motorola Citrus need help - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

so let me tell you a story that took place a long time ago in a place not so far away.
in the area of 5 years ago, i think, the magical fatman, before he was magical, rooted his motorola citrus and did so perfectly. in doing so he got cocky and thought he could delete any thing could he wanted bet android felt how was being defaced and quit working to protect herself. the fatman did a factory reset thinking it would force android to return to her former self but forgot that he read not to. so even now 5 years later i sit still looking for a flashable rom for my friend. i can not give up on technology, and it is time to ask for help. the phone will do everything up to the click the android screen.

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F this phone!!!

Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
jpp44345 said:
Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
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Htc has great build quality. You'll be pleased. Later!
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My mom has the Incredible 2, first thing I said before we got root for our phone when we were still on 2.2 that here phone was significantly faster/smoother than mine!
Ummm Ok? Gotta love these teenage drama OMG FU (insert latest life disappointment) threads. Grow up! Its a phone and you knew what you were getting when you bought it. You got several options. Leave, Develop or Wait (patiently like the majority here). You seem to have choose the first so take care.
jpp44345 said:
Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
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Did you -REALLY- think the X2 was going to get an unlocked bootloader? Seriously they announced they will unlock (future ones in development) but never ever said they would do anything for devices in production.. If you did, then you bought the wrong phone and stop putting the blame on Motorola. As for the phone, I have been pleased, works well, fast..
My only gripe was it was released with Froyo, had no front facing camera, and was 3g instead of 4g.. I do hope someone figures out how to unlock it, but I'm not "Waiting for Moto to Unlock" because I expect them NOT to..
So good for you, you now should go buy a phone that you'll like more.. Now that months and months have gone by there are some really good ones out there (for a price)..
I don't blame you for leaving the X2 it's a POS because of Motorola. Learn the lesson don't buy from them again. Good luck on your next phone.
Actually the ATRIX is an insane phone so moto isn't a pos. Eventually they will give in.
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davwman said:
Actually the ATRIX is an insane phone so moto isn't a pos. Eventually they will give in.
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Eventually. That time frame doesn't suit anyone.
my x2 has run great the entire time i've had the phone, it was pretty laggy in froyo but compared to the froyo on my old lg ally the x2 screams. and gingerbread made it way quicker. 2.3.4 improved everything for me including battery life. i want the bootloader unlocked as bad as anyone else but, i think it will happen eventually, i'm stick'n with my phone and my current contract because i've got an unlimited plan for another 14 months or so, i'm sure as hell not throwing that away just for an unlocked bootloader.
It is not just until the end of your contract, every time you renew you keep your original terms. I know this because I was the one who upgraded my moms phone as she is on my plan. I am eligible for upgrade as of yesterday, specifically asked the rep from Verizon and they told me I still keep it. But, I don't like the Bionic, so I will wait
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It is not just until the end of your contract, every time you renew you keep your original terms. I know this because I was the one who upgraded my moms phone as she is on my plan. I am eligible for upgrade as of yesterday, specifically asked the rep from Verizon and they told me I still keep it. But, I don't like the Bionic, so I will wait
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The prime and vigor are looking mighty awesome.
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Not to mention 4G goes hot here in the "Michiana" (Mishawaka, South Bend, Osceola, Granger, Goshen, Elkhart, Middlebury, Niles, Edwardsburg, Notre Lame, Roseland) metro area a week from today
Lol I said the same thing to the x2 in the end. Stock touchwiz out performs the x2 regardless of the roms and scripts.
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Not the stock touchwiz on my fascinate.
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jpp44345 said:
Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
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Bye! Don't let the door hit you in the butt on way out! And by the way it is just now late 2011...did you expect something right at the beginning of the 4 th quarter of the year? That's crazy!(well believing moto would do it at all is crazy)
So I was sitting in my Jeep after coming back from getting pizza a minute ago and noticed that my phone was frozen when tried to change songs. I would press the honme button, nothing, press the back button, nothing. Then the screen would go black but not off. I could still put the phone to sleep by pushing the power button and the lock screen would still work when I would wake it up. but after being woken up the screen was still black. Now I removed and reinserted the battery and when it boots up it has no signal, doesnt seem to be activated, just the flashing triangle where the 3g symbol would be. Normally restarting the phone would fix the flashing triangle issue and 3g would work again but its starting to take more and more restarts to get that to work correctly.
So I found myself saying F* this phone. I have never had a phone that needed so many scripts and edits to get to work properly, this is the worst phone ever.
If the phone works properly WITH the scripts it is not the phone that is the problem.
Don't hate the phone. It's common knowledge that Motorola has their bootloades locked on the majority of their devices. Do some Google searches before making a decision, especially if you plan on modding/rooting your phone. You still turned out better than I did. My first android was the Sanyo Zio. TERRIBLE!!! So I gave it to my kid as a portable gaming device and cancelled service. Then I researched and bought the NS4G, and I love it!
booked said:
So I was sitting in my Jeep after coming back from getting pizza a minute ago and noticed that my phone was frozen when tried to change songs. I would press the honme button, nothing, press the back button, nothing. Then the screen would go black but not off. I could still put the phone to sleep by pushing the power button and the lock screen would still work when I would wake it up. but after being woken up the screen was still black. Now I removed and reinserted the battery and when it boots up it has no signal, doesnt seem to be activated, just the flashing triangle where the 3g symbol would be. Normally restarting the phone would fix the flashing triangle issue and 3g would work again but its starting to take more and more restarts to get that to work correctly.
So I found myself saying F* this phone. I have never had a phone that needed so many scripts and edits to get to work properly, this is the worst phone ever.
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I just wanted to send out a big thank you to all the guys working hard to make this phone better. But sadly for me it is just not enough to keep me with android any longer. I have had enough of the **** android devices that are just completely unfinished before releasing. I hope they get their **** together and make some wonderful devices. I would never have thought that I'd be tapa talkin from an iPhone but Motorola htc and Samsung have pushed me to try one. I am so surprised at how well it works that I often wonder why I ever thought these were a pos. not trying to convert anyone at all just stating my personal surprise on the matter. Again thanks to everyone for making my experience at least tolerable for a while.
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Full moon tonight or something?

I'm a flashaholic

My name is AGiLiT and I'm a flashaholic.
It's been 10 days since my last flash; which was the day I took my beloved overclocked, themed, custom ROM'ed, custom kerneled EVO Shift back to stock in order to exercise my upgrade option.
My one year anniversary with my Speedy had just passed a few days before. I'd been debating whether to take advantage of the last time I'd be able to invoke the one-year anniversary update with Sprint sooner rather than later. I had really been missing the world phone capabilities I had with my Blackberry (pre-Hero, pre-Shift) and have some international travel coming up so the immediate need was there. On the other hand, the draw of LTE later this year is also enticing. Living in Houston, I've had spotty luck with 4G, but at least it's there and we will be getting LTE.
The stars aligned and BestBuy came out with a price on the Motorola Photon of $49 last week; on top of which they're giving away a $50 gift card, so basically the phone was free. On top of that, when I got the Shift last year, they were just introducing the Buy Back program and giving that away for free. I paid $99 for the Shift, so I figured I was getting $40 back. Lo and behold, the program pays back on the list price of the phone, so basically I got a free phone plus a$220 gift card for the buy back!
I immediately started hanging out in the Photon phorums. But it was like I had already traveled to another country where I knew a few phrases, but I really couldn't understand even half of what anyone was saying. SBF's; RSD; unlocking, pudding; docking; ...
I started experiencing the DTs as I cruised the forums late at night and into the early morning hours. I was barely functioning at work - waiting to at least get my phone rooted so I could get to all my apps sitting in my Titanium backup (more than 70; and obviously all essential; no?)
Four days later, I finally managed to get rooted with the AIO method. That offered some relief, but still nothing like the rush that comes from a good stiff flash. I was still desparate. Unlock; relock; what would be the effect? What ROM? What kernel?
A week later, I was still stock. And I started to realize that the pain was starting to diminish. I was finding that I was still able to function while stock. I was finding more time to spend with my friends and family. It's true that I still hang out in the phorums; probably almost as much as I used to, and the buzz is definitely not there, but at least I still can share in the comraderie that goes on in here.
So, I've made the conscious decision to try to stay clean and stock; realizing that this is will be an ongoing challenge. Will I ever fall off the wagon? Who can say. Seeing an Ice Cream Sandwich out there in the open and knowing that it will be months before I can have a taste is straining my willpower.
I haven't found any flashaholic anonymous meetings yet, so I hope you all won't mind me sharing here. I only ask that when you run across any of us flashaholics, you realize that we are people just like you; we just are trying to face our demons, one day at a time.
Agilit, I to am a flashaholic. Oh sure it starts out innocent enough, root, then maybe a battery mod, or speed tweak. Then the next thing you know, your staying up all night flashing oc kernels, the newest version of ics, or what have you. Now the wife gets no attention, she leave and dog goes hungry. No rom is ever perfect enough. There's always something better. If you go too long without flashing, you start have imaginary problems with your phone just to justify flashing something else. Ahhh .... I'm here for ya man.
Damn it, I wonder now if I am flashaholic too . I constantly check xda if there is some new room or improvment for my phone,I even published my modification of some costum rom. I flash my phone for "testing" purposes more than once a week,some times even couple of time in one day . Lets keep our phone clean for a while and reduce our flashing!
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qzem said:
Damn it, I wonder now if I am flashaholic too . I constantly check xda if there is some new room or impeovment for my phone,I even published my mosification of some costum rom. I flash my phone fir testinf purposes more than once a week,some times even couple of time in one day . Lets keep our phone clean for a while and reduce our flashing!
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No doubt, my friend; you are a flashaholic. Recognition is the first step to recovery, though.

is the beta cm7 stable enough to be used frequently?

So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
CM7 is very stable. As for it being "beta" cyanogen won't support it so until DZK figures a way to get around the bootloader it will keep the "beta" label.
Regarding the problems your having with your phone it sounds like it could be just that, problems with the phone, not the ROM. Eclipse and CM7 are the two most stable ROM's we have available and should not be the source of the kind of problems you describe.
And lastly remember CM7 runs on 2.3.4, it will give you fits if you try flashing it on 2.3.5.
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CM7 is quicker and more stable than any of the blur-based roms ever were on my phone, and all of them had a really irritating issue with bluetooth volume that CM7 fixed. I've been running on the same flash of beta 1 since January.
thanks for the replies guys, guess ill just flash cm7, and if I still have the same problems I can go talk to a verizon rep and see if I can get a replacement or somthing =/
this is actually making me laugh the stupid **** it's doing right now, I press play on a song, and the screen starts distorting, i exit and 90 seconds later the song starts playing, but then it pauses and the phone gets hot all of a sudden
how do you manage to **** up a phone this badly I just don't understand(I have owned this since 2011 may, it can't be a phone problem it just started happening 2-3 months ago)
Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Oh please. The droid x2 is one of the WORST developed android phones out right now. Not only that, the issues I have had with it came LONG before I actually "threw" it. Obviously I didn't baseball throw it into a concrete wall, but it wasn't even close enough to do damage. Verizon should send me a replacement because motorola has created a pretty pathetic excuse for a phone, or because I received a defective phone. Like I said, these issues have been going for FOREVER, and this phone in general has had issues since its release.
The phone isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. You would think that we got a brick in A box. But cm7 is very stable and works well for DD.
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I agree that the Droid X2 isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Any problems you have is either a defective phone or you flashed something the wrong way. Almost everyone who have these ROMs on their phones have no problems. So instead of blaming the phone and calling it crap, let us help you fix it.
First of all, as was mentioned already, CM7 and Eclipse are two of the most stable ROMs for this phone. Liberty was just a quick port and has not had any updates since its release. Honestly, I dont know why people still use it. The problem with Eclipse is that it is on a different kernel than every other ROM we have. So if you went from liberty to eclipse without changing the kernel to 2.3.5 first, you will experience problems. Did you install Eclipse by using the 2.3.5 SBF file first?
Or if you want the best of both world's I have eclipse 1.3. It runs on 2.3.4 kernel. These phones do get hot. What do you mean by overheat? Does it shut down or just feel hot?
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Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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RoyJ said:
Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
If you are going to take your phone into Verizon, follow these instructions to get your phone back to stock. This will remove root and make it like you just bought your phone. Who knows, maybe it will fix the problems you have as well. Try it out and if your issues continue, take it in.
morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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**** run aokp on this phone and tell me if u dont like it
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morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senseless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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To this day I still don't know. Maybe user error, but I think it is tempermental. I literally had to wipe the hell out of it before I could flash the first rom. At one point I wiped everything so many times, I really thought it was over. But all of a sudden it decided to work and hasn't missed a beat since. Now, I don't wipe anything on it anymore. It runs like a sewing machine.
CM7 is still rockin' on 2 of the X2's that I loaded and themed out.
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So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
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As far as overheating is concerned you may want to look at adobe flash. Using the latest version caused issues for me and I gave had to revert back to a previous version. As others have mentioned going with CM7 or eclipse will make a huge difference. I have had 3 other smartphones with vzw and this was the best one so far.
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RoyJ said:
Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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ah ok, yeah I know how to SBF, so I will most likely do that and go to the verizon store to see what's up
if they offer me a replacement phone, I guess ill just ask them to give me a few days to make a decision so I can do research and find out if I am getting ripped off or not
thanks for all the replies guys, I know I come off as kind of an ass(ill be honest im pretty douchey) but this phone has transformed me into something T_T
cm7 is a good rom. Fast too! Since it is still based on the 2.3.4 kernel it has the orientation sensor bug too though.
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Has anybody ever really "bricked" their Device? Whats your definition of "Bricked"?

Has anybody ever really "bricked" their Device? Whats your definition of "Bricked"?
I asked because I hear this a lot and i hear just as much if i that if it hows any life at all, it can be saved. ( i fully agree). and also you will hear just about everything you do can and will brick your device. ( i understand why this is said) but how many of you have actually had to use your device as target practice as this is the only fun thing you can now do with it? I get everybody defines it as pretty much any problem you have...just get on this site..every single post somewhere is "help i bricked my phone". "did you turn it on"..."oh wait , thanks" Now i get the fear, especially when i first started messing around with android.. i guess i am the type who thinks its easier to just try and figure it out by reading then to ask and I afraid you will laugh at me and call me names.."DID YOU READ ALL 6567 PAGES BEFORE YOU ASKED"..NO THEN TOUGH, HERS HOW..." JK love you all, casue i will ask in the future.. so on the topic if you all don't mind I would like to tell you about how I and I alone have a hard time bricking.... Please don't take this and go try any of what i said i did in this story...you will brick your phone OK now that is out of the way I would like to say ... I think its impossible.. ( its not....) yes it is
Hello land of android. I just wanted to tell my story of the S7 edge Live demo unit of H Ell. I have one and I went to remove the retail version or what ever it just wouldn't boot anymore. I could get in blue down load screen but that it. I tried for 2 months, in between my other phones and not caring anymore about the phone ( my friend gave to me, he had two that he got while working at a Verizon at best buy store in the Midwest and it shut down.. he managed the store and they told him to toss the phones....in case your wondering as every post i see about these somebody is calling the guy posting a thief in one way or another...EVERY SINGLE ONE, besides this one ha ha jk, one of you will) anyways I have flashed and flashed and flashed with no success, I finally got twrp on it...OK, now i am getting somewhere. still took 3 days and many a thing I flashed, at this point it has a boot loader exception error that i have never seen nor could find many people on here that have. Used to have "USE smart switch to recovery cause your update failed" or something like that and a half a dozen other errors from doing stuff that i don't fully understand. I tell you, to people who are worried about bricking their device.....I am starting to think thats a myth...i tried my hardest to brick this phone ( i flashed every zip file i could get my hands on, its started to be a joke to to see how much the phone could take..i was flashing zips of different phones he ll i was flashing zips that had nothing to do with Android at all. back to what i was saying couldn't get it to boot either so i was thinking maybe that this mythical BRICK i keep hearing about. I do this to all my phones and every single one of them, thanks to all the knowledge and amazing people on this site, reading posts not asking..wanted to point that out, i am not wasting peoples time asking them to help me fix things I am trying to screw up on purpose. ok back to it..I got all my devices running, rooted and blazing away every single time...."knock knock"... he he get it cause i am at my desk.. huh ..my WOODEN desk.. right...come onahg nevermind..i suck at life, anywho back at it.... ITS my way of leaning. ( should of seen my computers back in the day trying to learn what the hell "Windows was". ) Anyways I am just rambling on about this to just say, its a lot harder to brick your phone then it is to do anything else to it. IF YOU LISTEN TO ME AND GO TRY ALL THIS DUMB STUFF AND BRICK YOUR PHONE...TOTALLY YOUR FAULT FOR LISTENING TO A RANDOM STRANGER ON THE INTERNET...DON'T DO IT. Anyways, i finally got the live demo unit SM-G935X booted with a Rom..i tied them all.. like 4 at least ha ha and a bunch of stock firmware. I flashed the Flyme on it, which i know nothing about and the mo-fo booted up after two months of nothing and just crazy errors.. Its now saying its a SM-G935F. its rooted and everything..way cool. I just thought i would share or if anybody needs to test a program, file, or apk..... anything...ill be your GG PIGGY. ( for stuff you are actually trying to make work, i don't need programs written just to F my S up... i can most likely handle that on my own....edit...actually,,this would be funny....nah never mind. no intentional screw ups...yet..just talk me into it... Its going to be my mission to see how much this phone can take...you know ..for science and all that. But later, right now i am gonna enjoy playing with my new S7 since i just got it going. BUT SERIOUS..DO NOT ATTEMPT ANY OF THIS, YOU WILL BE THE ONE WHO BRICKS THEIR PHONE.. Also wanted to point out my S5......yeah that little F'er can take some abuse as well. Even my daily driver one plus 6t has already seen its share of the Jrod thinking he is some master developer hacker dude. that going to figure out the next awesome thing we didn't know we could do. ( not even close...not even in like dog years of life times or ...wait that s shorter isn't it,,anyway back at it the One Plus 6t oh yeah ... it cries at night, i pretend i cant hear it but I know whats up. Anyways thanks for letting me ramble on & on. Sorry this was a mess...i get to excited and type way faster then i can think. ( my English teacher said i was going places....ADC but still its somewhere,,,i did ,,damn,ok never mind back at it. wait no i am done. I would like to hear if anybody has like totally killed their device with software ... i get you could put it in the microwave and brick it,,, i fell for that twice.. i want to hear if it happen to you and how. .so next story. or just completed delete this and ban me.. I deserve it.

Found Samsung A51, did a hard reset, but original owner's lock is on it

I'm currently working at a sandwich joint in Garden Grove, near my house, and there was this Samsung A51 phone that has been there for over 8 months now, apparently someone left it in the bathroom awhile back and never came back to claim it, so the manager challenged everyone to unlock it, whoever unlocks it, keeps it, simple ja? Well, it was a 3 x 3 dot lock, and there are over 200,000 answers to crack it, so he gave it to me because everyone gave up on attempting to unlock it. Upon bringing it home, I erased the entire data, in case I might unlock it and accidently stumble upon the previous owner's data. I then went around on Youtube on how to unlock it (since the original owner's Sprint SIM card is still on there, and his/her pin), and I got nothing. So now, I'm left with a clean phone with the previous owner's lock on it, and I'm trying to unlock it so I can clean off their data so I can claim it (Since I could use a new phone anyway), note, I've already did a hard reset on it, so there is no trace of the original owner's data on it except their pin and gmail on it. Is there anyway I can unlock it, and 100 percent clean it so I can claim it? Thanks
-Nguyen
I'm not going to help you unlock that. Maybe someone else will? I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but here's my 2¢ about this.
Personally I wouldn't keep the phone, and I definitely wouldn't try activating it. If the original owner reported it stolen, then police will be knocking on your door within a few hours of trying to activate it. The honest thing to do, and what someone should've done 8 months ago, is turn the phone over to a Sprint store. They would've been able to contact the owner and get it back to them. The owner probably didn't come looking for it because they didn't remember that they left it there, or it was stolen from them. I also think it's really sh*tty to wipe someone else's device. Very important information or irreplaceable data could've been on it. Not everyone backs up their data on a regular basis. Again, I'm really not trying to give you a hard time. I understand why you did it, and I've been guilty of doing the same in my younger years. I just want you to know, there's much better ways to handle this kind of thing in the future.
Spaceminer said:
I'm not going to help you unlock that. Maybe someone else will? I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but here's my 2¢ about this.
Personally I wouldn't keep the phone, and I definitely wouldn't try activating it. If the original owner reported it stolen, then police will be knocking on your door within a few hours of trying to activate it. The honest thing to do, and what someone should've done 8 months ago, is turn the phone over to a Sprint store. They would've been able to contact the owner and get it back to them. The owner probably didn't come looking for it because they didn't remember that they left it there, or it was stolen from them. I also think it's really sh*tty to wipe someone else's device. Very important information or irreplaceable data could've been on it. Not everyone backs up their data on a regular basis. Again, I'm really not trying to give you a hard time. I understand why you did it, and I've been guilty of doing the same in my younger years. I just want you to know, there's much better ways to handle this kind of thing in the future.
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Eaiser said than done. I'm gonna return it though, knowing the fact the police wouldn't knock on my door, considering the manager left it on for awhile and everyone attempting to unlock it already, now then, how do I explain to them I wiped out one of their phone's hard drive clean? I tell them I found it like that or sumthin?
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Eaiser said than done. I'm gonna return it though, knowing the fact the police wouldn't knock on my door, considering the manager left it on for awhile and everyone attempting to unlock it already, now then, how do I explain to them I wiped out one of their phone's hard drive clean? I tell them I found it like that or sumthin?
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I wouldn't say anything. Just drop it off and say that it was left at your work. They only know as much as you tell them. ;-)
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I wouldn't say anything. Just drop it off and say that it was left at your work. They only know as much as you tell them. ;-)
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Okay, one more thing before I actually give it to them, awhile back, I put on my gmail as an attempt to link it with the phone, and once I realized nothing can be done, I did a hard reset, any way my gmail is still linked to the phone, or its still clean without any traces of my info on it?
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Okay, one more thing before I actually give it to them, awhile back, I put on my gmail as an attempt to link it with the phone, and once I realized nothing can be done, I did a hard reset, any way my gmail is still linked to the phone, or its still clean without any traces of my info on it?
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It's a lot easier to be a straight shooter... hope you learned something from this
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Okay, one more thing before I actually give it to them, awhile back, I put on my gmail as an attempt to link it with the phone, and once I realized nothing can be done, I did a hard reset, any way my gmail is still linked to the phone, or its still clean without any traces of my info on it?
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You should be fine.

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