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I'm in the market for a new/first tablet. Out of the current crop of tablets, I'd say the Sony Tablet S looks most appealing to me. However, with the Asus Transfomer Prime coming out sometime soon, getting the Sony Tablet S is a hard decision.
Here's what I want a tablet for:
+Browsing - I want a tablet that is very capable of browsing the internet with ease and fluidity.
+Work/Note-taking/productivity - I want to be able to write articles and write down lecture notes very easily. The Asus Transformer prime's keyboard looks amazing. How is the typing experience on the Sony Tablet S? I like the unique design and it looks like using a touch keyboard could be pretty fast. Is it? The Sony Tablet S also does have a fairly good looking bluetooth keyboard, but it looks like it could be pricey.
+Movies/youtube - I want a tablet that's great for watching videos. The Tablet S does have a HD screen and a "tru-black" display so it sounds optimal for that. Is it a good display in actuality?
+Front-facing camera - I need a tablet capable of doing video chat well. How good is the quality of the Sony Tablet S' front facing camera and video chatting?
+Speed - I don't need a super-powered beast, but I need something that won't struggle on a day-to-day basis and that runs fast. How's the speed and fluidity on this tablet? With the Quad-core transformer prime coming, I want to know how this actually stacks up.
+Camcorder - In actuality I don't plan on using a tablet for its camera or camcorder, but I would have some use for good video recording on a tablet. Not really a factor in my decision, but how is the video recording quality on this thing?
+Design/styling - Both the asus transfomer prime and the sony tablet s look really good. Tablet S is a little more unique but transfomer prime is a bit sleeker design. Either way I think I'd be happy with the look of the devices.
+Future Updates - Sony Ericcson has been really good with putting out updates to their phones this past year. Will Sony continue along that same way with this tablet? The specs on this tablet seem kinda last year, but it did just come out in September so I imagine support for this tablet would carry on for some time. Do you think this tablet will get updates to newer versions of android? Has Sony announced ICS for this yet?
+Pricing/availability - How much do Tablet S tend to go for new? I would imagine transformer prime would be a bit more expensive with it coming out later, but I don't know. I do know I could get a tablet S in Canada fairly easily, but I don't yet know how transformer prime will do in Canada. If tablet S is same price as transfomer prime it seems it would make more sense to go with transformer prime.
+Your opinion? - How has your experience with the Sony Tablet S been? Do you love it? Would you recommend it? Any other thoughts?
Thanks
There is a topic almost just like this 1 RIGHT UNDER! lol. But I will try and give my general opinion.
Having owned the Ipad2, Jetstream, HTC Flyer & Tablet S...
The Tablet S is proficient at everything you described (although there are some issues especially concerning the watching of Youtube vids).
It is not as good as other tablets tho... Everything the Tablet S does, the Jetstream does better, Faster & smoother. On top of that the Jetstream has so many extra bonus features.
Same goes for the Ipad2... Ipad2 does everything the Tablet S does... but better -_- lol. Except maybe flash vids...
For upgrades... I have several Sony TVs, however only 1 sony phone (X10). The X10 was the ABSOLUTE WORST PHONE I HAVE EVER USED. Updates were so late, I had stop using the phone before the first update was pushed out.
I returned my Tablet S and now use the HTC Flyer. Just my opinion... remember to try out all alternatives before investing your cash into a device.
Maedhros said:
There is a topic almost just like this 1 RIGHT UNDER! lol. But I will try and give my general opinion.
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Oops, can't believe I missed that.
Still, my question is not really vs the ipad mostly vs the other android tablet options. Been searching around the whole night and now I'm even considering the original Xoom lol. Anyways, thanks
friend if you want to recommend something good so you can spend your s1 jobs through an SD or USB using the cable because the iphone 2 is not this so in my opinion the s1 I so the pedi and give me the 15 November that the iphone tube 2 and believe me you have to send an email to the work force and if the guards have to synchronize is silly greetings
I did not understand a word of that, but thanks!
syrenz said:
+Browsing - I want a tablet that is very capable of browsing the internet with ease and fluidity.
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Very good browsing experience though Id recommend using Opera over the stock.
+Work/Note-taking/productivity - I want to be able to write articles and write down lecture notes very easily. The Asus Transformer prime's keyboard looks amazing. How is the typing experience on the Sony Tablet S? I like the unique design and it looks like using a touch keyboard could be pretty fast. Is it? The Sony Tablet S also does have a fairly good looking bluetooth keyboard, but it looks like it could be pricey.
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Stock keyboard is a bit laggy, Ive switched to split keyboard app since that was my preference on previous tablets anyway but yeah can always go the bluetooth route.
+Movies/youtube - I want a tablet that's great for watching videos. The Tablet S does have a HD screen and a "tru-black" display so it sounds optimal for that. Is it a good display in actuality?
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The display is top notch, its bright but not overly saturated with colors (ie Samsung, some people DO like that though). Video play on it great as are view angles.
+Front-facing camera - I need a tablet capable of doing video chat well. How good is the quality of the Sony Tablet S' front facing camera and video chatting?
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It is adequate for video chat but beyond that its not exactly great. The rear camera works nicely of course.
+Speed - I don't need a super-powered beast, but I need something that won't struggle on a day-to-day basis and that runs fast. How's the speed and fluidity on this tablet? With the Quad-core transformer prime coming, I want to know how this actually stacks up.
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About as smooth as any other android tablet out there.
+Camcorder - In actuality I don't plan on using a tablet for its camera or camcorder, but I would have some use for good video recording on a tablet. Not really a factor in my decision, but how is the video recording quality on this thing?
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Quite good the only drawback is no flash so dark lightning tends to be a problem.
+Design/styling - Both the asus transfomer prime and the sony tablet s look really good. Tablet S is a little more unique but transfomer prime is a bit sleeker design. Either way I think I'd be happy with the look of the devices.
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This is where S table shines, in design. The tablet is a joy to hold and use, yes its plastic but it is solid and doesnt feel "cheap". The magazine style IS noticeably easier to hold over more rectangle/boxy tablets.
+Future Updates - Sony Ericcson has been really good with putting out updates to their phones this past year. Will Sony continue along that same way with this tablet? The specs on this tablet seem kinda last year, but it did just come out in September so I imagine support for this tablet would carry on for some time. Do you think this tablet will get updates to newer versions of android? Has Sony announced ICS for this yet?
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We dont know yet to be honest, what we do know is Android 3.2 was available to d/l the day we bought our tablets so it *appears* Sony will push OS updates quickly but we'll have to see. The game store and video store came online about the time they said it would, it didnt drag out for months so another plus.
+Pricing/availability - How much do Tablet S tend to go for new? I would imagine transformer prime would be a bit more expensive with it coming out later, but I don't know. I do know I could get a tablet S in Canada fairly easily, but I don't yet know how transformer prime will do in Canada. If tablet S is same price as transfomer prime it seems it would make more sense to go with transformer prime.
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Can get the 16 gig for like 460 dollars from PC Nation.
+Your opinion? - How has your experience with the Sony Tablet S been? Do you love it? Would you recommend it? Any other thoughts?
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Coming from a motorola xoom, an ipad and usage of samsung galaxy 10 yes I love the device and would recommend it.
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Coming from a motorola xoom, an ipad and usage of samsung galaxy 10 yes I love the device and would recommend it.
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Thanks! It's interesting that you say you came from a Motorola Xoom since I have also been looking at that device. Why did you make the switch?
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(although there are some issues especially concerning the watching of Youtube vids).
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Uh-oh, what issues? Watching youtube is one of the main things I want it for.
ppl need to stop reading what this idiot Maedros guy says. He does NOT have a Sony, he cannot afford one and i see him literally SPAMMING threads about his ****ty HTC products.
There is no issue with youtube, it works great.
NO issues with youtube on my tablet
No complaints in here about youtube too..
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Thanks! It's interesting that you say you came from a Motorola Xoom since I have also been looking at that device. Why did you make the switch?
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Mine broke and was looking for a replacement, something smaller, better screen (Xoom always had a washed out look to me) and S tablet fit the bill. And yeah I dont get any complaints about Youtube, it works perfectly. My only wish for the app was if you rotate the device it kept playing the video from the same point.
So apparently google's nexus tablet will be made by asus. Personally i think it will be the asus memo announced at CES.
Google and Asustek will unveil a 7-inch co-branded tablet PC as early as May, with the model targeting Amazon's Kindle Fire and to be priced at US$199-249, according to industry sources.
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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120308PD215.html
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So apparently google's nexus tablet will be made by asus. Personally i think it will be the asus memo announced at CES.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120308PD215.html
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I do hope it is the 370t. 7 inch plus T3 best of both worlds.
I'd buy one, just for the hell of it, at $199. Hopefully Google will help subsidize this thing so they can hit that price point. A $199 ICS 7" Tegra 3 tablet with full Google services could be a killer. With the right promotions, it could compete nicely against an "iPad Mini."
Not that Android tablet makers (or Google, for that matter) have demonstrated an ability to effectively promote their products. But hey, there's always a first time!
Nothing's official yet. And as much as I like my TP, I seriously hope Asus won't be the one. None of their tablets has been perfect. So unless Google take over quality control, this could be a disaster.
Samsung is the way to go, but I guess after two hero phones, it's time to switch?
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Nothing's official yet. And as much as I like my TP, I seriously hope Asus won't be the one. None of their tablets has been perfect. So unless Google take over quality control, this could be a disaster.
Samsung is the way to go, but I guess after two hero phones, it's time to switch?
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I thought the transformer 1 was well received and one of the best android tablets you could get one it was out? Also, asus only has 2 tablets on the market.
And I dont think you could say any manufacturer has ever put out a tablet that has been perfect. A case could be made for the ipad with the lack of flash and its restrictions and what not. Its all based on preference.
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I'd buy one, just for the hell of it, at $199. Hopefully Google will help subsidize this thing so they can hit that price point. A $199 ICS 7" Tegra 3 tablet with full Google services could be a killer. With the right promotions, it could compete nicely against an "iPad Mini."
Not that Android tablet makers (or Google, for that matter) have demonstrated an ability to effectively promote their products. But hey, there's always a first time!
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I would buy one also if its that cheap. Best band for buck. No tablet maker would have something that cheaply princely with that much power. It should be a no brainstorm to choose that over a kindle fire or nook color. I can't believe I got so impatient, right before I got the prime, that I couldn't find OG transformer for the black Friday price that I almost considered getting an acer100 7in. Or a kindle fire..lol. so glad I didn't. I did have my eye on Toshiba thrive bit heard too many horror stories on its battery life. I loved the fact it had full size USB ports. Although it had tegra2, the display model in store seemed to have decent speed to it. But it wasn't priced cheap enough. Then I heard about Prime for only 100 more and way more powerful. There was no turning back once I had my mind set on Prime.
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I would buy one also if its that cheap. Best band for buck. No tablet maker would have something that cheaply princely with that much power. It should be a no brainstorm to choose that over a kindle fire or nook color. I can't believe I got so impatient, right before I got the prime, that I couldn't find OG transformer for the black Friday price that I almost considered getting an acer100 7in. Or a kindle fire..lol. so glad I didn't. I did have my eye on Toshiba thrive bit heard too many horror stories on its battery life. I loved the fact it had full size USB ports. Although it had tegra2, the display model in store seemed to have decent speed to it. But it wasn't priced cheap enough. Then I heard about Prime for only 100 more and way more powerful. There was no turning back once I had my mind set on Prime.
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Dont you hate word predict? lol.
I would buy it even at $250. As far as acer, I have an acer a100 now and its got leaked ICS, rooted, with buildprop changed to a500. Even has mod to make your micro SD as your internal. So you're not limited to 8gb or 16gb anymore. ICS made a huge difference. Smoother than prime in some cases like home screen and app drawer transition. Even stock browser is smoother. With the build.prop change I can see and play 90% of gameloft games. The only thing really sucks about it is when I HDMI out to TV it gets laggy due to only being dual core and ofcourse the battery life is only about 5 hours. I'll post a video in a bit so you can see how smooth it is.
But once the 370t comes out of course I have to get that to replace the a100.
Might take me a some time to record ICS but heres a video I made a while back when it was still on HC. So you can imagine how smoother it will be on ICS.
Everybody seems to forget that Google has bought Motorola mobility for a reason in addition to buying patents.
With Motorola, Google can build its own handset and its own tablet.
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Everybody seems to forget that Google has bought Motorola mobility for a reason in addition to buying patents.
With Motorola, Google can build its own handset and its own tablet.
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This is true but would show favoritism over other Android manufacturers. Causing them to pull out of Android scene. Which would hurt Google in the end. So its smart for Google to choose someone else to make new Google nexus device. It'll show they not favoring Motorola. Asus will likely be the creator of new Google Nexus tablet n it'll be powered by tegra3. With new reports now of Qualcomm S4 chips having manufacturing delays and setbacks, alot of new android devices that were going to use that chip will be delayed Now. Which leaves the door wide open for Tegra3 to continue being the top most powerful Android chip out there.
I think this is iPad and Transformer Prime killer....tablet with ultra light removable keyboard builded in stk like "smart cover".
http://www.youtube.com/user/surface?feature=results_main
It includes 2x USB ports natively not sure how they squeezed those but Bravo Microsoft. There is Zero use for an iPad at this point and its expensive add-ons, its dead.
Windows RT model: 676 g, 9.3 mm, 10.6" ClearType HD Display, 31.5 W-h, microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 32 GB or 64 GB.
Windows 8 Pro: 903 g, 13.5 mm, 10.6" ClearType Full HD Display, 42 W-h, microSDXC, USB 3.0, Mini DisplayPort Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 64 GB or 128 GB.
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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I don't know if it will kill the ipad, I hope it will bring serious competition to it tho.
I've been using 8, and I absolutely dig it. I think software wise the pieces are falling into place for windows 8 to be more of a success than people expect. With the tie in with all the content options you will have that MS provides with XBOX. The thing that they are bringing to the table that android hasn't is content.
Let me clarify we do have play but compared to what itunes offers, android lacks. Android tab makers don't seem to see past initial purchase, they seem to just want to sell you another tablet. If there were more content available then android tabs would be continuous streams of revenue.
As far as killing the prime, and as much as I love my Prime I think it kinna "fell on the sword" right after release.
The Microsoft hardware looks brilliant. I have been thoroughly disappointed with Microsoft's mobile offerings to-date. They just never seemed to "get it". I would love it if they finally got it right, but I am skeptical.
The hardware looks amazing. I'm not sold on Windows yet, I just wish there was an Android tablet that had hardware with as much quality and thought put into it as the iPad and seemingly the Surface.
The only reason why i bought prime (first tablet) was to tide over 2012, and wait for win8 tablets to become more affordable.
now that Microsoft is in the game gives me goose bumps...
i will not repeat the mistake i made with prime... will wait for the dust to settle in.
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I look forward to replacing my Prime with the Pro model of the Surface tablet.
Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Nokia?
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That looks pretty cool.. As a few people have said, MS have never really got the mobile bit right.. But we will see!
Cool commercial... Dunno about ipad/prime killer. The magnetic cover looks cool, but I wonder how it will type/sit on your lap for example.
Also, we'll first have to wait for it to actually be available and who knows what kind of other tablets will be out by then.
It's not going to kill anything, maybe apart from MS. (allthough I highly doubt that too).
Unless MS changes their licensing deal, OEMs have to pay too much for win8 making this tablet way too expensive.
Regular customers will not buy it at 400 euro's or more. The even more expensive one, with the ivy bridge chip might hit it big in the corporate section, but I doubt the "big bucks" are made there, in terms of repeating customers and sales of for instance software due too an hugh marketshare.
Maybe in a year or two, when win8 has more marketshare and more people know about the product it might make an impact, but not this specific tablet. (allthough it does look nice). But then again, what do we really know of these tablets? What is the batterylife in real life, what wil be the prices?
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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When the Prime was announced, we all said it was a Killer!
The only ones who got killed were the customers and ASUS reputation as quality brand.
Chill out with expectations, when has MS released a product, that was a killer?
Well, They are talking price range on the good one of about $1,000. So it will be going head to head with ultrabooks. So for twice the price a year from now it had best be better!
The last time I saw a keyboard like this was on ZX81.
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets. Just think of the myriad of MS fans that have picked up an Android product (like the TFP) just because it is not an iPad. It could, in turn lead to Windows 8 phone sales increases, though, if the Surface (and other Windows 8 tabs) are a success.
I speak from experience as I have purchased now 5 Android tablets searching for the "one". Let me tell you, I haven't found it (though, I have to say the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is as close as I have gotten thus far).
We also know that MS, like Google, has a road map that is paved with mis-steps (like the Zune - though my Zune 80GB is my favorite MP3) so yes, they still have time to screw this all up!
More and more manufacturers are going to make products like the TFP that actually work - I guess you can say that they will learn from Asus' mistakes.
Exciting tech times we live in! I am not a fanboi of any one OS or manufacturer, so really exciting for me!
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets.
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The problem is that the boundary between them will blur a lot. It's not clear that tablets by themselves will be a sustainable market. I rather suspect that what will eventually happen is that you'll carry around a core that acts as a phone, but plug it into 'docks' that add things like larger screens, input like keyboards, and so forth. (And, if wireless keeps moving along, maybe not even 'plug in'.)
I will say that I've been a Linux partisan for a while, but I do give MS credit for making solid hardware. There's a reason their mice and keyboards are still popular. From a hardware perspective, this new tablet does look solid and well-thought-out. (Including an actual kickstand? Why isn't that standard on tablets?) I don't have enough experience with Windows 8 to say if the software will really work. The problem is, Microsoft has a history of trouble sealing the deal. (Anyone remember the Zune?)
And I have to say that I'm not as down on the TF201 as some here. My wife surprised me with one (fifteenth anniversary and all), and I've been enjoying it. No, it is not a complete laptop replacement. But - aside from slow and quirky file management - it's been working well for me, and the battery life is delicious.
Maybe a few years down the road I'll buy whatever the 3rd-generation Microsoft tablet is. But for now the advantages aren't enough to make me switch from the TF201.
What I'm expecting:
- Terrible battery life on Pro
- Very high price
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I've been thinking about this as well. I really think that choice may come back to bite Google in the ass.
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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according to zdnet, MS is going the Apple route and making it themselves....
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/with-surface-tablet-microsoft-breaks-tradition/12957
I am a little confused about all these archos models. Can you install the gen 9 roms on the new Archos 97 Platinum HD?
I'm sure isn't possible: different hardware, different CPU ...
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It appears to be a rebranded Onda v972. So nevermind.
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It appears to be a rebranded Onda v972. So nevermind.
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Apart from the panel everything else is different, so no it's not. Actually the cpu/gpu part is like twice as fast than "AllWinner 31" but whatever..
Having said that it would be trully a shame if it's not to be supported by xda. It's by far the best archos tablet and (by far) the best tablet under $300.
It's one of the few android tablets I would be happy to shell out money for, the part that it is not being supported by XDA is what makes me rethink it...
edit: A oh, ok; thought this thread was about Archos *Titanium* HD ... my bad, carry on ... Still it would be a wonderful idea if any or all of those hi-res cheap tablets were to be supported by xda
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edit: A oh, ok; thought this thread was about Archos *Titanium* HD ... my bad, carry on ... Still it would be a wonderful idea if any or all of those hi-res cheap tablets were to be supported by xda
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What difference does it make if it's a 'Platinum' or a 'Titanium'?
Facts are, there were/are VERY FEW devices Archos has ever sold that worked right! And the very few that ever did they screwed up with bad firmware!
Believe it or not, there actually ARE devices that work as good (in some case actually even better) than ANYTHING from Archos.
The reason there is so little support here on xda-developers is simply because ALL Archos devices are set up in a NON-standard way compared to all of the other major manufactures of Android devices. Archos COULD be making some world leading Android devices, but they really do not want to simply because if they ever did that they could not sucker people into buying the NEXT WORTHLESS ARCHOS DEVICE. Archos is actually WORSE than most of the cell phone companies here in the U.S. in that regard.
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What difference does it makI it's a 'Platinum' or a 'Titanium'?
Facts are, there were/are VERY FEW devices Archos has ever sold that worked right! And the very few that ever did they screwed up with bad firmware!
Believe it or not, there actually ARE devices that work as good (in some case actually even better) than ANYTHING from Archos.
The reason there is so little support here on xda-developers is simply because ALL Archos devices are set up in a NON-standard way compared to all of the other major manufactures of Android devices. Archos COULD be making some world leading Android devices, but they really do not want to simply because if they ever did that they could not sucker people into buying the NEXT WORTHLESS ARCHOS DEVICE. Archos is actually WORSE than most of the cell phone companies here in the U.S. in that regard.
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I know how badly the software sucks which is why i don't buy those tablets, so much more the reason to have custom firmware to fix it. If anything custom firmware matters a lot less in devices like nexus that are already close to impeccable. It's companies like archos that needs the most to be supported by xda *because* their software sucks yet the hardware is decent and it all goes to waste...
AFAIK Archos is the only droid manufacturer that has produced decent 4:3 tablets (which dimension I find ideal for tablet usage) and as it stands it all goes to waste, because of archos bad software *and* xda's zero support to it :-\ , it's a shame trully...
It has an octo-SGX 544...I don't see how anyone who's interested in tablets could possibly pass this thing up. I wish it was possible to install Chrome OS, Ubuntu, or Windows RT on the Platinum because the GPU would be great for those things.
Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
Ideas?
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Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
Ideas?
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I wouldn't touch Asus tablets again after the mess they made of the Prime.
I know you want a dock so this doesn't really apply but if I was buying a new tablet any time soon I would probably get the new Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. The specs look great and I like the s-pen and the multitasking.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/
I suggest Nexus 10, but it has no dock as far as i know.
the only tablets with propitiatory docks are:
1. asus transformer series
2. iPad (BT though)
3. Microsoft surface (LAGGY)
4. Windows tablets (e.g. the lenovo yoga,dell XPS, sony ,etc)
personally, i would get
ONE: Asus PadFone just cause its technically the only tablet you can make 2/3G calls with
(and the asus padfone has 3 "transformable" states [phone --> tablet --> laptop/ultrabook)
PRICE: 1000
TWO Razer Edge PRO, its windows based, and we're android users, but that I7 core and dedicated grpahics is just amazing
PRICE: 1000-3000
I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
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Not the TF700?
woot.com (and its various woot-ettes) have been running sales on TF300s and TF700s of late. They only do one item per day, but they have like ten thousand sites now, so you might get lucky.
MadmanJay said:
I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Agree completely. Comparing what I could pay now for a two year old item with what a brand new one costs, doesn't make any sense. You basically have to compare what I originally paid for the Prime, new VS what I would pay today to get a similar new item. I just pulled up my Amazon.Com order for when I originally got my Prime to refresh my memory. Here was what was on it:
Prime: $474.99
Keyboard dock: $110.86
Case: $17.95
32GB Micro SD: $19.49
Shipping: $15.96
Total: $639.25 and I remember thinking I was getting a reasonably good deal at the time.
Take out the SD card and the case and it comes out to $601.81, or about the same price we paid for my Wife's new HP machine which came with the keyboard as standard. Everyone can decide for themselves if they like Windows 8. Hardware wise the Envy X2 is way faster than the Prime and it gets better battery life (similar configuration to the prime with a battery in both the tablet part and the keyboard).
But performance comparisons are not fair either. Of course the brand new Atom out performs the two year old Tegra 3. If I were buying an Android tablet today, I'd be looking for a Tegra 4 or similar,
Here is another way the analogy brakes down. Forget about an old Jag vs an old chevy. A better example is that I just bought a new 2013 Nissan truck. Now those have not changed all that much since introduced in 2005. I could probably buy two or three 2005's for what I paid for the 2013, but hey, I wanted a new one.
One final place where the analogy brakes down. A 1960's Jag qualifies as a "classic"/"vintage" where an outdated piece of computing hardware counts as "land fill" in pretty much everyone's book.
By the way, the whole purpose of this thread was not how much a prime or a windows tablet costs. The Idea was to find a newer, faster, better tablet that would also have all the features I like about the prime. Just saying.
PS: Flumpster, thanks for all your work on HB. It is because of you that the Prime is still relevant at all rather than (as I mentioned above) "land fill". It is also because of you and HB that I don't fee bad about hanging onto the Prime for a while.