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CM9 on I717 is fraking sweet
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If nothing else this is all but official confirmation that there will be an official CM9 for the AT&T Note (albeit this was always likely) but it might also (but probably doesn't) hint that Cyanogen himself might help maintain it. (I bought my G2 for the specific reason that it was his daily driver at the time)
Edit: Looks like I was treed by 1 minute on this one
Yeah he has confirmed about cm9 for our note !!!!! He said no public realise is out yet but hold tight ....that's what he said on Google....I can't wait lol
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armyboy11b said:
Yeah he has confirmed about cm9 for our note !!!!! He said no public realise is out yet but hold tight ....that's what he said on Google....I can't wait lol
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This was announced months ago on the cyanogenmod blog.
Order of operations (in true geek form, the pun was intended):
1) Exynos based systems would come first.
2) Next would be MSM86xx based systems...hence the skyrocket and our Note.
Old news is no news.
Thanks for the update, it's much appreciated to see that we're nearing a release. I'll be refreshing get.cm twice as hard now.
Jamesyboy said:
This was announced months ago on the cyanogenmod blog.
Order of operations (in true geek form, the pun was intended):
1) Exynos based systems would come first.
2) Next would be MSM86xx based systems...hence the skyrocket and our Note.
Old news is no news.
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K smart ass its news to me since I can't be on here all the dam time thanks for the update OP
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Thanks for the news. I won't use them, but it is always great to see a device accepted by these guys.
I'm guessing Kondik cannot release until his company officially pushes source code for the kernel.
zonyl said:
I'm guessing Kondik cannot release until his company officially pushes source code for the kernel.
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I hope that's sarcasm
zonyl said:
I'm guessing Kondik cannot release until his company officially pushes source code for the kernel.
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Actually, he's not releasing it for other reasons... I was gonna share in another thread thread I hastily started. But since IM late to the party no need for my late update... Lmao
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tyler79durdan said:
Actually, he's not releasing it for other reasons... I was gonna share in another thread thread I hastily started. But since IM late to the party no need for my late update... Lmao
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Regardless of the reason, I'll bet the first taker $20, it won't appear on cm nightly network for download, until Samsung has the i717 ICS kernel for download.
I'd be happy to be wrong.
zonyl said:
Regardless of the reason, I'll bet the first taker $20, it won't appear on cm nightly network for download, until Samsung has the i717 ICS kernel for download.
I'd be happy to be wrong.
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My vibrant had nightlies without source. I could be wrong but the sky rocket is getting nightlies and they have no source yet either right?
Edit- from googling real quick seems they getting unofficial cm9 ported. -.-
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MaddBlazed said:
My vibrant had nightlies without source. I could be wrong but the sky rocket is getting nightlies and they have no source yet either right?
Edit- from googling real quick seems they getting unofficial cm9 ported. -.-
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They not waiting for the offical we wont have to wait that long
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So how far along is cm9 for our notes?
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So excited, I love CM9 on my i777
Looking forward to this, as every ICS rom out right now is nothing short of awful for lack of a good kernel.
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Looking forward to this, as every ICS rom out right now is nothing short of awful for lack of a good kernel.
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Awful how? I have tried two ICS roms and they bludgeoned GingerBread to death.
Performance is absolutely awful. I have been ready to return this thing a few times but I am trying to hold out until the kernel source is released to see if we can get any bump in performance. Scrolling is awful, period, on every rom I have tried. I am really hoping this isnt a snapdragon S3 issue, as were ****ed if so. Then the constant redraws, lag, app hangs, etc just make me want to switch back to WP7.
Have you tried the Unofficial rom? It is fast and clean and super stable.
It sounds to me like you have a bad Note. I had one and exchanged it. It took forever for screen transitions and the SPen was super laggy which made me originally wonder what Samsung was thinking. Until I went in for a different issue (the backlight bleed on the white notes) to swap it out with a black one.
Even the Hybrid is very fluid with all of its customizations.
yeah I ran TPC, unofficial ICS, and now dagr8s hybrid at 213 dpi. Tablet mode is awesome, but useless with all the lag. I have 3 home screens and maybe 7 widgets, and its painful to use at times. My Sensation 4g SMOKES this thing.
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Performance is absolutely awful. I have been ready to return this thing a few times but I am trying to hold out until the kernel source is released to see if we can get any bump in performance. Scrolling is awful, period, on every rom I have tried. I am really hoping this isnt a snapdragon S3 issue, as were ****ed if so. Then the constant redraws, lag, app hangs, etc just make me want to switch back to WP7.
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This is just one bad experiance.......the ics roms out right now are GOOD and smooth and fast. scrolling on my note is very smooth. you may have a bad note, or are just setting it up wrong. everyone has little tweaks they do that they think help the smoothness. so in the end what im trying to say it IS NOT THE ROMS......
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-9-rc2-emerges-new-devices-stability-improvements
So its not like I didn't see it coming when samsung hired steve, but geeeeez. Samsung devices are #1 priority I guess these days. I liked it better when the love was more evenly distibuted. But its good news anyway.
I think this is more news worthy:
CM9? Bleh, who cares.
Samsung also donated some devices to the CM team a while back, and generally release source faster than HTC.
don't they also have a bigger market share?
I haven't had a Samsung smartphone, just posting from what I've seen
miguelfp1 said:
Samsung also donated some devices to the CM team a while back, and generally release source faster than HTC.
don't they also have a bigger market share?
I haven't had a Samsung smartphone, just posting from what I've seen
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Pretty sure Sammy is the biggest smart phone manufacturer in the world.
Honestly, the next phone I get, HTC and Sammy are battling for my money. I said after my Epic that I would never buy another Sammy phone, so I skipped the SII in favor Photon because I felt the 3D was useless. Now that I've played with the SIII and the EVO LTE I am fairly equally impressed by both devices.
It's going to come down to support and device build, who releases source the fastest and who updates the devices the best and which one builds the best feeling device.
Assuming there is an S4 and Sammy doesn't blow it, I could very well see my self getting it.
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I think this is more news worthy:
CM9? Bleh, who cares.
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LOL, yea I saw that. Exciting, although I don't expect to see it close to a RC for another few months.
swaze said:
LOL, yea I saw that. Exciting, although I don't expect to see it close to a RC for another few months.
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Few months for RC, yeah...hell some CM's never leave Alpha haha.
Suitable for Daily Driving in a few weeks at most I would say.
where would one find this ROM?
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where would one find this ROM?
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Not released yet. Still No Wifi and the RIL isn't playing nicely - as is almost always the case with CDMA devices - so No Voice or Data either.
Pretty much from what I gathered it boots and runs and that's about it.
We would get this if we had official support. We knew it wasn't coming for us.
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Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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MemoryController said:
Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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They have been lately.
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What? Still no 4.0.4 kernel sources
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Kcarpenter said:
Pretty sure Sammy is the biggest smart phone manufacturer in the world.
Honestly, the next phone I get, HTC and Sammy are battling for my money. I said after my Epic that I would never buy another Sammy phone, so I skipped the SII in favor Photon because I felt the 3D was useless. Now that I've played with the SIII and the EVO LTE I am fairly equally impressed by both devices.
It's going to come down to support and device build, who releases source the fastest and who updates the devices the best and which one builds the best feeling device.
Assuming there is an S4 and Sammy doesn't blow it, I could very well see my self getting it.
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Does Sammy make all of the Nexus phones? I would get that if I were you, and you're interested in getting lots of updates and development. That'll be my next phone if Sprint doesn't wait 6 months after release to sell it.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Does Sammy make all of the Nexus phones? I would get that if I were you, and you're interested in getting lots of updates and development. That'll be my next phone if Sprint doesn't wait 6 months after release to sell it.
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They don't make all of the nexus line.. HTC had one early on. Google has just chosen to go with sammy lately
MemoryController said:
Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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SIII source was available as soon as the phone was released.
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SIII source was available as soon as the phone was released.
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Source for the Epic 4G Touch was also released shortly before it got its ICS update. Samsung definitely knows how to please the community.
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We would get this if we had official support. We knew it wasn't coming for us.
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
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Source for the Epic 4G Touch was also released shortly before it got its ICS update. Samsung definitely knows how to please the community.
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Unless you take into account they're timely updates
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
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I think he just meant we should have known we weren't getting RC2 since we haven't obtained official support yet.
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guih said:
Unless you take into account they're timely updates
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Samsung does update quick. Ignoring the wider user base of GSM carriers, CDMA carriers such as VZW and Sprint always tend to lag behind updates. Due to CDMA restrictions that can't be open-sourced, Samsung doesn't control the entire software update and adds to the delay. Take a look at devices that were released with Gingerbread and see how many of those have ICS. Chances are they're almost all GSM devices.The HTC Rezound on Verizon came out later than the Epic 4G Touch and has yet to see ICS. The Evo 3D and Design 4G won't see ICS till next month. Besides, the Epic 4G Touch was receiving ICS leaks since early this year.
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
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No one said that. But we DON'T as of now so of course we didn't get the update.
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Having been burned on an HTC phone that never saw good developer support (HTC Amaze 4G) I am on pins and needles to learn if CM10 will be supported for this device. What about you?
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Having been burned on an HTC phone that never saw good developer support (HTC Amaze 4G) I am on pins and needles to learn if CM10 will be supported for this device. What about you?
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Probably not officially supported, but I've seen CM7/9/10 on the Droid Inc (my first android phone) and CM9 plus currently working on CM10 on Rezound (my 2nd android phone).. AFAIK, thunderbolt has CM7 and CM9, and I can honestly see some Cyanogen in this phones future
Id like to see it but either way one has to wait for HTC to release the kernel to start original development right?
Yes it is supported....
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Having been burned on an HTC phone that never saw good developer support (HTC Amaze 4G) I am on pins and needles to learn if CM10 will be supported for this device. What about you?
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Search google, as I just did and there are step by step instructions available how to install CM10 on ur device....would have posted the link but as per forum rules I cannot do so bcoz I am a new to this forum
Yes there is a CM10 build available, however it does not (and probably never will) have working data. Smart phone without data equals dumb phone.
Fortunately there are a couple of talented themers who have put a lot of nice lipstick on the HTC/sense UI (EclipszeRemix) which is good but not the same thing as stock.
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riprowan said:
Yes there is a CM10 build available, however it does not (and probably never will) have working data. Smart phone without data equals dumb phone.
Fortunately there are a couple of talented themers who have put a lot of nice lipstick on the HTC/sense UI (EclipszeRemix) which is good but not the same thing as stock.
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How could you say it will never have data?? Do you develops for cm? Don't make statements that aren't true.
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How could you say it will never have data?? Do you develops for cm? Don't make statements that aren't true.
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His device is somewhat old, so that's why he assumed that it may never have data on CM. Once a device has been out for some time, it loses support as devs move on to new devices. It's the circle of life.
There has been trouble getting CM to work on the last several verizon HTC phones. Even if they get a port working, there are usually broken features due to HTC's changes to android (camera, BT stack, etc).
I guess your best bet is that if you really have to have CM10 on your device, you don't buy the device until CM10 is working to your liking. That will save everyone alot of headache of listening to users complain about not having CM10 on a phone that no one promised it for.
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Watch the attitude guys
im so waiting .:good::good::good::good:
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Probably not officially supported, but I've seen CM7/9/10 on the Droid Inc (my first android phone) and CM9 plus currently working on CM10 on Rezound (my 2nd android phone).. AFAIK, thunderbolt has CM7 and CM9, and I can honestly see some Cyanogen in this phones future
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Unfortunately the Thunderbolt only has CM7, which isn't officially supported. There is AOSP ICS but not by CM.
In regard to several posts within this thread, Th kerne source will be helpful but the true issue is the RIL(radio interface layer) that prevents aosp from being ported. If the RIL can be cracked we should have a fully functional CM10 build and it will likely be fully supported. I know for a fact that there are already devs working on this and S-off so hang tight guys things should get interesting. We have some awesome devs on this project already!
Looks like Verizon decided to lock the boot loader. http://www.talkandroid.com/141409-htc-locks-down-droid-dna-bootloader/
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riprowan said:
Yes there is a CM10 build available, however it does not (and probably never will) have working data. Smart phone without data equals dumb phone.
Fortunately there are a couple of talented themers who have put a lot of nice lipstick on the HTC/sense UI (EclipszeRemix) which is good but not the same thing as stock.
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How could you say it will never have data?? Do you develops for cm? Don't make statements that aren't true.
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ALSO IMPORTANT: Please for the love of god do not try to install any build of CM10 you find on the internet on this device(they are designed for other devices with other chipsets and antenna pairings). YOU WILL REGRET IT, and you will likeley brick your device.(valid until we have our own port as of right now this device is completely unsupported. just trust me on this.)
And to the data being functional see my previous post!
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jlvlawrence said:
Looks like Verizon decided to lock the boot loader. http://www.talkandroid.com/141409-htc-locks-down-droid-dna-bootloader/
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work has already commenced on a solution to this and is expected to be released within a few days but there is no guarantee
I just bought an HTC Droid DNA and I was guessing if it's possible to install Stock Android Jelly Bean on the device, because I actually didn't liked Sense UI.
Thanks
Not at this time.
If you really hate sense just install a launcher.
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I'm in the process of trying to make one. No promises tho.
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I'm in the process of trying to make one. No promises tho.
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I'm craving for some AOSP and AOKP, I can't wait to try out your work!
CM10 anyone?
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CM10 anyone?
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Me me me! Love CM10
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If you are holding your breath on AOSP don't. Might want to consider returning if you don't like sense. I'm contemplating it too and switching to AT&T and picking up a Nexus 4. I don't think anyone is even working on AOSP for this phone now. If it does appear it will be months from now.
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If you are holding your breath on AOSP don't. Might want to consider returning if you don't like sense. I'm contemplating it too and switching to AT&T and picking up a Nexus 4. I don't think anyone is even working on AOSP for this phone now. If it does appear it will be months from now.
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Man this is really disappointing... I love HTC and the quality of they're phones especially the DNA. But seems like the cons just keep growing. The video lag, missing apps in the market, 16gb storage and the possibility of no aosp for months.... Not sure if ill be keeping the device
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johnc810 said:
Man this is really disappointing... I love HTC and the quality of they're phones especially the DNA. But seems like the cons just keep growing. The video lag, missing apps in the market, 16gb storage and the possibility of no aosp for months.... Not sure if ill be keeping the device
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Really a shame. Why can't Android users get the best hardware AND the best software on ONE device? The DNA is currently the best hardware available for Android. AOSP on it would make it the best device all together. What a shame.
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If you are holding your breath on AOSP don't. Might want to consider returning if you don't like sense. I'm contemplating it too and switching to AT&T and picking up a Nexus 4. I don't think anyone is even working on AOSP for this phone now. If it does appear it will be months from now.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but how exactly do you know. We all knew what we were getting into when we bought the device. Just gotta be patient that's all. If s-off does indeed come from sality within the month, then this device would be making great strides in development. From there we would need the RIL to be cracked, but it takes time. If you don't see any huge development by the first week of January, return your device. As long as you bought the phone after Nov 22 you can return it to Verizon by January 15th. Just my input.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but how exactly do you know. We all knew what we were getting into when we bought the device. Just gotta be patient that's all. If s-off does indeed come from sality within the month, then this device would be making great strides in development. From there we would need the RIL to be cracked, but it takes time. If you don't see any huge development by the first week of January, return your device. As long as you bought the phone after Nov 22 you can return it to Verizon by January 15th. Just my input.
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2 Questions:
1) What about this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996389 Won't that get you to the point where you can try one of the ROMs that has been released in the Dev forums here?
2) Why January 15th? Is that a holiday special? Isn't it normally 2 weeks? If I bought my DNA on the 21st, what are the chances I could get them to honor this promotion? Since I only missed it by a day.
Once the devs work things out with the s-on and RIL problem this phone will really be a beast.
As far as the video problem, I'm sure it'll be worked out as more phones get 1080hd displays. Same with games and apps.
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2 Questions:
1) What about this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996389 Won't that get you to the point where you can try one of the ROMs that has been released in the Dev forums here?
2) Why January 15th? Is that a holiday special? Isn't it normally 2 weeks? If I bought my DNA on the 21st, what are the chances I could get them to honor this promotion? Since I only missed it by a day.
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You must first unlock your device's bootloader in order to root. Once that is all completed then yes.... And in response to your second question, yes the return period is a holiday special. Chances of getting the promotion honored is doubtful, honestly. You could always return the device, pay the restocking fee, and buy the phone again elsewhere, which would then fit with the promotion. That's assuming if you bought it off contact.
If this phone ends up anything like the Rezound did, sell it now, return it, etc.
It took months and months and months and countless issues and still development is dead.
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My only other choices are the Raze HD or S3.
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My only other choices are the Raze HD or S3.
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If You really want Aosp with no issues Verizon you should leave.
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If this phone ends up anything like the Rezound did, sell it now, return it, etc.
It took months and months and months and countless issues and still development is dead.
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Except for the fact that the DNA is a great phone that ranks up with the best right out of the box. The Rezound is/was not.
The rezound had the best screen, best audio, best processor, best camera when it came out. Lol . Nice try though.
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Really a shame. Why can't Android users get the best hardware AND the best software on ONE device? The DNA is currently the best hardware available for Android. AOSP on it would make it the best device all together. What a shame.
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I don't understand when people say this...Sure AOSP is nice to run every once in a while, but honestly I don't see what makes it better than sense..they do the exact same thing, they just look different! There's not even the argument that it runs faster anymore as the DNA has such good internals that it could run any os without a problem.
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I don't understand when people say this...Sure AOSP is nice to run every once in a while, but honestly I don't see what makes it better than sense..they do the exact same thing, they just look different! There's not even the argument that it runs faster anymore as the DNA has such good internals that it could run any os without a problem.
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But it still isn't as "smooth" as aosp for a lot of people. Even then, aosp brings forth a whole bunch of mods, tweaks,themes, etc.
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I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
Might I suggest checking out the development and original development threads?
You can currently follow along with joelz while they trouble shoot a new port.
AOSP
CM10
MIUI
Sense 4
Sense 5
Several kernels
Looks like development to me.
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I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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Hmm... Can't tell if serious or troll
shobon said:
What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
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You may be blind sir...
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You may be blind sir...
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Im thinking that may be the case
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Im thinking that may be the case
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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Braille
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Braille
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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Seriously, is there something you want that is not developed such as a specific rom, kernel, recovery, etc?
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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Is it because they are mostly built from the same base? I can see that being confusing to some, thinking there is no real development going on.. However, the same base != the same rom. There is real development going on for our device and all other devices on these forums.. I for one feel we have plenty to choose from and things are only going to get better and easier down the road... May have an official Sense 5 rom for the devs to play around with if Verizon gets things going.. I love it here!! Am I wrong? :good: :highfive::highfive:
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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That was sarcasm. In other words most of our roms have a completely different feel. On the GNex there were a lot of dups for sure.
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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_phoey said:
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
Sent from my Droid DNA running Rootbox
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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cstrife999 said:
I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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Don't get me wrong, its an amazing phone that could easily compete with the SGS4, but it's Verizon exclusive so it never made it to that status. It was a mistake on Verizons and HTCs part to make this beast a carrier exclusive.
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cstrife999 said:
I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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well, considering that verizon sells the iphone and the SGS4 (and the SGS3 if you want to talk about 2012), will them having close to 50% and 30% market share, respectively, i dont really see how the DNA could have been anywhere near a top seller. not to mention the note 2 and others. i would probably label this phone "unpopular". most people have never even heard of this phone. i'm glad they are making the "droid" branding exclusive to motorola. the DNA's exclusivity to Verizon killed the awesome potential this phone had. but still, i think we have awesome development. except, i dont understand why we have 5 million aosp roms.