTE speed
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As stated, i9300 only supports Hspa+ up to 21mbit/second. Some people call this '3.5G' or '3.75G' as it exceeds previous speeds that capped on smartphones that are marketed as 3G (like i9000 which supports only up to 7.2mbps).For comparison, typical LTE speeds are 100mbits/second. There is, however this talk of LTE-A which should be able to break this threshold and get speeds like 500mbits/second
21Mbps is the theoretical maximum for hspa+ ni one will get it, but in strict laboratory conditions it's possible (sat next to the transmitter, ideal conditions and when the planets correctly align.
4g is just 4th generation mobile signals, 1g was the original used in the late 80s designed for calls only, no data, 2g is edge and gprs it can handle data but it's not ideal, 3g is 3g, hsdpa and hspa+ (some refer to the latter as 3.5g) which offers acceptable data speeds, it's the first standard to be designed around data and 4g is LTE and WiMax, WiMax is virtually obsolete already, a lot of US carriers have now moved from WiMax to LTE. 4g offers a theoretical maximum speed of 1Gbps but you will probably get 100Mbps and less.
Also the GT-I9300 does not support 4g, however of you have the GT-I9305 it will support 4g (check model number under about phone)
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I9300 supports HSPA+ sometimes referred to as 3.5G . faster than 3 G on average but slower than LTE some carriers such as t-mobile will call it $G. The ATT motorola atrix in the usa is called atrix 4G . the high end for that phone is about 12 mbits whereas I9300 is 21mbits
I'm new to using Tmobile an just not sure if I'm getting all the connections that i should with my mega. I'm using the unlocked canadian mega the 527M model
in the area around my house i get LTE so i see the LTE icon and i also sometimes will see H+ i know both of these are high speed connections.
however, other than this when i get in a non LTE area i only ever see an E icon and the speed is so insanely slow i would describe it as near what i would get on sprint as 1x speeds.
I've also a few times seen just a G icon which i have no idea what it means.
i have never seen a 3G icon and i am thinking that i should definitely at least be getting 3g speeds in many of the non LTE areas and the tmobile coverage map says this as well but the speeds are so slow in these areas there is no way they are 3g. we are talking way under a meg like 150kbs
i don't know if my APN settings could be improved or if there is even a problem but the symbols i see in the areas i see them seem wrong.
G is GPRS, E is EDGE both dial up speeds. H and H+ are 3g speeds. H+ was marketed as "4G". LTE is true 4g. If your getting any connection your APN is fine. Depending on the bands that your mega supports you can check tmobiles coverage map or this crowd source map for the 1900mhz band http://www.airportal.de/
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