The Mi Pad 4 is missing DRM, so for example Netflix won't work in HD. That's a real bummer for a media device like this one. Is this fixable with Lineage OS or is it a hardware thing, that can't be changed or tricked?
Most probably not, some oneplus devices (like my 3t) are shipped with support for widevine level 3, and not widevine level 1 which is required for HD. Oneplus offered to "upgrade" some oneplus 5 or 5t to widevine level 1 but users had to send their devices to oneplus so that drm keys could be installed.
This is not something that every one can do.
I searched a little longer for an ultimate answer. There are two major things I learned:
1) there are devices from Xiaomi which have L1 widevine. My theory is, that this could be the global versions, but I don't know if there will be a global version of the Mi Pad 4.
2) for some devices it is possible to fake the widevine L1. There are some Lineage OS ROMs which integrated this, but therefore we need a maintainer.
So it doesn't look very good.
I just received my Mi Pad 4. It has MIUI 9.6.8.0 Stable.
Even though I had to install netflix through apkmirror, it worked perfect and the image quality is crisp HD. Same for Amazon Prime. Am I missing something?
ctgchaos said:
I just received my Mi Pad 4. It has MIUI 9.6.8.0 Stable.
Even though I had to install netflix through apkmirror, it worked perfect and the image quality is crisp HD. Same for Amazon Prime. Am I missing something?
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Could you upload screenshot of this app ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidfung.drminfo
As you can see Widevine Level L3 & ClearKey CDM 1.0 are available (at least on my device).
I tested the video quality with Teen Titans Go, because it has nice, sharp lines, and it look good to my eyes.
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As you can see Widevine Level L3 & ClearKey CDM 1.0 are available (at least on my device).
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Level 3 won't provide HD Netflix, only level 1. Even then to get official HD support from Netflix you need to have a device whitelisted by Netflix themselves. There was an app which got round this whitelisting though but level 1 is a necessity.
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Level 3 won't provide HD Netflix, only level 1. Even then to get official HD support from Netflix you need to have a device whitelisted by Netflix themselves. There was an app which got round this whitelisting though but level 1 is a necessity.
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Strange, it looks plenty sharp with the build I downloaded (Netflix 6.8.0 build 28945). Also, when I downloaded Teen Titans Go S01E01 it's 177 MB for a 22m episode. I think that's the HD version, no?
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Strange, it looks plenty sharp with the build I downloaded (Netflix 6.8.0 build 28945). Also, when I downloaded Teen Titans Go S01E01 it's 177 MB for a 22m episode. I think that's the HD version, no?
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The best way to see if you're getting hd or not is to play the 'test patterns' videos on Netflix and see what resolution it plays up to. In the top right there will be the frame rate and resolution which will increase to your maximum permitted by Netflix. Without Widevine level 1 you won't get HD.
But on the device info page on their website it says that devices with the 670 soc from Qualcomm will have HD: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
There are apps in the play store that show DRM support. If you search for widevine in the play store DRM Info comes up which will tell you what is supported on the device.
ctgchaos can you see what it says on your device?
DRM info shows widevine L3.
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DRM info shows widevine L3.
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Jep and usually you nee L1 Widevine for Netflix and Co. But it seems to work just fine.
Netflix will still work with L3 but you just won't be able to stream higher than 480p. This is also a hardware DRM limitation so unless they do something there, no HD netflix or amazon prime video
For me it looks definitely better than 480p so I doubt that..
Edit: its 480p but it looks better than expected
Netflix said HD should be possible: https://twitter.com/Netflixhelps/status/1030121266982907904
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Jep and usually you nee L1 Widevine for Netflix and Co. But it seems to work just fine.
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Netflix said HD should be possible: https://twitter.com/Netflixhelps/status/1030121266982907904
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I think they mean it's possible if the MFG wants to do it. Xiaomi doesn't really care though since they don't have Netflix in China.
I'm thinking about buying the Mi Pad 4. Is this still an issue? Netflix won't play higher than 480p?
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I bought a Sony XTZ couple weeks ago. I love everything about this tablet, until I watched a movie on Netflix on it. It is borderline blurry compared to streaming the same title on Windows 8 or iPad. So I thought it's just a Netflix thing, until last night I played a movie from Google Play. It looked absolutely horrible, SD quality. It is not my internet connection speed as I get 100/30Mbps here.
I Googled this subject and found no information about this. Am I seeing things or is there something wrong with my Sony XTZ?
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I bought a Sony XTZ couple weeks ago. I love everything about this tablet, until I watched a movie on Netflix on it. It is borderline blurry compared to streaming the same title on Windows 8 or iPad. So I thought it's just a Netflix thing, until last night I played a movie from Google Play. It looked absolutely horrible, SD quality. It is not my internet connection speed as I get 100/30Mbps here.
I Googled this subject and found no information about this. Am I seeing things or is there something wrong with my Sony XTZ?
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So I did some more reading, apparently Sony didn't pay for licensing for HD playback on the XTZ :silly: I've read that even Sony's own video services do not offer HD playback on the XTZ. Wow, just wow. I really love this tablet but this is a deal breaker.
I have 4 more days to request a return on this. I was trying to get it to update to the latest 10.4.1.b.0.101 but it's not available yet. I will give it 3 more days to see if the update hits, and see if it enables HD playback. If not I have to return it which will be unfortunate and very disappointing.
Please tell me this is not true ..
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So I did some more reading, apparently Sony didn't pay for licensing for HD playback on the XTZ :silly: I've read that even Sony's own video services do not offer HD playback on the XTZ. Wow, just wow. I really love this tablet but this is a deal breaker.
I have 4 more days to request a return on this. I was trying to get it to update to the latest 10.4.1.b.0.101 but it's not available yet. I will give it 3 more days to see if the update hits, and see if it enables HD playback. If not I have to return it which will be unfortunate and very disappointing.
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Please tell me this is not true DAMMN im about to buy this tablet ..( not waiting for the z2 because the tablet is on 350$ deal so yeah..)
i love watching netflix and i when i see this .. well no, just no i have like 24 hours before the deals end .. someone tell me that i can watch hd content on it .. is it netflix only or all hd playback?
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Please tell me this is not true DAMMN im about to buy this tablet ..( not waiting for the z2 because the tablet is on 350$ deal so yeah..)
i love watching netflix and i when i see this .. well no, just no i have like 24 hours before the deals end .. someone tell me that i can watch hd content on it .. is it netflix only or all hd playback?
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Yes, all streaming HD services. Very disappointing as I loved everything about this tablet. I really wanted it to work, so much so that I called Xperia support even knowing it'd be a waste of time. First thing I was asked was if I can copy the movies to my XTZ to be played.
This appears to affect the entire range of Xperia devices including the flagship Z1 Ultra. I'll link two samples I found here, but I saw the same complaints on other Xperia devices. I've found no complaints about Netflix, but trust me, if you watch the same title on Netflix with any other devices, the quality difference will be clear - it's way sharper even on a 720p device than on the XTZ.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/VOD-and-HD-Video-Playback/td-p/362656
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...vice-does-not-support-HD-playback/td-p/417467
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Yes, all streaming HD services. Very disappointing as I loved everything about this tablet. I really wanted it to work, so much so that I called Xperia support even knowing it'd be a waste of time. First thing I was asked was if I can copy the movies to my XTZ to be played.
This appears to affect the entire range of Xperia devices including the flagship Z1 Ultra. I'll link two samples I found here, but I saw the same complaints on other Xperia devices. I've found no complaints about Netflix, but trust me, if you watch the same title on Netflix with any other devices, the quality difference will be clear - it's way sharper even on a 720p device than on the XTZ.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/VOD-and-HD-Video-Playback/td-p/362656
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...vice-does-not-support-HD-playback/td-p/417467
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Well sucks a lot I think I'll wait for the z2 or the next nexus 10
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Well sucks a lot I think I'll wait for the z2 or the next nexus 10
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I don't know if the XTZ 2 will not have that issue - this seems to be an issue with every Xperia devices even the Z1 Ultra which came out not that long ago..
So I returned the XTZ and bought an LG G Pad 8.3, and find that the LG also has poor Netflix streaming quality, but at least the LG can play HD contents from Google Play which the XTZ would only play SD quality.
Did some more reading on this matter. 1080p Netflix on Android requires Android 4.3 (which the XTZ does in fact have) that has additional DRM API built-in, but it seems the ONLY Android device that can do 1080p streaming is the Nexus 7 2013. One might say on a smallish tablet device 720p vs 1080p shouldn't matter. I probably would've thought so myself if I hadn't been spoiled by the biting sharpness from iPads and Windows 8 devices when watching Netflix. The difference is immediately noticeable.
I've attached some pictures to show the difference in case anyone is interested to see. The difference in person is greater than these pictures show.
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Did some more reading on this matter. 1080p Netflix on Android requires Android 4.3 (which the XTZ does in fact have) that has additional DRM API built-in, but it seems the ONLY Android device that can do 1080p streaming is the Nexus 7 2013. One might say on a smallish tablet device 720p vs 1080p shouldn't matter. I probably would've thought so myself if I hadn't been spoiled by the biting sharpness from iPads and Windows 8 devices when watching Netflix. The difference is immediately noticeable.
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I'm pretty sure all non-Nexus 7 2013 devices only get 480p, hence the low quality. Netflix help pages also say HD is only supported on "new Nexus 7".
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I'm pretty sure all non-Nexus 7 2013 devices only get 480p, hence the low quality. Netflix help pages also say HD is only supported on "new Nexus 7".
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What is the reasoning for this? That's ridiculous.
I kid you not, the regular iPad Mini with the 1024x768 screen and the Dell Windows 8.1 8" 1280x800 tablets look much sharper than the non-Nexus 7 full HD Android tablets I've tried so far. Yes I had a 2013 Nexus 7 previously and Netflix is very sharp on it. This inconsistent experience from Android is a big turn off, although I like the LG G Pad a lot and it is a keeper. I'll just use my other gadgets when I watch Netflix.
I don't think there would be much differences in your images above.
Since each tablet you used has different brightness and contrast, so the picture sharpness looks different.
I have attached my photos showing pictures from XTZ and iPad Air. The two are a little out of sync.
Look at detail of Liam's shirt. They are the same on both XTZ and Air.
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What is the reasoning for this? That's ridiculous.
I kid you not, the regular iPad Mini with the 1024x768 screen and the Dell Windows 8.1 8" 1280x800 tablets look much sharper than the non-Nexus 7 full HD Android tablets I've tried so far. Yes I had a 2013 Nexus 7 previously and Netflix is very sharp on it. This inconsistent experience from Android is a big turn off, although I like the LG G Pad a lot and it is a keeper. I'll just use my other gadgets when I watch Netflix.
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I believe it is because of DRM mess, i.e. the Widevine DRM interfaces are not implemented properly or something about it is different, etc.
I modified the Netflix APK to enable verbose logging and I looked through the code, and it seems to check specifically for Nexus 7 2013 on Android 4.3 only to enable Widevine DRM mode, otherwise the Widevine mode is disabled (which, I guess, disables HD playback completely). On Android 4.4 there is no separate check for device name, so maybe HD playback could work with Netflix for any 4.4 tablet that implements the Android Widevine DRM interface properly (or it could be it is limited in other places as well)...
And yes, the playback doesn't go above 480p according to the logs on my Tablet Z.
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I don't think there would be much differences in your images above.
Since each tablet you used has different brightness and contrast, so the picture sharpness looks different.
I have attached my photos showing pictures from XTZ and iPad Air. The two are a little out of sync.
Look at detail of Liam's shirt. They are the same on both XTZ and Air.
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You can't see any quality difference in the pictures because the photo resolution is way too low for that. 480p video has 480 pixels in the vertical direction, and your photos doesn't even have that amount of vertical pixels for each display.
To definitely see what resolution your Netflix is maxing out at, search for "example short" in Netflix and play the "Example Short 23.976" video (in U.S. Netflix). The video shows the current playback bitrate and size in the upper-left corner. For me it maxes out at "1750 kbps, 720x480", which is consistent with what I saw in the APK, and which is not HD.
Sorry to bump this old thread, but it seems Netflix has finally let it loose on full HD streaming to other Android devices, at least on both my LG (G Pad 8.3 and G2 phone). I think since two Netflix app updates ago. The difference is immediately noticeable - same biting sharpness I've been used to from iPads and Windows 8.1. I imagine this would be across the board on all Android devices.
I remembered this thread when I searched "LG G Pad Netflix stuttering", which very surprisingly was rectified by rebooting the G Pad.
Edit, seems Netflix has "fixed" it again with the new update. The super sharpness is once again gone. In trying to fix the stuttering issue, I updated the Netflix app to the current release. I'm not seeing things. I've gone nuts since the XTZ in trying to see what's going on with Netflix on Android. I settled on a scene on Skyfall. At 12:21 the conference call speaker (plus M's wrinkles on her face), you'll see the very fine details when on HD, which I saw on the G Pad on the last Netflix app update. It's gone now.
I give up.
Edit 2: I think Netflix is messing around with things on their backend. A couple days ago I started noticing titles actually say "HD" when browsing on the Android app. Now it's gone. I went as far as downloading the .apk for 3.3.3 and 3.4.0, nope HD is gone.
Now I give up.
very poor product, equally poor customer service
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I believe it is because of DRM mess, i.e. the Widevine DRM interfaces are not implemented properly or something about it is different, etc.
I modified the Netflix APK to enable verbose logging and I looked through the code, and it seems to check specifically for Nexus 7 2013 on Android 4.3 only to enable Widevine DRM mode, otherwise the Widevine mode is disabled (which, I guess, disables HD playback completely). On Android 4.4 there is no separate check for device name, so maybe HD playback could work with Netflix for any 4.4 tablet that implements the Android Widevine DRM interface properly (or it could be it is limited in other places as well)...
And yes, the playback doesn't go above 480p according to the logs on my Tablet Z.
You can't see any quality difference in the pictures because the photo resolution is way too low for that. 480p video has 480 pixels in the vertical direction, and your photos doesn't even have that amount of vertical pixels for each display.
To definitely see what resolution your Netflix is maxing out at, search for "example short" in Netflix and play the "Example Short 23.976" video (in U.S. Netflix). The video shows the current playback bitrate and size in the upper-left corner. For me it maxes out at "1750 kbps, 720x480", which is consistent with what I saw in the APK, and which is not HD.
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I bought this tablet thinking it would be amazing, dust proof, water resistant, slim slick design, SD card etc. It is very poor for the price I paid here in UK £380, live streaming rarely works, it goes off after about 30 seconds. Battery life poor, takes forever charging. Uploading videos is shocking, producing such poor quality videos even from the HD GoPro cameras, it's all blurry. I wish now I had stuck with my original plan of staying with Apple. Waste of money, customer service on Twitter absolutely useless, saying for me to do the same thing "system repair" black black black, why should we have to do this after paying nearly £400 for a tablet. I did do the system repair process and it made absolutely no difference whatsoever. Avoid Sony Xperia at all costs.
Back to Apple for me after my refund. Boom
Hey there guys, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the best Android TV device is on the market. Only catch, it has to be rootable. I do not really care if it is a dongle or some other kind of unit. As long as it is rootable, and runts 4.2 + android.
Any suggestions or ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Anyone?
Best Android TV
Hi. The best on my opinion is the Razer Forge, if you plan to play games on top hardware developed for Android and enjoy 4k streaming(full HD). About rooting possibility, don't know yet but almost all devices like these allow it if not now, early will.
Forgetting my advise you won't fail buying a Minix X8 H Plus... Its 4k even.
Best regards!
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Hi. The best on my opinion is the Razer Forge, if you plan to play games on top hardware developed for Android and enjoy 4k streaming(full HD). About rooting possibility, don't know yet but almost all devices like these allow it if not now, early will.
Forgetting my advise you won't fail buying a Minix X8 H Plus... Its 4k even.
Best regards!
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What about a gbox q?
G Box Q
Awesome specs, but not available in my country yet! Better price either. Some reviews gave outstanding performance on 4k. Why not?
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Awesome specs, but not available in my country yet! Better price either. Some reviews gave outstanding performance on 4k. Why not?
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Thanks dude.... I appreciate it
I bought a Tronfy MX-IV, looking at some of the other boxes it has the same design as the Beelink. Quite satisfied with it. Runs 4.4.2 with Kodi 14.2, 4k support. But i do recommend buying an airmouse. Most of these boxes come with a simple IR remote.
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What about a gbox q?
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The G Box Q is an older MX2 Dual Core System.
Depending on what you need I'd go with the following in this order.
Google Nexus ADT-1 <- GET THIS
nVidia Shield TV <- Or that
If you want to Game! since these both have the nVida Tegra 4 GPU, and you can hack the ADT-1 to use the nVidia Service to play Half-Life 2 in it
On the Chinese side....
Minix Neo x8-H Plus <- Probably the BEST DEVICE you can get for ~150.00€ GigE, 802.11ac, Hardware decode of h.265 >2160p*
Beelink S82 Plus (Or any other Generic S82 Plus [2G/16G] Device you can find. Amlogic S812 SoC) <- Again these should be slightly cheaper though they are S812 SoCs they lack a number of features such as GigE 802.11ac and Hardware decode.
Slightly cheaper still are the current dead-end products such as the MXIII, S82 / S89 - S802 SoC Boxes. The "Trick" here is to miss the 1G/8G Units and, go straight on for the better 2G/8G, which have 802.11 a/b/g/n, and Bluetooth. These all have Arm Mali GPUs which are great, but not really in the same league with nVidia. If your just want a cheap efficient replacement for that HTPC then these are the right Boxes for you.
*NOTE You have to make sure your getting the *-H Plus version the lower Plus version with out the "H" only does Software decode >720p.
You'll note it in the slight price difference. In the end its about what you're willing to pay up font for!
If you're waiting for an Android TV Device, wait for the Nvidia Shield Android TV. It will be the most powerful device there, and it will also be able to output 4k and 7.1 surround sound. I have the Razer Forge TV, and while it's nice, I don't have Netflix Support.
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If you're waiting for an Android TV Device, wait for the Nvidia Shield Android TV. It will be the most powerful device there, and it will also be able to output 4k and 7.1 surround sound. I have the Razer Forge TV, and while it's nice, I don't have Netflix Support.
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specs look awesome for that, but you think it would be rootable? and run Kodi? (not a big fan of Plex)
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specs look awesome for that, but you think it would be rootable? and run Kodi? (not a big fan of Plex)
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Forge can run Kodi, as well as the Nexus Player, so I'd assume the Shield TV can as well. Though I'm returning my Forge TV, as the No Netflix has really gotten to me.
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The G Box Q is an older MX2 Dual Core System.
Depending on what you need I'd go with the following in this order.
Google Nexus ADT-1 <- GET THIS
nVidia Shield TV <- Or that
If you want to Game! since these both have the nVida Tegra 4 GPU, and you can hack the ADT-1 to use the nVidia Service to play Half-Life 2 in it
On the Chinese side....
Minix Neo x8-H Plus <- Probably the BEST DEVICE you can get for ~150.00€ GigE, 802.11ac, Hardware decode of h.265 >2160p*
Beelink S82 Plus (Or any other Generic S82 Plus [2G/16G] Device you can find. Amlogic S812 SoC) <- Again these should be slightly cheaper though they are S812 SoCs they lack a number of features such as GigE 802.11ac and Hardware decode.
Slightly cheaper still are the current dead-end products such as the MXIII, S82 / S89 - S802 SoC Boxes. The "Trick" here is to miss the 1G/8G Units and, go straight on for the better 2G/8G, which have 802.11 a/b/g/n, and Bluetooth. These all have Arm Mali GPUs which are great, but not really in the same league with nVidia. If your just want a cheap efficient replacement for that HTPC then these are the right Boxes for you.
*NOTE You have to make sure your getting the *-H Plus version the lower Plus version with out the "H" only does Software decode >720p.
You'll note it in the slight price difference. In the end its about what you're willing to pay up font for!
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This guy is giving sound advice and seems to know what he is talking about.
I have bought several devices and have come to find that MINIX has the best boxes and makes the most progress with them. Plus it seems to have the biggest development community pumping out ROMS and early releases of firmware.
I currently have both and MINIX x8-h and a MINIX x8-h plus. I normally keep them rooted and on the latest FinlessBob ROM. They play everything I throw at them, from locally stored videos, to YouTube, to Amazon Prime or Netflix, or other less talked about streaming apps.
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This guy is giving sound advice and seems to know what he is talking about.
I have bought several devices and have come to find that MINIX has the best boxes and makes the most progress with them. Plus it seems to have the biggest development community pumping out ROMS and early releases of firmware.
I currently have both and MINIX x8-h and a MINIX x8-h plus. I normally keep them rooted and on the latest FinlessBob ROM. They play everything I throw at them, from locally stored videos, to YouTube, to Amazon Prime or Netflix, or other less talked about streaming apps.
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Can you play Netflix in HD on those Boxes? What about Google Play Movies?
I don't think I've ever seen a build.prop from a Minix Box yet. But, for the rest of those Amalogic Boxes... Including the newer k200 (S812 SoC's). The Line:
media.amplayer.widevineenable= has been set to false. The upshot here is that Google Play Movies WILL NOT WORK, until you flip that bit to true, and reboot.
As to Amazon Prime... I wasn't able to get it working on my MXIII... A case of to many inter-operating Apps.. Install this, to install that so that App A) can call upon App b) (The Player), to work... Oddly enough the Kodi add-on just WORKS! Even with HD stuff... As for Netflix though? I'm not a customer of theres just yet.
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Can you play Netflix in HD on those Boxes? What about Google Play Movies?
I don't think I've ever seen a build.prop from a Minix Box yet. But, for the rest of those Amalogic Boxes... Including the newer k200 (S812 SoC's). The Line:
media.amplayer.widevineenable= has been set to false. The upshot here is that Google Play Movies WILL NOT WORK, until you flip that bit to true, and reboot.
As to Amazon Prime... I wasn't able to get it working on my MXIII... A case of to many inter-operating Apps.. Install this, to install that so that App A) can call upon App b) (The Player), to work... Oddly enough the Kodi add-on just WORKS! Even with HD stuff... As for Netflix though? I'm not a customer of theres just yet.
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Good questions, but my answers my not be the most fulfilling. When I first tried Netflix, I was using a friends account and did not specifically test HD playback. I do not use Netflix at the moment, so I'm not able to test again.
As for Amazon Prime i followed the app (a) to app (b) stuff and I think the way it works now is when I click on the app icon it actually takes me into the browser and allows me to select the movie I want to play and then it opens in MX Player.
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Good questions, but my answers my not be the most fulfilling. When I first tried Netflix, I was using a friends account and did not specifically test HD playback. I do not use Netflix at the moment, so I'm not able to test again.
As for Amazon Prime i followed the app (a) to app (b) stuff and I think the way it works now is when I click on the app icon it actually takes me into the browser and allows me to select the movie I want to play and then it opens in MX Player.
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Yeah this to me seems wrong on soo many levels... I shouldn't have to jump though hoops just to watch something. It also doesn't do much to help when the stuff they have (Amazon Germany), is third-rate junk at best, and isn't even worth the One off payment of 50€ per annum at worst. Thankfully my two-week cooling off period is about to close soon ( I think tomorrow, or Thursday IIRC)... I shall definitely be making sure to cancel my 30 Day Trial ASAP!
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Yeah this to me seems wrong on soo many levels... I shouldn't have to jump though hoops just to watch something. It also doesn't do much to help when the stuff they have (Amazon Germany), is third-rate junk at best, and isn't even worth the One off payment of 50€ per annum at worst. Thankfully my two-week cooling off period is about to close soon ( I think tomorrow, or Thursday IIRC)... I shall definitely be making sure to cancel my 30 Day Trial ASAP!
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I hear you! I think its important to note, that this is a problem caused by Amazon tho, not the device manufacturer. Amazon does not have a very effective way of accessing prime videos on Android. I use prime because I do a lot of shopping on Amazon, so to me the movies are a bonus and now that I have it set up the right way, it really isn't too hard to use.
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I hear you! I think its important to note, that this is a problem caused by Amazon tho, not the device manufacturer. Amazon does not have a very effective way of accessing prime videos on Android. I use prime because I do a lot of shopping on Amazon, so to me the movies are a bonus and now that I have it set up the right way, it really isn't too hard to use.
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But, it is Amazons problem... The world is moving the hell away from MicroSoft's Silverlight as fast, as it can... Perhaps you might have heard that Goggle finally started removing NPAPI from Chrome... The bit that made Silverlight work on it? And, we're talking about PC's here now, NOT Android!
Besides I have to ask myself... If I must use something as bad as the MX Player (As more in what it devolved into, then what it used to be!), to render Amazon Prime in the first place.... Why even bother with any DRM in the first place? And, IF I needed such a Renderer, to, get this working... (Something that truly escapes me!), This might explain to my why I'm otherwise unable to use it outside of XBMC/Kodi. Which does work.
But, I suspect the "Difference" between you, and I is that you're using Amazon.com (US) - With the best Content going... While I'm on Amazon.de (Germany), - Which only has utter CRAP on it! As to the other "freebees" I don't own a Kindle, and I don't need any Free Shipping from them either. I joined this "venture" from the other-side as a VOD Provider with other goodies tossed in. Perhaps that was my failing here...
I have two MXQ android tv boxes in the house and they're working great, I also have rooted firmware installed on them which also includes gamepad support but I haven't tested that as I brought the mxq solely for using kodi.
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I bought a Tronfy MX-IV, looking at some of the other boxes it has the same design as the Beelink. Quite satisfied with it. Runs 4.4.2 with Kodi 14.2, 4k support. But i do recommend buying an airmouse. Most of these boxes come with a simple IR remote.
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Yes this device is not bad. Tronfy is also a tv box brand not that hot. Mind if i ask where did you offer it?
As i see a thread about Minix Neo X8-H. The tv box comes with an M1 air mouse. Many uses for the air mouse. Light and with great material.
So if MX-IV comes with one, that's perfect
The Tronfy MXIV doesn't come with an air mouse, but those are pretty cheap. Aside from that, it's a great box. Just waiting for Lollipop firmware and it will be perfect (as the Android TV Play Store and a lot of the apps are 5.x only).
Probably a dumb question, but we are getting 720/1080p HD playback on the Netflix app... Right? I only ask cause I went looking for information and all I found was this:
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
I also notice the 5x and the 6p aren't on there, so it's probably that it's an ancient article and all newer phones and tablets are getting it, but sometimes I wonder. (I know it's show dependent).
Also if it is HD, are we getting 720 or 1080?
I would be very surprised if we were not getting 1080p, assuming you have Netflix plan that offers HD streams. Even my ancient Nexus 7 was capable of 720p.
I just learned that Netflix now has three tiers offering SD, HD, and Ultra HD. Apparently my plan is locked at $7.99 for HD, but it looks like I will need to upgrade by next year. Ah well, happy to pay it.
Actually, the Nexus 9 is limited to standard definition, which is quite surprising, given that dmantilal is right about the Nexus 7 (2013) supporting HD streaming.
It comes down to DRM. Google/HTC either never put it through Netflix's certification program, or it couldn't pass testing.
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Actually, the Nexus 9 is limited to standard definition, which is quite surprising, given that dmantilal is right about the Nexus 7 (2013) supporting HD streaming.
It comes down to DRM. Google/HTC either never put it through Netflix's certification program, or it couldn't pass testing.
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Eh, that website *SPECIFICALLY* says that N9 gets HD. It is the 5th item from the top of the list, right below N7/13.
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Eh, that website *SPECIFICALLY* says that N9 gets HD. It is the 5th item from the top of the list, right below N7/13.
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Are you looking at this page. That page didn't seem to have the Nexus 9 listed last time I looked at it- I wonder how new it is.
That's interesting, though. It's been a few days since I tried. My Nexus 9 is running 6.0, but I haven't applied the January patch, nor have I installed the new Netflix update that just came out a day or two ago.
I'll try the test again when I get home. You can try it, too. Search for "Test Patterns" in netflix and start playing any video there. The video will report what resolution it is playing at. It will always start low, but in my case it never got up to HD resolution.
I'm definitely still limited to 720x480 resolution on my Nexus 9, despite running current firmware and the most recent version of the Netflix app.
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I'm definitely still limited to 720x480 resolution on my Nexus 9, despite running current firmware and the most recent version of the Netflix app.
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Same here running CyanogenMod 13. The Netflix app maxes out at 1750kbit 720×480 when running the official NetFlix "test patterns" videos. I tried the hacked app with no luck. Is there some way to mod the build.prop to fake our device and get HD? (I tried & failed.)
Although I would prefer 1080p, I must say that with my above-average up-close vision that 720x480 @ 1750Kbit is more than adequate. Though, I am not someone who has ever watched a movie and said "if only there were more pixels!". I would rather watch The Matrix at VCD quality than Real World Road Rules in 4K.
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Same here running CyanogenMod 13. The Netflix app maxes out at 1750kbit 720×480 when running the official NetFlix "test patterns" videos. I tried the hacked app with no luck. Is there some way to mod the build.prop to fake our device and get HD? (I tried & failed.)
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I doubt it. I strongly suspect the SD limitation is enforced by DRM. Netflix is fairly tight-lipped about their DRM requirements, but my understanding is that to get HD video, a device needs to implement some type of hardware-supported DRM system. On Android devices, I believe that's usually DRM supported by ARM TrustZone.
If that's the case, a hacked app wouldn't be enough. You'd need to hack the code that runs in TrustZone, which is set up very early in the boot process.
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Although I would prefer 1080p, I must say that with my above-average up-close vision that 720x480 @ 1750Kbit is more than adequate. Though, I am not someone who has ever watched a movie and said "if only there were more pixels!". I would rather watch The Matrix at VCD quality than Real World Road Rules in 4K.
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For casual viewing, you're right, it isn't that bad. But I think you'd definitely notice the jump from 480p to 1080p.
@letsief
You have seen the hacked Netflix HD app? It seems version 3 introduced DRM but earlier versions were capable of being hacked.
Considering that almost every Android device being capable of 720p or better, the need for Netflix certification makes no sense to me.
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@letsief
You have seen the hacked Netflix HD app? It seems version 3 introduced DRM but earlier versions were capable of being hacked.
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Interesting. I didn't know about that. I saw your earlier reference to a hacked Netflix app, but I didn't know what you were specifically referring to.
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Considering that almost every Android device being capable of 720p or better, the need for Netflix certification makes no sense to me.
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I assume certification is intended to check for security issues, rather than performance.
Good news! As of today, Netflix is streaming in 1080p on my Nexus 9.
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Good news! As of today, Netflix is streaming in 1080p on my Nexus 9.
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Mine too. Bitrate = 5800kbps; Res = 1920x1080
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Mine too. Bitrate = 5800kbps; Res = 1920x1080
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How do you check?
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How do you check?
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With this: http://www.netflix.com/watch/70206978 or this: http://www.netflix.com/watch/80018585 or just search for "test" in Netflix app, there are 4 seasons of it.
I just ran the test pattern and ran at 1920x1080 at 3000kbps on my Nexus 9.
I had to clear my data and cache after upgrading to 6.0 for it to get past 1750 kbps. Now works at 5000 kbps just fine.
Apologies if this has already been discussed, but from what I understand this phone supports HDR10 and all the necessary Widevine DRM for Netflix to be able to support HDR (which would be cool), presumably fairly easily. They've just added support for the Razer phone.
I've just opened a chat session with Netflix to enquire about it and they didn't have an update but I asked them to put in a feature request for it. This took a couple of minutes.
I just thought perhaps that if other users on here care about this and were to do the same thing (maybe with Google for YouTube too), it might speed things up a bit?
Got my mate 10 pro and a bit dissappointed because it does not support even HD on Netflix.
I am on their 4K tier
I saw that it had Widevine L1, but I couldn't get Netflix to play above 720x480.
Here the original thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/mate-10-support-hd-netflix-youtube-t3715175/page3
Hi guys,
recently i got a oppo reno 5G which is basicly a 10x zoom 5G version. it is currently on color os 6, it's widevine L1, but unable to play prime video at HD, best quality is only at 0.46GB/hr. as reno 10x zoom 4g already updated to color os 7, just wonder if any change been made through the update? 5G version should get color os 7 in June. thanks.
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Hi guys,
recently i got a oppo reno 5G which is basicly a 10x zoom 5G version. it is currently on color os 6, it's widevine L1, but unable to play prime video at HD, best quality is only at 0.46GB/hr. as reno 10x zoom 4g already updated to color os 7, just wonder if any change been made through the update? 5G version should get color os 7 in June. thanks.
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If it it helps I have COS7 on the 10XZ and can play full HD content on Netflix and Disney+
"0.46GB/hr" what does this mean? In terms of quality do you mean you are only getting 480p?
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If it it helps I have COS7 on the 10XZ and can play full HD content on Netflix and Disney+
"0.46GB/hr" what does this mean? In terms of quality do you mean you are only getting 480p?
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thanks for you reply, good to hear that. one more question, can you remember if you can play at 1080P when you were on cos 6?
yes, you are right, in prime video app, when choose streaming quality the "BEST" i get is 0.46GB/hr, meaning 480P. My wife's p30 pro has BEST like 1.8GB/hr.
i was suprised that my old pixel 2xl had same 0.46GB/hr, never notice that before.
also may i ask couple of more question since you are here.
how is your cos 7 experience? i read from chinese web, many users compalint about lag, battery, heating, and other issues. moreover when i read from Gsmarena "Oppo Reno 10x zoom - user opinions and reviews" most of people there had issues with cos7, and most of them suggest stay on cos6.
i am confused.
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thanks for you reply, good to hear that. one more question, can you remember if you can play at 1080P when you were on cos 6?
yes, you are right, in prime video app, when choose streaming quality the "BEST" i get is 0.46GB/hr, meaning 480P. My wife's p30 pro has BEST like 1.8GB/hr.
i was suprised that my old pixel 2xl had same 0.46GB/hr, never notice that before.
also may i ask couple of more question since you are here.
how is your cos 7 experience? i read from chinese web, many users compalint about lag, battery, heating, and other issues. moreover when i read from Gsmarena "Oppo Reno 10x zoom - user opinions and reviews" most of people there had issues with cos7, and most of them suggest stay on cos6.
i am confused.
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My experience with COS7
Faster, more fluid usability. No lags. None with COS6 either, but the UI is now even smoother.
I'm using the global model (CPH1919). The Chinese model is inferior to the global model and as such, users will experience some variation between COS6 and COS7.
Ignore any reviews, etc from China. It's different.
In answer to your issue with HD, I can confirm that I had no issues with receiving HD - 1080 or 4K. I'm wondering if your settings on your app are set to "Auto". This can happen with YouTube and if you manually request 1080 or above, then that will be the normal setting (unless a video is specifically of a lower standard format of course).
I have attached an example from YouTube settings. I have overridden the standard setting, so I get at least 1080 over WiFi and at least 480 over mobile data.
Best suggestion I can offer, I'm afraid. Let me know how you get on.
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Let me know how you get on.
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Thanks for your reminder, I find there is a option to " use hardware acceleration" on my old pixel 2xl phone. Make it HD now. However, the option isn't even there on my Reno 5G at all. Have no idea.
i installed netflix and in the setting, it shows widevine L1 and FULL HD, i guess it's fine with netflix. on youtube i have no problem watch 1080P content. maybe it is just the prime video had something to do with the phone.
I read online, cos 7 brings some sort of GPU acceleration, not sure if that will help solve this issue.
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Thanks for your reminder, I find there is a option to " use hardware acceleration" on my old pixel 2xl phone. Make it HD now. However, the option isn't even there on my Reno 5G at all. Have no idea.
i installed netflix and in the setting, it shows widevine L1 and FULL HD, i guess it's fine with netflix. on youtube i have no problem watch 1080P content. maybe it is just the prime video had something to do with the phone.
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Looks like Prime video is the issue. I have exactly same specs for Netflix
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Looks like Prime video is the issue. I have exactly same specs for Netflix
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if that is the case, i guess there is nothing i can do. Maybe one day after a update, it will be fixed. it is pain to watch 480p on a 6.6 inch screen. by the way, may i ask you battery drain during standby? like 8 hrs standby, yestday i reset my phone with off screen clock off, wifi/bluetooth/location/nfc, gamil/photo auto sync,backup on., no sim. it drained 4% in 9hrs. i think it is ok. do not know what normal drain like.
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if that is the case, i guess there is nothing i can do. Maybe one day after a update, it will be fixed. it is pain to watch 480p on a 6.6 inch screen. by the way, may i ask you battery drain during standby? like 8 hrs standby, yestday i reset my phone with off screen clock off, wifi/bluetooth/location/nfc, gamil/photo auto sync,backup on., no sim. it drained 4% in 9hrs. i think it is ok. do not know what normal drain like.
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4% in 9 hours is spot on. No need to worry. Battery management on this device is outstanding
Does anyone know what the status of HDR playback on Netflix, Amazon and Disney+ is? I assume this is down to the actual apps lacking support for the phone, but I had read that HDR used to work on the 10x Zoom at some point last year.
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Does anyone know what the status of HDR playback on Netflix, Amazon and Disney+ is? I assume this is down to the actual apps lacking support for the phone, but I had read that HDR used to work on the 10x Zoom at some point last year.
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Netflix and Disney+ work perfectly at 1080p for me. I don't have Prime, but I know some people have struggled with it - mainly 5G devices restricted to 480p.
Screenshot shows Netflix data. No HDR but this is not a problem
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Netflix and Disney+ work perfectly at 1080p for me. I don't have Prime, but I know some people have struggled with it - mainly 5G devices restricted to 480p.
Screenshot shows Netflix data. No HDR but this is not a problem
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They work well in HD for me as well. It's just that the screen is capable of HDR and whilst sometimes I find HDR can be either not very useful or a bit too much, it would be nice for it to work as the screen is capable. Having said that, I compared my playback in Netflix to that on a Oneplus 7t (which is supported for HDR in Netflix) and there was little/no obvious difference (bar the slightly cool rendition on the Oppo).
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They work well in HD for me as well. It's just that the screen is capable of HDR and whilst sometimes I find HDR can be either not very useful or a bit too much, it would be nice for it to work as the screen is capable. Having said that, I compared my playback in Netflix to that on a Oneplus 7t (which is supported for HDR in Netflix) and there was little/no obvious difference (bar the slightly cool rendition on the Oppo).
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Sorry...my screenshot wouldn't upload (maybe it's a HDR thing lol)