Hey guys,
I've read a lot of people saying that with marshmallow they feel there isn't such a need to root. So I thought I'd create a thread for people who have decided to root and what was the main reason for you to root. I know a lot of people (myself included) root because they like trying out new ROMs and features, flashing kernels etc but it'd be interesting to know if people specifically want something extra which marshmallow doesn't provide.
For me it was:
1) Adaway
2) Titanium Back up
I rooted for the servicely and naptime apps. Also, for a few Xposed modules and maybe some kernel tweaking apps down the road. I will admit, bone stock marshmallow is pretty sweet and I would be fine running it as is. I just get a little bored and want to mess with things.
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Because why not? I don't own a 6P yet but the first thing I do out of the box is unlocking the bootloader and root my Nexi. I know I'll need it for something, some day so I do it as soon as I get the phone.
Editing doze is the primary reason I will root here in a bit. And of course maybe try some ROMs. But yes Android is getting better each version, but still the need to tweak battery (doze shorten) is needed for me.
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RogerPodacter said:
Editing doze is the primary reason I will root here in a bit. And of course maybe try some ROMs. But yes Android is getting better each version, but still the need to tweak battery (doze shorten) is needed for me.
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And how is that done? Do u mean greenify aggressive doze?
Not greenify. The doze parameters can be modified to force doze to activate immediately after screen off instead of waiting for 30 minutes of no activity. Also other doze parameters like motion, location and many others. The app called naptime in the play store will show you what I mean. Your phone battery will stay dead flat with screen off.
1. Custom ROM
2. Ads
3. Kernel
4. Titanium Backup
5. xPosed
6. TWRP nandroid
7. root only apps
Adaway and titanium backup
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Adblocking, Titanium Backup, Debloating, Buildprop Editor, Xposed. Not to mention kernels and roms.
1. Ads
2. Kernel
3. Titanium Backup
4. Xposed
5. TWRP
I don't have a 6p just yet, but I must admit that I'm pondering the usefulness of rooting it when I get it. If I find a way of getting rid of nagging ads when browsing the net - not all of them because the sites and devs need make some money - I won't root it
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Greenify and ads
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Dunno
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Ad blocking. Mobile browsing without it is crap. I would never buy another device without root/jailbreak for that reason alone. Having a Nexus there's a ton of other good reasons (including "you can"), but that is essential.
AdAway. Ran it rootless for like three weeks, but couldn't take it anymore, also use xposed or some other modifications with time.
Usually I root to remove bloat (coming from Samsung.) But the Nexus for the most part is bloat free. So I haven't jumped on the root train yet with this phone to keep Android pay since I use it every so often.
Those that root, how do you keep Android pay working? Or do you not care for it?
rp1226 said:
Usually I root to remove bloat (coming from Samsung.) But the Nexus for the most part is bloat free. So I haven't jumped on the root train yet with this phone to keep Android pay since I use it every so often.
Those that root, how do you keep Android pay working? Or do you not care for it?
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I'm from UK so android pay isn't really big at the moment. So that wasn't really an issue for me. I also rooted to change the dpi so I can fit more on the screen and fully utilise the screen size.
rp1226 said:
Those that root, how do you keep Android pay working? Or do you not care for it?
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Use systemless root. Android pay still works fine.:good:
I'm no rooted as well. First phone with no root.
Will keep it that way.
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root pros: custom roms/kernels, remove bloatware, ad blocking.
root cons: no fingerprint, no android pay. (risk of getting very sensitive information compromised)
IFFFFFFFFFF THAT HOLDS TRUE, [VOTE] whether you will root this phone OR not.
Not rooting so many apps like banking ,tv sports etc don't work on rooted devices
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Android Pay isn't a big deal for me.
I have cards, I use them.
I hope we can find a way to get the fingerprint sensor working.
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Not rooting so many apps like banking ,tv sports etc don't work on rooted devices
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Guess I'm lucky, all mine work. I use Sling, BOA, Fidelity, Directv etc without any issues. No clue if the finger print scanner will work or not but hopefully if it doesn't that will get fixed here.
Android pay is a gimmick. I have a wallet everywhere I go, I see no reason to use my phone besides the "its cool" factor.
Didn't know the finger and android pay wouldn't work if you rooted. Guess i'm NOT rooting until there's a workaround.
Deekayy said:
Didn't know the finger and android pay wouldn't work if you rooted. Guess i'm NOT rooting until there's a workaround.
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There won't be any workarounds. Google is not kidding about your biometric data and card information.
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As a side question, might anyone know who the developer of the fingerprint scanner is? Although I've a nigh nihilistic attitude about my privacy today I remember reference to information as I find in this article regarding Apple's AuthenTec's ties to the government. I presume the data will be taken while I hope it's used for good.
To the subject—if rooting breaks the fingerprint scanner I don't think I'll care. Banking on my phone? Nope.
Seeing as nobody actually HAS either the 6P or the 5x yet, we don't know for SURE what will break with root and what will not. Thing is, once you have root access, the whole system is open to you, so fixes and patches are possible. Also I remember reading somewhere that there was a way to "cloak" root from the rest of the system, so apps that check for root, don't find it.
I believe the finger print scanner works rooted, android pay is different though, although people claim they have it working with root!
In the UK I don't care as android pay won't be here anytime soon I'm sure haha
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ambervals6 said:
root pros: custom roms/kernels, remove bloatware, ad blocking.
root cons: no fingerprint, no android pay.
keeping that in mind, vote whether you will root this phone or not.
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Where did you see the finger print scanner wouldn't work? I'm pretty sure I read an article stating that it would. I'm bummed about Android pay, but I can live without out.
Root pro with xposed and root clock works for banking apps
Why wouldn't fingerprint scanner not work? This might be different but on the rooted Sprint note 5 it worked fine. Never had a problem with Wells Fargo banking on a rooted device. I'm for rooting.
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well if fingerprint feature is not working then i guess i will just be on stock rom till there are fixes. i really need to root for the freedom for my device =P
Paying with my phone has zero allure for me...there are very few situations where I have my phone but not a credit card and the 0.5 seconds the phone saves means nothing to me. In fact I watched I guy have to tap his iPhone on the pay scanner at least 10 times yesterday at a deli in Manhattan before it took.
The fingerprint scanner...might be a convenience but I don't see all the rooting benefits out weighing not punching in a pin code or pattern on the lock screen.
I would be really surprised if fingerprint scanner did not work on a rooted device. Now AOSP, CM ROMS could be a different story, over on the One Plus 2 forum, you could root the device and use fingerprint scanner. They couldn't on AOSP as they did not have the binaries available to make it work.
Factory images + rooted, should still allow fingerprint access.
Does Android Pay work with an unlocked bootloader, no root?
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I moved to a Nexus for easy rooting. I'll be rooted day 1.
I chose not rooting. I started with a Galaxy S variant and android 2.1 many years ago. Back in those days, I rooted and installed custom recovery. It was necessary, because I had to remove carrier and manufacturer bloatware, run special kernel to apply a lag fix, flash leaks onto my device because official updates were not coming, etc. Using these feature made my phone much more usable, and rooting made a lot of sense.
Those days are long gone now, and with a stock ROM on Nexus 5, I have been pretty much satisfied with my phone since Lollipop came out. Sure I rooted my Nexus at first too, but over time I realized that none of the advanced features were all that important to me. Rooting prevented me from getting OTA updates, and the lack of android pay was the last straw. I unrooted my Nexus 5, and will likely not root the Nexus 6P unless there is some show stopper bug or annoyance that rooting will help me with. Otherwise I will be content to use the phone stock.
It's a Nexus thought it was the law to root and have fun
I think we're all flashaholics on here, that's why we get a Nexus and root/tinker etc. In terms of practical usage, the need to root and install custom Roms these days is virtually zero. Also, the things that don't work when rooted like banking apps, some video services and pay services means it's becoming less attractive.
nexus devices were and still are intended to be used for development. Disabling features because of root doesn't sound like something that google would do, but then again since lollipop their security has been a bit more strict. so unless something is put out publicly we'll just have to wait and see.
I for one will be rooting day one when I get my phone.
If it is disabled, hopefully there will be a work around put out pretty quickly, like a root cloak or something.
With the tmobile variant having pulled the fastboot codes (**** move) its obvious we may never see a root method (that is publicly shared anyway. ?)
Current v30 users. Do you miss root? If not, why? I've always had rooted devices but this will be tough to have a stock unchangeable device. (I can't afford to buy the unlocked version at once)
I definitely miss root, but my wife has the OnePlus 3T and messing with her phone scratches that itch for me. If the V30 gets root great, if not oh well.
I don't currently have v30 and really want root back on my daily. I have a few older phones with root that does the tasks I want root for. And the V30+ coming to T-Mobile, with the ability to remove bloat with adb, I may go with it.
I have the v20 on tmobile rooted and unlocked but I feel like my wife is going to get me an upgrade as she keeps asking me about if I like it.
Haven't missed root in years.
To be honest, no.
The only thing I wanted is bootloader unlock and ROM support later on.
That's just so it prolong the life of the device. But when it's still relatively new, no it doesn't matter. Since we can use package Disabler to disable unwanted stock apps anyways.
I have yet to buy a V30 but having root isn't going to stop me from purchasing one. I am used to rooting my devices, having Nexus devices for years. I usually keep the phone close to stock though, just removing bloatware, Google garbage, modifying the HOSTS file to block ads, and backing up my SMS/MMS. Disabling apps doesn't free up space but it does effectively produce the same effect as removing them through root. The V30 is also theme friendly and there are plenty of themes out there to choose from. Most browsers offer fairly decent ad blocking but that won't work for apps that pull ads where editing the HOSTS file usually does the trick. In the end, that will make me more picky about the apps I use and to look for premium ad-free versions. Backing up texts isn't a huge deal breaker for me. I prefer the ability to but it isn't a must-have feature. All of that said... I will miss root but it isn't absolutely necessary, at least for me.
Seems like its getting more difficult to get root on newer phones....I guess next will be phasing out all custom ROM's.... :crying:
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I have yet to buy a V30 but having root isn't going to stop me from purchasing one. I am used to rooting my devices, having Nexus devices for years. I usually keep the phone close to stock though, just removing bloatware, Google garbage, modifying the HOSTS file to block ads, and backing up my SMS/MMS. Disabling apps doesn't free up space but it does effectively produce the same effect as removing them through root. The V30 is also theme friendly and there are plenty of themes out there to choose from. Most browsers offer fairly decent ad blocking but that won't work for apps that pull ads where editing the HOSTS file usually does the trick. In the end, that will make me more picky about the apps I use and to look for premium ad-free versions. Backing up texts isn't a huge deal breaker for me. I prefer the ability to but it isn't a must-have feature. All of that said... I will miss root but it isn't absolutely necessary, at least for me.
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Without root u can remove any app using ADB. But disabling is easier with lg package disabler. Apps and browser ad blocker use something like adguard, dns66, blokada work just has good like adaway root. personally i use blokada since it does not drain any battery unlike adguard.
Battery life and ad blocking was the biggest peeves for root with me. Any snags with this?
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Battery life and ad blocking was the biggest peeves for root with me. Any snags with this?
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Like i said in las post
For adblocking. Use blokada, dns66,
I use blockada and it works just like adaway. Doesnt drain battery.ake everything much faster (apps and browser) since theres no ads.
For battery
Do the disabling package from my guide using lg package disable.
Also what will work very well is NAPTIME. You will need adb and use the commands require for the apps to get permission and work.
I used to love to root my devices but I really don't feel the itch on the V30. Then again the last time I rooted was to put a ROM on my Note 3. Touchwiz and all the bloatware really slowed that device down. Android has come a long way since then I think.
Only things I'd miss are titanium backup and control of the governor/frequencies/ etc.
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Edit: Thanks person above, Blockada saved me from the torture of using Zedge with ads!
eduardmc said:
Like i said in las post
For adblocking. Use blokada, dns66,
I use blockada and it works just like adaway. Doesnt drain battery.ake everything much faster (apps and browser) since theres no ads.
For battery
Do the disabling package from my guide using lg package disable.
Also what will work very well is NAPTIME. You will need adb and use the commands require for the apps to get permission and work.
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Can you post a link to you guide for the package disabler please?
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jeffloan said:
Can you post a link to you guide for the package disabler please?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083
eduardmc said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083
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Thank You
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I think I sold. I'm going to miss root but I really don't need it anymore. I usually buy my apps now so I don't need to crack license verification and I have youtube red. Plus Samsung browser with unicorn seems to work for my ad problem... And blockada does wonders for non browser ad blocking. Also with oreo having substratum built in is another reason for root gone (oreo hopefully coming soon) I'll probably get the v30+ on tmobile
I miss it but quite frankly I am quite happy with this phone. I love using Android Pay (I know, I know Magisk) but even the best ROMs always have a bug or two. We have a 2 year warranty. I suspect if I truly miss it...an Exynos Galaxy will be my next phone. But for now...im quite happy with a Stock V30.
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I miss it but quite frankly I am quite happy with this phone. I love using Android Pay (I know, I know Magisk) but even the best ROMs always have a bug or two. We have a 2 year warranty. I suspect if I truly miss it...an Exynos Galaxy will be my next phone. But for now...im quite happy with a Stock V30.
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If you truly miss it, why would Exynos Samsung Galaxy be your next phone... And not LG open market version which easily has root?
The open market version of LG phones is the equivalent of Samsung flagship Exynos phones, for bootloader unlock and root.
Just buy the LG V30 which CAN be rooted, no need to buy another brand phone.
It's not that LG phones can't be rooted. You just to buy the right ones.
ChazzMatt said:
If you truly miss it, why would Exynos Galaxy be your next phone... And not LG open market version which easily has root?
The open market version of LG phones is the equivalent of Samsung flagship Exynos phones, for bootloader unlock and root.
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Well I was rambling... Hoping to keep the V30 for a while!
only reason I miss root is to have a full black theme for the screen.
So usually the first thing I do with all of my phones, is install a custom ROM ( and root obviously ). The newer the phones get the less reasons I find to void warranty and root it. Can someone give me a few good reasons to root my S9 plus, or tell me the reasons as to why you did it.
Thanks, Andrew.
Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
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I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
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I have noticed that battery life seems to be a hit and miss for people, some get really good, some get really bad.
Mine is mediocre, I feel like it could be better but it's not the worst in the world.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
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Be careful next time mate.
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Be careful next time mate.
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Yeah I tried to the first time, ah well these things happen haha.
rooting is a little more than just battery life, things like titanium backup still needs root, and if one decides to remove 'bloatware' (i.e. apps that one don't use) be it that they are sometimes nuisance with all the auto updates unwanted notifications, root is still needed
I rooted my galaxy s9 plus for various reasons. First to greatly enhance the audio by viper4android, and with dolby atmos also on at the same time it completely redefines the sound coming from it. Another reason for me was to use L speed, i have to say it actually makes a difference in performance and battery but not that much. And the third reason is to use substratum, i just love it.
So after all of this you think I am trying to convince you to root, but I don't actually recommend rooting this device specifically. Why? I really don't see the need of rooting it. It has everything that I wanted, but because of my childish brain I couldn't control myself so I went ahead and root it. After all, don't root it.
Debloating stuff which improves battery and performance, and a lot of other tweaks. As for me I use it with my ps4 controller using an app requiring me to root. Now I have my own retro console
This is my first phone I have used that includes NFC payment. So I have started to really enjoy the Samsung Pay feature. Are there anyways of still using this after rooting the phone?
Also can someone give a list of things to disable with 'Service Disabler'? I think Package Disabler Pro has been removed from the play store so I can't get it anymore
After having had a lot of Phones where I felt the need to root them, I can agree on what some others said before me, and that is that the S9+ is the first Phone I haven't felt the need for rooting it. It has basically everything I want that root could give me before, the only thing I am yet wanting is Viper4Android and TitaniumBackup, but there is Samsung Cloud for backup (it even works for gamesaves), and then the built in Equalizer is really good compared to any other from other OEM's. There are however downsides from rooting it, like not being able to use Samsung Pay for example, or Google Pay, or (if you're a fan of it, I dislike the game but whatever) Pokémon GO. Basically any app that uses SafetyNet will stop working (Magisk isn't 100% safe either and can fail). As Samsung gives me the option to theme my Phone to dark like I used to do with Root, and overclock it for Games using the GameTuner, and other things I did with root, I see no reason to really root my S9+ for now, maybe when it reaches it's EOL but currently it is better not to root it.
for me s9 plus need to be rooted, it depends what you use the root for
rom, kernal, games, backup, full control of your system
my head into stuff like this
for normal user i doubt it they even know what root can do
i rooted all my phones before the s9 plus this one waiting for it to be rooted
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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Ironically, you need to have magisk to get those apps to work. If you have magisk, you can change your device fingerprint using a modue called magisk hide props.
Will This Interfere With My Cell Phone Plan
The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
I've had a lot of phones, all of them was rooted, even my S7, but the S9+ is my first that I haven't felt the need to root or anything else.
It's just a great phone.
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The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
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You will keep your cell phone plan as that's based on the Sim card. And trade in depends on region I think. But factory reset with original recovery and everything should mean you can trade in unless your telecom company doesn't like it
I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and just to have options and more control over the device that I own. I have stopped looking for anything or trying to stay on top of this device for at least a year, so I dont know what else there is to do with it. Ad blocking these days seems to block everything useful and I would have to whitelist so many things for it and no simple solution like the way it used to be. Now they make rooting impossible and want to charge over a grand for a new smartphone! ugh,end of rant.
Basically my Note 8 is no longer the swiss army knife that previous rooted smartphones have been for me, and I am not using anything currently that need root that i can think of. I dont know if i will ever need root. I have waited this out thinking in the future that I may need to be rooted but I just dont know anymore. Is there any point of keeping this Note 8 rooted anymore? No TWRP, no xposed,no cfw,seems like a waste to me.
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I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and.........
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
outlawbiker said:
I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I am on the same boat. I was waiting for future development, but the lack of it, the 80% battery and so many other things just frustrated the hell out of me. I basically want 3minit battery and Titanium backup in my devices so that when it comes time to twitch devices, I don't have to spend a day or two setting it up app by app. Other than that you are right. Not too many other apps are needed. I switched to a Pixel 3Xl to get unlocked bootloader and root. Now I'm happy with it. Stock Android seems a bit raw and unfinished at first but it does grow on you with time.
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I absolutely feel the pain of the OP. I have a S8+ on SamFail bootloader v1. I recently had the option to buy a Note 8 (bootloader v5) and couldn't decide if I wanted to switch from the semi-root of samfail'd S8+ to a stock Note 8...? Like the OP my main use is AdAway and one or two other apps that require root... I'm not sure what options are available for ad-blocking on non-rooted devices and how well they work? but that's a big one for me.
Sadly for USA variant (bootloader locked) devices the rooting/rom'ing party is over. And unless you want to stay a generation behind buying a international Exynos F model is expensive... (last years models are still expensive but usually about half of whatever the current series is)
I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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Thanks. Didn't know about AdHell. I quickly learned of SABS too. I'll be looking into both very soon.
I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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What does ad blocking apps do? I've had some but when I watch bootleg movies online(lol) I still see ads?
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BTW im a huge Samsung phone fan since epic tough 4g but I have up after note 8....it's just to mind boggling to root Sammy phones if your on T-Mobile like me who don't want to pay for the phone upfront ends up getting the locked boots....anyway I'm on OnePlus 6t converted to international...unlocked my boots flashed twrp flashed magisk flashed a custom kernel and that's it headache free viper4android for louder sound and subs to make the phone look the way I want it to.....
I have to admit I still play around with my note 8 especially after the pie update looks good
outlawbiker said:
I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I've been thinking for about 2 years now, since the G925V, it is the way in which we root the device that is the problem. Technically speaking, our actual method of perma-rooting a device is about the same as it was 10 years ago. And since CF stopped working on Samsung Devices, it seems no one else will really. I really think that's the problem, no one ever filled the void left by CF quitting Samsung public dev work.
Is Chainfire's way the only way? Or the only way that's really been developed?
Hello everyone it's been years since I've messed around with rooting and what not. Since the HTC One days... Anyways I have a Google Pixel 6 and I'm thinking about rooting it. I just remember being able to do so many more customizations when rooted. Custom roms with better battery life, just cool stuff ya know lol. Any advice is truly appreciated.
80'sBaby said:
Hello everyone it's been years since I've messed around with rooting and what not. Since the HTC One days... Anyways I have a Google Pixel 6 and I'm thinking about rooting it. I just remember being able to do so many more customizations when rooted. Custom roms with better battery life, just cool stuff ya know lol. Any advice is truly appreciated.
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Might want to check out this already-started thread in the Pixel 6 Pro forum...
Rooting... Worth it? Or hassle?
Last device I ever rooted was the op6, I loved rooting the phones to have overall controll, But is it worth it these days? And If I wore to root I know there's a module you can install to keep gpay and things but what about otas and things, and...
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Personally unless you have a very particular use case there really isn't a reason in my opinion. I have to record all my calls with the ex so I had to root but that's all I use it for.
For me it's the little things that make it worth it. Battery charge limiting, passive adblocking, forcing google photos to only backup when charging. Yeah, seems small but it means a lot to me when I miss those.
I kept asking this same question the last two weeks. I ended up not rooting my Pixel 6. Here is a good yt video making the case to rooting.
worth it for me vanced youtube and system tweaks...
I would argue the case that a lot of stuff that used to require root, no longer requires you to be rooted (adblocking, vanced, "pm disable", app backups) & if you're not the kind of person who wants to update manually, install Magisk modules, Xposed modules, custom kernels/ROMs or even use ADB commands that require SU, then you may be better off staying unrooted.
Having said that though, Google does seem to be locking Android down a lot more recently, for example: fixing a exploit that allowed you to mod the UI without root (Repainter/FabricateOverlay) & although I am all for a more secure OS, I also can't live without some mods/apps that do require root (Viper4Android, Pixel Mods, Custom Kernels & SU ADB commands), so root is essential to me.
It's relatively easy to update your device every month when rooted nowdays too - you can take OTA's regularly, as long as you restore the factory boot image via MagiskManager (uninstall Magisk), and then install Magisk to the inactive slot so that you're still rooted upon reboot (or updating manually via fastboot is usually just as fast).
Is it worth it? At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference - it really depends on what you want to do with your phone & how much control you want to have over your device, versus how much time and effort you want to dump into learning and rooting; only you can decide if it's worth it, to you.
DanielF50 said:
I would argue the case that a lot of stuff that used to require root, no longer requires you to be rooted (adblocking, vanced, "pm disable", app backups) & if you're not the kind of person who wants to update manually, install Magisk modules, Xposed modules, custom kernels/ROMs or even use ADB commands that require SU, then you may be better off staying unrooted.
Having said that though, Google does seem to be locking Android down a lot more recently, for example: fixing a exploit that allowed you to mod the UI without root (Repainter/FabricateOverlay) & although I am all for a more secure OS, I also can't live without some mods/apps that do require root (Viper4Android, Pixel Mods, Custom Kernels & SU ADB commands), so root is essential to me.
It's relatively easy to update your device every month when rooted nowdays too - you can take OTA's regularly, as long as you restore the factory boot image via MagiskManager (uninstall Magisk), and then install Magisk to the inactive slot so that you're still rooted upon reboot (or updating manually via fastboot is usually just as fast).
Is it worth it? At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference - it really depends on what you want to do with your phone & how much control you want to have over your device, versus how much time and effort you want to dump into learning and rooting; only you can decide if it's worth it, to you.
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OK so I don't see the word security anywhere there. Are there not any security implications these days? (I'm no expert just a casual visitor here)
Flashing the Kirisakura kernel seemed to improve my standby battery drain a lot. I think it's worth it for that alone. Plus it may be getting less necessary to root but it's also getting easier so I think it balances out. Unlocking and rooting my 6 pro was easier than I remember previous phones being. Magisk is far superior to SuperSu in my fairly limited experience.
axelmasok said:
OK so I don't see the word security anywhere there. Are there not any security implications these days? (I'm no expert just a casual visitor here)
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I wouldn't say there's much security risk - in terms of apps accessing SuperUser, you choose which apps can access SU commands & you can also set this to be biometric so that only your fingerprint can authorise SU use.
If someone has your device in person, it may be a little bit more of a security risk as they can easily wipe the device but shouldn't be able to actually unlock your device or access your data (encrypted), even after resetting it, due to Google implementing "Factory Reset Protection" way back in 2014 or 2015? I am unsure if this is the case if you reset the device via a "fastboot -w" wipe, but can only assume that it is.
Obviously, if you give a rogue app SU access it could definitely be a security risk, but if you're pretty "tech savvy" and don't go giving SU to any old apk, I would say you're pretty safe.
Gibsonflyingv said:
For me it's the little things that make it worth it. Battery charge limiting, passive adblocking, forcing google photos to only backup when charging. Yeah, seems small but it means a lot to me when I miss those.
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what are you using to limit battery charging on your pixel 6? and what settings?
i use acca usually but im having issues on the the p6.
as for root, it gives me all the features i need.
Have my P6 since the beginning and haven't rooted yet. Most of the stuff I used root for can now be achieved without it (ADB/Shizuku f.e.). Still considering to root again for the little things and just because I always enjoy tinkering. Just wish Nova would support Quickswitch, then I'd root instantly.
I used to have a Rooted Note4,
unfortunately I left it on the truck dashboard one day, and the sun bricked it solid, won't even boot now
since then, the only real reason I want to root is to Record Callers, because I have severe Tinnitus, and don't always understand what I hear.
sometimes, when a doctor calls, this is extremely important...
I found an app that works if you know the call is coming, and can Unlock the Permissions for it.
but, once the screen locks, it is inop again.
However, if you make an Outgoing Call, it works every time... Curious.
Google has gone too far with blocking our ability to record calls....
I now have a Galaxy S10+ and would love to root it, but can't afford the risk of bricking it....
as I am not familiar with rooting at all ( I bought the Note4 already rooted )
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I did manage root and rom on an S8, I think the S10+ would be easier again. There's a bit of mucking around. Doubt you would brick it. Usually when instructions go wrong and you start mucking around the bricking becomes reality.
Energized... Sound mods... Alpha backup... Call recording... The magisk mod for system UI tweaks... Acc battery charger... It's a lot of great reasons to root in 2022
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Energized... Sound mods... Acc battery charger...
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@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
drmikecrowe said:
@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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Energized Protection (Hosts file / Adblocker)
Viper4Android FX (Audio Mod)
JamesDSP (Audio Mod)
Ainur Narsil (Depreciated Audio Mod)
Advanced Charging Controller (ACC)
drmikecrowe said:
@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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[MOD][MAGISK][ANDROID 12] Addon Features for Pixel Devices - Pixel 6 Thread
What is this? This is a Magisk module that adds the following cool custom features to any Pixel device (from 3a to 6 Pro) running stock Android 12 Pixel ROM: Enable/Disable Google Sans font system wide Adds Icon Styles and Icon Shapes...
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This is the game changer... You damn near don't need custom roms anymore... And can't forget about the kernels that helps out with battery usage and all kinds of tweaks
Velcorn said:
Have my P6 since the beginning and haven't rooted yet. Most of the stuff I used root for can now be achieved without it (ADB/Shizuku f.e.). Still considering to root again for the little things and just because I always enjoy tinkering. Just wish Nova would support Quickswitch, then I'd root instantly.
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Caved and rooted 2 days ago. Went from 12L beta back to stock because Quickswitch and Bluspark Kernel resulted in a bootloop on the beta
Now running Quickswitch, Bluspark and the add-on mod and I really love it. It's the small things for me. The only reason I was reluctant to root was having to wipe my device. Should've just rooted on day 1
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Caved and rooted 2 days ago. Went from 12L beta back to stock because Quickswitch and Bluspark Kernel resulted in a bootloop on the beta
Now running Quickswitch, Bluspark and the add-on mod and I really love it. It's the small things for me. The only reason I was reluctant to root was having to wipe my device. Should've just rooted on day 1
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Almost identical situation over here, but I just updated to the QPR.
I use the heck out of GPay but would love call recording ability. V4A would be a plus too.
It's still impossible to 100% "hide root" from apps right? I know there are mitigation techniques but I assume its still possible for apps to poke around