HTC A9, Plan to upgrade? - Sprint HTC One (M9)

Hey Folks,
I am determining whether I should use my free upgrade to purchase the HTC A9. What are your thoughts on it, is it worth the "upgrade" over the m9?

davidkrocks said:
Hey Folks,
I am determining whether I should use my free upgrade to purchase the HTC A9. What are your thoughts on it, is it worth the "upgrade" over the m9?
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Its been awhile since I looked at the spec's of the A9 so maybe I am wrong here but I thought the A9 was a mid range phone with a lesser chipset, CPU and GPU spec's. How would this be an upgrade?
Wait for the M10. The M9 is plenty of phone to get you by another 6 months and the M10 rumors if at all true, look to be promising on the camera side of things.:good:

Smaller MP camera, less ram depending on market and weaker CPU. Not an upgrade, I don't get the timing and release of the A9. I guess people were so disappointed in the M9 they had to do something. I like my M9, not sure what peoples gripe was so much. iPhone 6 to 6S not that big of improvement. I would have liked to see some more changes, but 20MP was a welcomed change from the M8.

I don't get the A9 either. The camera combination is probably better though with OIS and a F2.0 lens. The drop from 20mp to 13mp is probably a good thing. You need a hell of lens to realize a 20mp sensor. That's basically what the iPhone 6s have now. The M9's F2.2 lens, no OIS and 20mp sensor was a terrible combination.
The A9 concerns me that HTC has not found it's way yet. I hope it just means they are really focusing on the M10.
I can't image the A9 is much cheaper to make.

mswlogo said:
I don't get the A9 either. The camera combination is probably better though with OIS and a F2.0 lens. The drop from 20mp to 13mp is probably a good thing. You need a hell of lens to realize a 20mp sensor. That's basically what the iPhone 6s have now. The M9's F2.2 lens, no OIS and 20mp sensor was a terrible combination.
The A9 concerns me that HTC has not found it's way yet. I hope it just means they are really focusing on the M10.
I can't image the A9 is much cheaper to make.
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:The camera is the only thing that is somewhat better, played with an A9 for a long time at the store and the camera was the only "upgrade" if you will. Keep your m9 till the m10. I did like what htc did with 6.0 and sense, there are more elements of vanilla android in sense now with is a good thing. Hopefully that translates over to the m9 6.0 ota too.

I had the m8 and it broke so they offered me the m9 otherwise I'd still have the m8. The a9 isn't even as good as the m8, so no, I wouldn't get it. It's a downgrade.
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I didn't know it had OIS, so yea that would be an upgrade. That said I don't think the M9 takes terrible pictures the way people act. No it's not the best camera but it's not terrible. They are working on Sense 6, I think they started rolling it out to the M8 international unlocked version already so hopefully carrier M9 version is around the corner.

I'm pretty happy with the m9 camera but I think the m8 did better in low light
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Would you upgrade to an HTC One if it were available to T-Mobile?

Without a doubt, HTC and tmo have released some pretty amazing devices, Sensation, Amaze, Mytouch 4g slide, etc... Now, the One is coming to tmo, would you upgrade to it?
Here's my opinion, apperently, the model Us carriers will get will be dual-core, because apperently LTE is not compatible with quad core CPUs. I think one of the disadvantages of getting the One is that when LTE comes out, we won't be able to use it. But, tmo's 4g is pretty good already. So, would I upgrade? Yes. Hd screen, ICS with sense 4.0, 8mp cam, to take 1080p vids and pics at the same time, pretty good.
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Title is misleading because it is, also yes I will upgrade. I'm very big on photo's and the camera wouldn't be the same on the Amaze, the sensors are outstanding! Smart Flash! Sense 4.0 and way more development because the ones are a world phone! It's faster than the amaze and all benchmark test that i have seen and its running stock! Imagine custom roms! Even thought quadrant itsn't everything! Plus its smaller and thinner. Beats audio integration throughout the whole phone! I know dsp manager is their but i hate opening it all the time. So yes when it comes out I am getting the one s hands down! Also! the one S is dual core so theirs no LTE Problem im pretty sure Tmo will make it so we can use our phones otherwise thats bad marketing. Also a better front camera which will help with video conferencing I can't wait.
One X
Its a very nice phone, definitely some nice minor upgrades over the amaze but to me it isn't worth it. I've decided to stick with the amaze and see what the Galaxy S III has to offer. I want a quad core phone with an Hd screen, I won't settle for something with capacitive buttons(with the amaze as an exception) especially now that android 4.0 supports buttons on the touch screen.
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
TramainM said:
Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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newbieandroid said:
Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
I know the minute i get an HTC One device, and find a happy home for my amaze, google wallet will be available for the amaze 4g.. With some awesome promo. Not that much of an upgrade. Im perfectly happy with my camera. Not worth it. I have a standard camera for that.
I forgot which Android blog, but I just read about a "reliable" rumor that tmo is gonna get the one x without lte capabilities (ie the international quad-core version, cuz the hspa+ is good enough they say) and it's likely going to be a "G" device - like the G1, G2, etc. which means it'll be vanilla ics.
If this is true I know exactly where every single dev is going...and I'm gonna try my hardest to follow, haha.
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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Agreed, not much more to say. Excellent summary, my good man. Haha
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TramainM said:
I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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newbieandroid said:
You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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I put cross fire bridges on the first two and the second two...
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
Snakecharmed said:
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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+1 all the One S has over the amaze is s4 processor (which i believe is better than t3) dual channel ram, and maybe a slightly better camera. (im sure its just software though)
I will not be upgrading. I can't express how good of a phone the amaze is. Its very unique looking (front maybe looks like a sensation but the back is very nice) it has an amazing build quality, it out preforms my daily tasks. Phone/SMS/Video/Pictures and a game here and there. The Amaze is still a great phone and i believe it will still be a good phone even when T3 and S4 chips come out. Once we achieve S-OFF i think there will be more developers for the amaze.
I dont know how you guys are upgrading so fast. I recently got my Amaze, and this phone just came out in oCtober of last year? not even 6 months ago. It is still a pretty expensive phone. I would rather stick with amaze love the camera and recording buttons, the 2mp front facing camera, the amazing 8Mp camera, and how reliable it is, no dropped calls or anything
I've preordered the HTC One X from Expansys. I have an Amaze and love it (I'm typing this post on it)....but I'm still excited to get the quad core version of the One X...
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I read last night that the X one my come to tmobile as the next G series phone and my be stock Ics!!!
Check it out over here at the rumor farm -
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/sma...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
Too bad I really needed a new phone in December. Otherwise this was exactly what I was waiting for! O well...
Good thing about owning the amaze is its new enough to where when the new line rolls out, we can sit back for a bit, watch development, and catch it at a better price down the road
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I'm happy with the screen on the Amaze, SuperLCD? I've had a SGS2 owner admit that mine has nicer color, clarity, etc.
newbieandroid said:
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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The one s has a dual core, the overseas version of the one X has a dualcore. I'm not sure about the S4, i hear its nice but what has me leaning to the quadcore is that i hear it has a small core to help save battery?

Imagesense (Do we really need it?)

For the confusion in this thread THIS IS NOT A COMPLAINT! I am just letting everyone know that we dont need imagesense to have the one series camera features and for HTC saying we cant get sense 4 because of it.
Well some people on some other forms I checked actually think imagesense is a gimmick to buy HTC One phones and I AGREE! Here's why
IMAGESENSE
#1 Superfast Capture. WHICH REZOUND SENSE 4.0 ROMS HAVE.
#2 HTC Video Pic capture. WHICH REZOUND SENSE 4.0 ROMS WILL HAVE (as soon as devs fix it.)
#3 Always Focus. WHICH IF YOU TURN OFF AUTOFOCUS FOR ME AT LEAST STAYS IN FOCUS ALL THE TIME.
#4 Continuous Shooting. WELL IF YOU DOWNLOAD FAST BURST CAMERA OFF THE MARKET YOU DO AND YOU GET 30 SHOTS A SECOND WITH MAX UP TO 102 SHOTS. SO IF THE APP MAKES IT POSSIBLE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT TO WORK ON THE STOCK CAMERA.
#5 Low light. HTC EVEN MENTIONED OUR REZOUND HAS THE LOW LIGHT SENSOR FOR THOSE TYPE OF SHOTS.
#6 HDR. WHICH REZOUND SENSE 4.0 ROMS HAVE AND IT WORKS. Edit DOES NOT EVEN TAKE A SHOT ON LATEST RELEASE. WORKED ON EARLIER RELEASES OF SENSE 4 BUT STILL CAN BE FIXED.
#7 HTC Smart Flash. Ok our Rezound may not have that but ive never took a bad photo with flash so no need.
So do we really need imagesense to get these features? No.
My initial response no longer makes sense since the OP changed the subject of the topic.
Wait, what are we upset about? I'm confused.
krelvinaz said:
but... the Rezound doesn't have Imagesense...
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Thats the whole point of this thread Rezound does not need imagesense to have these features.
This might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621018
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This might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621018
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The Rezound and One X both have the exact same camera module so the only difference is what ever Imagesense has to add. I really want to see side by side comparison to see if there is a difference or not.
The main purpose of Imagesense (aside from marketing) appears to just be offloading the work from the main CPU. I did not find any improved functionality when reading through the feature list.
seems like someone has imagesense envy...
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seems like someone has imagesense envy...
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Or he has Sense 4 envy, and he's a little leery of claims that it only works with ImageSense.
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jefffeely said:
The Rezound and One X both have the exact same camera module so the only difference is what ever Imagesense has to add. I really want to see side by side comparison to see if there is a difference or not.
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Are you sure about this? I thought the apertures were different, with One X having f/2.0 and Rezound being f/2.2. Or are you counting the optics separately from the "camera module"?
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Pretty much HTC is making a big deal about imagesense for their new phones but in reality any recent HTC phone can get those features that imagesense provides if they have sense 4 rom.
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Are you sure about this? I thought the apertures were different, with One X having f/2.0 and Rezound being f/2.2. Or are you counting the optics separately from the "camera module"?
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Sorry I was referring to the CMOS. I honestly kind of forgot about the optics. What? You mean there is a visual/physical side to photography too???
The CMOS is Samsung S5K3H2YX. For reference: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5
I would still like to see a head to head shoot out in a situation where f/2.0 wouldn't be a benefit.
These forums are getting confusing. I don't know if this is a complaint aimed at HTC, Sense, the Rezound or what.
The Rezound was the top dog for a few months. Now the HTC One X is, with the ImageSense or without it. In two months, the One X will be outdated technology because that's just how it works. Just be happy with what you have. (Or pony up the cash for a new device.)
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Basically, yeah it's only been what 6 months since the phone has been out it's the best on verizon and it won't be getting sense 4 because it doesn't support imagesense yet it can do all of the "features" of imagesense. So it's people calling out on bull**** marketing.
Yeah it's been 6 months and a lot of the people here paid top dollar for a product that is capable of running the next version of the companies stuff, it's logical that it should be upgraded but it won't be because of some bs marketing.
RoryHe said:
Basically, yeah it's only been what 6 months since the phone has been out it's the best on verizon and it won't be getting sense 4 because it doesn't support imagesense yet it can do all of the "features" of imagesense. So it's people calling out on bull**** marketing.
Yeah it's been 6 months and a lot of the people here paid top dollar for a product that is capable of running the next version of the companies stuff, it's logical that it should be upgraded but it won't be because of some bs marketing.
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you do realize that part of imagesense is that the camera has its own dedicated processor, right? How will the rezound replicate that? Android has 40 processes running in the background that the camera has to fight with for cpu on our phones.
nrfitchett4 said:
you do realize that part of imagesense is that the camera has its own dedicated processor, right? How will the rezound replicate that? Android has 40 processes running in the background that the camera has to fight with for cpu on our phones.
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Didn't realize it had it's own processor just for camera but sill I managed to replicate everything imagesense can do on rezound.
Ndaoud360 said:
Didn't realize it had it's own processor just for camera but sill I managed to replicate everything imagesense can do on rezound.
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Lol, that's why I asked what we were upset about a page ago. Imagesense is about an extra processor dedicated to the camera. A processor the Rezound simply doesn't have.
forget imagesense, wish we could get the 16mp the titan II has =)
nrfitchett4 said:
you do realize that part of imagesense is that the camera has its own dedicated processor, right? How will the rezound replicate that? Android has 40 processes running in the background that the camera has to fight with for cpu on our phones.
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I retract my statement I was unaware of this.
So our phone doesn't have the hardware power for some more camera features correct?
I thought dual core phones was pretty strong/powerful ... guess not
Rezound is like the second or third phone on verizon with dual core and lte...
Yet it already is lacking hardware power?
Well that's good technology is moving fast i guess
RoryHe said:
I retract my statement I was unaware of this.
So our phone doesn't have the hardware power for some more camera features correct?
I thought dual core phones was pretty strong/powerful ... guess not
Rezound is like the second or third phone on verizon with dual core and lte...
Yet it already is lacking hardware power?
Well that's good technology is moving fast i guess
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its not that our phones couldn't run most of the camera features, its just that with the one series, the camera has its own dedicated cpu so they can push it harder.

[Q] Are You Tempted?

So.....
Are any of you HOX+ owners tempted by the new HTC One?
I'm thinking about it but the lack 64gb is not helping.
So what about you?
I'm getting it in August when my contract is up and currently selling my HOX+ on eBay for a N4. I would say I'm pretty tempted
Edit: well it will depend on the development for the One. If it is locked down and has AOSP issues like this phone then I'm just gonna get the GS4.
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I'm pretty tempted to get it, but I'm also worried about the lack of dev support for the phone. With it being on multiple carriers, I don't see that being too huge of an issue, but my experience with a limited development phone (One X+) has shown me how much I truly need AOSP every now and then. If I see that it gets a lot of development within the first month release, I just may have to go with it. Plus, the dual front speakers are the perfect gimmick for a guy like me.
treygrizzard26 said:
I'm pretty tempted to get it, but I'm also worried about the lack of dev support for the phone. With it being on multiple carriers, I don't see that being too huge of an issue, but my experience with a limited development phone (One X+) has shown me how much I truly need AOSP every now and then. If I see that it gets a lot of development within the first month release, I just may have to go with it. Plus, the dual front speakers are the perfect gimmick for a guy like me.
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Exactly how I feel. The actual phone is good, but the lack of popularity is depressing for a stock Android fan.
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killman2659 said:
Exactly how I feel. The actual phone is good, but the lack of popularity is depressing for a stock Android fan.
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Totally agree. I just ordered my N4 and will sell my HOX+. I was thinking for a second to get the One but then I am again dependent on AT&T's updates and the dev community to get stock android. I gave the Hox+ a chance but I must admit I hate Sense. I don't use any of the features except the clock widget. It doesn't even sync the adressbook to my google account automatically. I like HTC's hardware but I don't like Sense and this won't change with Sense 5.
The ONE has better screen resolution, but only a 4 megapix camera, has 2 gigs ram, but only 26gig user memory, same size screen, it has 2300mah vs our 2100, 4.1.2, which we may get, both have a quad core 1.7. Honestly, I wouldn't buy it, based on lack of user storage and the camera. My one x+ is plenty fast enough with only 1gig ram, and the better screen resolution will be hardly noticeable on a 4.7" screen. I also have a sneaking suspicion HTC will be coming out with a ONE+ in the next few months or so. I was once a huge HTC fan, but as of late, it's seems like they're purposely making their phones worse so they can release "better" ones down the road. HTC knock it the FLIP off! If you wish to stand a chance against Samsung take everything that rocks with the one x+, camera, built in storage etc, and everything that rocks about the ONE, screen resolution, sense 5 (?) put it in one bad [email protected]# phone and call it a day for the next year or so. Stop this trying to make it better, by making the first release worse, crap.
Signed loyal consumer since the days of the G1, who may soon be switching to Samsung...
EDIT: specs based on US phone for carrier AT&T
NoobDude said:
The ONE has better screen resolution, but only a 4 megapix camera, has 2 gigs ram, but only 26gig user memory, same size screen, it has 2300mah vs our 2100, 4.1.2, which we may get, both have a quad core 1.7. Honestly, I wouldn't buy it, based on lack of user storage and the camera. My one x+ is plenty fast enough with only 1gig ram, and the better screen resolution will be hardly noticeable on a 4.7" screen. I also have a sneaking suspicion HTC will be coming out with a ONE+ in the next few months or so. I was once a huge HTC fan, but as of late, it's seems like they're purposely making their phones worse so they can release "better" ones down the road. HTC knock it the FLIP off! If you wish to stand a chance against Samsung take everything that rocks with the one x+, camera, built in storage etc, and everything that rocks about the ONE, screen resolution, sense 5 (?) put it in one bad [email protected]# phone and call it a day for the next year or so. Stop this trying to make it better, by making the first release worse, crap.
Signed loyal consumer since the days of the G1, who may soon be switching to Samsung...
EDIT: specs based on US phone for carrier AT&T
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Everything else aside, boiling down the One's camera to simple "4 megapixel" doesn't really do it justice. They did some neat stuff with the camera sensor instead playing the "more pixels = more better" game. Read up on the One's camera, it's actually pretty cool.

LG G2 Picture and Video thread

I found a couple of G2 photosets on flickr. They look better than the older leaked photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635455147754/with/9708113419/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lgblog_de/sets/72157635373615615/with/9670122433/
Post any other pictures and videos you may find. I know some of you suckers already have the G2 from AT&T. Let me see what you're made of.
Thanks for the links! I am very interested to see how the camera compares to the Note 3. And these pictures look pretty good!
I was definitely going to get the Note 3 until I read it doesn't have OIS, now I am considering the G2... And the price is pretty good also. Only $575 off contract vs $725 for the Note 3 on AT&T.
Yes, those pics look awesome!!
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Thanks for the links! I am very interested to see how the camera compares to the Note 3. And these pictures look pretty good!
I was definitely going to get the Note 3 until I read it doesn't have OIS, now I am considering the G2... And the price is pretty good also. Only $575 off contract vs $725 for the Note 3 on AT&T.
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The Note 3 has OIS...
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The Note 3 has OIS...
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No it doesnt, Note 3 has digital image stabilisation.
Yep, and in my opinion there is HUGE difference between that and hardware OIS...
Makes so many more of my pictures keepers.
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Yep, and in my opinion there is HUGE difference between that and hardware OIS...
Makes so many more of my pictures keepers.
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Well I saw this yesterday
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Camera-shootout-Note-3-vs-Galaxy-S4-vs-G2-vs-iPhone-5-vs-One_id47239
I can't find any definitive proof that the Note 3 doesn't have OIS. The O in OIS stands for optical, so there is no such thing as a digital OIS. That's just simple image stabilization, without the O.
Nvm. Poopoo it doesn't have it. I wasn't planning on getting it anyway. No one bothers to mention it besides dpreview. At least I can rely on them to get the camera specs right.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/7967117746/hands-on-with-samsung-gaalxy-note-iii
So far the LG G2 is my fallback plan. The Xperia Z1 has established itself as having an awful camera, and screen, and is big and heavy for a small 5". The Note 3 is more of the same. I am sick of my cheap ass built Note 2 with squishy cover. No plans to upgrade to the same thing. My only hope is the Oppo N1 comes out to be amazing, and has a killer camera. All other companies have laid out their disappointing hands.
Any real world photos yet? I know a few of you have this beast
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Any real world photos yet? I know a few of you have this beast
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Here's a quick one of my dog.
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Yeah, I'd love to see more actual user pictures also!
I would like a bigger screen than my HTC One, but I really like the camera on it and want to see what the G2 is capable of....
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Yeah, I'd love to see more actual user pictures also!
I would like a bigger screen than my HTC One, but I really like the camera on it and want to see what the G2 is capable of....
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There are already a bunch of shootouts and comparisons out there. The HTC camera has only 4MP so it looks blurry no matter what. It couldn't compare to 8MP cameras, much less the newer 13MP ones right now. HTC also has very bad processing with weird colors and heavy sharpening and noise removal. It was one of the best low light shooters on Android, but the G2 can compete with OIS, and has much better resolution.
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There are already a bunch of shootouts and comparisons out there. The HTC camera has only 4MP so it looks blurry no matter what. It couldn't compare to 8MP cameras, much less the newer 13MP ones right now. HTC also has very bad processing with weird colors and heavy sharpening and noise removal. It was one of the best low light shooters on Android, but the G2 can compete with OIS, and has much better resolution.
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Most of the pictures I've seen are from reviewers, not average users and that's what I'd like to see.
Just because the HTC One only has 4mp doesn't automatically mean blurry... I'm a crap photographer which I'll readily admit and I've got some great shots on the HTC One by just pointing and clicking. Here are a couple examples... If the G2 can do better, I'll be really happy with it! I'm tempted to head to an AT&T store this morning.
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Most of the pictures I've seen are from reviewers, not average users and that's what I'd like to see.
Just because the HTC One only has 4mp doesn't automatically mean blurry... I'm a crap photographer which I'll readily admit and I've got some great shots on the HTC One by just pointing and clicking. Here are a couple examples... If the G2 can do better, I'll be really happy with it! I'm tempted to head to an AT&T store this morning.
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You are right in a way. I have HTC One too but pictures become blur as you start to zoom-in because it is only 4MP. Whereas 13MP on the other hand has 3 times more detail in the picture. And to make the point clear, in a common user perspective G2 can blow HTC one out of water (in camera).
A quick pic I took in my office yesterday. Auto settings, didn't change anything.
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Some pics from yesterday, not really trying just pointing and shooting. Also i had changed my lcd density without setting the xposed framework to put the camera back at 480 so auto focus was confused the entire time.
http://imgur.com/a/CosU6
Those look really good for just point and shoot! Thanks!
One more from breakfast today, its still overcast outside. (Coast)
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Here's a quick one of my dog.
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Damn dude he is a cutey..is that a dooberman mix? Maybe a rotty?
Quick pic of our tall skinny sunflower
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Sony Xperia Z Ultra/GPE vs ZTE Nubia X6-What do you think?

As an avid user of the XZU, I have been frustrated with the lack of a flash on he XZU and today I read the news that the ZTE Nubia X6 is finally available. Whilst I love using my XZU with the GPe ROM, I find it really annoying to see the camera ruin my pictures in low light. On the other hand, the ZTE Nubia X6 appears to be everything I ever wanted from a phone/XZU. It has the following key features;
-6.44" Full HD Display
-Snapdragon 801 MSM8974AB Quad Core 2.3GHz and 2 Other variants available as Options
-2-3GB RAM Depending on the model selected -3 models available
-32-128GB Internal Memory
-MicroSD Slot [Still trying to confirm-I really hope it is correct]
-13Mp Front and 13Mp Rear Camera with DUAL FLASH
-Dual Stereo Dolby Optimised Speakers
-DUAL SIM with Dual Standby
-HDMI Port
-4250mAh Battery and Removable Battery Cover (I guess NO waterproofing)
-----Check out full specs here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_x6-6236.php
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-----Images and more specs here:
http://www.ainol-novo.com/nubia-x6-...reen-android-smart-phone-ram-2gb-nfc-gps.html
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-----Comparison between XZU and Nubia X6 can be found here:
http://www.phonebunch.com/compare-phones/sony_xperia_z_ultra-957-vs-zte_nubia_x6-1438
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-----YouTube Video here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVo9fAXbqqQ
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The more I read about this phone , the more I get excited. So what do you think? Is it time we shop around or wait and see what Sony has in store with the XZU 2 in September or ditch all and perhaps look at Samsung Galaxy Note 4?
Also, could one of our XDA-Dev forum users confirm for sure if the LTE bands used are Europe compatible or not? I am getting conflicting information so any confirmation from Chinese speaking users would be even more welcome. Thanks and enjoy the conversation!
The specs looks okay, but I won't think about buying anything until I see the ZU2 (if it exists), and if it gets released this summer, I'm not sure if I want to get it. The Ultra is still a top speced device, so a tiny boost in GHz and RAM won't impress me at all this time.
- Last year: We went from S600 to S800 in flagships. Huge boost. 1080p also got widespread in flagships.
- This year: We've gone from S800 to S805. Minimal boost. 1080p is still the norm. An extra gig of RAM if you're lucky.
- Next year: We'll go from S805 to S810. Huge boost. 64bit. Adreno 430. We'll most likely see more of the QHD (2560x1440) displays.
that certainly looks like a very nice looking phone...
china-only, at this point it seems.... however the question is, how easy will dev support be with this? custom roms, etc..
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The specs looks okay, but I won't think about buying anything until I see the ZU2 (if it exists), and if it gets released this summer, I'm not sure if I want to get it. The Ultra is still a top speced device, so a tiny boost in GHz and RAM won't impress me at all this time.
- Last year: We went from S600 to S800 in flagships. Huge boost. 1080p also got widespread in flagships.
- This year: We've gone from S800 to S805. Minimal boost. 1080p is still the norm. An extra gig of RAM if you're lucky.
- Next year: We'll go from S805 to S810. Huge boost. 64bit. Adreno 430. We'll most likely see more of the QHD (2560x1440) displays.
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+1 we all better wait
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The only thing that I see is a huge noticeable difference is the camera. Probably won't feel the difference in ram and CPU. I agree with others hold out.
I would not replace the Ultra because of the camera. A better option is to get a Sony DSC-QX10 or QX100 of the simple reason that they deliver VERY decent pictures. I am very happy with my QX10 and it got me completely "over" the lusting for a device with a "better" camera.
As it is today, I would not replace the Ultra with another device since the most interesting development will be the Snapdragon 810 - I don't think we will see it before Ultra 3 (I would guess the Ultra 2 will have the 805 considering the timing).
A QX10 and a new 128 GB microSDXC card and you are all set.:victory:
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I would not replace the Ultra because of the camera. A better option is to get a Sony DSC-QX10 or QX100 of the simple reason that they deliver VERY decent pictures. I am very happy with my QX10 and it got me completely "over" the lusting for a device with a "better" camera.
As it is today, I would not replace the Ultra with another device since the most interesting development will be the Snapdragon 810 - I don't think we will see it before Ultra 3 (I would guess the Ultra 2 will have the 805 considering the timing).
A QX10 and a new 128 GB microSDXC card and you are all set.:victory:
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And let's not forget that if you get the QX10 now, you can also use it with a different phone down the road, so you'll always have a great camera.
E90 Commie said:
I would not replace the Ultra because of the camera. A better option is to get a Sony DSC-QX10 or QX100 of the simple reason that they deliver VERY decent pictures. I am very happy with my QX10 and it got me completely "over" the lusting for a device with a "better" camera.
As it is today, I would not replace the Ultra with another device since the most interesting development will be the Snapdragon 810 - I don't think we will see it before Ultra 3 (I would guess the Ultra 2 will have the 805 considering the timing).
A QX10 and a new 128 GB microSDXC card and you are all set.:victory:
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The QX-100 is an amazing product.
More info here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513999
No LTE 800. That's a deal breaker for me as it's a common used band in Sweden.
I had a good look at the QX devices as the poor camera on the Z Ultra is really my only complaint with it however I don't see the devices as alternatives to a decent onboard camera. The problem for me is that they're nowhere near portable enough to function in that role, I prefer to take the RX100 which isn't much larger in practical terms (it still needs a separate pocket as would the QX devices) but the RX100 has the advantage of being much quicker to use. The reason I like having the camera on the phone even with much better quality alternatives is that I pretty much always have the phone in my pocket making its camera handy to catch unexpected moments when I don't have a proper camera on me.
I have my doubts about the ZTE though and still hoping Sony will produce a similar device to the Ultra but with a usable camera.
The Sony supports more 3G and 4G bands. I don't think the ZTE, even its LTE variant, will support LTE from AT&T or T-Mobile. The Sony C6806 and C6806 GPe will work on every band that T-Mobile currently uses.
Also, won't come with Google whatsoever...

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