Love the phone, but I swear I'm gonna wait next time around. So far, being an early adopter has brought:
-Cases that don't fit
-Screen protectors that don't stick, or hamper the device
-A mess of cables
-Chargers that won't charge, or worse could fry something
Not to mention it's proven moot to order on day one in hopes you'll get the device earlier. That could change but still, whatever. That 820 though. Two times the power two times the efficiency
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Love the phone, but I swear I'm gonna wait next time around. So far, being an early adopter has brought:
-Cases that don't fit
-Screen protectors that don't stick, or hamper the device
-A mess of cables
-Chargers that won't charge, or worse could fry something
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All the reasons you list got nothing to do with the phone.
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Ordered 29th September order still pending. If I order today phone ships tomorrow. GOOGLE SUPPORT,? I could buy a jock strap with better support.
akenis said:
Love the phone, but I swear I'm gonna wait next time around.
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Don't mind me I'm just enjoying Marshmallow.
So far, being an early adopter has brought:
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Seriously though this doesn't effect me much.
-Cases that don't fit
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- Don't like cases. Never have. Have yet to break a screen on a phone in the last 6 years or so. I'm gentle.
-Screen protectors that don't stick, or hamper the device
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- Never use a screen protector either. I did tests in school to show most screen protectors actually increase the chances of your screen shattering as opposed to not having one on. They are good for keeping your screen scratch free but we have Gorilla Glass 4 here people.
-A mess of cables
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- Mess of cables. Well this won't end anytime soon. I have duffel bags full of wires and chargers. So yes another added charger type is a pain, but i'm loving the charge time compared to my Note 4 Fast Charging.
-Chargers that won't charge, or worse could fry something
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- Uh ok then. Mines good.
tacosrdelicioso said:
Not to mention it's proven moot to order on day one in hopes you'll get the device earlier. That could change but still, whatever. That 820 though. Two times the power two times the efficiency
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I know! Makes me want to wait! Probably won't have it in a phone till spring but in November maybe a nexus 6P 2016(or maybe 6P2? Or 6Q?)?
tacosrdelicioso said:
Not to mention it's proven moot to order on day one in hopes you'll get the device earlier. That could change but still, whatever. That 820 though. Two times the power two times the efficiency
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That's the whole idea of being an early adopter. Taking a risk. Being an early adopter doesn't guarantee you will get a perfect product everytime. I enjoy the risk, and if it doesn't work out, my credit card company ensures i get my money back.
So please stop calling yourself an early adopter if you cannot accept the risk, especially with your issues that involve 3rd party accessories and not the phone itself.
I've purchased every Nexus phone at launch and a few tablets. I've never had a "bad" device or filed a RMA. Either I'm really, really lucky or I don't get worked up about very minor things...
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I must have a Nexus preorder 'rush' every year, learning the device challenge and flashing asap on XDA! Everything thing has worked out well so far.
Bought the clear case from Google and it fits perfect. Got a illumishield screen protector off eBay and again, fits perfect.
ordered screen protector off amazon oct 30th and shipped then and still hasnt arrived. ordered skinomi yesterday or day before and be here by monday. cant use the phone until i got that on it
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I've purchased every Nexus phone at launch and a few tablets. I've never had a "bad" device or filed a RMA. Either I'm really, really lucky or I don't get worked up about very minor things...
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It's always the vocal ones that have something bad to say against the nexus program. I've never had any problem with any of the nexus purchases i've made. The more vocal ones on the forums complain about the minor things like you said, yellow screen, pink screen, etc etc. Most of the complains are user error or "OCD" problems.
My OP was partially in jest.... Don't mean to complain.
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I've purchased every Nexus phone at launch and a few tablets. I've never had a "bad" device or filed a RMA. Either I'm really, really lucky or I don't get worked up about very minor things...
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airwa1kin7 said:
Don't mind me I'm just enjoying Marshmallow.
Seriously though this doesn't effect me much.
- Don't like cases. Never have. Have yet to break a screen on a phone in the last 6 years or so. I'm gentle.
- Never use a screen protector either. I did tests in school to show most screen protectors actually increase the chances of your screen shattering as opposed to not having one on. They are good for keeping your screen scratch free but we have Gorilla Glass 4 here people.
- Mess of cables. Well this won't end anytime soon. I have duffel bags full of wires and chargers. So yes another added charger type is a pain, but i'm loving the charge time compared to my Note 4 Fast Charging.
- Uh ok then. Mines good.
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Wow, that the longest empty post I've ever seen!
Funny thing. The vast majority use cases, screen protectors, and are somewhat annoyed at the mess that is aftermarket USB C.
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Wow, that the longest empty post I've ever seen!
Funny thing. The vast majority use cases, screen protectors, and are somewhat annoyed at the mess that is aftermarket USB C.
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An empty post? Ridic. I couldn't have said it better myself. Haters gonna hate. Best phone I ever got on day 2 order. But it's becoming a chore to negate the detractors. Are any of them shills? I certainly hope that is not the case. Although I did read that they are paid to trash other devices. Could not be right?
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An empty post? Ridic. I couldn't have said it better myself. Haters gonna hate. Best phone I ever got on day 2 order. But it's becoming a chore to negate the detractors. Are any of them shills? I certainly hope that is not the case. Although I did read that they are paid to trash other devices. Could not be right?
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Oh lord...please stop.
No ones hating. He simply stated that the frustration of not being able to buy fully functioning accessories for a brand new flagship device has him contemplating waiting for things to be stable before making a purchase next time.
No ones hating. It's a valid frustration. Not bring able to protect your device, charge it in the car etc. He's not blaming the device. He didn't say he doesn't like it. He simply said he might wait for the dust to settle next time...
The conspiracy theories of members actually being rival manufacturers shill posters posting these generally vague negatives are just ridiculous. Anytime someone has a gripe, complaint, or problem people start defending the phone like its their deceased brother that the have to protect their legacy at any cost. It's so out of hand...
And once again this just goes to show what happens when people get a development device and want accessories right away. You will find they make few things for devices like this. You will find far better cases, cords and screen protectors for mainstream devices.
Sorry, I have to disagree with that.
Nexus isn't a development device anymore. When they're advertising them on hulu commercials while streaming "The Voice", they've officially relinquished the development device title. At least as the primary target audience.
These nexii are aimed at everyone now. They're not the crude, buggy dark Android devices of the past. They're the clean Android showcase, and they're designed for everyone.
Again though, I'm not blaming Google for anything. It's frustrating that these 3rd party companies rush what are advertised as pricey. Quality items. OPs main point was that he might want to wait next time.for the dust to settle before purchasing a device, as to not deal with shoddy out of spec items.
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Sorry, I have to disagree with that.
Nexus isn't a development device anymore. When they're advertising them on hulu commercials while streaming "The Voice", they've officially relinquished the development device title. At least as the primary target audience.
These nexii are aimed at everyone now. They're not the crude, buggy dark Android devices of the past. They're the clean Android showcase, and they're designed for everyone.
Again though, I'm not blaming Google for anything. It's frustrating that these 3rd party companies rush what are advertised as pricey. Quality items. OPs main point was that he might want to wait next time.for the dust to settle before purchasing a device, as to not deal with shoddy out of spec items.
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The nexus will always be mainly a development device. Other wise things like Root and unlocking the bootloader would be much harder. Even commercials target a a group of people. Couldnt really say as I have never even seen a commercial for it but that could be the simple fact that I dont watch commercials at all. I mean really look at it. What devices are shown at Google I/O which is a developers conference. Not mainstream devices, no flagships just the nexus devices. Their main target has always been developers. yes they may target the average joe but they are the secondary targets at best.
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Noticing a whole stack of them in the case at a local Bestbuy, I asked 2 store managers and 2 other dept employees about the new Razr. They ALL said it was a non-event, although Motorola had invested $mils in advertising. Evidently, it was designed and put into production months ago, and nowadays that's just not quick enough for the Android market. Things simply evolve much faster than Motorola's bureaucracy can adjust.
Biggest reason customers put it back on the shelf: Soldered in, non-replaceable battery.
Reason #2 : The screen is a yawner. It's boring, old news.
Reason #3 : It's new, it's gonna have bugs, and customers simply don't have to put up with that.
#4: $299 w/contract - and you're stuck with it for 2 years.
Is this phone locked? Can it be flashed? Just curious - one of them told me it can't be rom'ed. Would Mot be that monopolistic ?
According to one of the phone-dept workers, a good chunk of sales have been returned overnight after a disappointing unboxing/testing.
Frankly, I thought the phone was a pretty solid piece of work - especially compared to the plastic Samsungs. I love it's little slots on the side for XD cards, NICE touch. But alas, the screen is, well, is just isn't. Not with the 1200x800's about to hit around Thanksgiving.
Oh well, one of them said Mot's is already planning a Razr-2 in Jan to fix all this stuff, but now they're behind the power curve. Who knows.
I think Amazon offering the phone for $111.11 or Costco including $100+ in extras is why Best Buy isn't selling many.
-JP
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I think Amazon offering the phone for $111.11 or Costco including $100+ in extras is why Best Buy isn't selling many.
-JP
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This.
Also the phone needs recovery at this point I believe. It can certainly be "Rom-ed" but it just can't be "Kernel'ed". That is a pretty lame deal breaker if you want a phone simply to install different kernels to boost your quadrant scores that no one cares about.
If you ask me I agree the phone is amazing, I love it. The screen is mind blowing to me, so I have no problem paying that and being in a contract for it. I guess one needs to consider all the options customers have at this point, mainly with the iphone on verizon now. Every average jo wants an iphone just cause his neighbor has one.
Anyone true tech enthusiast wouldn't buy from Best Buy LOL (I've went there with a friend that insisted I do for Black Friday). That place is terrible and is a total rip off. Geek squad and the employees (I haven't spoke to a single one that seems to know what they're doing/talking about) yeah they're something else. I highly doubt there's going to be a RAZR 2 coming out in Jan, it's probably the DROID 4, which has similar design but also has a physical keyboard. If it definitely is the the RAZR 2 this will be my last Motorola phone period. If their solution is to just make a new device like 2-3 months later, instead of supporting their most current phones, then that's a bad business model for sure.
Sure there probably will be a RAZR 2, but I personally hope not, seeing it would kinda tarnish the fact that it's a unique device/name series. But yeah with Amazon selling the device for 111.11 on 11/11 and Costco with that beast package, and a good majority of people pre ordering to get the phone early (one day w00t). It's not a surprise that Best Buy isn't pushing the phones like hotcakes. Also I would take anything that Best Buy tells you about Android rumors with a grain of salt.
I wouldn't go to best buy if they were the ONLY brick and mortar selling phones. I'd wait the 2 days for UPS.
Anyone with good common sense wouldn't go to BB for their phones even with their instant rebate deals. Their "insurance" plan is a rip off and the fact Amazon was selling it for 111.11 on the day of release (as someone said earlier) is reason enough for BB to not see this phone flying off shelves.
Add to the fact, all the advertising dollars Verizon spent, pointed to the phone being sold BY VERIZON STORES. I have a friend who works for verizon and she sold out of the RAZR within a couple hours and her store had a couple hundred of them.
SO don't go drinking Best Buy's kool aid. Especially when they know nothing of phones (let alone the products they sell as a whole)
the OP is completely full of crap... so is anyone else that says the removable battery is a "no go". did the soldered in battery hurt Iphone?
the screen on this phone is fantastic, anyone who wants to complain about it is a person that will never be happy with anything.
bugs? this is the least buggy phone that i have ever owned.
im nowhere near a moto fan boy, but these complainers need to jus STFU, the Razr is a sweet phone.......
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SO don't go drinking Best Buy's kool aid. Especially when they know nothing of phones (let alone the products they sell as a whole)
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I lol'd. BB is terrible for computers/phones etc (Newegg for life!). Anyways the fact that they're saying there's a RAZR 2 coming out in like 4 months yeahhh no. Droid 4 probably aka RAZR jr w/ a keyboard, will be nice for those that crave physical keyborads. But I doubt moto is gonna pull another "Bionic" deal with the RAZR. Replacing their flagship so soon after it comes out, I'm trying to retain faith lol.
They do have a 30 day return policy. Also the insurance gets you a new phone (but you have to wait 17 months to get it).
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I gotta admit it's faster than my amaze and even my gs2, this thing is SNAPPY without even being modded yet
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They do have a 30 day return policy. Also the insurance gets you a new phone (but you have to wait 17 months to get it).
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If I wanted to buy a phone in store I'd go with Costco. 90 day return policy +
sexy bundles.
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I gotta admit it's faster than my amaze and even my gs2, this thing is SNAPPY without even being modded yet
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Imo it's all about software optimization. Hardware on these phones are ahead of the software that's out there for sure. GS2 is a beast when it first came out, and still is.
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Biggest reason customers put it back on the shelf: Soldered in, non-replaceable battery.
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Not soldered, check this link. I guess the people you were talking to don't really know their stuff.
What I want to know is this guys "source" stating there's going to be a RAZR 2 coming out in Jan. Ahh those BB kids will say anything now adays.
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Biggest reason customers put it back on the shelf: Soldered in, non-replaceable battery.
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WTF? The battery is replaceable: it isn't soldered. You need to remove two screws on the battery flat cable and your battery can be removed.
Yup, not like other phones where you simply use your fingers, but that's it.
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Reason #2 : The screen is a yawner. It's boring, old news.
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I think not so many devices are built with AMOLED displays (powerwise, good vibrance, good color).
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Reason #3 : It's new, it's gonna have bugs, and customers simply don't have to put up with that.
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I don't think so. Motorola have learnt this from his past. Milestone was buggy.. but watch at the first ATRIX ROM: there wasn't any important bug at all. They've only enhanced its speed with the updates as personally I haven't noticed any bug.
And anyway, every first S/W version of every pda has got some bugs, that's absolutely normal, with the exception that Motorola is very fast at updates.
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#4: $299 w/contract - and you're stuck with it for 2 years.
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I've bought it at 550 euros. It's mine and I'm not stuck with it for 35 years
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Is this phone locked? Can it be flashed? Just curious - one of them told me it can't be rom'ed. Would Mot be that monopolistic ?
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This device is another exception in Motorola's policies. Moto uses to sign their devices forever, but as Moto said and confirmed publicly, like happened on ATRIX for the Gingerbread update, when RAZR will get ICS, Moto will give us an unlockable bootloader, thing that is SURE for non branded devices and for branded ones (like Verizon's...) it's about the operator.
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I know of some guys that have bought the RAZR, unboxed, tested for 30 minutes and then re-sold it. It was too big for their hands. I don't know other bad things as for now.
Anyway, in my opinion, you should try the device in a store prior buying it, especially if it is a big device and you've got small hands.
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Frankly, I thought the phone was a pretty solid piece of work - especially compared to the plastic Samsungs. I love it's little slots on the side for XD cards, NICE touch. But alas, the screen is, well, is just isn't. Not with the 1200x800's about to hit around Thanksgiving.
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Oh damn, my SGS2 won't resist to a drop on asphalt, while my ATRIX is still alive. Moto's build quality has ever been Moto's build quality
As for the screen, it's really, really good because it's an AMOLED display.. but I have to admit I haven't ever liked the PenTile matrix.
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Oh well, one of them said Mot's is already planning a Razr-2 in Jan to fix all this stuff, but now they're behind the power curve. Who knows.
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Mmh, I don't think so, at least for now. They've just released the RAZR.
That would cut their RAZR sales and make them lose a lot of money.
I guess everyone who did buy a RAZR, and is happy with it (myself included) should throw our device away and hang our heads in share, based on this information from the always solid reliable and correct Best Buy store employees.
Anyone know what the Costco bundle for the RAZR comes with?
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Not soldered, check this link. I guess the people you were talking to don't really know their stuff.
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lmao that's a big a$$ knife
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I guess everyone who did buy a RAZR, and is happy with it (myself included) should throw our device away and hang our heads in share, based on this information from the always solid reliable and correct Best Buy store employees.
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Yes! Cause we all know that Best Buy store employees are always right !!!!
Since I agree with most of these Bestbuy comments, I made a trip over to the Verizon store. Hit 3 actually, one is the largest in the state. Guess what - there were dozens of new razr's in stock there too.
Not convinced, I asked around, speaking to 3-4 employees in each store. They all said the same thing the Bestbuy people did - the phone is a 7 month old semi face lift of some earlier Mot phone, and simply put nobody cares for it and nobody's impressed. Same list of complaints earlier in this thread.
"What's everybody waiting for" I asked? Everyone said the same thing: the high res screens that are about to hit. Namely the SAMSUNG Nexus is the first of a long list of new generation phones, we may see 6-7 by EOY they told me
First off: I am not anti-Google. I use all the main Google apps. I have had four Android phones, own 2 Nexus 7's and would take Android over iOS any day of the week.
But...
I am through with this piece of crap that passes for the Nexus 10.
Since buying this thing when it first came out I have had to put up with dodgy wifi connections, creaky flexing back panels, random freezes and reboots, and - worst of all - deal-breakingly poor quality control on the screens. I have been through several RMAs with Google Play (to the point where they are refusing to send me any more replacements - and at the moment they are not even replying to my emails) and am now on my 5th device. All of the devices have had unacceptable levels of light bleed, and - worse still - blotchy screens with uneven yellow or blue tints. I have been through nightmares with the Play store and TNT trying to get devices returned and shipped, and have a pile of email correspondence so long that it could be turned into a Peter Jackson trilogy. The Play store is staffed by some of the greatest morons that I have ever had the misfortune to have to deal with. I have constantly been given wrong or misleading information, and have had to harass and badger them at every stage to get anything done. I still have a device listed as 'pending' on my Google Wallet that has long since been returned, despite being told on numerous occasions that an 'expert' was going to remove it.
For anyone with a perfect device, or who is just happy with their's however it is: I am genuinely pleased for you. This could, and more importantly, should, have been an amazing piece of kit. But as it is, my time with the Nexus 10 has been, without any shadow of a doubt, the absolute worst customer experience I have had in my entire life, by a long country mile.
My blotchy, creaky, light bleedy slab of **** is going back. I'll be getting a full refund and returning to my long neglected iPad. Which actually works like it's supposed to.
YMMV
my two cents
When you got the second sample and were still unhappy then it was masochistic to keep trying. You should have given up and ended the pain way before getting to the fifth device. Clearly it is not designed to the quality you require and most, if not all, of the samples were probably typical of the quality of everyone else's.
Crap is in the eye of the beholder. Many others, including myself, are not sensitive to the defects you point out. I don't care about an occasional reboot (which only happened in the first day for me), the light bleed, case cracking sounds, etc. Different people have different needs.
You were asking the support people to make the product right for you, which is probably impossible given that particular design. How do you expect them to behave? They certainly aren't going to say the nexus 10 is **** and they also can't say that you are wrong. The nexus 10 is not **** for most people and you are not wrong for wanting a particular level of quality.
To make a long story short you should walk away and spend your energy finding something better instead of banging your head against a lost cause.
+1 for "my two cents"
Well it took me forever to get a good one... Returns and repairs but its pretty good now.
Funny you praise the nexus 7 while cursing this one. I got 8 crap n7s in a row. Finding one without bleed and lifted screen is like finding a unicorn. The ones not plagued by screen issues are pretty cool... The same can be said for the n10.
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First off: I am not anti-Google. I use all the main Google apps. I have had four Android phones, own 2 Nexus 7's and would take Android over iOS any day of the week.
But...
I am through with this piece of crap that passes for the Nexus 10.
Since buying this thing when it first came out I have had to put up with dodgy wifi connections, creaky flexing back panels, random freezes and reboots, and - worst of all - deal-breakingly poor quality control on the screens. I have been through several RMAs with Google Play (to the point where they are refusing to send me any more replacements - and at the moment they are not even replying to my emails) and am now on my 5th device. All of the devices have had unacceptable levels of light bleed, and - worse still - blotchy screens with uneven yellow or blue tints. I have been through nightmares with the Play store and TNT trying to get devices returned and shipped, and have a pile of email correspondence so long that it could be turned into a Peter Jackson trilogy. The Play store is staffed by some of the greatest morons that I have ever had the misfortune to have to deal with. I have constantly been given wrong or misleading information, and have had to harass and badger them at every stage to get anything done. I still have a device listed as 'pending' on my Google Wallet that has long since been returned, despite being told on numerous occasions that an 'expert' was going to remove it.
For anyone with a perfect device, or who is just happy with their's however it is: I am genuinely pleased for you. This could, and more importantly, should, have been an amazing piece of kit. But as it is, my time with the Nexus 10 has been, without any shadow of a doubt, the absolute worst customer experience I have had in my entire life, by a long country mile.
My blotchy, creaky, light bleedy slab of **** is going back. I'll be getting a full refund and returning to my long neglected iPad. Which actually works like it's supposed to.
YMMV
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Cool story
You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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It is possible @boominski is a troll. Just saying.
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You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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He is sharing his bad experience. Anyone looking to buy a Nexus 10 should be aware of both the good side, and bad sides.
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He is sharing his bad experience. Anyone looking to buy a Nexus 10 should be aware of both the good side, and bad sides.
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There is a difference between useful sharing of a bad experience and trashing it. He seems to be saying that he was harmed and the world owes him something. No company owes anyone anything unless they misrepresent the product or are outright fraudulent.
I actually feel sorry for the support team on this one. Sending 5 units is beyond the call of duty. I would quit responding to his emails also. A friend of mine worked in support and he called these customers "screamers". There was nothing you could do to make them happy. He wanted to tell them to give up and buy a competitors product but he could have lost his job for saying that.
It is *possible* he is an apple fan coming here to troll. I'm not accusing him but I've seen this on other forums many times. The fact that he says he is going back to his iPad is a clue.
I feel so sorry to the customer service handle your case.
Such customer shall be doing such job to learn the lesson.
Requesting 5 times changing was ridiculous. If 2nd change not fulfil your requirements. Stop continue and by just requested for full refund as it was known the thing never right nor matter how many times you change it.
It was great for your continue using back your satisfied iPad.
Think twice in future before repeating such hilarious attitude.
Idk, on one hand, if he really wanted the device, 5 tries at it doesn't seem too bad. On the other hand, if decent QC was actually existent, then so many replacements wouldn't have to be issued to find an "acceptable" device (for $400 I wouldn't deal with excessive screen bleed nor a creaky back either; luckily I have neither on my first device though).
So, it's either deal with the QC flaws on a $400 device, or annoy CS because of lack of QC. Maybe annoying them will actually make Google/Samsung do some better QC
As for the Apple part, I do agree it is kind of unnecessary. But then again if that's the tablet that works for him, then meh.
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There is a difference between useful sharing of a bad experience and trashing it. He seems to be saying that he was harmed and the world owes him something. No company owes anyone anything unless they misrepresent the product or are outright fraudulent.
I actually feel sorry for the support team on this one. Sending 5 units is beyond the call of duty. I would quit responding to his emails also. A friend of mine worked in support and he called these customers "screamers". There was nothing you could do to make them happy. He wanted to tell them to give up and buy a competitors product but he could have lost his job for saying that.
It is *possible* he is an apple fan coming here to troll. I'm not accusing him but I've seen this on other forums many times. The fact that he says he is going back to his iPad is a clue.
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Not trolling at all. Actually reading this on my Nexus 7 rather than my iPad. Android is so far ahead of iOS it feels like a backward step to have to use it. Was going to sell the thing if the Nexus 10 turned out right. Such a shame since the N10 pisses all over the iPad in every respect. Apart from the defective screen, obviously. I can overlook the creaks (put it in a case) and the light bleed (don't watch films in the dark).I can even overlook the WiFi and reboot issues, but an uneven screen is a deal breaker. I use my tablets primarily for reading, so yellow patches are highly distracting. And as for the Play Store staff: I have come across some who have been extremely helpful, but I've also been repeatedly given wrong information, lied to and messed about. The customer service is genuinely appalling. As for just giving in: it took me three exchanges to get a decent iPad (uneven screen again), so am not inclined to throw in the towel. What would make me happy? A reasonably uniform screen. I'm not looking for perfection. I know these are mass produced consumer products. But equally I see no reason to spend £300 on something sub-standard. If Google don't want me returning things then they should get their quality control sorted out. And yes - writing this has been cathartic.
Good bye
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He is sharing his bad experience. Anyone looking to buy a Nexus 10 should be aware of both the good side, and bad sides.
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As someone who has worked in retail for 17 year in positions that involve selling the general public goods what you hear from over the top customers is usually about 40% truth and 60% exaggeration in the hopes it will escalate their problem and get it resolved quickly to `their' satisifaction. Typically what is considered `their satisfaction' is a set of goal posts that never stops moving.
The replacement collectors I pay no attention to.. There is one dude around here that his signature is how he's had 5 Nexus 10 replacements and 5 Nexus 4 replacements.. Seriously.. I can't take that seriously..
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As someone who has worked in retail for 17 year in positions that involve selling the general public goods what you hear from over the top customers is usually about 40% truth and 60% exaggeration in the hopes it will escalate their problem and get it resolved quickly to `their' satisifaction. Typically what is considered `their satisfaction' is a set of goal posts that never stops moving.
The replacement collectors I pay no attention to.. There is one dude around here that his signature is how he's had 5 Nexus 10 replacements and 5 Nexus 4 replacements.. Seriously.. I can't take that seriously..
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Which part of my post do you think is an exaggeration? The part where I said that I wasn't looking for perfection, could live with light bleed, wifi drop-outs and reboots, but drew the line at wanting a 'reasonably' even screen in terms of temperature and light distribution was a clue as to what I consider my 'goalposts' to be. My iPad isn't perfect: the screen is not 100% uniform and it has minor light bleed. My Nexus 7 isn't perfect: it has some light bleed, wifi drop-outs and the screen flicker issue. My Android phone isn't perfect: the screen is not 100% even. But are they acceptable? Yes. Because. even though consumer devices are not perfect, they are of a 'reasonable' quality.
That = 'goalposts'.
Why is that too hard for some people to understand?
Nothing in this world is perfection.
From all you write, you are finding for perfection but just not admit only.
Why life so hard? You can't be happy and satisfied forever as you are too towards for perfection. They is no such thing in this world!
this thing is sooo slugish and freezes after 4.2.2 update
this thing is going to my sisters 7 year old. I already told him if he drops and breaks it he will be doing us all a favor. ever since the 4.2.2 update it became laggy in all areas.
i think the only good thing about this thing was the ppi.....i did a lot of ebook reading.
I ordered ( just got the confirmation from microsoft) a surface pro. sorry google, i tried so many times along with 4 rma's and i just cant do this any more. please open those brick motar stores you keep talking about. it will make it easier for us to return your products.
...joe
The customer service representatives tell you to return it until you get one you are satisfied with. Not the other way around. They are quick to offer another RMA. I stopped after the second one had horrible light bleed because I didn't want to play THEIR game any more. I got a refund and got the hell out of the crappy RMA merry go round. I'm waiting to hear if they have fixed the quality control issues but sadly it still sounds like a crap shoot.
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this thing is going to my sisters 7 year old. I already told him if he drops and breaks it he will be doing us all a favor. ever since the 4.2.2 update it became laggy in all areas.
i think the only good thing about this thing was the ppi.....i did a lot of ebook reading.
I ordered ( just got the confirmation from microsoft) a surface pro. sorry google, i tried so many times along with 4 rma's and i just cant do this any more. please open those brick motar stores you keep talking about. it will make it easier for us to return your products.
...joe
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Really? for me after 4.2.2 I find the tablet is more responsiveness and battery life is improved - not sluggish at all. I have not had a reboot so far while using the tabet but did experience a few wifi drops (reconnected after a few seconds). Still trying to figure out where wifi drops happen as I'm running a Asus RT-N66U (with Tomato firmware).
I am running stock and lost root after the OTA upgrade. Have you tried a factory reset?
I genuinely can't believe that people see the need to RMA their N10 (or any device) due to the smallest things that they've found by specifically looking for them. Yes my N10 has light bleed and yes it did have problems with rebooting (before 4.2.2) but it doesn't bother me.
I would never use an LCD screen on full brightness in a dark room so will never notice the small amounts of light bleed it has. The reboots are a software issue that can be fixed by an update and are so infrequent that they are almost insignificant anyway. And a 'creaky back' definitely doesn't warrant getting the thing replaced; it's plastic so is bound to creak when you purposely flex it which you're not supposed to do.
Is anyone else shocked by the sheer number of people that will happily request multiple replacements because of the stupidest things and then wonder why the price increases or the customer service seems rushed? They've somehow got pay for all the testing, repackaging, restocking and reselling of these apparently 'defective' devices.
Hi all,
Lately my eyes have been set on the galaxy s6 edge as my next phone, however I am somewhat concerned about all the issues I've been hearing about it. Having a look through the comments and threads, it would seem that there are issues in regards to scratches appearing on screens, dead pixels, the edge not responding correctly, bending issues, etc. Are these issues really that widespread, and would I be better off in just getting a normal S6? Unfortunately, from my experiences, phones are very hard to replace or get fixed in my area, so I really dont want to be stuck with a phone that has issues right out of the box.
I've got the edge and I have zero problems with it.
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Hi all,
Lately my eyes have been set on the galaxy s6 edge as my next phone, however I am somewhat concerned about all the issues I've been hearing about it. Having a look through the comments and threads, it would seem that there are issues in regards to scratches appearing on screens, dead pixels, the edge not responding correctly, bending issues, etc. Are these issues really that widespread, and would I be better off in just getting a normal S6? Unfortunately, from my experiences, phones are very hard to replace or get fixed in my area, so I really dont want to be stuck with a phone that has issues right out of the box.
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I've never heard of bending issues on the S6's.
As for my Gold Platinum 64GB S6E, it's perfect. No scratches, no dead pixels, no connection issues (Sprint), no weird battery drains.
Don't be afraid of buying the S6E if that's what you really want. If something is wrong, just exchange it at the store or get your refund.
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I've never heard of bending issues on the S6's.
As for my Gold Platinum 64GB S6E, it's perfect. No scratches, no dead pixels, no connection issues (Sprint), no weird battery drains.
Don't be afraid of buying the S6E if that's what you really want. If something is wrong, just exchange it at the store or get your refund.
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I've got the edge and I have zero problems with it.
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Well, its nice to hear some stories of where everything is completely fine. Are the defects a widespread problem, or has it just been bloated up to be bigger than what it actually is?
Also, I would love to just be able to exchange it, but from my experience they will just say its your fault and then do nothing about it or pay to get it fixed.
When you go to the store check it our really well in the store and when you get back to your car. Pretty sure you have 14 days. I have 30 days because of my discount on my account. If concerned about it wait a month or two. All new phones when released usually have some quality control and bugs. Also remember that the issues are blown up on here.
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When you go to the store check it our really well in the store and when you get back to your car. Pretty sure you have 14 days. I have 30 days because of my discount on my account. If concerned about it wait a month or two. All new phones when released usually have some quality control and bugs. Also remember that the issues are blown up on here.
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Unfortunately we do not have a 14 day return day policy over here (would love to have one though). They usually give it to you in the packaging and once its opened its usually your problem, but I'll try opening it the moment I get it at the store so they know it wasnt my fault - hopefully if it is defected they will exchange it. And yes I did think about waiting a couple of months, but the carrier im on is currently offering an extra 2gb data free per month if you get it soon so I'd rather not wait!
I think I will just get the edge and make sure its not defected before I leave the store!
Dont let 100 people on a forum decide the phone purchase for you. Fantastic phone, any issues will be ironed out soon, IM sure.
If worried, just buy at shop.
So far mine in great condition.
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Dont let 100 people on a forum decide the phone purchase for you. Fantastic phone, any issues will be ironed out soon, IM sure.
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I hope my phone's scratches and pink screen can be "ironed out soon"!
Regarding bending issues- this is why I recommend keeping your Hydraulic Presses and chainsaws in a different pocket from your Phone .
Williamharv said:
Hi all,
Lately my eyes have been set on the galaxy s6 edge as my next phone, however I am somewhat concerned about all the issues I've been hearing about it. Having a look through the comments and threads, it would seem that there are issues in regards to scratches appearing on screens, dead pixels, the edge not responding correctly, bending issues, etc. Are these issues really that widespread, and would I be better off in just getting a normal S6? Unfortunately, from my experiences, phones are very hard to replace or get fixed in my area, so I really dont want to be stuck with a phone that has issues right out of the box.
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Hi, Let me assure you that if you read any forum on earth regarding any product manufactured you wouldn't make another purchase of ANYTHING, shoes, socks cars, hot water bottles, toasters etc.....
There WILL be lemons in all man made products. It is the nature of a forum where we come to generally moan and groan about what we buy. If you take it seriously or to heart you would never leave your house.
I am a complete certifiable tech junkie. I didn't need to go buy the SS6Edge. I still have a new IPhone 6, Sony Xperia Z2 and the Ultra. Not to mention a few others during the past year like the nexus 5. There have been stories about all of these devices, forums are full of negatives.
I have no doubt there will be S6 Edge lemons, there has to be in a production this size. Point is 99.5% will be fine. A tiny percentage will drive their owners to distraction, for me this came in the guise of an Asus Transformer some years ago. Considering the gear I purchase in a year though I really cant moan and you should buy what you desire with confidence. Buy from a decent retailer with a known reputation who will refund or replace IF a problem is found, now that is a genuine concern more so that what we buy but from where we buy it.
Such gear is not cheap. I am sincerely questioning my own sanity this evening after realising I have paid out 1100€ on a mobile phone, THAT worries me. :silly:
If you are of a nervous disposition keep well away from these forums or consider some facts. There have been sales of the iPhone 6 in the millions world wide and the bendgate silliness has proven to be just that, silly.
Please don't flame me if you are one of the genuine unfotunates to have bought a lemon BUT that is what they are, an exception to the rule.
Kind regards, Ryland
i have the edge i gold all seems good here little bit slack home button but i like a bit movement lol just to think i bet there has been a few million sold all ready of the s6 edge and about 2% of people are having problems which is not very many when ypu think about it
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i have the edge i gold all seems good here little bit slack home button but i like a bit movement lol just to think i bet there has been a few million sold all ready of the s6 edge and about 2% of people are having problems which is not very many when ypu think about it
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Scratched screens and pink discoloration issue is far more than 2%!
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Scratched screens and pink discoloration issue is far more than 2%!
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there is 1000s and 1000s of people who don't know what xda is or what its for just cause there is a few people on here with problems you think it means that there is loads lol there has been **** loads of the s6 edge sold but you just go of the minority that have posted about it notice how many people have not posted people only moan when some thing is wrong not when there device is fine
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there is 1000s and 1000s of people who don't know what xda is or what its for just cause there is a few people on here with problems you think it means that there is loads lol there has been **** loads of the s6 edge sold but you just go of the minority that have posted about it notice how many people have not posted people only moan when some thing is wrong not when there device is fine
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Many people have the problem but don't even notice it. There are random people on Youtube who have the pink screen problem and they don't see it. Ignorance is bliss.
There's no way the problem is 2%.
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Many people have the problem but don't even notice it. There are random people on Youtube who have the pink screen problem and they don't see it. Ignorance is bliss.
There's no way the problem is 2%.
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so lets say they sold one million for instance 2% is 20.000 units no way is there 20,000 people in that thread lol
and it seems to be affecting the black version and not the white or gold so that so it does sound plauseable that there 2% of over all sales of the handset not just on the colour could be a bit more than the 2% of the black handset sales could be closer to 10% as it is affecting black version and seems a bigger seller
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Many people have the problem but don't even notice it. There are random people on Youtube who have the pink screen problem and they don't see it. Ignorance is bliss.
There's no way the problem is 2%.
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May I respectfully ask how and where you arrive at the number 2%?
Hey for those who have purchased a faulty mobile its not a joke, not at all BUT seeing as the unit was released in America on the 10th? in some European countries on the 17th I would suggest it would be absolutely impossible to arrive at any accurate figures regarding faulty devices.
There is wide spread shortage in Europe as Samsung Europe just cant get the stock to ship out to the stores.
I would like to know how you researched this figure of 2%? The importer in this country is in such disarray due to demand they don't even know yet accurate figures for sales especially returns.
Before I am accused of being some sort of Samsung fanboy I have only returned to Samsung after my last purchase of the Note 3, now how long ago was that? I went Sony also Apple. All three have threads on this very site full of scare stories and some genuine horrors.
May I suggest you don't use unsubstantiated guess work to support some theory that as yet cannot possibly be quantified or known.
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May I respectfully ask how and where you arrive at the number 2%?
Hey for those who have purchased a faulty mobile its not a joke, not at all BUT seeing as the unit was released in America on the 10th? in some European countries on the 17th I would suggest it would be absolutely impossible to arrive at any accurate figures regarding faulty devices.
There is wide spread shortage in Europe as Samsung Europe just cant get the stock to ship out to the stores.
I would like to know how you researched this figure of 2%? The importer in this country is in such disarray due to demand they don't even know yet accurate figures for sales especially returns.
Before I am accused of being some sort of Samsung fanboy I have only returned to Samsung after my last purchase of the Note 3, now how long ago was that? I went Sony also Apple. All three have threads on this very site full of scare stories and some genuine horrors.
May I suggest you don't use unsubstantiated guess work to support some theory that as yet cannot possibly be quantified or known.
Regards,
Ryland
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I was quoting the 2% estimate from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60203785&postcount=12
For the record, I don't believe it's 2%. Scratches is probably 30% and pink screen is probably 50%, but many won't notice it.
We have a poll for scratches, should start one for pink screen as well, and that's an issue with regular S6 too.
Assuming that the accounts of the v2 fires are correct,
1) if you have a note 7, might as well keep it until you need the cash. I'm pretty certain that Samsung will discontinue the note 7 and try to buy back all the existing ones at full price. There wouldn't be a time limit to return it since it's owners right to keep it and if they decide to stop buying it back, it'll just look even worse when another one goes up in smokes. This means you have essentially a loaner/ beater phone at least until a phone you like better comes out. S8 might be only half a year from now. Regardless you should be careful especially if you don't have a v1. If you leave your phone in water when you're not using it, it should mitigate fires.
2) if you have a v1, you're better off since these only burn if you're charging. I think if you use the fast wireless charger, it'll be even more safe.
overall, I highly regret exchanging my v1 for a 2
Sorry, but assume makes an ass out of u and me. I'm happy with my Note.
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It's wait and see what Samsung will do.
This phone is worthless now even with the replacement units. The shops won't buy it used.
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I think the problems with the V2 are overblown and they have not been fully investigated. Suspiciously, some owners of faulty devices won't give them to Samsung for inspection. But rumour of production being halted is worrying. I'll not hand in my device. Best smartphone I ever owner.
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Best device I've ever owned too.. But if they won't lift the ban on planes, I'm have to give this up when it's recalled. Worse if it's not recalled but the ban isn't lifted.
Very upset about this media fuss....
I am very happy with my v2 Note 7 but,...
- I expect little to none future support.
- I fly quite a lot so I expect some frustration
- extremely poor value if I want to sell it.
Sadly, future of the N7 do not look nice. Even though I think it is the best phone at present.
So sad...
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Very upset about this media fuss....
I am very happy with my v2 Note 7 but,...
- I expect little to none future support.
- I fly quite a lot so I expect some frustration
- extremely poor value if I want to sell it.
Sadly, future of the N7 do not look nice. Even though I think it is the best phone at present.
So sad...
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My fall back is to get the dual SIM one plus three. Relatively cheap and can use on aeroplanes. Keep Note 7 for other activities.
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Best device I've ever owned too.. But if they won't lift the ban on planes, I'm have to give this up when it's recalled. Worse if it's not recalled but the ban isn't lifted.
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I will still keep my note 7, this is the best phone I can get in the current market~
Hope Samsung can totally solve this problem.... Note 7 was a nice phone overall...
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I owned "v1" for 45 day (from Aug 17th to Oct 1st ), daily charge, no issue at all.
I own "v2" for 9 days now (from Oct 1st), still no issue with daily charge. not even slight warming.
I am not sure if my rational is valid, but once the device go through a dozen or so complete power cycle, there is properly nothing wrong with the battery , since it's a manufacturing defect, it should be caught early if it exist.
And I do believe it's a manufacturing defect as opposed to a defect by design, because if it was by design most likely there will be a lot more cases than a dozen out of millions.
If you are concerned about your device, I guess for now just disable the fast charging and only charge it to 80% or so.
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Assuming that the accounts of the v2 fires are correct,
1) if you have a note 7, might as well keep it until you need the cash. I'm pretty certain that Samsung will discontinue the note 7 and try to buy back all the existing ones at full price. There wouldn't be a time limit to return it since it's owners right to keep it and if they decide to stop buying it back, it'll just look even worse when another one goes up in smokes. This means you have essentially a loaner/ beater phone at least until a phone you like better comes out. S8 might be only half a year from now. Regardless you should be careful especially if you don't have a v1. If you leave your phone in water when you're not using it, it should mitigate fires.
2) if you have a v1, you're better off since these only burn if you're charging. I think if you use the fast wireless charger, it'll be even more safe.
overall, I highly regret exchanging my v1 for a 2
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Are you sure US carriers will let you trade it in at anytime ? Because I want to get the iPhone 7 plus but verizon won't ship till late November.. will they let me keep it till then or is there a window to return my note 7? It is also leased will they reimburse the payments and tax that i paid? Seems so complicating
Samsung is now saying power down BOTH OLD AND NEW Note 7's
https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
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Samsung is now saying power down BOTH OLD AND NEW Note 7's
https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
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Not giving up my Note 7
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Not giving up my Note 7
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That's not a wise move.
http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
Samsung Kills Off Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone...Sorry to say...So Long...Goodbye!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/business/international/samsung-galaxy-note7-terminated.html?_r=0
Some real brilliant mouths out there are saying Sammy should kill the Note line all together..I think that's a bad mistake because that's Samsungs Flagship that battles the Iphone juggernaut and I will forever be pissed off if I cant have my Sammy Note device!
I do feel that this totally sucks ..I love the phone and have the V2
I have ordered the Pixel XL but it simply doesn't have the capabilities of the Note 7 so I am in a pickle I guess I can keep it till the G8 comes out but I sure hate to think Ill have to eat $928 in the long run and "YES" I was thinking while in bed late night....what if all of a sudden I smell smoke ??
For those of us that switched carriers and don't have a backup phone, this kind of leaves us in an inconvenient position. Samsung should at least give us a loaner phone until we decide the phone we want if they want us to return the note 7. For now, using the note 7 as a loaner device is more rational than returning it and buying a phone that we are not content with.
Also, make sure to not bring the Note 7 on the plane! That is one place that can have tragic consequences not worth the risk.
There will be some collectors and last few pieces will go for double the price
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That's not a wise move.
http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
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All these problems are only in USA
here in dubai my replacement works fine :fingers-crossed:
Heres my take on the situation. Samsung has NOT completed their investigation yet, and until they do, for all anyone knows, the devices were mistreated horribly by their users. Out of FOUR MILLION phones, only 35 explode, and of the replacement units only 7? Lets say the first generation was bad, and only count the replacements. 7 out of 4 million. That is a 0.000175% chance of your phone exploding. So, they discontinued the line for less than an even 1% chance, without waiting for the investigation to be completed? COME ON. A 0.000175 chance of a phone exploding is not enough to say that the 7 users who had problems... Didn't tamper with the phone in some horrible way: IE severe drop testing, severe underwater testing, etc. They arent even considering user error as a factor here.
I for one will not even be looking into returning mine until they announce the investigation is complete AND announce the results of said investigation.
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Heres my take on the situation. Samsung has NOT completed their investigation yet, and until they do, for all anyone knows, the devices were mistreated horribly by their users. Out of FOUR MILLION phones, only 35 explode, and of the replacement units only 7? Lets say the first generation was bad, and only count the replacements. 7 out of 4 million. That is a 0.000175% chance of your phone exploding. So, they discontinued the line for less than an even 1% chance, without waiting for the investigation to be completed? COME ON. A 0.000175 chance of a phone exploding is not enough to say that the 7 users who had problems... Didn't tamper with the phone in some horrible way: IE severe drop testing, severe underwater testing, etc. They arent even considering user error as a factor here.
I for one will not even be looking into returning mine until they announce the investigation is complete AND announce the results of said investigation.
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2.5 million units sold.
35 reported cases when Samsung announced the first exchange. There could be more in between.
And the final nail was 6 cases in as many days, all replacement units in the US alone.
I am also very reluctant to return my Note 7. But Samsung themselevs can't figure out what's actually causing it to blow up. The incidents appear to be very spontaneous and random. Even when the unit is turned off or not charging.
I am also not sure if I should take the risk and keep it. I know, officially and legally, we've already been advised to shut it off and not use it. So any damages or injuries from here is purely at our own risk.
Samsung could continue with their investigations. Question is, if they finally figure out what went wrong, will they refurbish it and continue supporting the device for diehards like us? Or will they just take this lesson and apply it to the next model?
There is also a possibility that Samsung could release a firmware to cripple the phone entirely. They managed to limit the charging to 60/80%, they can do far worse.
Too many questions, so little answers.
Pre-ordered the second it opened up. For foldables I've had the Z Fold 1 and 2, as well as the the X Fold. Love folders despite the problems and I'm looking forward to getting back into a Pixel without giving up my folding action.
I'll be selling the watch new in the box, anyone know how one goes about that?
im in australia so i cant buy it, its not like i could afford it anyways lmao
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Pre-ordered the second it opened up. For foldables I've had the Z Fold 1 and 2, as well as the the X Fold. Love folders despite the problems and I'm looking forward to getting back into a Pixel without giving up my folding action.
I'll be selling the watch new in the box, anyone know how one goes about that?
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I'm all in also. Was thinking about holding off until the 8 Pro... especially since it's supposed to have a flat screen, but nah. A foldable seems like it'll be more fun.
Not really concerned about the price or or any other first glance, hot takes from influencers. I am however concerned about durability as I've never had a folding device. I made sure to select the Pixel protection (or whatever the heck it's called) option from the Google Store.
Anyhow, you should start the traditional pre-order/shipping/delivery thread.
Edit: I started the shipping thread.
For the price of a new Google Pixel Fold I'd prefer to buy a 90s Japanese hatchback instead
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Pre-ordered the second it opened up. For foldables I've had the Z Fold 1 and 2, as well as the the X Fold. Love folders despite the problems and I'm looking forward to getting back into a Pixel without giving up my folding action.
I'll be selling the watch new in the box, anyone know how one goes about that?
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Currently have a fold3 and have pre-ordered the pixel fold. Love the software of the zfold and think it's a better phone. Unfortunately the aspect ratio is rubbish and this is the one place pixel has it nailed which is why I pre-ordered. Currently have the watch 5 pro so not sure which watch to keep and which to sell.
Also I'm looking at building some custom ROMs again which I haven't been able to do on zfold 3
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Currently have a fold3 and have pre-ordered the pixel fold. Love the software of the zfold and think it's a better phone. Unfortunately the aspect ratio is rubbish and this is the one place pixel has it nailed which is why I pre-ordered. Currently have the watch 5 pro so not sure which watch to keep and which to sell.
Also I'm looking at building some custom ROMs again which I haven't been able to do on zfold 3
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i wonder what cool features custom roms will bring to folding phones, itll be exciting to see
I also pre-ordered. They almost priced themselves out of a sale to me, but they offered me a GREAT deal on my trade-in, so I couldn't resist.
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Porting
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i wonder what cool features custom roms will bring to folding phones, itll be exciting to see
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Getting anything from the pixel 7 booting like aicp or paranoid Android booted won't be too difficult but how well they'll work with the dual screen is a bigger question. Hopefully some more talented people than me will work on the fold as well
I have about the same luck with folders as I do rectangles as far as durability goes so I'm not losing sleep over it.
I can say for sure, it's hard to go back to the old rectangle after having a folding phone. You can, it just feels so limiting.
krabman said:
I have about the same luck with folders as I do rectangles as far as durability goes so I'm not losing sleep over it.
I can say for sure, it's hard to go back to the old rectangle after having a folding phone. You can, it just feels so limiting.
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Thx for the reassurance on durability. First foldable I'll have, so wasn't sure... hence the protection.
In fairness I don't break too many phones and while there is an inherent weakness in the screen and folding mechanism that doesn't exist with a rectangle your handling tends to necessarily be more careful.
I'm not talking about walking around on eggshells, it's the form factor itself. Foldable are heavy enough that when dropped in your jacket pocket they can actually swing the jacket around to where it will hit the car door when you get in the car. Little things like that keep you a bit more aware of the phone more than you are with a rectangle.
You also don't handle it the same way because you may or may not unfold it, just that possibility makes you more particular about how you hold it and keeps you from whipping it out and waving it about in the same way you do with a rectangle. It's a small thing but it's present.
I guess an easy way to quantify it might be to wander over to the Z fold forums and give them a quick look for issues. Pick an older phone like the Z fold 2 to give people time to break them and post about it. You won't see much there, you can break them but they're not as fragile as you might think. I know I went in expecting the worst but for me the only thing that surprised was what they survived through; not what they didn't.
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Thx for the reassurance on durability. First foldable I'll have, so wasn't sure... hence the protection.
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I've had the z fold 3 for nearly 2 years and have dropped it more times than I care to remember. Durability wise the only issue I've had is the inner screen protector. It comes unstuck/fractures along the crease. You can remove it but I just had mine replaced twice but Samsung for £10 a time
I took the screen protector off the second, left the first one on: The Z fold 1 was a little sketchy compared to the second. After some time with the ZF2 I felt comfortable removing it, feels better when swiping without it.
Thx for the responses. Wasn't really concerned about the outer portion... mainly the screen, so thanks for adding stuff about the protector in there. The only thing I've heard of regarding the Z Fold series was the protector bubbling.
I haven't broken a phone since the Nexus 4. Even then, it was just the back glass Still have it in my collection as a matter of fact.
Anyhow, I'm no longer slightly concerned about screen issues and didn't want to derail this thread. Back to being about who is in.
Im very tempted to be honest, I love the form factor, and I a always loved pixels. I'm in the UK, but can't seem to get the option to trade in my Fold 4 though.
Quick question though, with the google store, does the funds get taken from the account as soon as you ore order? Or when it ships.
jamesbilluk said:
Im very tempted to be honest, I love the form factor, and I a always loved pixels. I'm in the UK, but can't seem to get the option to trade in my Fold 4 though.
Quick question though, with the google store, does the funds get taken from the account as soon as you ore order? Or when it ships.
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It's stupid isn't it. In the USA they are offering $800 for the fold 3 but I'm in the UK also and they only offer £330 trade in. I can sell my z fold 3 on eBay for £500. Samsung and Google really screw UK user's on trade ins and freebies
I ordered using the interest free payment scheme and 1st payment comes out next month which might be before I get the device
andy242 said:
It's stupid isn't it. In the USA they are offering $800 for the fold 3 but I'm in the UK also and they only offer £330 trade in. I can sell my z fold 3 on eBay for £500. Samsung and Google really screw UK user's on trade ins and freebies
I ordered using the interest free payment scheme and 1st payment comes out next month which might be before I get the device
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Does seem really strange! We do seem to get had with the trade in prices.
I may well do the interest free payments as well. Is there an option to pay it all off in the future if needed?
jamesbilluk said:
Does seem really strange! We do seem to get had with the trade in prices.
I may well do the interest free payments as well. Is there an option to pay it all off in the future if needed?
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I've used Karna before to buy on Samsung. From what I remember there was but think might have been early repayment charge which is stupid if it's interest free
andy242 said:
I've used Karna before to buy on Samsung. From what I remember there was but think might have been early repayment charge which is stupid if it's interest free
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Ah, Klarna, I think they declined me the last time I tried to use them. I'll see if it works this time.
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Ah, Klarna, I think they declined me the last time I tried to use them. I'll see if it works this time.
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Just asked what I earn and how much my mortgage/rent was nothing else lol. Just make something up