Hi guys,
What do you think about this phone?
I already own a OPX, but I need another new phone for my wife. Instead of buying again the same phone, I'm thinking to vary a bit and try also something else.
From the specs point of view, the P8 seems to be slightly better; the nice thing it's that I found it at the same price I bought the OPX, considering also its shipping cost (P8 is free shipping on that store).
What I'm not sure about, it's the custom development scene. The phone has been out for months, but AFAIK there's no CM available, while root is.
Also, I don't think I'm going to appreciate the heavy lifting done by Huawei to the system UI.
What do you think?
Thanks for any insight/thoughts.
I also liked the P8 and used to own the P6, development is very poor and updates are also horribly slow with Huawei
would avoid
You can forget about third party development unless they start releasing sources. Huawei have to be one of the worst along with Samsung as both use their own SoCs.
Agreed. The long standing problem of Huawei is their lack of support for their released products and late release(if they ever release!) their sources. This is a major advantage in owning phones of oneplus type brands.
Thanks everyone for the valuable comments.
don't buy huawei phone if you are a geek
points to highlight:
- Huawei Phones don't get S/W updates from Android Version to the next, you are stuck with what you get with the phone
- Huawei Phones usually don't get S/W updates at all, unless major issues happen, security issues are not mandatory fixed
- Huawei Phones don't get sold to people who has money to donate to developers, hence developers are less interested in developing for it
- Huawei Phones has Huawei' CPU and GPU, this makes the developer less than enthusiastic to develop for H/W used only by one manufacturer who dont sell tens of millions of units of the same device, and depends heavily on the volume of KINDS of devices to compensate the lack of volume sales per model.
End to end, you are better going with OPX than Huawei Phones all together
xda_dentex said:
Hi guys,
What do you think about this phone?
What I'm not sure about, it's the custom development scene. The phone has been out for months, but AFAIK there's no CM available, while root is.
Also, I don't think I'm going to appreciate the heavy lifting done by Huawei to the system UI.
What do you think?
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@solomhamada
Thanks. At this point huawei is no more an option, I guess. [emoji6]
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Figured it would make sense to have a backup after nearly washing my Samsung galaxy lol.
There a lot of cheap smart phones out now from blu..sky ..figo..iview and so on but there seems to almost nothing in the way of support so your stuck on roms dating back to kitkat.
Any ideas?
Ohh must be able to work with wind in good old Canada.
You would probably be better served getting a slightly used older phone, like the Nexus 5 or 6 or OnePlus One. They can be found at reasonable prices online and support your network. New budget phones just don't attract interest from developers, generally, so have less options for rooting and customizing.
Less Expansive (OK, CHEAP) Phones
Personally, I've had what some folks would call a decent "experience" with FIGO phones. Very basic Android 5.1 configurations. Minimal bloatware. A service operation with people who actually respond to requests with useful answers.
I got tired of BLU products sending all my confidential data to China while insisting nothing was wrong with their factory build. Footnote - an eventual OTA update from BLU, presumably to address the malware issue they never admitted to but see recent reports about it in such 'questionable rumor mills' as Consumer Reports, bricked it for me, anyway. So I would avoid BLU like the plague. They seem to have some SERIOUS lack of service & support issues. At least that has been MY experience with BLU.
Currently using the better FIGO phone (the Atrium, at about 100 bucks). Have a smaller FIGO phone (the Virtue 2, at 50 bucks or so) as a backup and a place to experiment. One of these days I will learn enough to figure out how to get TWRP to work on it - an MTK 6580 chipset - and eventually CM 12. Can't afford to experiment with a phone you actually need, in my book. Now, these phones are by no means flagship killers, but the better one is a reliable basic device and the lesser of the two is a functional Android device that is inexpensive enough to be a throw away, or at least a reason not to cry if I manage to turn it into a complete paperweight. It has actually proven remarkably resistant to my lack of skills and has been recovered from what I would have thought of as certain doom more than a few times
If you going for really cheap I bought a nexus 4 for 50 bucks on eBay a few days ago also a I phone 4s was 60$ plus delivery to where I was at on Facebook marketplace a month ago so 50 usable phones are out there you just got to look hard
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hey everyone so i'm clearly enjoying me Redmi 5 but when compared to the other redmi phones or even xiaomi phones overall, it's getting very little attention, like only a few roms and all are nougat roms while others like even the redmi 4 already got an android P rom even though our device is newer and actually better in overall performance, so i think we really should make the forum more lively if we want more interest and roms to come this way
What ideas could you guys have to make our phone a bit more popular? comment below please
Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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I think a lot of people who interested in purchasing this phone end up buying the redmi 5 plus model as the price increase is quite low by comparison based on my country market. Anyways, I do agree with having a 3gb ram and a 18x9 display with the range of price given by the market is quite good. TLDR, I think the Redmi 5 Plus does overshadow the redmi 5 model,thus causing low number of custom roms development.
Slightly offtopic. In my country there is a bigger price difference between the Redmi 5 and 5 plus in most mainstream online stores, and I've been able to get my mother a Redmi 5 2/16 gb for literally 107 dollars converted and adjusted for vat! Dirt cheap. In comparison my oneplus 3 costed 500 dollars 2 years ago.
I am able to run Blokada no-root adblocker on the Redmi 5 if I turn off battery optimizations and turn on "keep alive". That's all we need from a cheaper phone isn't it? MIUI gets kinda regular updates and recent security patches, and is an overall solid and lightweight ROM. Not a lot of bloat unlike other cheaper phones.
I'm not even expecting much custom rom's when Xiaomi provides such good support for their phones
The new Rom packaging has screwed a lot of developers. The Market range is far to High to obtain any User investigating for Development.
This device has a neat Stock Experience. The optimisations decreased highly with any Update of the Android version. The Graveyard of Technology is high, with all the cluttering, Invention of Removal of Bloatware, Security Improvements and alternatives of existing Modifications, Hardware that went in and out it was like launching a Rocket. Much will be missed..
In common, Developers go there where is the most of Sources provided. Mainly Google. Hardware manufacturers who change poorly their Hardware providers are favourites, like Samsung.
The Application security is Poor. So, here in the End developers meet Apple as their Dead End.
Hi All
I bought a P20 Pro around October last year hoping I could make use of the 40MP camera for my latest hobby, microscope photography.
I really like Open Camera which works really well for the kind of thing I like to do. I've been very active on the Huawei forum at https://uk.community.huawei.com/ but have kind of given up trying to make the P20 Pro work in the way I want.
What I really wanted was 40MP RAW for 3rd Party apps and I've banged on for months now but got absolutely nowhere. During that time, I think I've got a bit of a feel for Huawei as a company.
If you have a suggestion, they say nice things like "hopefully it will be included in a future release". But there is no further feedback about any issue. I get the feel that what they want to do is innovate a new phone every 6 months but do no support.
If you check out the customer service reviews at TrustPilot:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.huawei.com
You can see their rating is only 1 star with users saying they left 1 star 'cos you can leave 0 stars!
A few months ago they stopped offering bootloader unlock to "protect us". Well, don't you just love it when someone takes something away from you and tells you it's for your own good? Reminds me of being a child!
Do you know what OS I use on my computer? Well, any one I fancy! It's my hardware!
The above is all a pity because the hardware is excellent, but the software included not much so. For example, jpegs are over sharpened and there's no option to adjust this feature or turn it off.
The phone only allows RAW for it's own stock app. There's no feature in the stock app to save anywhere apart from Internal memory. I want to use the camera software on my LCD monitor, but through HDMI, the stock camera app doesn't rotate, so the image on the LCD is always portrait! I can fix this with Open Camera but there's no support for RAW which I need for heavy post processing.
This all might sound quite negative but I've enjoyed participating in the Forum and the nice administrators sent me a Joby tripod to review (which I kept) and a 10,000mah power bank to say thanks. The forum admins are very nice, but the one thing that does stick in my craw a little bit is to keep being chivvied along saying an update would be soon, but after a few months of hearing the same thing, you know it ain't never going to happen.
If they told me 3 months ago they have no intention of fixing the issues, I would have sold the P20 Pro and got something else, so a bit of a waste of time.
But any road up..... I spotted the Mi9 with a luvverly 48MP camera and started to read the specs and ask questions on this forum. It sounded quite good and I was in Spain last week so I bought one.
I'm still learning, but am astounded that the phone is so cheap and in many ways, better than any Huawei phone, even the P30 Pro particularly with benchmarks. The battery in the P20 Pro is 4000mah and the Mi9 only 3300mah so which is better? Well, according to gsmarena, the Mi9 lasts longer as the Huawei Kirin chipset runs so hot. Maybe the P20 Pro is better if you fancy a fried egg?
But the real game changer for me is, of course the ability to unlock the bootloader and then the availability of ROMs. I'm still learning, but Xiaomi seem to like feedback and are offering weekly dev builds. In the 4 months I've owned the P20 Pro, there have been a couple of security updates and a Pie update, but none of the features anyone has asked for. My latest update was the Feb. 1st security update which I got in March. Now it's almost April...
By contrast, Xiaomi release the source code of their ROMs on day 1 so developers love them! If you check out the activity on the P20 Pro XDA forum, it's much lower than the Mi9.
So as I say, it's all a bit new for me, but I have high hopes of getting a phone that does exactly what I want. Somewhere between the developers and Xiaomi lies the features I'm looking for.
All in all, a good move for me. I'll likely be putting my P20 Pro on eBay soon. Unlocked an rooted lol.
Sorry to drivel on.....
Cheers
Steve
The lack of activity on the P20 forum is more than obvious, nobody at XDA likes Huawei for what they did, and probably never will.
Yes it's a bit of a ghost town!
It did make me think that Huawei simply wanted to clear the developers out of their market but even the hardware support for ordinary users under warranty is appalling with customers being told their phone has water damage (on an IP67 rated phone!) and the customers saying it had never been near water. Phones coming back still broken and on and on.
I think despite their reputation for innovation, the lack of support will kill them in the future.
Well, roll on Wednesday for unlocky flashy flashy!
Keep Smilin'
Steve
Haha, Steve. You seem to be the cheerful one, I hope your happiness and cheerfulness stay with you. Just don't join any telegram groups and you'll be fine.
Yes better than yesterday lol
Why shouldn't I join a telegram group?
With all this upheaval, what do you think about grabbing one while they're going cheap, used and good condition?
Im aware of the circumstances and that Huawei banning bootloader unlocking makes the situation even worse. If we could find a way to unlock the bootloader by unofficial means, I'd be happy to pick one up if there's decent 3rd party developer support
Could this be an opportunity or just a waste of time and money for us?
I've just bought one for £520 and it's only a month old. I'm prepared to take the risk for such a good phone and hopefully this Trump crap will come to an end soon
I have one sealed here myself but debating if I should have opted for Mate 20 Pro instead for worthwhile savings
Things could possibly reverse back to normal, if the ban goes full on, it could come to a total of $11m lost of business for the states with the companies combine, plus other possible complications, even regardless of that, and full ban on huawei, existing devices are not effected going by what Google have said
I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
Yeah i'd say buy it or get the mate 20 pro it's a better deal.
It has a better screen also
Although i don't care for that myself
i have a p30 pro love the phone but i am thinking about getting rid of it becaues of the hole ban thing i buy my phone off line every year and just tread my old one in so just looking at it from a money aspect
It's still worth every cent of the original retail price, let alone the massive discounts you can find. Its the best phone of 2019, and I've tried them all...
I agree. I'm watching a few variants on ebay, mainly the VOG-L04 model. If prices continue to fall, I might end up with more than one.
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I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
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Ditto.
I just picked mine up about to days ago. And I paid premium price for it. I was looking for the best battery life, performance and camera. I'm not really a fan of Samsung. I have no complaints with this phone. Other then I have a defective figure print sensor.
Bought a new one about a week ago. Could not be much happier overall. I don't necessarily need Android Q. The phone is working fine as it is. However this might be the last Huawei I'll buy depending on what happens in the future. It's very unclear future for Huawei now. For current phones I don't care though. This phone has the hardware I need that no one else has.
No regrets for me too. I bought it after the news came out. P30 pro is already a futuristic device. Huawei can always use AOSP and we can use alternative for Google services
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I picked one up over the weekend, new. I'm not too bothered about the crap - it's a great phone, will get Q, will probably get security updates, and will definitely get Play store updates - that's good enough for me.
And it's a matter of time before either of the countries blink and things go back to normal
Well, I just picked one up brand new here in Canada. Coming from a Pixel 3xl. Don't regret it one bit. Nothing wrong with the pixel at all, but it fell short in a couple areas within the camera that the p30 pro delivers on. I don't really care about the situation happening, I believe it will get resolved.
I bought my P30 Pro before the ban for full price.
I love the fact that it has a best in class camera that's the most versatile in the industry, 2 day battery life, the fastest charging speeds and just its overall gorgeous design.
I have no regrets. I don't take politics seriously and think the news and media puts this in a scaremongering light as Google and various US-based companies wouldn't want to lose out on potential revenue and business.
Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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I thought that the smartphone division was sold to a chinese Company , maybe was Lenovo and Motorola .. my bad!
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And it's a matter of time before either of the countries blink and things go back to normal
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On the sidelines of the G20 summit in Osaka, Trump said “U.S. companies can sell their equipment to Huawei,” without going into detail. “We’re talking about equipment where there’s no great national security problem with it,” Trump continued. It’s not clear what this means for now, but it’s likely Huawei will be able to acquire basic components like Qualcomm processors and Google’s Android OS.
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I've been wondering whether to buy this device or not. I want to ask an experienced person. Will this device become popular in the custom community? I am looking forward to it being able to have countless custom ROMs like Redmi Note 7 series poco F1
I hope so.
I'm waiting to see which device to get. I like Xiaomi devices I hate the software.
None of the other manufacturers/ODM have the combo this has.
Good processor
rear or side fingerprint (optical is just useless)
Bootlocker unlock
Xiaomi.eu ( love hate with that. At least it's a custom rom -ish)
I wish there was a pop up camera.
Even I am waiting for it to become popular, OnePlus phones just aren't worth it anymore. I hope this gets popular soon, as soon as there is a working twrp available, I will go ahead and buy this phone.
The problem with Xiaomi is that they just make way too many phones. So it's difficult to get devs to get interested.
I think the Poco F3 has the best chance
People who do not travel have no option. Also, it's the EXACT same device just named differently everywhere, so Devs do not really have to any extra tweaking. I'm guessing, other than adding different configs so the device is recognized and flashed correctly nothing majorly deviating may be required.
Having said that the Vivo Iqoo 7 also deserves a good look this time from the modding community, it's going to sell by the bucket-loads and deservingly at that. The cams are miles better along with the 66w charging and in-built unannounced (sh*t google-dialer) call recording capability. I might just pick one up.
STAY FAR AWAY from the disaster of the 888 chips, all hail Qualcomm marketing division and Samsung fabrication.
EDIT: Sorry, seems like the wrong section, bye bye 888 K40 Pro/Mi11X Pro. No 888, even for free, do not need a portable 5nm grill.
Nobody is making any custom kernels/ROMs that I'm aware of for Mi11 or Redmi K40 Pro Plus. I sold mine (888 throttles too much, bad Qualcomm design, way too OC'd for consistent performance). Sorry for the bad news - most people are ditching their 888s in the Lineage group that I was in and they gave up on a fundraiser for it. Just these phones run way too hot and the chip is not properly configured (they tried to push it TOO FAR).... Even though the Mi11 is probably the most popular 888 out there, I only see development on OnePlus 9 / Pro series. Hate to be the spoiler here.
LeDiable said:
People who do not travel have no option. Also, it's the EXACT same device just named differently everywhere, so Devs do not really have to any extra tweaking. I'm guessing, other than adding different configs so the device is recognized and flashed correctly nothing majorly deviating may be required.
Having said that the Vivo Iqoo 7 also deserves a good look this time from the modding community, it's going to sell by the bucket-loads and deservingly at that. The cams are miles better along with the 66w charging and in-built unannounced (sh*t google-dialer) call recording capability. I might just pick one up.
STAY FAR AWAY from the disaster of the 888 chips, all hail Qualcomm marketing division and Samsung fabrication.
EDIT: Sorry, seems like the wrong section, bye bye 888 K40 Pro/Mi11X Pro. No 888, even for free, do not need a portable 5nm grill.
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The issue with Vivo is they don't follow the GPL = no source code bro.
Just now, it is launched in India ( mi 11xpro ) and still people haven't receive devices yet, I am sure more people will be joining soon in some months.
If you stuck with Xiaomi well, I have no idea if any custom ROMs will be released. If so they are probably floating around China somewhere...