Probably a dumb question, but we are getting 720/1080p HD playback on the Netflix app... Right? I only ask cause I went looking for information and all I found was this:
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
I also notice the 5x and the 6p aren't on there, so it's probably that it's an ancient article and all newer phones and tablets are getting it, but sometimes I wonder. (I know it's show dependent).
Also if it is HD, are we getting 720 or 1080?
I would be very surprised if we were not getting 1080p, assuming you have Netflix plan that offers HD streams. Even my ancient Nexus 7 was capable of 720p.
I just learned that Netflix now has three tiers offering SD, HD, and Ultra HD. Apparently my plan is locked at $7.99 for HD, but it looks like I will need to upgrade by next year. Ah well, happy to pay it.
Actually, the Nexus 9 is limited to standard definition, which is quite surprising, given that dmantilal is right about the Nexus 7 (2013) supporting HD streaming.
It comes down to DRM. Google/HTC either never put it through Netflix's certification program, or it couldn't pass testing.
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Actually, the Nexus 9 is limited to standard definition, which is quite surprising, given that dmantilal is right about the Nexus 7 (2013) supporting HD streaming.
It comes down to DRM. Google/HTC either never put it through Netflix's certification program, or it couldn't pass testing.
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Eh, that website *SPECIFICALLY* says that N9 gets HD. It is the 5th item from the top of the list, right below N7/13.
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Eh, that website *SPECIFICALLY* says that N9 gets HD. It is the 5th item from the top of the list, right below N7/13.
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Are you looking at this page. That page didn't seem to have the Nexus 9 listed last time I looked at it- I wonder how new it is.
That's interesting, though. It's been a few days since I tried. My Nexus 9 is running 6.0, but I haven't applied the January patch, nor have I installed the new Netflix update that just came out a day or two ago.
I'll try the test again when I get home. You can try it, too. Search for "Test Patterns" in netflix and start playing any video there. The video will report what resolution it is playing at. It will always start low, but in my case it never got up to HD resolution.
I'm definitely still limited to 720x480 resolution on my Nexus 9, despite running current firmware and the most recent version of the Netflix app.
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I'm definitely still limited to 720x480 resolution on my Nexus 9, despite running current firmware and the most recent version of the Netflix app.
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Same here running CyanogenMod 13. The Netflix app maxes out at 1750kbit 720×480 when running the official NetFlix "test patterns" videos. I tried the hacked app with no luck. Is there some way to mod the build.prop to fake our device and get HD? (I tried & failed.)
Although I would prefer 1080p, I must say that with my above-average up-close vision that 720x480 @ 1750Kbit is more than adequate. Though, I am not someone who has ever watched a movie and said "if only there were more pixels!". I would rather watch The Matrix at VCD quality than Real World Road Rules in 4K.
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Same here running CyanogenMod 13. The Netflix app maxes out at 1750kbit 720×480 when running the official NetFlix "test patterns" videos. I tried the hacked app with no luck. Is there some way to mod the build.prop to fake our device and get HD? (I tried & failed.)
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I doubt it. I strongly suspect the SD limitation is enforced by DRM. Netflix is fairly tight-lipped about their DRM requirements, but my understanding is that to get HD video, a device needs to implement some type of hardware-supported DRM system. On Android devices, I believe that's usually DRM supported by ARM TrustZone.
If that's the case, a hacked app wouldn't be enough. You'd need to hack the code that runs in TrustZone, which is set up very early in the boot process.
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Although I would prefer 1080p, I must say that with my above-average up-close vision that 720x480 @ 1750Kbit is more than adequate. Though, I am not someone who has ever watched a movie and said "if only there were more pixels!". I would rather watch The Matrix at VCD quality than Real World Road Rules in 4K.
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For casual viewing, you're right, it isn't that bad. But I think you'd definitely notice the jump from 480p to 1080p.
@letsief
You have seen the hacked Netflix HD app? It seems version 3 introduced DRM but earlier versions were capable of being hacked.
Considering that almost every Android device being capable of 720p or better, the need for Netflix certification makes no sense to me.
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Interesting. I didn't know about that. I saw your earlier reference to a hacked Netflix app, but I didn't know what you were specifically referring to.
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@letsief
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I assume certification is intended to check for security issues, rather than performance.
Good news! As of today, Netflix is streaming in 1080p on my Nexus 9.
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Good news! As of today, Netflix is streaming in 1080p on my Nexus 9.
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Mine too. Bitrate = 5800kbps; Res = 1920x1080
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Mine too. Bitrate = 5800kbps; Res = 1920x1080
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How do you check?
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How do you check?
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With this: http://www.netflix.com/watch/70206978 or this: http://www.netflix.com/watch/80018585 or just search for "test" in Netflix app, there are 4 seasons of it.
I just ran the test pattern and ran at 1920x1080 at 3000kbps on my Nexus 9.
I had to clear my data and cache after upgrading to 6.0 for it to get past 1750 kbps. Now works at 5000 kbps just fine.
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Wondering if the Snapdragon SoC can do a better job than the Tegra2. Has anybody tested some high profile 1080p?
Thanks.
On sensation all my HD 1080p videos played with no problem
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On sensation all my HD 1080p videos played with no problem
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Even 1080p [email protected]? If that's the case, my coming Touchpad will get a lot more usage than I expected
Thanks.
1080p flash works well on the sensation but not on the pad
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Wondering if the Snapdragon SoC can do a better job than the Tegra2. Has anybody tested some high profile 1080p?
Thanks.
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i think it`s just software limitation.
also the cpu @ 1.2ghz is underclocked. it can run up to 1.5ghz without any problem.
Cellphones, Tablet PCs,
Qualcomm gets official with TouchPad-powering Snapdragon APQ8060 processor
By Donald Melanson posted Feb 10th 2011 1:31PM
HP already put out the first official word about Qualcomm's new Snapdragon APQ8060 processor yesterday when it revealed that its TouchPad was based on it, but Qualcomm's now also come out and properly announced the new processor itself. That's, of course, a dual-core processor, and comes paired with an Adreno 220 GPU that Qualcomm says helps to deliver "unprecedented processing and 3D graphics performance." What's more, while the TouchPad is the first device to use the processor, it obviously won't be the last, and Qualcomm has now also given us an idea of what sort of capabilities those devices (including smartphones in addition to tablets) might have -- namely, cameras up to 16 megapixels, and the ability to capture and display 1080p stereoscopic 3D video or 8 megapixel stereoscopic still images. Head on past the break for the complete press release.
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Why do people go nuts over thing like this? i really dont get it.. unless its just so they dont have to re-encode anything... but what the point of running a 1080p video on a screen that is only 1024x768? when you do this you are making the processor work harder scaling it down.. there for using more battery..
if its just for easy of use.. thats one thing.. just copy and go.. or if the touchpad had a video out port (that would be SWEEETT!!)
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Why do people go nuts over thing like this? i really dont get it.. unless its just so they dont have to re-encode anything... but what the point of running a 1080p video on a screen that is only 1024x768? when you do this you are making the processor work harder scaling it down.. there for using more battery..
if its just for easy of use.. thats one thing.. just copy and go.. or if the touchpad had a video out port (that would be SWEEETT!!)
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Calm down. Why do people think it's their job to tell others what to want? First of all, nobody's going nuts here. Secondly, you're right. I don't want to reencode my tv shows just to watch then delete. Third and last, i don't care about battery when im on my bed and want to something.
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Calm down. Why do people think it's their job to tell others what to want? First of all, nobody's going nuts here. Secondly, you're right. I don't want to reencode my tv shows just to watch then delete. Third and last, i don't care about battery when im on my bed and want to something.
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sorry i didnt mean to imply that anyone here was going nuts over it.. but there was quite a... debate.. over the issue on the nook forums about it.. people calling it a POS because it couldnt do 1080p ect.. people were even complaining that even tho they were already having to re-encode there videos to get them to play on the nook.. they were having to re-encode them to 800x480 instead of the more 'common' format of 1280x720
I understand. There was a big ordeal with the Tegra 2 and high-profile h264, but it is an issue that needs to be addressed. Anyhow, it LOOKS like this 3rd-gen Snapdragon chip is a better decoder. Will try it myself when I get my Touchpad. Wonder if there's a HW-decoding player for webOS though.
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I understand. There was a big ordeal with the Tegra 2 and high-profile h264, but it is an issue that needs to be addressed. Anyhow, it LOOKS like this 3rd-gen Snapdragon chip is a better decoder. Will try it myself when I get my Touchpad. Wonder if there's a HW-decoding player for webOS though.
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try this player KalemSoft Media Player
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try this player KalemSoft Media Player
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Does not look like this software is hardware decoding because even 720p h264 mkv are lagging.
No it isn't. It transcodes the files. Somebody needs to write a player that will do hardware decoding. This soc is technically as good as the ipad2. I would be more than happy to pay for such app.
I know this isn't exactly what is being asked, but just to add I played some HD videos from Vimeo yesterday and they worked really well.
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I know this isn't exactly what is being asked, but just to add I played some HD videos from Vimeo yesterday and they worked really well.
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Vimeo is more HQ than HD imo
From using touch player on the device (which is built off of ffmpeg), I can tell you that even 720p will lag a little (but still playable). I highly doubt 1080 will be. Besides, how much do you think you are going to fit onto it with nothing but 1080p shows? 2 seasons of the simpsons @ 720p took up nearly 16gb.
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From using touch player on the device (which is built off of ffmpeg), I can tell you that even 720p will lag a little (but still playable). I highly doubt 1080 will be.
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Touchplayer is a software-decoding player. We need hardware!
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Touchplayer is a software-decoding player. We need hardware!
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Start developing it
There doesn't exist anything else for touchpad as far as I know.
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That would take too long. First I have to learn how to code lol. I wish somebody would take advantage of the fire sale and make such software. There's gotta be like 1/4 a million Touchpads out there right?
I'd consider it, but I don't think there's much of a market for selling it on the touchpad. Besides the fact android will be on it soon.
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I'd consider it, but I don't think there's much of a market for selling it on the touchpad. Besides the fact android will be on it soon.
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Perhaps, but I wonder if Android performance will take a hit as a port.
I bought a Sony XTZ couple weeks ago. I love everything about this tablet, until I watched a movie on Netflix on it. It is borderline blurry compared to streaming the same title on Windows 8 or iPad. So I thought it's just a Netflix thing, until last night I played a movie from Google Play. It looked absolutely horrible, SD quality. It is not my internet connection speed as I get 100/30Mbps here.
I Googled this subject and found no information about this. Am I seeing things or is there something wrong with my Sony XTZ?
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I bought a Sony XTZ couple weeks ago. I love everything about this tablet, until I watched a movie on Netflix on it. It is borderline blurry compared to streaming the same title on Windows 8 or iPad. So I thought it's just a Netflix thing, until last night I played a movie from Google Play. It looked absolutely horrible, SD quality. It is not my internet connection speed as I get 100/30Mbps here.
I Googled this subject and found no information about this. Am I seeing things or is there something wrong with my Sony XTZ?
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So I did some more reading, apparently Sony didn't pay for licensing for HD playback on the XTZ :silly: I've read that even Sony's own video services do not offer HD playback on the XTZ. Wow, just wow. I really love this tablet but this is a deal breaker.
I have 4 more days to request a return on this. I was trying to get it to update to the latest 10.4.1.b.0.101 but it's not available yet. I will give it 3 more days to see if the update hits, and see if it enables HD playback. If not I have to return it which will be unfortunate and very disappointing.
Please tell me this is not true ..
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So I did some more reading, apparently Sony didn't pay for licensing for HD playback on the XTZ :silly: I've read that even Sony's own video services do not offer HD playback on the XTZ. Wow, just wow. I really love this tablet but this is a deal breaker.
I have 4 more days to request a return on this. I was trying to get it to update to the latest 10.4.1.b.0.101 but it's not available yet. I will give it 3 more days to see if the update hits, and see if it enables HD playback. If not I have to return it which will be unfortunate and very disappointing.
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Please tell me this is not true DAMMN im about to buy this tablet ..( not waiting for the z2 because the tablet is on 350$ deal so yeah..)
i love watching netflix and i when i see this .. well no, just no i have like 24 hours before the deals end .. someone tell me that i can watch hd content on it .. is it netflix only or all hd playback?
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Please tell me this is not true DAMMN im about to buy this tablet ..( not waiting for the z2 because the tablet is on 350$ deal so yeah..)
i love watching netflix and i when i see this .. well no, just no i have like 24 hours before the deals end .. someone tell me that i can watch hd content on it .. is it netflix only or all hd playback?
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Yes, all streaming HD services. Very disappointing as I loved everything about this tablet. I really wanted it to work, so much so that I called Xperia support even knowing it'd be a waste of time. First thing I was asked was if I can copy the movies to my XTZ to be played.
This appears to affect the entire range of Xperia devices including the flagship Z1 Ultra. I'll link two samples I found here, but I saw the same complaints on other Xperia devices. I've found no complaints about Netflix, but trust me, if you watch the same title on Netflix with any other devices, the quality difference will be clear - it's way sharper even on a 720p device than on the XTZ.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/VOD-and-HD-Video-Playback/td-p/362656
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...vice-does-not-support-HD-playback/td-p/417467
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Yes, all streaming HD services. Very disappointing as I loved everything about this tablet. I really wanted it to work, so much so that I called Xperia support even knowing it'd be a waste of time. First thing I was asked was if I can copy the movies to my XTZ to be played.
This appears to affect the entire range of Xperia devices including the flagship Z1 Ultra. I'll link two samples I found here, but I saw the same complaints on other Xperia devices. I've found no complaints about Netflix, but trust me, if you watch the same title on Netflix with any other devices, the quality difference will be clear - it's way sharper even on a 720p device than on the XTZ.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/VOD-and-HD-Video-Playback/td-p/362656
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...vice-does-not-support-HD-playback/td-p/417467
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Well sucks a lot I think I'll wait for the z2 or the next nexus 10
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Well sucks a lot I think I'll wait for the z2 or the next nexus 10
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I don't know if the XTZ 2 will not have that issue - this seems to be an issue with every Xperia devices even the Z1 Ultra which came out not that long ago..
So I returned the XTZ and bought an LG G Pad 8.3, and find that the LG also has poor Netflix streaming quality, but at least the LG can play HD contents from Google Play which the XTZ would only play SD quality.
Did some more reading on this matter. 1080p Netflix on Android requires Android 4.3 (which the XTZ does in fact have) that has additional DRM API built-in, but it seems the ONLY Android device that can do 1080p streaming is the Nexus 7 2013. One might say on a smallish tablet device 720p vs 1080p shouldn't matter. I probably would've thought so myself if I hadn't been spoiled by the biting sharpness from iPads and Windows 8 devices when watching Netflix. The difference is immediately noticeable.
I've attached some pictures to show the difference in case anyone is interested to see. The difference in person is greater than these pictures show.
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Did some more reading on this matter. 1080p Netflix on Android requires Android 4.3 (which the XTZ does in fact have) that has additional DRM API built-in, but it seems the ONLY Android device that can do 1080p streaming is the Nexus 7 2013. One might say on a smallish tablet device 720p vs 1080p shouldn't matter. I probably would've thought so myself if I hadn't been spoiled by the biting sharpness from iPads and Windows 8 devices when watching Netflix. The difference is immediately noticeable.
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I'm pretty sure all non-Nexus 7 2013 devices only get 480p, hence the low quality. Netflix help pages also say HD is only supported on "new Nexus 7".
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I'm pretty sure all non-Nexus 7 2013 devices only get 480p, hence the low quality. Netflix help pages also say HD is only supported on "new Nexus 7".
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What is the reasoning for this? That's ridiculous.
I kid you not, the regular iPad Mini with the 1024x768 screen and the Dell Windows 8.1 8" 1280x800 tablets look much sharper than the non-Nexus 7 full HD Android tablets I've tried so far. Yes I had a 2013 Nexus 7 previously and Netflix is very sharp on it. This inconsistent experience from Android is a big turn off, although I like the LG G Pad a lot and it is a keeper. I'll just use my other gadgets when I watch Netflix.
I don't think there would be much differences in your images above.
Since each tablet you used has different brightness and contrast, so the picture sharpness looks different.
I have attached my photos showing pictures from XTZ and iPad Air. The two are a little out of sync.
Look at detail of Liam's shirt. They are the same on both XTZ and Air.
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What is the reasoning for this? That's ridiculous.
I kid you not, the regular iPad Mini with the 1024x768 screen and the Dell Windows 8.1 8" 1280x800 tablets look much sharper than the non-Nexus 7 full HD Android tablets I've tried so far. Yes I had a 2013 Nexus 7 previously and Netflix is very sharp on it. This inconsistent experience from Android is a big turn off, although I like the LG G Pad a lot and it is a keeper. I'll just use my other gadgets when I watch Netflix.
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I believe it is because of DRM mess, i.e. the Widevine DRM interfaces are not implemented properly or something about it is different, etc.
I modified the Netflix APK to enable verbose logging and I looked through the code, and it seems to check specifically for Nexus 7 2013 on Android 4.3 only to enable Widevine DRM mode, otherwise the Widevine mode is disabled (which, I guess, disables HD playback completely). On Android 4.4 there is no separate check for device name, so maybe HD playback could work with Netflix for any 4.4 tablet that implements the Android Widevine DRM interface properly (or it could be it is limited in other places as well)...
And yes, the playback doesn't go above 480p according to the logs on my Tablet Z.
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I don't think there would be much differences in your images above.
Since each tablet you used has different brightness and contrast, so the picture sharpness looks different.
I have attached my photos showing pictures from XTZ and iPad Air. The two are a little out of sync.
Look at detail of Liam's shirt. They are the same on both XTZ and Air.
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You can't see any quality difference in the pictures because the photo resolution is way too low for that. 480p video has 480 pixels in the vertical direction, and your photos doesn't even have that amount of vertical pixels for each display.
To definitely see what resolution your Netflix is maxing out at, search for "example short" in Netflix and play the "Example Short 23.976" video (in U.S. Netflix). The video shows the current playback bitrate and size in the upper-left corner. For me it maxes out at "1750 kbps, 720x480", which is consistent with what I saw in the APK, and which is not HD.
Sorry to bump this old thread, but it seems Netflix has finally let it loose on full HD streaming to other Android devices, at least on both my LG (G Pad 8.3 and G2 phone). I think since two Netflix app updates ago. The difference is immediately noticeable - same biting sharpness I've been used to from iPads and Windows 8.1. I imagine this would be across the board on all Android devices.
I remembered this thread when I searched "LG G Pad Netflix stuttering", which very surprisingly was rectified by rebooting the G Pad.
Edit, seems Netflix has "fixed" it again with the new update. The super sharpness is once again gone. In trying to fix the stuttering issue, I updated the Netflix app to the current release. I'm not seeing things. I've gone nuts since the XTZ in trying to see what's going on with Netflix on Android. I settled on a scene on Skyfall. At 12:21 the conference call speaker (plus M's wrinkles on her face), you'll see the very fine details when on HD, which I saw on the G Pad on the last Netflix app update. It's gone now.
I give up.
Edit 2: I think Netflix is messing around with things on their backend. A couple days ago I started noticing titles actually say "HD" when browsing on the Android app. Now it's gone. I went as far as downloading the .apk for 3.3.3 and 3.4.0, nope HD is gone.
Now I give up.
very poor product, equally poor customer service
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I believe it is because of DRM mess, i.e. the Widevine DRM interfaces are not implemented properly or something about it is different, etc.
I modified the Netflix APK to enable verbose logging and I looked through the code, and it seems to check specifically for Nexus 7 2013 on Android 4.3 only to enable Widevine DRM mode, otherwise the Widevine mode is disabled (which, I guess, disables HD playback completely). On Android 4.4 there is no separate check for device name, so maybe HD playback could work with Netflix for any 4.4 tablet that implements the Android Widevine DRM interface properly (or it could be it is limited in other places as well)...
And yes, the playback doesn't go above 480p according to the logs on my Tablet Z.
You can't see any quality difference in the pictures because the photo resolution is way too low for that. 480p video has 480 pixels in the vertical direction, and your photos doesn't even have that amount of vertical pixels for each display.
To definitely see what resolution your Netflix is maxing out at, search for "example short" in Netflix and play the "Example Short 23.976" video (in U.S. Netflix). The video shows the current playback bitrate and size in the upper-left corner. For me it maxes out at "1750 kbps, 720x480", which is consistent with what I saw in the APK, and which is not HD.
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I bought this tablet thinking it would be amazing, dust proof, water resistant, slim slick design, SD card etc. It is very poor for the price I paid here in UK £380, live streaming rarely works, it goes off after about 30 seconds. Battery life poor, takes forever charging. Uploading videos is shocking, producing such poor quality videos even from the HD GoPro cameras, it's all blurry. I wish now I had stuck with my original plan of staying with Apple. Waste of money, customer service on Twitter absolutely useless, saying for me to do the same thing "system repair" black black black, why should we have to do this after paying nearly £400 for a tablet. I did do the system repair process and it made absolutely no difference whatsoever. Avoid Sony Xperia at all costs.
Back to Apple for me after my refund. Boom
Pretty confused. I cannot select 4k, or at first anything above 720p until I installed the re installed Youtube\cleared it. Now I have the option of 1080p, but I am still missing the option of 4k as I have the Note 4, is this just a Youtube mobile app problem or what? Thanks in advance, loving the display but confused as the Youtube app just seems funky and won't allow anything above 1080p, so I have no way of really showing off the phones 4k feature in terms of video quality. Thanks in advance
Well the video has to have been uploaded at 4k quality... Try Rhett and Links "Vacation Song". I know that was uploaded in 4k.
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Pretty confused. I cannot select 4k, or at first anything above 720p until I installed the re installed Youtube\cleared it. Now I have the option of 1080p, but I am still missing the option of 4k as I have the Note 4, is this just a Youtube mobile app problem or what? Thanks in advance, loving the display but confused as the Youtube app just seems funky and won't allow anything above 1080p, so I have no way of really showing off the phones 4k feature in terms of video quality. Thanks in advance
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I would like to know also.... I'm only getting 720p
You sure that the content has 4k option on your PC ?
There's no option in the YouTube app for 4k. You yourself a can shoot 4K video or view content that has been uploaded in 4K.
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Well the video has to have been uploaded at 4k quality... Try Rhett and Links "Vacation Song". I know that was uploaded in 4k.
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Oh I've tried a boat-load of 4k ones. On my PC there is an option for 4k with them, not on Note 4's Youtube app. I also at first was stuck with just up to 720p, I uninstalled Youtube and re-installed and now get 1080p, but still nothing like 1440p or 4k.
The 1080 option is a very recent addition to the Youtube app. (one of the last two updates.)
Which is ridiculous, since 1920x1200 screens on Android have been around since the Asus TF700T introduced them in July 2012. More than two bloody years ago.
2K will probably take them another two years to figure out, 4k at least four.
So no, the option does not exist.
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The 1080 option is a very recent addition to the Youtube app. (one of the last two updates.)
Which is ridiculous, since 1920x1200 screens on Android have been around since the Asus TF700T introduced them in July 2012. More than two bloody years ago.
2K will probably take them another two years to figure out, 4k at least four.
So no, the option does not exist.
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According to what I was reading if you go back two Youtube updates you get 1440P, you just have to uninstall and manually install the old package. It was in there, as was 1080P before, they just took it out for some reason. Stupid considering all the 4k devices on the market now.
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According to what I was reading if you go back two Youtube updates you get 1440P, you just have to uninstall and manually install the old package. It was in there, as was 1080P before, they just took it out for some reason. Stupid considering all the 4k devices on the market now.
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Dident you even consider that it wasnt stable enough and 1080p is back, at least here in Europe.
Still having this problem
Load 4k vids on YT and 1440 is the highest option
Anyone know if and when YT will include 4k as an option?
Also is there a site or resource that posts what youtube is working on/releasing/released/etc. ?
Like when app updates say what comes with the update and what's different. ..something like that for youtube android development
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Still having this problem
Load 4k vids on YT and 1440 is the highest option
Anyone know if and when YT will include 4k as an option?
Also is there a site or resource that posts what youtube is working on/releasing/released/etc. ?
Like when app updates say what comes with the update and what's different. ..something like that for youtube android development
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Why bother when your phone only has a 2k screen?
Check this video
https://youtu.be/QmETPhV4oo0
Hope it helps
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Pretty confused. I cannot select 4k, or at first anything above 720p until I installed the re installed Youtube\cleared it. Now I have the option of 1080p, but I am still missing the option of 4k as I have the Note 4, is this just a Youtube mobile app problem or what? Thanks in advance, loving the display but confused as the Youtube app just seems funky and won't allow anything above 1080p, so I have no way of really showing off the phones 4k feature in terms of video quality. Thanks in advance
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The Mi Pad 4 is missing DRM, so for example Netflix won't work in HD. That's a real bummer for a media device like this one. Is this fixable with Lineage OS or is it a hardware thing, that can't be changed or tricked?
Most probably not, some oneplus devices (like my 3t) are shipped with support for widevine level 3, and not widevine level 1 which is required for HD. Oneplus offered to "upgrade" some oneplus 5 or 5t to widevine level 1 but users had to send their devices to oneplus so that drm keys could be installed.
This is not something that every one can do.
I searched a little longer for an ultimate answer. There are two major things I learned:
1) there are devices from Xiaomi which have L1 widevine. My theory is, that this could be the global versions, but I don't know if there will be a global version of the Mi Pad 4.
2) for some devices it is possible to fake the widevine L1. There are some Lineage OS ROMs which integrated this, but therefore we need a maintainer.
So it doesn't look very good.
I just received my Mi Pad 4. It has MIUI 9.6.8.0 Stable.
Even though I had to install netflix through apkmirror, it worked perfect and the image quality is crisp HD. Same for Amazon Prime. Am I missing something?
ctgchaos said:
I just received my Mi Pad 4. It has MIUI 9.6.8.0 Stable.
Even though I had to install netflix through apkmirror, it worked perfect and the image quality is crisp HD. Same for Amazon Prime. Am I missing something?
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Could you upload screenshot of this app ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidfung.drminfo
As you can see Widevine Level L3 & ClearKey CDM 1.0 are available (at least on my device).
I tested the video quality with Teen Titans Go, because it has nice, sharp lines, and it look good to my eyes.
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As you can see Widevine Level L3 & ClearKey CDM 1.0 are available (at least on my device).
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Level 3 won't provide HD Netflix, only level 1. Even then to get official HD support from Netflix you need to have a device whitelisted by Netflix themselves. There was an app which got round this whitelisting though but level 1 is a necessity.
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Andy4Shurr said:
Level 3 won't provide HD Netflix, only level 1. Even then to get official HD support from Netflix you need to have a device whitelisted by Netflix themselves. There was an app which got round this whitelisting though but level 1 is a necessity.
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Strange, it looks plenty sharp with the build I downloaded (Netflix 6.8.0 build 28945). Also, when I downloaded Teen Titans Go S01E01 it's 177 MB for a 22m episode. I think that's the HD version, no?
ctgchaos said:
Strange, it looks plenty sharp with the build I downloaded (Netflix 6.8.0 build 28945). Also, when I downloaded Teen Titans Go S01E01 it's 177 MB for a 22m episode. I think that's the HD version, no?
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The best way to see if you're getting hd or not is to play the 'test patterns' videos on Netflix and see what resolution it plays up to. In the top right there will be the frame rate and resolution which will increase to your maximum permitted by Netflix. Without Widevine level 1 you won't get HD.
But on the device info page on their website it says that devices with the 670 soc from Qualcomm will have HD: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
There are apps in the play store that show DRM support. If you search for widevine in the play store DRM Info comes up which will tell you what is supported on the device.
ctgchaos can you see what it says on your device?
DRM info shows widevine L3.
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DRM info shows widevine L3.
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Jep and usually you nee L1 Widevine for Netflix and Co. But it seems to work just fine.
Netflix will still work with L3 but you just won't be able to stream higher than 480p. This is also a hardware DRM limitation so unless they do something there, no HD netflix or amazon prime video
For me it looks definitely better than 480p so I doubt that..
Edit: its 480p but it looks better than expected
Netflix said HD should be possible: https://twitter.com/Netflixhelps/status/1030121266982907904
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Jep and usually you nee L1 Widevine for Netflix and Co. But it seems to work just fine.
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michael64142 said:
Netflix said HD should be possible: https://twitter.com/Netflixhelps/status/1030121266982907904
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I think they mean it's possible if the MFG wants to do it. Xiaomi doesn't really care though since they don't have Netflix in China.
I'm thinking about buying the Mi Pad 4. Is this still an issue? Netflix won't play higher than 480p?
Hi guys,
recently i got a oppo reno 5G which is basicly a 10x zoom 5G version. it is currently on color os 6, it's widevine L1, but unable to play prime video at HD, best quality is only at 0.46GB/hr. as reno 10x zoom 4g already updated to color os 7, just wonder if any change been made through the update? 5G version should get color os 7 in June. thanks.
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Hi guys,
recently i got a oppo reno 5G which is basicly a 10x zoom 5G version. it is currently on color os 6, it's widevine L1, but unable to play prime video at HD, best quality is only at 0.46GB/hr. as reno 10x zoom 4g already updated to color os 7, just wonder if any change been made through the update? 5G version should get color os 7 in June. thanks.
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If it it helps I have COS7 on the 10XZ and can play full HD content on Netflix and Disney+
"0.46GB/hr" what does this mean? In terms of quality do you mean you are only getting 480p?
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If it it helps I have COS7 on the 10XZ and can play full HD content on Netflix and Disney+
"0.46GB/hr" what does this mean? In terms of quality do you mean you are only getting 480p?
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thanks for you reply, good to hear that. one more question, can you remember if you can play at 1080P when you were on cos 6?
yes, you are right, in prime video app, when choose streaming quality the "BEST" i get is 0.46GB/hr, meaning 480P. My wife's p30 pro has BEST like 1.8GB/hr.
i was suprised that my old pixel 2xl had same 0.46GB/hr, never notice that before.
also may i ask couple of more question since you are here.
how is your cos 7 experience? i read from chinese web, many users compalint about lag, battery, heating, and other issues. moreover when i read from Gsmarena "Oppo Reno 10x zoom - user opinions and reviews" most of people there had issues with cos7, and most of them suggest stay on cos6.
i am confused.
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thanks for you reply, good to hear that. one more question, can you remember if you can play at 1080P when you were on cos 6?
yes, you are right, in prime video app, when choose streaming quality the "BEST" i get is 0.46GB/hr, meaning 480P. My wife's p30 pro has BEST like 1.8GB/hr.
i was suprised that my old pixel 2xl had same 0.46GB/hr, never notice that before.
also may i ask couple of more question since you are here.
how is your cos 7 experience? i read from chinese web, many users compalint about lag, battery, heating, and other issues. moreover when i read from Gsmarena "Oppo Reno 10x zoom - user opinions and reviews" most of people there had issues with cos7, and most of them suggest stay on cos6.
i am confused.
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My experience with COS7
Faster, more fluid usability. No lags. None with COS6 either, but the UI is now even smoother.
I'm using the global model (CPH1919). The Chinese model is inferior to the global model and as such, users will experience some variation between COS6 and COS7.
Ignore any reviews, etc from China. It's different.
In answer to your issue with HD, I can confirm that I had no issues with receiving HD - 1080 or 4K. I'm wondering if your settings on your app are set to "Auto". This can happen with YouTube and if you manually request 1080 or above, then that will be the normal setting (unless a video is specifically of a lower standard format of course).
I have attached an example from YouTube settings. I have overridden the standard setting, so I get at least 1080 over WiFi and at least 480 over mobile data.
Best suggestion I can offer, I'm afraid. Let me know how you get on.
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Let me know how you get on.
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Thanks for your reminder, I find there is a option to " use hardware acceleration" on my old pixel 2xl phone. Make it HD now. However, the option isn't even there on my Reno 5G at all. Have no idea.
i installed netflix and in the setting, it shows widevine L1 and FULL HD, i guess it's fine with netflix. on youtube i have no problem watch 1080P content. maybe it is just the prime video had something to do with the phone.
I read online, cos 7 brings some sort of GPU acceleration, not sure if that will help solve this issue.
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Thanks for your reminder, I find there is a option to " use hardware acceleration" on my old pixel 2xl phone. Make it HD now. However, the option isn't even there on my Reno 5G at all. Have no idea.
i installed netflix and in the setting, it shows widevine L1 and FULL HD, i guess it's fine with netflix. on youtube i have no problem watch 1080P content. maybe it is just the prime video had something to do with the phone.
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Looks like Prime video is the issue. I have exactly same specs for Netflix
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Looks like Prime video is the issue. I have exactly same specs for Netflix
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if that is the case, i guess there is nothing i can do. Maybe one day after a update, it will be fixed. it is pain to watch 480p on a 6.6 inch screen. by the way, may i ask you battery drain during standby? like 8 hrs standby, yestday i reset my phone with off screen clock off, wifi/bluetooth/location/nfc, gamil/photo auto sync,backup on., no sim. it drained 4% in 9hrs. i think it is ok. do not know what normal drain like.
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if that is the case, i guess there is nothing i can do. Maybe one day after a update, it will be fixed. it is pain to watch 480p on a 6.6 inch screen. by the way, may i ask you battery drain during standby? like 8 hrs standby, yestday i reset my phone with off screen clock off, wifi/bluetooth/location/nfc, gamil/photo auto sync,backup on., no sim. it drained 4% in 9hrs. i think it is ok. do not know what normal drain like.
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4% in 9 hours is spot on. No need to worry. Battery management on this device is outstanding
Does anyone know what the status of HDR playback on Netflix, Amazon and Disney+ is? I assume this is down to the actual apps lacking support for the phone, but I had read that HDR used to work on the 10x Zoom at some point last year.
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Does anyone know what the status of HDR playback on Netflix, Amazon and Disney+ is? I assume this is down to the actual apps lacking support for the phone, but I had read that HDR used to work on the 10x Zoom at some point last year.
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Netflix and Disney+ work perfectly at 1080p for me. I don't have Prime, but I know some people have struggled with it - mainly 5G devices restricted to 480p.
Screenshot shows Netflix data. No HDR but this is not a problem
moozer said:
Netflix and Disney+ work perfectly at 1080p for me. I don't have Prime, but I know some people have struggled with it - mainly 5G devices restricted to 480p.
Screenshot shows Netflix data. No HDR but this is not a problem
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They work well in HD for me as well. It's just that the screen is capable of HDR and whilst sometimes I find HDR can be either not very useful or a bit too much, it would be nice for it to work as the screen is capable. Having said that, I compared my playback in Netflix to that on a Oneplus 7t (which is supported for HDR in Netflix) and there was little/no obvious difference (bar the slightly cool rendition on the Oppo).
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They work well in HD for me as well. It's just that the screen is capable of HDR and whilst sometimes I find HDR can be either not very useful or a bit too much, it would be nice for it to work as the screen is capable. Having said that, I compared my playback in Netflix to that on a Oneplus 7t (which is supported for HDR in Netflix) and there was little/no obvious difference (bar the slightly cool rendition on the Oppo).
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Sorry...my screenshot wouldn't upload (maybe it's a HDR thing lol)