Hey there,
I received my 46mm Moto 360 2nd gen on the weekend. I am acutally very pleased with battery so far but since I am not very keen on using the fitness apps, I want to diable them. Moreover, from what I've read, they are the most power hungry apps on the watch.
The first time i tried disabling Moto Body, it still showed active on the settings screen and i wasn't sure if it worked. I then noticed constant notifications of the app and also the heart rate sensor doing its thing. So just now I tried to disable the app again in its settings and this time it also says disabled.
Is this enough to deactivate all the heart beat measuring and step counting stuff?
With Google Fit, I did the same and it seems to have worked the first time.
Does anyone know of any other things to turn off (already shut down ambient mode and WIFI).
Thanks for your help.
steinerhippo said:
Hey there,
I received my 46mm Moto 360 2nd gen on the weekend. I am acutally very pleased with battery so far but since I am not very keen on using the fitness apps, I want to diable them. Moreover, from what I've read, they are the most power hungry apps on the watch.
The first time i tried disabling Moto Body, it still showed active on the settings screen and i wasn't sure if it worked. I then noticed constant notifications of the app and also the heart rate sensor doing its thing. So just now I tried to disable the app again in its settings and this time it also says disabled.
Is this enough to deactivate all the heart beat measuring and step counting stuff?
With Google Fit, I did the same and it seems to have worked the first time.
Does anyone know of any other things to turn off (already shut down ambient mode and WIFI).
Thanks for your help.
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Done what you did, all works fine here, that's being : Wifi, Ambiant mode, Moto Body, Google Fit = all disabled, watch's battery life is greatly increased doing so
No Moto Body "issues" that you're experiencing :/
Didn't get a notification from Moto Body today, so it seems it is turned off for now
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Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
Thanks
Update to Nike+
Jeffruby said:
Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
Thanks
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I was wondering what you noticed that gave you the impression the app had received an update? I have not noticed any audio cues while running. The biggest issue I have with Nike+ is that the GPS doesn't seem to start tracking until a half mile into each run. This happens regardless of how long I stand around in clear view of the sky waiting for a fix on my location.
I am curious how the Nike+ app is managed. It doesn't show up in the gear manager app on my phone, and there doesn't appear to be any means of managing the app (checking for updates etc.) from the Gear S itself. Any thoughts or feedback would be appreciated. This is such a niche device, I can't see myself using it for anything other than running and I'm starting to think that I should have returned it and waited for another 6 models to come out. Hope Samsung can fix the GPS problems with a firmware update.
There was an update on the phone end, which I thought would communicate with the gear (in update info it mentioned gear s update).
When you run, do you have your gear network set to "always on" and Bluetooth off prior to run.? If gear network on auto, won't start independent logging (ie will use phone gps) for 1-2 minutes plus the delay to lock on
Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read. I am unsure if it was pace, but I think one of the parameters was time/mile - during my run this was WAY OFF (unless I misread it) - after run my pace listed was accurate... So have to recheck this.
I did not have any issues with app starting tracking 5 minutes later.
Battery on 40 minute run went down 30%. I had to be reachable by text so I had gear network always on.... Wondering if I can use Nike app with just gps on, and gear net off (for half and full marathons - otherwise the battery won't last!).
The one thing that is necessary (i think) is to disconnect the gear from the phone before run, or else the gear will use your phone gps to show no movement until it transfers over to watch (which takes a few minutes).
Will try health app. Wishing for audible alerts or clearer and accurate pace stats.
Nike app disappointing also battery life
Jeffruby said:
Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read.
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I just got this watch yesterday. Tried running with it today. Didn't do anything special, not even check which background app's were running. Used the Nike app. Very disappointing... I really need to see the pace but the only thing I could read on the display were the large distance numerals, no alerts. I also did some playing around making and receiving voice calls, and having someone at home with my phone use the AT&T Mobile Locate to find where I was. Other than the Nike app. all worked great, except my 8 mile, 1:15:25 run took the battery from near 100% to 18%. I hope I can improve this. My main reason for getting this was to combine the function of a GPS watch with a phone for marathons and half marathons so I could call/find people after the race (especially at big events like next Boston). I need to get at least 5 hours battery since I usually finish 3:40 to 3:50.
I did have the HR recording on (didn't see a way to cancel it in Nike), this may have added battery drain. Also the pedometer function was evidently running since the display came up a few times, as noted above I didn't cancel running app's. I looked at Power Saver mode, but it appears the GPS and 3G may not function in that mode.
I'm going to try S-Health because it has a pace display, and I don't need Facebook cheers (really?) or music. Hopefully it is less of a battery hog.
It was cold out today, but not extreme (30F, 21F windchill) which may have had an effect.
I have 14 days (12 left) to return with re-stocking fee to ATT, so will kick the tires hard. Any advice will be appreciated. I guess I could always wear my Garmin FR220 on one arm and this on the other, and just use it as a phone/after-race navigator/contactor. Still better tha carrying my Note 3 in an armband (they actually don't make one stock to fit it), or risk bouncing it around in a sweaty fanny pack.
Bottom line, my opinion of the Nike app is "not good".
Try it with gear net off but gps on. After race can turn gear net on and make the call. Yeah I was in Baltimore this year and walked around freezing looking for others for too long.
Also agree. The s health may prove better for pace (most important) can swipe to side to see it. Wish it had audio alerts but I can live with looking down at wrist here and there.
another update:ran with shealth today....again 30+mins and again 20% battery gone...not good!
had gear net OFF and gps ON (naturally)- I am now going to try
a) removing motion that turns on watch when i swing hand up (although I like this to quick glance while running and every time i did it the screen did go from off to on...so not thinking this will help)- remote possibility screen is on for most of run (dont think so).
b) need to figure out how to turn off the unwanted HR sensor...so useless and i think is killing battery!!!
c) turn brightness down lower.
the pace on shealth was just as useless as nike app as its INSTANT while gps is pulsatile....still no SPLIT paces or audio paces...thats what i want
I went for 3 hour walk/run with GPS and gear network both on and the battery was at 30% when I got home. Not bad!
Guys,
Lot of talk regarding battery life/ standalone/ accuracy of gear S apps for running.
Used both Nike and S Health- to me both were standalone.
Few bullets
1) some stated that even with GPS on and locked that s health still uses pedometer for distance? (is this true?)
2) I'm still confused if I need gear network AND/OR mobile network on/off - does this affect battery life- if I leave OFF all networks...will my run sync once I turn mobile network or Bt with phone on?
3) any way to get splits read to you (cannot believe this is missing)
4) I don't think this device will get through a marathon unfortunately
Yikes! Just did the car test (run shealth with hand out car) and I can confirm that it doesn't use gps for anything other than map. Feel duped
Relies on pedometer I think
Sorry for my blast posts. It is possible that it only records speeds in running range? I shook hands and didn't increase speed. Also noticed a bike option. Perhaps wrong about duped. Lol
Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
The Nike+ app is tracking the distance correctly with GPS though. If you have everything turned on (GPS, GSM, Bluetooth), then you would get probably about 4-5h of battery time. My goal is to use it on the next marathon and be able to listen on music for the last 60min of the race but i guess I need to run on 3:30 or something to make this possible
BUT, unfortunally the Nike+ app are missing the most important thing and that's the avg pace for the total run. It just show current pace and I don't really like that since it's changs so often so it's hard to see what speed you are runnig at.
So, yeah, I really hope for an update on either of these running apps ASAP!
HTC, thanks.! What a shame re s health app. How do you think it does distance for biking though if uses pedometer for distance?
The Nike app is close to being good..... I can't see the red on black, while your running you can't read scrolling info and of course the avg pace of run is the gold
Also in Nike app you have to turn on GPS manually, not from the app, if you want to track distance accurately. If you don't it uses accelerometer. With GPS on in general battery life is not good. My longest run was 30K in 2:45 had 18% battery left. Also there is one more strange thing about S health - calorie count maxes out at 1000
OK , so I did another test today - used shealth on bike mode. Stuck arm out car window with GPS on. Kept arm still. It tracked distance completely accurately. This tells me that the s health must indeed use GPS accurately. I think the jog portion only measures speeds in running or walking rates as it did not pass my car test.
The Nike app is a bummer as you can't verify GPS lock before it starts. Also the reasons mentioned prior.
The s health app is easier to read but doesn't show you 1 mile splits on the phone app. This is unacceptable.
Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
Yeah, i have been logging miles with the Nike ap too. Its not perfect, but it works for me.
I have 79 miles all logged on my Gear S nike ap this year.
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Not to mention Nike app wastes battery with hr but doesn't record it.
The S Health app records continuous HR during your run. I'm not sure how the Nike+ app works to record HR data. Is it continuously tracking/recording HR data? Or does it do it intermittently when you activate the display and wait for the information to scroll (on the bottom of the screen) to HR?
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Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
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In the Nike+ app there's a small round indicator in the upper righthand corner that turns green as soon as there is a GPS lock. Always on mode is great, but it increases battery drain, so I just do the wrist flick.
Jerome, I think he is referring to indicator if Nike gps locked in before you hit start run. No runner wants the first 0.1 mile not to be recorded.
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Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Hello,
I guess I have to answer both Yes and No on that question
I've tried to reinstall, run without data, without simcard, yeah, tons of different test and it's always way off (map is accurate but the distance it shows is totally off). Another poster in this topic also had the same issue but then he told me to test and choose 'cycle' as training mode instead of running, and, when I did that, then S-Health tracks the distance accurate. So, with other words the application have support for tracking distance in that training mode but of some reason it seem to choose to track the distance by counting steps if I choose running/walking as training mode. So, i'm not sure, maybe your device of some reason have this working on all traning modes. I hope so, and, that someone can explain for me hoooooooooooooooooooow to change this
My gear s tracks distance very accurately when I run gps on. However with GPS off using pedometer it overestimated my distance by approx 0.1 per mile. So gps must work. I did discover as mentioned above, that at high speeds need cycle on.
Not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but my Gear S is the US ATT variety.
In my case, I am fairly certain that no maps are used for measuring distance. Maybe I lucked out.
And when I said my distance gets tracked earlier, I meant the tracks you see at the very bottom of the log in S Health, that correctly display where I took turns, looped back, etc. Without data on, there is no actual map behind them, with data on, there usually is (I had a few flukes before.) The pedometer would not know about turns taken, though.
BTW, I had issues getting a GPS lock for a while until I realized that my phone is messed up. Once I started using the Gear S in stand-alone mode, all was good.
Just bought the second gen moto 360. Whenever i turn off bluetooth from my phone it doesnt immediately show on my watch that phome has been disconnected. I have also installed the find your phone app which tells you that phone is out of range when it loses bluetooth connectivity. The notification or vibration for disconnect usually come to the watch after a minute or two. Is there any problem with the watch?
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Just bought the second gen moto 360. Whenever i turn off bluetooth from my phone it doesnt immediately show on my watch that phome has been disconnected. I have also installed the find your phone app which tells you that phone is out of range when it loses bluetooth connectivity. The notification or vibration for disconnect usually come to the watch after a minute or two. Is there any problem with the watch?
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Nah, no problem with the watch, it dose the same on mine.
There is due to this some kind of "power saving" feature either on the watch itself or in Android Wear app, that's why it doesn't show the disconnected sign on the watch immediatly nor the vibration alert sent by whatever apps similar to "Find your phone" app (I've tested quite a few)
What I found is that, if you turn on your watch's screen from either ambiant mode or non-ambiant mode (black screen) to normal mode, the disconnected sign would show up as well as the disconnected vibration alert within seconds, otherwise, it could take minutes...
It is kinda annoying if we wanna use those apps to alert us whenever we've left our phone behind or it's being stolen since it does not make any vibrations UNLESS we manually wake the watch face up
This kind of alert should really have been built into the Android Wear app's settings in the first place along with the vibration strength/duration settings (few 3rd party apps can do that pretty well), because a lot of us often find the watch's vibration is weak (well, actually, not that weak but too short), we know the purpose is to preserve the battery's life, but I bet a lot of us would prefer to not miss notifications rather than having a few extra hours of battery life...
Hello All. I've been searching this and other forums for an answer for several hours now, and haven't found one yet. Any help is appreciated. Just got a Gear Fit, and have it linked to my Galaxy S5. S health, Gear Fit manager, and watch are all updated to latest versions.
1) Heart Rate Monitor. I used the HRM on my S5 while working out on occasion, but found it useless due to the need to turn it on to get a one time reading. Part of the reason I got the GF was to have the Heartrate monitor. Unfortunately, it operates like S-health does on the S5. I have to turn it on to get a reading. Is there a 3rd party app that I can use to consistently monitor my Heart Rate while working out (so I can just glance at my watch and see it). Even better, one that notifies you if your HR goes higher or lower than desired?
2) Sleep tracker - is there an App that will autodetect sleep with this watch? I constantly forget to turn the sleep mode off, and end up with much longer sleep segments than I actually have (i.e. I take the watch off when showering and getting ready in AM, don't put it on till I leave for work, and end up with 45min-1hr more of 'sleep' tracked.
Thanks much!
For part 1 of your question - There is an exercise mode on the samsung gear fit which constantly monitors your heart beat.
Not sure about the second part though I have the same problem - I wish it did like the phone does and identifies when I am awake based on my movement also it would be good if S-Health allowed me to modify sleep time after recording - not sure if it can now.
Anyone using smarthome devices that are using the geolocation of the phone to be triggered?
I have Phillips hue and Netatmo welcome and cannot see me when coming home except if my screen is opened and also open google maps and update manual my location.
Tried giving access to these apps not to sleep or use battery optimization but still nothing.
Anyone else?
I use a Tado system and I have noticed on the odd occasion it doesn't know I'm home with this phone, though setting the app to be exempt from throttling of data and exempt from power management seems to almost have resolved the issue.
Could you please share how to do that of throttling of data?
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I use a Tado system and I have noticed on the odd occasion it doesn't know I'm home with this phone, though setting the app to be exempt from throttling of data and exempt from power management seems to almost have resolved the issue.
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Has this been resolved by anyone?
I too have the Tado and it only updates my location when I open Maps and physically click on the blue dot to zoom in on my location or e.g. start navigating.
I've tried all the obvious like disable maps and tado battery optimisation, allow background data and what have you. On the Mate 10 pro this worked flawlessly btw so this has to be m20p related...
Together with the not too good curved screen (letters/graphics falling off), green tint, poor face and fingerprint recognition this is for me a reason to maybe get rid of this phone...
So you have already gone to:-
Battery settings, more battery settings, turn on "stay connected when device sleeps"
I use TADO with Mate20x AL00 and that fixed it for me.
Also make sure you have toggled the app power settings then it should be ok.
Hi, yes, 'stay connected when sleeps' is on.
What app power settings toggle do you mean, under special access, battery optimization?
In the meantime I've put Automate to work (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate&hl=en) and made this little flow that seems to be a good work around. Starting Tado in the last block is there now only to check if it works, nothing else.
Update: this is a workflow that works really well. Let me know if you want more info.
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The flow