According to this article http://phandroid.com/2015/11/06/nexus-6p-quick-charge/
The hardware is there, not sure if the logs are helpful to get it enabled back.
yangqi said:
According to this article http://phandroid.com/2015/11/06/nexus-6p-quick-charge/
The hardware is there, not sure if the logs are helpful to get it enabled back.
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Already charges as fast, or faster than qc.
Why bother.
No point, it has a non-proprietary fast charge, which is what you should be wanting and praising them for doing.
Useful as an intermediate step for those of us who have invested in a number of qc2 Chargers.
Have raised this before, the hardware all seems to be there, so there may be a way to enable it in the future at some point.
Also, for those saying that the USB-C native is faster, you're sadly mistaken. USB-C is 5V/3A = 15W , obviously take away some for loss, heat, resistance. QC 2.0 can support 9V/2A (18W), 12V/1.5A (18W) both just a touch higher than USB-C - albeit not by a massive margin.
Im in the same boat as above, I have 2 QC2.0 desktop chargers and a carcharger too, would be lovely to use them with a good USB-A to C cable and support those speeds.
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Already charges as fast, or faster than qc.
Why bother.
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Only on stock wall charger, which means you can't fast charge using qc2 charger that a lot of people already own.
yangqi said:
Only on stock wall charger, which means you can't fast charge using qc2 charger that a lot of people already own.
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Once c gets fully adopted, which shouldn't be long, chargers will be cheap as dirt.
I can see the bummer aspect if you've already invested in qc though. At least it won't cost much to switch.
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Once c gets fully adopted, which shouldn't be long, chargers will be cheap as dirt.
I can see the bummer aspect if you've already invested in qc though. At least it won't cost much to switch.
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it has nothing to do with usb-c, c will work with any charger. This charger won't get cheaper if no other phone requires that 3A output.
yangqi said:
it has nothing to do with usb-c, c will work with any charger. This charger won't get cheaper if no other phone requires that 3A output.
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When everyone is using c - and along with that faster data rates, and fast charge - everyone and their grandmother will be making chargers meeting c fast charge specs. And when that happens, price will drop like a big rock.
But ya never know what some enterprising dev may come up with. I'm sure if possible, it'll be done.
I wouldn't chuck those chargers yet. Although might be better to try and sell them now while you can before qc fades away and they are worthless.
bongostl said:
Useful as an intermediate step for those of us who have invested in a number of qc2 Chargers.
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When everyone is using c - and along with that faster data rates, and fast charge - everyone and their grandmother will be making chargers meeting c fast charge specs. And when that happens, price will drop like a big rock.
But ya never know what some enterprising dev may come up with. I'm sure if possible, it'll be done.
I wouldn't chuck those chargers yet. Although might be better to try and sell them now while you can before qc fades away and they are worthless.
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What makes you think QC will fade away? QC 3.0 looks promising, and will likely be standard fitment to next gen Qualcomm powered phones, given they could also utilise USB-C connectors, it looks like it could be around for a while?
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No point, it has a non-proprietary fast charge, which is what you should be wanting and praising them for doing.
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This. Exactly this.
Also, think about the companies that have adopted USB Type-C already. Microsoft. Google. Intel. Asus. MSI. Apple. HP. Dell. And so on and so forth.
If what has you worried is not seeing a lot of third party makers of Type-C equipment on Amazon, just keep in mind we are in the first few quarters of adoption. It's going to take a little while to spin up world wide production of all the millions of little usb products we use.
As a wise man once said: R. E. L. A. X. Relax.
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What makes you think QC will fade away? QC 3.0 looks promising, and will likely be standard fitment to next gen Qualcomm powered phones, given they could also utilise USB-C connectors, it looks like it could be around for a while?
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C above
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I have.
My point is still relevant though, I know USB-C (PD) is capable of 100W or whatever, but in its current use on our phones it is 15W.
QC 2.0 is already doing 18W , QC 3.0 can do 60W (INOV). QC also supports the USB-C interface, meaning in a few months, you could get a phone which uses a USB-C interface, using QC 3.0 charging at beyond 18W.....
QC can live harmoniously with a USB-C connector. If our hardware technically has support, the more the merrier.
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When everyone is using c - and along with that faster data rates, and fast charge - everyone and their grandmother will be making chargers meeting c fast charge specs. And when that happens, price will drop like a big rock.
But ya never know what some enterprising dev may come up with. I'm sure if possible, it'll be done.
I wouldn't chuck those chargers yet. Although might be better to try and sell them now while you can before qc fades away and they are worthless.
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Lol. By the time this happens either a new spec is out or we have the Nexus 6SP (Super Premium). Anyways options are always nice.
Sorry folks, but the "debate" is boring me.
Back to my cigar and my coffee!
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Have raised this before, the hardware all seems to be there, so there may be a way to enable it in the future at some point.
Also, for those saying that the USB-C native is faster, you're sadly mistaken. USB-C is 5V/3A = 15W , obviously take away some for loss, heat, resistance. QC 2.0 can support 9V/2A (18W), 12V/1.5A (18W) both just a touch higher than USB-C - albeit not by a massive margin.
Im in the same boat as above, I have 2 QC2.0 desktop chargers and a carcharger too, would be lovely to use them with a good USB-A to C cable and support those speeds.
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Your assumption is that QC can maintain the 9V and 12V charging states as long as Type-C can maintain its high amp charging before it has to taper off. I'm not saying it doesn't but nobody knows the exact states each charger goes through as different battery levels, battery temperatures, etc.
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Sorry folks, but the "debate" is boring me.
Back to my cigar and my coffee!
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The point of this post is not to "fight" over which option is better, time will tell. But for now wouldn't it be perfect if nexus 6p can support both google's fast charging and QC2.0?
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Your assumption is that QC can maintain the 9V and 12V charging states as long as Type-C can maintain its high amp charging before it has to taper off. I'm not saying it doesn't but nobody knows the exact states each charger goes through as different battery levels, battery temperatures, etc.
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Absolutely true, but I'd like to have the option - afterall, that's why I like android - choice and options
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The point of this post is not to "fight" over which option is better, time will tell. But for now wouldn't it be perfect if nexus 6p can support both google's fast charging and QC2.0?
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Absolutely true again. Having the freedom to use whichever standard ends up winning, means we win in the end.
So back on track, discussion topic to see if we can get QC 2.0 working!
Since I'm not as technically savy as our amazing ROM devs, I have to wonder if this is something that could be enabled. Maybe with a kernel?
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I just bought two sets of SONICable,The World's Most Advanced Charging Cable, for $49.00. Supposedly, they will increase you charging speed by 2x. It's a crowdfund project, and the cables will supposedly be delivered in March 2015.
I'm not affiliated with the project. I only think it sounds like an exciting product and decided informing the community about it.
Does it work on the same principle as this video for doubling your WiFi speed?
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5cEik2ABY
Well while surely there are better and worse cables, doesn't charging speed depends on the output of the wall piece and the charging circuitry?
On bad cables i get at most 1 Amp to charge the tablet, but with the original samsung cable i do get around 2 amps which is the designed output of the wall piece.
Maybe it works like the "Fast Charge" mode on custom kernels.
Charging is limited by 3 factors
1. Stock charger 5 Volts, then most importantly is the Amps - 2A for typical Samsung charger so going faster then this is unlikely with the stock charger, and tablets can already charge at 1890mA so probably 90% of its rated current.
2. Cable quality and length most Samsung cables are already high-quality and have copper wires with two bigger wires for the 5v and Ground line and they are short length (3-6ft) so they can easily handle 2A output (probably higher).
3. Probably the most important is the phone / tablet, usually they have several circuitry and software (kernel) protections to limit the charging speed for several reasons since lithium-ion / poly are extremely dangerous if they are overcharged or overheated or otherwise improperly charged (you can see videos of people overcharging lithium battery's then tapping them causing a huge fireball )
So it is very unlikely for a cable to achieve better charging speed, it probably just has the Data + - pins shorted to tell the charger / phone to charge at full speed (though this is unnecessary nowadays since most chargers already do this, but it could be beneficial for older phones / tablets)
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I just bought two sets of SONICable,The World's Most Advanced Charging Cable, for $49.00. Supposedly, they will increase you charging speed by 2x. It's a crowdfund project, and the cables will supposedly be delivered in March 2015.
I'm not affiliated with the project. I only think it sounds like an exciting product and decided informing the community about it.
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You seriously spent $49 on a usb lead
From the link you supplied:
'When the switch is ON: All of the power is focused on charging, sync/data is disabled'
What, like using a mains charger where there is no sync connection (or buying a cheap charging cable where the data pins aren't connected)
Hes either a bot or someone paid to advertise that "product". It did remind me of "double your network speed" video from youtube where dude wraps one ethernet cable with another one and doubles his internet speed.
I saw this post a while back, and it was immediately clear to me that it was a scam. I can't BELIEVE that they actually raised over $400k on this thing. Indiegogo seems like it's becoming a scammer's conduit to gullible/uninformed buyers.
When did commercial posts get so frequent in here?
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When did commercial posts get so frequent in here?
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Apparently, there's a difference between buying a sd-card on amazon, or a glass protector on amazon compared with a pair of cables on Indiegogo. Although, I can't really see the difference.
Anyway, if and when I receive the cables I will let you know how it worked out.
Did you get your cables yet? Your OP says they were due in March 2015
Edit: I like this better http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...9QNSmGzx8GP_qMGpQ&sig2=O-5lUKoBFozTFf-A2spM6A
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Did you get your cables yet? Your OP says they were due in March 2015
Edit: I like this better http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...9QNSmGzx8GP_qMGpQ&sig2=O-5lUKoBFozTFf-A2spM6A
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No news as of yet, who knows maybe it is as suggested a hoax. But, as I'm enjoying gadgets I'll take the risk.
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No news as of yet, who knows maybe it is as suggested a hoax. But, as I'm enjoying gadgets I'll take the risk.
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Keep us posted! Im interested in the results.
I'll probably buy when the price goes down.
Seems like an interesting concept. I'd like to see the cable in real-world action. Assuming they actually make it to market, i'll buy when the price goes down.
Believe it, or not, but I actually received my cables last week. The charging speed is substantially improved, but definitely not 2x. However, I still haven't tried charging by connecting over the PC, where this might show up. Anyway, as a fan of gadgets I still satisfied with my purchase.
I'm glad your happy with your purchase.
Charging speed is limited by the circuitry in the tablet itself. There's a limit in the amount of amps it can pull from anything (charger/computer or any USB port). I have an extremely powerful charger so I'm sure I hit the max charging rate of my devices. This cable will not improve that. I'm also sure that it's actually charging faster and drawing more power than my original chargers as some devices act a bit weird when charged fast.
The "twice as fast" charging rate will be the exact same charging rate as you get from a "charge only" cable if (and only if) you connect it to a computer or another device that syncs data. In every other scenario you'll get the exact same charging rate.
Note that your computer typically has a USB port for charging that's capable of drawing more power than the standard 500 mA that USB 1 and 2 offer. (USB3 can draw 900 mA, up to 1500 mA if it's a charging port)
Keep in mind that the stock charger output is 5.3 volts.
Lower impedance cable helps.
Samsung stock cable is good enough, and PNY cable also does a good job.
You can have the same thing on eBay for $6 ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-smart-c...-Apple-Android-With-V-A-display-/141342314642
A charge only cable so you get maximum charge speed starts at only £5
http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-fast-charge-micro-usb-cable/
An choice of USB Charging adapter, but do you really need these?
http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-fast-charge-data-block-usb-adaptor/
John.
If you have 5 port 8 amp IQ charger, you can charge T520 faster.
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Did you get your cables yet? Your OP says they were due in March 2015
Edit: I like this better http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...9QNSmGzx8GP_qMGpQ&sig2=O-5lUKoBFozTFf-A2spM6A
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Yes I got my cable, and the 2x works if you charge through your computers USB, as what the cable does is cutting off the communication to charge only. I saw a post at XDA that explain how to do this by yourself in about 5-10 min.
I'm an idiot, I left my charger at work. Is there another compatible charger I can buy or do I have to drop $35 for the turbocharger from Motorola ( I know any mini USB charger will work but I don't wanna wait 5 hours.)
Yeah there's a good amount now, just look for Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0 compatibility. I have the Tenergy one that was cheap and works great.
Tenergy - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OVD3FEU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_DHznvb0DA4SX4
Aukey - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QEX83LA/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_IJznvb0BZTR1Z
Anker - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Q88Q16K/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_FKznvb0TDG6A1
Hope this helps!
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Tenergy - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OVD3FEU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_DHznvb0DA4SX4
Aukey - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QEX83LA/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_IJznvb0BZTR1Z
Anker - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Q88Q16K/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_FKznvb0TDG6A1
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I'm gonna have to :good::good::good: this one because I agree, those are all great options. I like the look of the Aukey personally, almost looks like a matte finish around it! Really it all falls into reviews/looks/cost
They are all great alternatives and don't look to be quite so blockish as the motorola one is
I got this since I also wanted to get a car charger...$25 for the pair, multiple ports.
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Essenti...&ie=UTF8&qid=1429579164&sr=1-2&keywords=onite
Haha, I would post a sign at work with a picture of the charter that reads "whoever took my charger is in for a big surprise in a week when their battery explodes from too much power". We know that's BS but it may scare the office thief into bringing it back
that's lame of people to take your charger. Where do you work if you don't mind me asking? Or the type of work you do?
Someone recently took my charger come to think of it. 4 port wall plug from monoprice. It's a great work horse.
joshm.1219 said:
Yeah there's a good amount now, just look for Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0 compatibility. I have the Tenergy one that was cheap and works great.
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Do they charge as fast as the OEM charger?
romdroid. said:
Do they charge as fast as the OEM charger?
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Yupp same technology. Qualcomm lists them as compatible on their website so you know they've been truly certified.
8Fishes said:
that's lame of people to take your charger. Where do you work if you don't mind me asking? Or the type of work you do?
Someone recently took my charger come to think of it. 4 port wall plug from monoprice. It's a great work horse.
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Yeah, it really sucks. They have tactical security (read: dudes with guns) where I work, so I am guessing the janitorial staff would think twice, lol.
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Do they charge as fast as the OEM charger?
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Ordered one off Amazon works great. Same charge speed as well.
I'm a firm believer in Anker products. I now buy only Anker chargers and cables. They have Smart IQ, which automatically adjusts amperage based on what the device can accept, so you will always get the max charge. They always get close to 5 stars on Amazon. Actually, they are the highest rated chargers you can get.
wolfen69 said:
I'm a firm believer in Anker products. I now buy only Anker chargers and cables. They have Smart IQ, which automatically adjusts amperage based on what the device can accept, so you will always get the max charge. They always get close to 5 stars on Amazon. Actually, they are the highest rated chargers you can get.
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The Anker portable batteries and chargers I have aren't Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified, and won't charge as quickly as the phone is capable. Search Amazon for certified chargers.
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Ohiowa said:
The Anker portable batteries and chargers I have aren't Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified, and won't charge as quickly as the phone is capable. Search Amazon for certified chargers.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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If you want to use quick charger that's fine with me. My anker charger is pretty quick as is. I've heard that quick charging may eventually hurt battery life in the long run, so I choose not to use it. I don't need quick charge because I don't even use my phone a whole lot to begin with and rarely go below 60%. Plus, I have a charger handy wherever I am. (car/work/home/portable charger)
I have the Qualcomm one off of Amazon and I honestly believe that it charges quicker.
And high quality cables that destroy and tear or transfer stream \ voltage at full power.
How about this:
1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EU-Original...-Chargeur-/142079798486?hash=item21149dacd6:g : G2kAAOSw9NdXqZ56?
2. Http://www.ebay.com/itm/EU-Original...al-Chargeur-/142079798486?hash=item21149dacd6 : g: G2kAAOSw9NdXqZ56 here all the usual ports will provide a stable power if everyone will be connected?
3. Http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-EU-Qualc...Wall-Charger-Dock-USB-Cable-/111878316229?var = & hash = item1a0c77a0c5: m: meyCS07GWYqUoDiraon-WcA
4. Http://www.ebay.com/itm/201596481271
5. Http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3PCS-Tr...harge-2-0-/182103204951?hash=item2a66326457:g : 2CUAAOSwYudXGxMp
And it's smart port
Cargo should be a European plug
nbjo460 said:
And high quality cables that destroy and tear or transfer stream \ voltage at full power.
How about this:
1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EU-Original...-Chargeur-/142079798486?hash=item21149dacd6:g : G2kAAOSw9NdXqZ56?
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It's hard to say anything about no-name chinese stuff like this. May be decent, may be crap, may be outragerous dangerous.
I strongly suggest buying a well-known third party charger brand like Anker or RavPower. This will at least give you the opportunity to read lots of user experiences on amazon.
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here all the usual ports will provide a stable power if everyone will be connected?
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Usually, it is not possible to draw full power simultaneous from all ports. There is an upper, overall limit on the power dissipation and if this is exceeded, all ports will become unstable.
hergen66 said:
It's hard to say anything about no-name chinese stuff like this. May be decent, may be crap, may be outragerous dangerous.
I strongly suggest buying a well-known third party charger brand like Anker or RavPower. This will at least give you the opportunity to read lots of user experiences on amazon.
Usually, it is not possible to draw full power simultaneous from all ports. There is an upper, overall limit on the power dissipation and if this is exceeded, all ports will become unstable.
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Did you check all the links? Because I thought that the company tronsmart is good. And Governor I take charge of a company that you trust her with 48w and 2 ports and one Fast 2 then claim it does not give me full power all? It has enough watt. And it makes sense that kernel offers quick claim 2 and G3 D855? If so rapid loading dock cargo loads will not knock the device? And if that's okay bomb load up fast loading 2 then you can request links charger and at least 3 cable company that you trust her and if it is wrong then it can be a normal charger cable 3? And it's smart port?
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Did you check all the links? Because I thought that the company tronsmart is good.
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Maybe they are just not active in my region, but I've never heard of them. Also, when ordering from some chinese ebay seller, you might end up with a fake.
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And Governor I take charge of a company that you trust her with 48w and 2 ports and one Fast 2 then claim it does not give me full power all?
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I seriously doubt that a device of that size is capable of delivering a continuous output of 48W. It's more likely in the 25-30W region.
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And it makes sense that kernel offers quick claim 2 and G3 D855?
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The G3 is not on the official compatibility list for QuickCharge 2.0. There may be custom kernels which enable this, but whether it's a good idea to stretch the limits on a device which already has overheating problems in its original form is up to you.
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If so rapid loading dock cargo loads will not knock the device? And if that's okay bomb load up fast loading 2 then you can request links charger and at least 3 cable company that you trust her and if it is wrong then it can be a normal charger cable 3?
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Sorry, can't figure out what you are trying to say here...
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Maybe they are just not active in my region, but I've never heard of them. Also, when ordering from some chinese ebay seller, you might end up with a fake.
I seriously doubt that a device of that size is capable of delivering a continuous output of 48W. It's more likely in the 25-30W region.
The G3 is not on the official compatibility list for QuickCharge 2.0. There may be custom kernels which enable this, but whether it's a good idea to stretch the limits on a device which already has overheating problems in its original form is up to you.
Sorry, can't figure out what you are trying to say here...
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The Governor and the instrument gives an output of 24, then that's enough for 2 and 2 fast charger?
Can you please give me links of charge with 2-port fast charging one of them 2?
And 3 high quality cables?
And that port Smart?
nbjo460 said:
The Governor and the instrument gives an output of 24, then that's enough for 2 and 2 fast charger?
Can you please give me links of charge with 2-port fast charging one of them 2?
And 3 high quality cables?
And that port Smart?
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24W are sufficient for two standard fast charging ports *or* one QuickCharge port at full power.
You will only be able to use all ports at the same time, if some devices draw significantly less than the maximum power at their respective port.
For a combined Fast/QuickCharge charger with an european plug i would probably choose something like these:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01DF165YA
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01BEMEY4U
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01KUV3Q0O
All provide QuickCharge 3.0, which may be desired by your next phone and should be upward-compatible to QC2.0.
The latter two feature a detachable power cord, which is more robust and more convenient than a wall charger. They also provide more total output power, which will actually allow you to use three ports at the same time.
All feature Smart Device detection feature on their fast charging ports.
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24W are sufficient for two standard fast charging ports *or* one QuickCharge port at full power.
You will only be able to use all ports at the same time, if some devices draw significantly less than the maximum power at their respective port.
For a combined Fast/QuickCharge charger with an european plug i would probably choose something like these:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01DF165YA
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01BEMEY4U
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01KUV3Q0O
All provide QuickCharge 3.0, which may be desired by your next phone and should be upward-compatible to QC2.0.
The latter two feature a detachable power cord, which is more robust and more convenient than a wall charger. They also provide more total output power, which will actually allow you to use three ports at the same time.
All feature Smart Device detection feature on their fast charging ports.
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You can give links from ebay because amazon not shiping this to Israel.
And you can give me links to 3 cables
Looking for some Dash Charger cables...I am wondering if anyone knows any that are a bit cheaper than OnePlus's site? hoping to find one that's a bit longer than 100cm. Maybe 6ft?
I ordered one in Aliexpress, if you ping me in a week or two I will be able to tell you whether it really supports DaSH
This one is good, but it's 1m length.
I've just receive this one, exactly the same as the official, haven't see any difference.
Voltage and Ampere values are fine too (tested with Ampere app).
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
debork said:
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Link isn't working. Please fix.
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Link isn't working. Please fix.
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Working fine here. Please use initiative.
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
Zenouzenou said:
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
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Why would you think so? The original ones are made in China, so I really don't see a difference. It's a cable, not exactly rocket science. As long as the wires are thick enough. 4A will be fine. Even if you get a fake or badly made one, the phone will not be able to dash charge, or the wire will get pretty hot. All easily identifiable and then dispose of crappy wire or just use it for data only.
No point spending more. I've one on the way from China for under 5 Usd. That's a few tries before I get to the price level of the brand name makers.
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Zenouzenou said:
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
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It's true only if you buy poor quality
Ampere & voltage are ok so...
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Got this one at 1.5m:
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Hello,
no problems with this cable? Is it safe?
Does anyone know this cheap cable?
https://www.tvc-mall.com/details/on...data-cable-1m-for-oneplus-3-sku10151025a.html
Go for amazonbasics type C cable from amazon !!
Tribune9 said:
Go for amazonbasics type C cable from amazon !!
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These aren't Dash compatible though.
Not voltage compliant - 3rd party/China chargers
debork said:
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Take a look at the last screenshot. Note the Voltage value - IN RED.
While most electronics have a fair amount of 'slack' around voltages, it's usually like 4.8 to 5.2. That 4.3V is too low. You might be getting a charge, but I'm skeptical it's all three; safe, durable and performs on par.
Jus' sayin'.
I've just received the charger and cables from the following link. Charger is oppo branded, but it works the same as a dash charger. Tested the cables with the original charger and the original cable with the oppo charger.
Seems anything that is oppo vooc is essentially the same as dash. So just need to get it through your usual Chinese reseller.
https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=536245344526&_ezgpid=20000004174482
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lordbear said:
Take a look at the last screenshot. Note the Voltage value - IN RED.
While most electronics have a fair amount of 'slack' around voltages, it's usually like 4.8 to 5.2. That 4.3V is too low. You might be getting a charge, but I'm skeptical it's all three; safe, durable and performs on par.
Jus' sayin'.
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I'm almost certain this is the battery voltage itself, i.e. what you'd get a read from /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now. This is not the same as charger/cable voltage.
At any rate, here are Ampere readouts with my official OP5 dash charger, which you can see has almost identical voltages:
w/ official OP5 cable: https://i.imgur.com/Neb9u0u.png
w/ Aliexpress 1.5m cable: https://i.imgur.com/nZbkUO4.png
I do notice that the 1.5m runs slightly lower on peak amperage, maxed out around 3.2A vs 3.4A within the 50-70% battery range I was watching it in just now.
debork said:
I'm almost certain this is the battery voltage itself, i.e. what you'd get a read from /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now. This is not the same as charger/cable voltage.
At any rate, here are Ampere readouts with my official OP5 dash charger, which you can see has almost identical voltages:
w/ official OP5 cable: https://i.imgur.com/Neb9u0u.png
w/ Aliexpress 1.5m cable: https://i.imgur.com/nZbkUO4.png
I do notice that the 1.5m runs slightly lower on peak amperage, maxed out around 3.2A vs 3.4A within the 50-70% battery range I was watching it in just now.
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Interesting. Thanks for the SS. I certainly don't understand the 4.2V value. At 70% charged, I'd think it would be a bit higher. Perhaps in operation the VReg has to over-pull from the battery to step things up to nominal...
Musing: Does DASH include some kind of "smart charge" tech that uses the USB cable circuit to polls voltage at the charger, physically? Without that, then I surmise it's measuring the voltage it sees at the USB-->DC circuit IN the phone.
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Interesting. Thanks for the SS. I certainly don't understand the 4.2V value. At 70% charged, I'd think it would be a bit higher. Perhaps in operation the VReg has to over-pull from the battery to step things up to nominal...
Musing: Does DASH include some kind of "smart charge" tech that uses the USB cable circuit to polls voltage at the charger, physically? Without that, then I surmise it's measuring the voltage it sees at the USB-->DC circuit IN the phone.
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AFAIK most smartphone lithium-ion batteries have a nominal voltage around 3.8V, charging voltage around 4.25V.
As far as DASH/VOOC charging, there definitely is some 'smart charge' stuff going on in the charger itself, which is why I'm not as worried about the cable being 3rd party, but would never think of getting a non-OPO DSH or non-OPPO VOOC charger. I couldn't speak to exactly what it does though.
Wait, now that I think of it there was some row from a Google dev a year ago or so about the proper resistor rating in 'safe' USB C cables...
Edit: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-find-safe-usb-type-c-cables ok this seems to say the danger with USBC cables is around having charging sources like laptops that can't deliver enough amperage. Which fortunately shouldn't be an issue then if you just use it with the DASH charger...
Got my DASH car charger including a cable and it works as intended with DASH mode. The cable alone also properly works with my 100% genuine wall charger.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAS...nal-1-DASH-Type-c-data-Cable/32822825492.html
What specs should I look for when looking for a 3rd party fast charger for the S23?
Just go for a Samsung brick/cable. The 25w ones are cheap and reliable.
If Samsung hadn't gotten so chintzy they still ship a complete phone set. Is that too much to ask for in a $1G flagship phone?
Samsung sucks now... more money, less perks.
Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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^That's a long overdue feature.
The OEM brick makes battery troubleshooting much easier as well. They have a very wide input voltage tolerance. The 25w brick will slow charge at 60 VAC!
blackhawk said:
^That's a long overdue feature.
The OEM brick makes battery troubleshooting much easier as well. They have a very wide input voltage tolerance. The 25w brick will slow charge at 60 VAC!
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I'm actually using my Samsung 60W charger from my book2 so I get the best of both worlds! Obviously charging is capped at 45w on the phone (which really feels like 25w...)
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Also, it will ensure you have access to the gaming functionality to have the phone plugged in and not charge the battery. If that's something you would like, then having a compatible PD charger is required. All my third party ones are not compatible... But the Samsung one is. I'm sure there are third party chargers compatible with that functionality but I couldn't tell you which.
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Hmm... Sucks that it's not compatible with third party charges. I was going to save some money and buy an Anker.
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I'm actually using my Samsung 60W charger from my book2 so I get the best of both worlds! Obviously charging is capped at 45w on the phone (which really feels like 25w...)
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My 10 yo Dell laptop has that battery charge isolation feature. It's nice to have.
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Hmm... Sucks that it's not compatible with third party charges. I was going to save some money and buy an Anker.
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It might be. I don't think I have an Anker one. The option says "with a compatible PD charger" so it's pretty vague..
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It might be. I don't think I have an Anker one. The option says "with a compatible PD charger" so it's pretty vague..
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I'll have to try my OnePlus 9 and Anker chargers. The Anker is only 30W but both of these support PD PPS.
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I'll have to try my OnePlus 9 and Anker chargers. The Anker is only 30W but both of these support PD PPS.
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The OnePlus 9 one will charge the S23U at 45W (was doing so on my S22U already).
I would make sure your charger has USB-PD with PPS. And that the PPS range it at least 12V at 5A. Most chargers limit the current in PPS mode at 3A. If the charger listing does not show the specs, try looking for "Samsung 45W", that seems to be the layman's term.
You may also need a 5A cable, a small chip in the cable telling the devices that it is capable of carrying up to 5A current.
Jaxom84 said:
The OnePlus 9 one will charge the S23U at 45W (was doing so on my S22U already).
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Sweet! Thanks! That makes me very happy.
EtherealRemnant said:
Sweet! Thanks! That makes me very happy.
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And I ordered a Spigen PowerArc ArcStation Pro that just came by (I'm slowly replacing the old chargers for GaN ones), and it also is compatible with 45W charging.
For 25,49€, it fills the needs perfectly (smaller than the 1+9 brick, power efficient, more affordable).
I got the '45W USB C Super Fast Charger, 313 Charger, Anker Ace PPS Fast Charger Supports Super Fast Charging 2.0 for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra/S23+/S23, S22/S21/S20/Note 20/Note 10' for £20.99, lucky really as its gone up to £24.99 now............interesting timing hey as when I bought it they didn't include the S23 Ultra
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I got the '45W USB C Super Fast Charger, 313 Charger, Anker Ace PPS Fast Charger Supports Super Fast Charging 2.0 for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra/S23+/S23, S22/S21/S20/Note 20/Note 10' for £20.99, lucky really as its gone up to £24.99 now............interesting timing hey as when I bought it they didn't include the S23 Ultra
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It's always a tight decision between Anker and Spigen, but recently I've been increasingly going for Spigen. The build quality is getting my favours, and they also have the "Designed for Samsung" label on an increasing number of products, which is guaranteeing that the quality is controlled and approved by our Korean friends. And as they're falling in the same price range for most of their products, if I'm buying stuff to pair with a Samsung device, then Spigen is my go to.
I've also been trying some Baseus products (docking station and USB cables), they're quite good in that segment of products too.
The handy size of the Anker done it for me