i used to follow zenfone 2 in the early stage when people used to talk about boot-loader unlock and crappy camera and battery. since then lot has been done as far as i see. now i am considering to buy this phone.
1. does this phone has the same bad battery life(standby+during use) like just after release in the custom roms like CM12.1 ,CM13 reseruction remix, Blisspop as i wouldn't use the stock rom most probably,(can anyone please post battery usage with hours till full charge, screen brightness % and screen on time)
2. what about camera? does it still take bad picture with stock/custom rom ? can anyone please post some sample photo?
thanks in advance
1.battery has improved but will depend on tour usage. stand by time is pretty good.
2.camera has improved quite a bit, check the photo thread to see samples.
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CM 13 I am getting 5 hour sot
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1. battery life has improved a lot. And if want to use a custom kernel, it improves a lot.
2. camera got a lot better, though only in stock ROM (or stock based ones). Using cm right now, but the camera sucks so bad
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CM 13 I am getting 5 hour sot
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what is total up time and brightness level? can you please post gsm battery screenshot?
Battery is ok, though nothing special. You can usually get a day out of it with about 4 hours SOT, and SOT can be pushed up to 6 or even 7 hours if you use in certain ways (not using LTE, as the cellular modem is a battery hog on the ZF2). I think this battery life is similar to a lot of flagship and midrange phones, and it has quickcharging too, which helps.
Given the price of the phone, the camera is pretty good if you use the stock firmware. On CM or other CM-based custom ROM, however, it becomes very limited - functional, but only really able to shoot snaps of social media posting grade. If the camera is a priority then I'd recommend sticking on stock or going for a different device.
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Battery is ok, though nothing special. You can usually get a day out of it with about 4 hours SOT, and SOT can be pushed up to 6 or even 7 hours if you use in certain ways (not using LTE, as the cellular modem is a battery hog on the ZF2). I think this battery life is similar to a lot of flagship and midrange phones, and it has quickcharging too, which helps.
Given the price of the phone, the camera is pretty good if you use the stock firmware. On CM or other CM-based custom ROM, however, it becomes very limited - functional, but only really able to shoot snaps of social media posting grade. If the camera is a priority then I'd recommend sticking on stock or going for a different device.
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thanks for the reply. i dont like the zenui, so will use custom rom for sure. if you are using any custom rom would you please post some sample camera shot so that i can decided whether the camera will be useful to me.
arka karlos said:
thanks for the reply. i dont like the zenui, so will use custom rom for sure. if you are using any custom rom would you please post some sample camera shot so that i can decided whether the camera will be useful to me.
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you can install the stock camera on any cm rom, so that's no longer an issue
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luisoman2000 said:
you can install the stock camera on any cm rom, so that's no longer an issue
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Stock camera app will install on cm but some functions don't work and the output is not as good as on stock IMHO
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Stock camera app will install on cm but some functions don't work and the output is not as good as on stock IMHO
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Dunno, took some pics and they look fine to me. haven't tried all functions though but auto and video seem to work fine so far. need to try more settings.
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arka karlos said:
thanks for the reply. i dont like the zenui, so will use custom rom for sure. if you are using any custom rom would you please post some sample camera shot so that i can decided whether the camera will be useful to me.
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you can install the stock camera on any cm rom, so that's no longer an issue
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Stock camera app will install on cm but some functions don't work and the output is not as good as on stock IMHO
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Dunno, took some pics and they look fine to me. haven't tried all functions though but auto and video seem to work fine so far. need to try more settings.
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Yea i got the stock camera pixel master on bliss pop. The camera sucks. And that sucks because i love bliss pop so much!
Camera is pretty good on stock rom but others its a no go
1. I don't think there's much difference in battery life through the updates, but I never cared about it since battery life was more than enough for me from the beginning. Based on my observation:
- Time to full charge: I guess around 2.30 hours from 0% to 100%. I only because I'm using the multiple-charging method which is to try to keep the phone between 50% and 90%.
- Screen on time: >4 hours at 50% auto bright ness, or more if you lower the brightness level. I don't think it's a good duration for many people but it serves me well enough. Also notice that I'm on stock with a LOT of configuration, I have been using Android for years so I know what is needed to do to achieve the most screen on time. Of course on custom roms you can push it a lot farther, but I haven't rooted my phone yet so I don't know how much more you can get. Basically, I think this is a bad thing because casual users are not supposed to be experienced like me to use a phone. The phone should be good enough for everyone with basic knowledge of Android.
- Camera: it's really bad at taking in low light, a lot a lot of noise and the darker it is, the worse it gets until it looks completely crappy. On the contrary, I think it's very good in day light, the color and details are kept naturally. It's acceptable for me.
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Seems that every ROM I look at in here has a bunch of issues. I'm coming over from the OG Evo, and know nothing about photon's development- although I get the gist its an underappreciated device. Just looking for something to make it worth rooting the photon, which is a great phone imo.
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have you tried CM9? sure theres a few bugs but its my daily. otherwise i hear that miui is turning out pretty good but i havnt flashed it myself for a few builds. you could always try cm7 or rokko also.
CM7 and CM9 are the best. Use both of them, CM7 is more stable and all works, but CM9 is very smooths and awesome!
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Seems that every ROM I look at in here has a bunch of issues. I'm coming over from the OG Evo, and know nothing about photon's development- although I get the gist its an underappreciated device. Just looking for something to make it worth rooting the photon, which is a great phone imo.
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As quick as it is to root the Photon I would do it just for the ability to use root apps. Then, try some of the custom locked roms available before you unlock. CM9 is a great rom but still a beta and has issues such as camera, signal, battery, etc. which is to be expected.
I still prefer the stock rom just because of full functionality, battery life, and signal quality but there are many good custom roms based off stock builds (which I have not tried) that might work well for you.
Running CM7 here and am happy with that as my daily driver. Not brave enough to try CM9 but that's just my personal preference/bias. Joker's non CM9 roms & Lokifish Marz's roms are also good choices.
Three great roms:
-CM7 (KANG)
-ROCKO 3.0 (NOT 3.5)
-Imperium Initiative 1.04
As for which is better... It's a tossup. CM7 last longer, but ROCKO feels more fluid and user friendly. CM7 is more technical...
CM9 is very impressive but it is a beta.
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Three great roms:
-CM7 (KANG)
-ROCKO 3.0 (NOT 3.5)
-Imperium Initiative 1.04
As for which is better... It's a tossup. CM7 last longer, but ROCKO feels more fluid and user friendly. CM7 is more technical...
CM9 is very impressive but it is a beta.
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Imperium is not a beginners ROM by any stretch.
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Imperium is not a beginners ROM by any stretch.
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Not designed by a beginner but perfectly usable by a beginner =D
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Not designed by a beginner but perfectly usable by a beginner =D
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I agree.
I finally took the dive into unlocking my Photon's bootloader, (having never done it before on a phone) and I had almost zero issues rooting/unlocking/flashing the ROM.
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As quick as it is to root the Photon I would do it just for the ability to use root apps. Then, try some of the custom locked roms available before you unlock. CM9 is a great rom but still a beta and has issues such as camera, signal, battery, etc. which is to be expected.
I still prefer the stock rom just because of full functionality, battery life, and signal quality but there are many good custom roms based off stock builds (which I have not tried) that might work well for you.
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I'd like to quickly point out that Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9 beta is honestly pretty stable. The camera, MMS, signal, and battery life is very much exceeding my expectations, considering this is a rom that is labelled as a beta.
I'd also like to state my opinions towards the OP's original question: In order of stability, here is what I would recommend.
1-Stock. (obviously).
2-HomeBase
3-CyanogenMod 7.2
4-RockoRom 3.0 (3.5 is good as well, but based on experience I recommend 3.0)
5-Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9, link is in the beginning of my post.
6-Imperium Initiative
Finally, 7-[email protected]/[email protected]
The rom I use the most is Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9. It's a very good rom.
Quickly-- One last thing. If you DO flash a rom, please please please PLEASE do not complain about the battery life until you do these steps:
~Let your battery drain to 0%
~Charge your battery to 100%
~Wipe battery stats via the advanced menu in a custom recovery(recommended), or an application
~Drain battery to 0%, then charge to 100%.
Then you can complain about the battery life... if it's bad, that is. Lol.
MoPho on, my friend!
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I'd like to quickly point out that Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9 beta is honestly pretty stable. The camera, MMS, signal, and battery life is very much exceeding my expectations, considering this is a rom that is labelled as a beta.
I'd also like to state my opinions towards the OP's original question: In order of stability, here is what I would recommend.
1-Stock. (obviously).
2-HomeBase
3-CyanogenMod 7.2
4-RockoRom 3.0 (3.5 is good as well, but based on experience I recommend 3.0)
5-Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9, link is in the beginning of my post.
6-Imperium Initiative
Finally, 7-[email protected]/[email protected]
The rom I use the most is Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9. It's a very good rom.
Quickly-- One last thing. If you DO flash a rom, please please please PLEASE do not complain about the battery life until you do these steps:
~Let your battery drain to 0%
~Charge your battery to 100%
~Wipe battery stats via the advanced menu in a custom recovery(recommended), or an application
~Drain battery to 0%, then charge to 100%.
Then you can complain about the battery life... if it's bad, that is. Lol.
MoPho on, my friend!
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I was comparing CM9 to stock and there is no way CM9 has better battery than stock. Not even close. In my experience with running CM roms on multiple devices they all seem to drain the battery more I would assume due to the kernels used. I know this doesn't really have anything to do with stability but relates to the overall feel of the OP question I think which is why I mentioned it.
With that said roms are going to run different for each user especially with a beta build.
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I was comparing CM9 to stock and there is no way CM9 has better battery than stock. Not even close. In my experience with running CM roms on multiple devices they all seem to drain the battery more I would assume due to the kernels used. I know this doesn't really have anything to do with stability but relates to the overall feel of the OP question I think which is why I mentioned it.
With that said roms are going to run different for each user especially with a beta build.
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I don't quite remember saying that the battery life was better than stock... But surely sir, you must be doing something wrong. I have 2 photons running cm9, one is activated and one is not, the one that is activated has the minimum at 216 mhz and the max at 1300 mhz, and it's usual cpu is going at 800mhz-ish. the one that is not activated is clocked to the max at 1300mhz constantly, min is 1300 and max is obviously 1300. they both run roughly the same amount of time before dying, usually 7/8hrs. with stock, not rooted, my batter lasts anywhere from 8-9hrs being heavily used.
I never said that the battery life was better than stock on cm9, i said it was EXCEEDING MY EXPECTATIONS FOR A BETA. Sir, you honestly should double check the post of which you're criticizing before you make such an accusation.
And of course roms are going to be different for everybody, depending on how they use it and what they do with it. I've only tweaked jokersax's build to fix the mms issue, as his fix doesn't help. my fix helps ME, but considering the fact that jokersax's fix works for plenty of others, that obviously points out the fact that roms run differently for everybody.
One last thing; who's cm9 build are you talking about? because you mentioned bugs, and jokersax's barely has any. the battery life issue has a solution that can be found at the end of my first post. please, read it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24827129
1080p camera ROM - Need dl link
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I will say it.... jokers cm9 roms battery life kick the crap out of stock. It does have some pretty annoying bugs tho.... like everytime you rotate the screen while using the browser it force closes, or the camera that doesn't take great pictures...mainly with the flash. But other than that it does work pretty well.
I did just switch to cm7 and while everything on it seems to work great, the battery life is no where near as good as cm9.
Btw both I have Max CPU at 1000.
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DualSportDad said:
I will say it.... jokers cm9 roms battery life kick the crap out of stock. It does have some pretty annoying bugs tho.... like everytime you rotate the screen while using the browser it force closes, or the camera that doesn't take great pictures...mainly with the flash. But other than that it does work pretty well.
I did just switch to cm7 and while everything on it seems to work great, the battery life is no where near as good as cm9.
Btw both I have Max CPU at 1000.
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Really? For me, the camera's damnnear perfect. huh. But yeah, the rotation isn't great, but I never use rotation. It pisses me off, lol. The only thing atm that makes me mad is that google play won't let me download anything because I'm not on an official android rom. Anyone else have this problem?
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Really? For me, the camera's damnnear perfect. huh. But yeah, the rotation isn't great, but I never use rotation. It pisses me off, lol. The only thing atm that makes me mad is that google play won't let me download anything because I'm not on an official android rom. Anyone else have this problem?
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Go to settings, apps, stop Google play, clear its data, restart phone.
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Go to settings, apps, stop Google play, clear its data, restart phone.
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Yeh, tried that lmao. And i tried clearing market updater, tried downloading older version, i tried alot of things i just gave up haha.
But I'll post about this on a different thread, we gotta stay on topic. Thanks for trying to help me!
I flashed back last night and tried taking pictures with dark light.... I found if I use the button on the screen instead of the button on the side of the phone it takes much better pictures. All in all I can't wait till this Rome gets the bugs worked out.... but to be on topic it is a pretty good daily rom.
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oDepani andSportDad;24897902]I flashed back last night and tried taking pictures with dark light.... I found if I use the button on the screen instead of the button on the side of the phone it takes much better pictures. All in all I can't wait till this Rome gets the bugs worked out.... but to be on topic it is a pretty good daily rom.
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True. Very true. I've found that the vibrate goes on/ off though. Doesn't bother me, but it ciuld bother others
Zwomg Im Bad said:
I don't quite remember saying that the battery life was better than stock... But surely sir, you must be doing something wrong. I have 2 photons running cm9, one is activated and one is not, the one that is activated has the minimum at 216 mhz and the max at 1300 mhz, and it's usual cpu is going at 800mhz-ish. the one that is not activated is clocked to the max at 1300mhz constantly, min is 1300 and max is obviously 1300. they both run roughly the same amount of time before dying, usually 7/8hrs. with stock, not rooted, my batter lasts anywhere from 8-9hrs being heavily used.
I never said that the battery life was better than stock on cm9, i said it was EXCEEDING MY EXPECTATIONS FOR A BETA. Sir, you honestly should double check the post of which you're criticizing before you make such an accusation.
And of course roms are going to be different for everybody, depending on how they use it and what they do with it. I've only tweaked jokersax's build to fix the mms issue, as his fix doesn't help. my fix helps ME, but considering the fact that jokersax's fix works for plenty of others, that obviously points out the fact that roms run differently for everybody.
One last thing; who's cm9 build are you talking about? because you mentioned bugs, and jokersax's barely has any. the battery life issue has a solution that can be found at the end of my first post. please, read it.
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I will only comment on a few items because we could go about this all day with really no positive outcome and the thread will be hijacked.
First, I am not doing anything wrong. This is not my first rodeo. Yes, I know about the battery "conditioning" steps at the end of your post. This is part of flashing 101. With what I am running on my phone it just wasn't the life I needed it to be.
With that said I agree with you on CM9 exceeding expectations. Great rom but OP was looking for a stable rom and beta versions have bugs.
We can agree to disagree and put it to rest?
I've been reading up a lot about custom ROMs, and more often than not CM9 always gets a mention. I'm tempted to flash it but just wanting to know is it really worth it? Does it have major improvements on battery and performance, and what are the main things that make it so much better than the stock ROM?
Also is it easy to revert back to the stock? I've already got my phone rooted with CF-Root, is that the clockworkmod recovery I've read about, and if so can I just go ahead with making a backup and flashing with CM9?
Any help/info would be appreciated.
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I've been reading up a lot about custom ROMs, and more often than not CM9 always gets a mention. I'm tempted to flash it but just wanting to know is it really worth it? Does it have major improvements on battery and performance, and what are the main things that make it so much better than the stock ROM?
Also is it easy to revert back to the stock? I've already got my phone rooted with CF-Root, is that the clockworkmod recovery I've read about, and if so can I just go ahead with making a backup and flashing with CM9?
Any help/info would be appreciated.
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Its users choice read what does not work first .
CF root is not Clockwork Recovery but it probably has CWM recovery incorporated .
CWM manager in apps and boot to recovery should show CWM options .
jje
CM9 is experimental and still has several flaws and issues.
I'd not recommend it for everyday usage if you're not a developer or like living on the edge.
Plus, 3G battery life is terrible since CM9 has no Fast Dormancy. Within ~5 hours the battery was always dead on me.
Samsung-based Roms make it more than 24 hours in contrast.
It will of course get better when the ROM is properly fixed and all features integrated. It always does =)
Also is it easy to revert back to the stock?
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d4fseeker said:
CM9 is experimental and still has several flaws and issues.
I'd not recommend it for everyday usage if you're not a developer or like living on the edge.
Plus, 3G battery life is terrible since CM9 has no Fast Dormancy. Within ~5 hours the battery was always dead on me.
Samsung-based Roms make it more than 24 hours in contrast.
It will of course get better when the ROM is properly fixed and all features integrated. It always does =)
Flash Stock firmware through Odin, then factoryreset the phone in CWM. You're back to stock
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So that must be the drain issue everyone is talking about. I use 2G only on T-Mobile and I get awesome battery life haha. Good to know I must be the only one
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a lot of the battery issues are due to not resetting battery stats. You fully charge the phone, clear the stats, then charge it again I think? Search there are instructions.
I've got CM9 on an Atrix which isn't even a supported device and it's totally daily usable. The only things I lose which are only b'cause it's an atrix are:
Fingerprint reader
Webtop
video camera
Check out what works and doesn't with CM9 for your phone and decide. I like it a lot, it's TOTALLY stripped though, like no google aps (you can install them as a package)... There are lots of weird intricacies to it but it's cool as hell IMO
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a lot of the battery issues are due to not resetting battery stats. You fully charge the phone, clear the stats, then charge it again I think? Search there are instructions.
I've got CM9 on an Atrix which isn't even a supported device and it's totally daily usable. The only things I lose which are only b'cause it's an atrix are:
Fingerprint reader
Webtop
video camera
Check out what works and doesn't with CM9 for your phone and decide. I like it a lot, it's TOTALLY stripped though, like no google aps (you can install them as a package)... There are lots of weird intricacies to it but it's cool as hell IMO
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Resetting/erasing battery stats does nothing.
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I've got CM9 on an Atrix
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At least the build for Atrix is not pre-alpha EXPERIMENTAL =)
It takes some time for the developers to get it right on the S3. I've never said CM9 itself had issues, it's the combination of CM9+ i9300 that needs some serious work.
I have or manage a couple of CM9-flashed devices (from Galaxy S1 over Galaxy S2 to Motorola Xoom) so I know how awesome the Rom is =)
Cheers for all the replys.
Are there any other custom ROMs worth looking at? I've heard CM9 is the most popular but if it's not quite usable daily yet I might give something else a try.
CM9 is currently very usable. I have no problems whatsoever. It has many advantages to stock ROM like no low free memory problem, no launcher redraws and no lags. The only real disadvantage is that the camera app sucks compared to stock.
It must like your phone better.
Kept turning off the modem for no reason, sometimes restart was necessary to connect.
It also has no fd as already described, so many people will notice a huge drain in 3g.
Btw you can easily get rid of memory issues by freezing/removin, all the apps you do not need but which are always running.
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CM9 is currently very usable. I have no problems whatsoever. It has many advantages to stock ROM like no low free memory problem, no launcher redraws and no lags. The only real disadvantage is that the camera app sucks compared to stock.
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I agree 100pct.
I don't even notice it's rom'd till I want to take a video or use webtop :-(
The tablet switching roms work great though. I played with jokers and LOVED it but couldn't get gapps installed for some reason.
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New to the galaxy note, any suggestions for roms with good battery life?
blackstar☆ and pawdan for me opinion you try for 2 or 3 day and see who like you
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I've tried every rom available here ...for the I717 ..
And "For Me"..
The best battery life comes from the following builds ..
Saurom ..GB 2.3.6 .....and ..
Flappjaxxx UCLF6 ICS Build #5.
But please remember, that I prefer zeam launcher, and use only a handful of apps and never Widgets.
You simply have to try the builds for yourself, and determine the best balance between performance and features.
But more importantly, the 717 runs best without overclock..IMHO ...and basically using a stock kernel.
Optimization of the build for the device is very important in maintaining a smooth and functional file structure....
That being said, I stick with slightly modified stock builds for the note, and I always disable the stock Touchwiz launcher, as I can confirm it's a battery hog.
But invariably, I feel that Samsung did an excellent job when optimizing GB, while ICS is larger and not as refined...and JB official will correct the ICS bugs.
We can only hope that Samsung releases the JB we see on the note 2....as it truly is an exceptional build.
Good luck in your flashing and optimization of the builds you choose ...g
BlackStar X did the trick for me. I also turned sync off and manually sync my email account. Turning data off also helps otherwise when screen is off battery keeps draining.
I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
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I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
ThE UnknowN
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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The battery life is no different than any other DXLJ2 rom.
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All roms are exactly the same on battery life... That is until you've tested it on your device.
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Its how you use you phone and what you use on your phone that determines the battery life. From a development standpoint, there are minor changes that we can implement to improve battery duration. The difference will be negligible. You might notice an in increase in your battery, but again it won't be much.
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Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
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Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
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Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
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I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
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You didn't offend me. Lmao. I probably know what Rom you are referring too. And I doubt its that it's better. I run all the roms and test them all. Pretty much the same all across the board. In the end it's the user who matters.So if you found a rom you belive is better for you battery wise, then kudos. Im glad you found a rom that works best for you.
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Right on.
Back to basics shall we.
mike208 said:
Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
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It also depends if you're using LTE. I should qualified my assertion with "just playing video using the hardware decoder".
I went I the play store and bought juice defender ultimate. Makes a big difference, well worth the money in my opinion.
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Here's a little story for ya.
I started out using Ginger stock, the interface felt sluggish coming from an iphone4 (wow I haven't typed "iphone" in such a long time, I feel weird!)
After mucho research, I went for the Eclipse rom. Ultra smooth, gotta love it. Like every other rom (so I've heard), I still get random reboot, but very few, about once a week and sometimes don't get it at all. Battery life is crazily good, loses about 4% overnight with "interactive governor". Music player always stop responding on first open. But I can live with that, just kill app and reopen and it's good to go. Overall, using the Eclipse rom has been a very nice experience.
Then I tried Novena (ICS rom I believe), the interface wasn't as smooth as JB, the battery also drains fast for some reason (yes I have turned off every option that could potentially drain the battery), so I moved on...
Then I tried JellyBeer, smooth just like Eclipse but with more options. However, the battery also drains pretty fast, why? I really don't know, played around for hours but still couldn't figure it out.
At last, I came back to Eclipse, everything is almost just how I want the phone to be.
In retrospect, I hit the jackpot on the first try. But it is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers.
You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
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You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
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Be a man, some works and some just don't. Your mileage may vary.
To quote myself:
"It is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers."
Hello I've been running TW roms on my Note 2 for a long time now, and I love them but I came from the Galaxy Nexus and I am missing 4.2.2 and the whole AOSP feel. Things that I had a question on are:
1. When I flash a 4.2.2 rom will I be able to flash back to a 4.1.2 TW rom? or are there things that I should do to avoid any issues?
2. What kind of battery life can I expect? I know that no one can say for sure but just wondering a roundabout estimate. On TW I can get a good 24hours of battery life and around 3 hours of screen time, is it anywhere close to this?
3. Is there anything I can do to get SPen to work? I don't use it alot but I would like to use it still if possible.
That is all I think, thank you for your help in advance.
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Hello I've been running TW roms on my Note 2 for a long time now, and I love them but I came from the Galaxy Nexus and I am missing 4.2.2 and the whole AOSP feel. Things that I had a question on are:
1. When I flash a 4.2.2 rom will I be able to flash back to a 4.1.2 TW rom? or are there things that I should do to avoid any issues?
2. What kind of battery life can I expect? I know that no one can say for sure but just wondering a roundabout estimate. On TW I can get a good 24hours of battery life and around 3 hours of screen time, is it anywhere close to this?
3. Is there anything I can do to get SPen to work? I don't use it alot but I would like to use it still if possible.
That is all I think, thank you for your help in advance.
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1. You can flash between AOSP and TW ROMs no problem, you just need to wipe data each time. You can also just make a nandroid of your current stock TW ROM and simply restore that if you want to go back.
2. I havent had my Note 2 very long, but I immediately put AOSP on it and based on my weeklong experience you will have no problem whatsoever getting the same usages out of the battery on AOSP, it might even end up beating that.
3. IDK about using the S-pen. I dont use it myself so I never bothered looking into it.
Hope this helps.
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Hello I've been running TW roms on my Note 2 for a long time now, and I love them but I came from the Galaxy Nexus and I am missing 4.2.2 and the whole AOSP feel. Things that I had a question on are:
1. When I flash a 4.2.2 rom will I be able to flash back to a 4.1.2 TW rom? or are there things that I should do to avoid any issues?
2. What kind of battery life can I expect? I know that no one can say for sure but just wondering a roundabout estimate. On TW I can get a good 24hours of battery life and around 3 hours of screen time, is it anywhere close to this?
3. Is there anything I can do to get SPen to work? I don't use it alot but I would like to use it still if possible.
That is all I think, thank you for your help in advance.
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I was in the same boat as you. Ive flashed almost every AOSP rom here and I have never had one for over 24 hours. They all just dont have the "umph" where the TW roms all are chock full loaded of nice features that I thought I may never use. Ive always gone back to tw.
If you want, try Tweaked rom with the AOSP theme, VERY close to AOSP looks but woth a lot of TW functionality and customizations
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I'm probably over-stepping my boundaries as an AOKP member...
But hey, I'll vouch for us :silly:.
Battery life exceeds your current use-case in my experience.
Yes, you can easily flash back to touchwiz.
We support SPen. You can even assign left/right/up/down swipe gestures and long-press, and double-click actions to custom actions.
I.E. Left-swipe (while holding the button) can open an app, simulate a home/back/recents press...etc.
Thank you all for your input! I decided to try it out for myself and I flashed Illusion ROM and the boast 2 days have been awesome with it nice and smooth and battery life seems about the same as it was with TW. I got almost 19 hours of battery life and 5 hours of screen time.
My only gripes about AOSP is that the volume is very low and I can barely hear people when calling them but hopefully I can find a mod or something to fix that. My signal seems to be worse too which is weird since it seems to be the same radios as the TW ROMs..well as far as I can tell.
Thanks again!
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Thank you all for your input! I decided to try it out for myself and I flashed Illusion ROM and the boast 2 days have been awesome with it nice and smooth and battery life seems about the same as it was with TW. I got almost 19 hours of battery life and 5 hours of screen time.
My only gripes about AOSP is that the volume is very low and I can barely hear people when calling them but hopefully I can find a mod or something to fix that. My signal seems to be worse too which is weird since it seems to be the same radios as the TW ROMs..well as far as I can tell.
Thanks again!
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There are free apps to fix sound for now
And the signal bars are just tricking you into thinning you get more service on TW check the dBm under about phone- status
I'd call good service anything less the 100
barrackOBAMA said:
There are free apps to fix sound for now
And the signal bars are just tricking you into thinning you get more service on TW check the dBm under about phone- status
I'd call good service anything less the 100
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Oh I wasn't aware of that, it just seemed lower becase my signal will drop all the way to 1X sometimes and I never noticed it with TW but maybe what you are saying is right and the signal bars weren't showing whats really going on. Do you know any of the apps to fix sound off hand? I've looked at a few but the ones I've found says that they don't work on 4.2.2 just 4.1.x. Thank you!
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Oh I wasn't aware of that, it just seemed lower becase my signal will drop all the way to 1X sometimes and I never noticed it with TW but maybe what you are saying is right and the signal bars weren't showing whats really going on. Do you know any of the apps to fix sound off hand? I've looked at a few but the ones I've found says that they don't work on 4.2.2 just 4.1.x. Thank you!
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To fix the sound the easiest thing is to flash Plasma kernel and install Stweaks.
As for the service issues there may be some depending on your ROM and what is being done with the RIL on CM. Ultimately it isn't much to worry about unless you're missing calls and texts.
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To fix the sound the easiest thing is to flash Plasma kernel and install Stweaks.
As for the service issues there may be some depending on your ROM and what is being done with the RIL on CM. Ultimately it isn't much to worry about unless you're missing calls and texts.
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I might try plasma and see how that is..hopefully battery life is still good with it. The service is starting to bother me just because in stream a lot of music from Google Music and songs have been cutting out on me lately which never happened to me on a TW ROM...my phone has been getting really hot too..
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I might try plasma and see how that is..hopefully battery life is still good with it. The service is starting to bother me just because in stream a lot of music from Google Music and songs have been cutting out on me lately which never happened to me on a TW ROM...my phone has been getting really hot too..
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There's also a STweaks guide in the forums here that can help you adjust voltages, etc...
Please, somebody open my eyes to choose correct ROM for battery life.
I only care BATTERY LIFE.
CloudyFlex , Optimus Pro , coudy G3, pardus, or else .......... which one?
ROM choice is less important than kernel choice. Dorimanx, sovaca, and Render build great kernels.
im using now CloudyFlex 2.6 but i don't know which kernel in it. What is your suggest for CloudyFlex 2.6 ? Thank you for your replies.
Either dori or sovaca will be fine. Render is only for AOSP. Just be sure to flash the right version for your phone and nandroid backup first
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Please, somebody open my eyes to choose correct ROM for battery life.
I only care BATTERY LIFE.
CloudyFlex , Optimus Pro , coudy G3, pardus, or else .......... which one?
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make sure you also use:
- autostarts: to prevent apps that update/check through internet all the time and wake up your phone all the time to see whther you got a new post. You would be surprised by how many triggers some apps will start and run services in the background.
- greenify: to put apps to sleep while your phone is off.
- check the settings for some of your apps: many apps want to know your location or anything else every 2 minutes and that doesn't let your phone sleep properly.
I use cloudyflex 2.6 btw. My battery does not lose a single % when I am not actively using my phone.
I run Plain-Andy with Render in ART, absolutely zero "battery saving" apps or settings, I easily get 1-2 days without a charge, right now its sitting at 51% 1d5h30m with 2h30m screen on.
I got the same battery life out of Mahdi and G3 port.
Battery saving apps are a gimmick and just more apps to run in the background.
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I run Plain-Andy with Render in ART, absolutely zero "battery saving" apps or settings, I easily get 1-2 days without a charge, right now its sitting at 51% 1d5h30m with 2h30m screen on.
I got the same battery life out of Mahdi and G3 port.
Battery saving apps are a gimmick and just more apps to run in the background.
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They are not only "battery saving apps", I _hate_ it when apps come on when I don't specifically tell them to... I don't trust them.
I haven't tried without autostarts/greenify, I might get same battery results.
Then again, if you tried with them you might get even better battery
I do have a flatline battery usage when I am not actively using the phone (or running major backups in the background).
i dont like and i dont trust any app related "Battery perf.-Cleaner-Ram-etc" . But I dont know why, i just like Greenify App.
What do you think of Greenify? is it necessary or does it works?
Dont root. Ever since I rooted my battery got worse and worse. Even after returning to nonrooted stock. I regret rooting my G2 because stock worked great. Best battery life = dont root.
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Dont root. Ever since I rooted my battery got worse and worse. Even after returning to nonrooted stock. I regret rooting my G2 because stock worked great. Best battery life = dont root.
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May be right, my be not... it's what you think and i respect your experience.
Let's my thoughts: first af all, i use 10c stock rom first and then 20d and then 20c. These are good roms i know but i think that these are only for normal users. Everything in system is normal level with these roms. I dont like limited use.
I want to change notification bar, navigation bar, and some colors... I ve bought a android phone because i want to interfere in systtem when i want.
my test results:
10c-20d-20c = slide photo view(nonstop), screen time 4h35m and 5h40m
In the same way, other custom roms : 6h10m and 7h35m (optimus pro-cloudyflex-g3)
wifi = on
brightness = %100
remain battery level= %8
NOTE: onlly use single Rom, dont any other app such as cleaner,battery saver etc.
If i use lots of apk with custom roms, my battery is getting weak.
You want a rom with the best battery life? Stock! Stock rom should be your answer :silly:
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Dont root. Ever since I rooted my battery got worse and worse. Even after returning to nonrooted stock. I regret rooting my G2 because stock worked great. Best battery life = dont root.
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That's just an illusion. Rooting won't affect your battery life, giving root permission to apps would. Root permission isn't something trivial, just keep that in mind.
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Dont root. Ever since I rooted my battery got worse and worse. Even after returning to nonrooted stock. I regret rooting my G2 because stock worked great. Best battery life = dont root.
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heithered said:
You want a rom with the best battery life? Stock! Stock rom should be your answer :silly:
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That's just an illusion. Rooting won't affect your battery life, giving root permission to apps would. Root permission isn't something trivial, just keep that in mind.
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which stock rom is the best, about battery life. whts your think? personally.
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which stock rom is the best, about battery life. whts your think? personally.
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Stock rom, bildiğin LGnin kendi romu. Daha ondan daha iyi pil ömrü sunan rom görmedim. Eğer uzun zamandır stock kullanmıyorsan mutlaka dene, 3-5 tam sarj sonra pil ömrüne bak ne demek istediğimi anlarsın
Stock rom, the one comes with the phone. It has the best battery life, from the ones i tried at least. If you are not using stock rom for a while you should give it a chance.
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which stock rom is the best, about battery life. whts your think? personally.
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They meant the LG bone-stock firmware image w/o any modification.
im fed up with searching rom, i just want to be have better battery life
taking a pictures (10-15), a short video (2-3m), Data open all day, 30-35m calling, messenger and whatsapp all day, this is my routine DAY . I dont want to see %10 battery level on my phone when i come home in evenings.
vitaalamode said:
im fed up with searching rom, i just want to be have better battery life
taking a pictures (10-15), a short video (2-3m), Data open all day, 30-35m calling, messenger and whatsapp all day, this is my routine DAY . I dont want to see %10 battery level on my phone when i come home in evenings.
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Buy a new phone.
vPro97 said:
Buy a new phone.
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:good: reasonable solution, anyway, i lovemy LG G2 :good:
thanks for your helps
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:good: reasonable solution, anyway, i lovemy LG G2 :good:
thanks for your helps
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Stock is definitely the best as far as I tried. But would recommend giving Cloudyg3 a shot, I'm getting great battery with the out of the box kernel.
The whole battery life quest is always a bit hard to measure because everyone expects something different.
I've tried every ROM there is. I'm not exaggerating. Stock will always give you the best battery life without needing battery saving apps. But if you then use battery saving apps on stock it gets even better.
I find the biggest savings are through apps that control how your phone uses data while the screen is off and control the CPU while the screen is off.
But if you don't want to tweak anything or use apps to do so, then a nice clean stock ROM is what you want. Because each dev has different goals you may just have to try each one until you find one that meets YOUR requirements.
For nice clean and thoughtfully tweaked stock ROMs I'd recommend Lightning V4 or worship ROM.
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im fed up with searching rom, i just want to be have better battery life
taking a pictures (10-15), a short video (2-3m), Data open all day, 30-35m calling, messenger and whatsapp all day, this is my routine DAY . I dont want to see %10 battery level on my phone when i come home in evenings.
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My device isn't great on battery by any mean but with "taking a pictures (10-15), a short video (2-3m), Data open all day, 30-35m calling, messenger and whatsapp all day", by 7pm when I come home from work, it would still have 70% - 80%