Struggling - OnePlus 2 General

We all have known that sales of the oneplus 2 have had poor but oneplus are trying to stimulate the market. First but getting rid of the ridiculous invite system, now with a discount price
https://oneplus.net/uk/oneplus-2
Too little too late? Imagine what they could have done with a slightly tweaked hardware and an aggressive initial sale price. I fear these reductions are going to have little impact on sales as they have lost their momentum.

Could equally be a smart business move now they are further established?
Personally I think there will always be a place in the mobile phone market for OnePlus even if there devices aren't "perfect".
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Ofc there will always be place in market ... For example i swapped my S6 duos for an OPT .. Reason is the developing community

Op2 is a good phone, the hold up is the fp and LAF drivers holding back the developer community from going to town like on the OPO. If they hurry up and release Mm and use standard api for LAF and fp like they say this could still turn into a great phone.
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Agree, little too late with all the unsupport for custom roms, lag of official rom, fp lag and unresponsive for some
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I'm out - quitting on OnePlus #NeverSettle

I was an early adopter of the OnePlus One and strongly supported the company.
I was patient and waited to get my OnePlus Two invite, but I was not pleased that OnePlus was repeating the invite system. Still, I stuck with it.
This past Sunday, OnePlus sent me an invite (a holiday weekend)! But they sent it to my old email address (the address that I was using at the time I got the OnePlus One). I had changed my contact email on the OnePlus site a few weeks ago.
I didn't discover this invite until AFTER the 24 hour period had passed, so my invite was invalid.
I was bummed but nicely contacted customer service and the rep was very nice and helpful, and filled out out a service ticket. I was assured I'd hear back within 24-48 hours, but I heard nothing.
After the two days passed, I contacted customer service again, and another rep helped me by saying they will respond to my issue within 24 hours. Again, I heard nothing.
I've had it. I just ordered my Moto X Pure Edition. I went to Amazon, selected my item, and completed the purchase like a regular person.
It's so refreshing to just order a phone and expect to get it in a few days. It's not funny anymore.
#NeverSettle. I took OnePlus's advice and didn't settle.
Bummed about it, but psyched to get my Moto X.
Sucks. Got my OPT and loving it!
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Just buy one on swappa.com. There are a **** ton so you will only pay barely over Retail.
Yeah I got an invite on holiday weekend I just bought right away. I got the phone on Thursday is a nice upgrade but you shouldn't feel to bad is not a crazy upgrade it feels like a oneplus oneS lol.
I have currently my Oneplus Two send in for replacement, but since the Two isn't as fascinating as I thought and the Moto X Style is in my opinion better at all than the two, I will sell the Two when it arrives at home.
yellowsn0w said:
Sucks. Got my OPT and loving it!
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What's your user experience been like? I received mine, buy have not unboxed it.
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alex1301 said:
I have currently my Oneplus Two send in for replacement, but since the Two isn't as fascinating as I thought and the Moto X Style is in my opinion better at all than the two, I will sell the Two when it arrives at home.
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Lol and what's so fascinating about the moto x style?
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Lol and what's so fascinating about the moto x style?
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Better screen, SD-Card slot, better support, less heat and in my case a better quality. Enough arguments?
EDIT: Two more: Better firmware and even after it launched only some days before better community support. The Two only has a weird chinese TWRP where nobody knows who actually made it.
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Better screen, SD-Card slot, better support, less heat and in my case a better quality. Enough arguments?
EDIT: Two more: Better firmware and even after it launched only some days before better community support. The Two only has a weird chinese TWRP where nobody knows who actually made it.
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Not weird, it's in English and it's from a chinese oneplus board. Working as intended.
SpiritBreak3r said:
Not weird, it's in English and it's from a chinese oneplus board. Working as intended.
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And that's my problem. Most of the ROM's are from the chinese forum, so I don't know what is working or not. With the Style I have the chance that more English speaking people will work on it.
alex1301 said:
Better screen, SD-Card slot, better support, less heat and in my case a better quality. Enough arguments?
EDIT: Two more: Better firmware and even after it launched only some days before better community support. The Two only has a weird chinese TWRP where nobody knows who actually made it.
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Better screen? No, it has a higher resolution display and people are reporting horrible battery life like 2h SOT bad because of that screen so think again. SD-Card is not very necessary when you have 64gb of storage. Better support? Moto was one of the slowest OEMs to update their phones with last year's Moto X that was one of the biggest complaints. Less heat? OPT doesn't get hot? Ive had it for 2 weeks and not once it did it get even remotely hot, all the reviewers said the exact same thing. Better firmware? Refer to what I said above about updates and their software is less feature packed than Oxygen, even though Oxygen is still rough around the edges. And better community support? you got to be ****ting me on this. OnePlus phones always had the largest community/developer support compared to any phones. They are up there with Nexus devices.
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Better screen? No, it has a higher resolution display and people are reporting horrible battery life like 2h SOT bad because of that screen so think again. SD-Card is not very necessary when you have 64gb of storage. Better support? Moto was one of the slowest OEMs to update their phones with last year's Moto X that was one of the biggest complaints. Less heat? OPT doesn't get hot? Ive had it for 2 weeks and not once it did it get even remotely hot, all the reviewers said the exact same thing. Better firmware? Refer to what I said above about updates and their software is less feature packed than Oxygen, even though Oxygen is still rough around the edges. And better community support? you got to be ****ting me on this. OnePlus phones always had the largest community/developer support compared to any phones. They are up there with Nexus devices.
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The SOT thing is bull****. 4hrs are minimum. It is also reported in the Style forums here. With support I mean the customer support. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Mine got during playing really hot at the metal edges.
For the software I can only refer to the semi working fingerprint scanner and homebutton. The only one thing I like about Oxygen is the dark theme, that's it.
The community/dev support was big when the Oneplus One came out. But now, it's ver slow. Nobody can get a good ROM with all functions working, because Oneplus doesn't release the drivers for the fingerprint scanner. Yes, they don't have to, but what does the releaxed attitude towards unlocking the bootloader help when you only have barely working ROM's?
I don't want to start a rough discussion. Everybody can decide for themeselves which phone they like more. Oneplus changed my attitude towards them when they took nearly three weeks to send me a correct RMA ticket! I will test the Style. I don't really need the fingerprint scanner, but regarding Android Pay, NFC would be more interesting than the fingerprint scanner.
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The SOT thing is bull****. 4hrs are minimum. It is also reported in the Style forums here. With support I mean the customer support. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Mine got during playing really hot at the metal edges.
For the software I can only refer to the semi working fingerprint scanner and homebutton. The only one thing I like about Oxygen is the dark theme, that's it.
The community/dev support was big when the Oneplus One came out. But now, it's ver slow. Nobody can get a good ROM with all functions working, because Oneplus doesn't release the drivers for the fingerprint scanner. Yes, they don't have to, but what does the releaxed attitude towards unlocking the bootloader help when you only have barely working ROM's?
I don't want to start a rough discussion. Everybody can decide for themeselves which phone they like more. Oneplus changed my attitude towards them when they took nearly three weeks to send me a correct RMA ticket! I will test the Style. I don't really need the fingerprint scanner, but regarding Android Pay, NFC would be more interesting than the fingerprint scanner.
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The Style had me interested until I saw the battery life results. While some people are able to get 4 hours SOT, I've seen a ton of reports of people struggling to get much better than 3 hours, which is what I was expecting. Development for the OP2 will pick up once more developers are able to get their hands on one. Mine got warm when I restored my apps and once in awhile when I play games but it's not unbearable. I'll take a fingerprint reader over NFC too. I'd be more interested in LGs next Nexus device over the Style, but that's just me!
But seriously, for those people with OPT that have somewhat unresponsive fingerprint scanner/home button. I didn't have that issue, and 1 of my friend didn't have that issue. But to me 64bit processor are still better(minus the downclocking), if you are still stay at SD80x it's still okay. Since they already predicted next year SD820 will be released. Still it is up to you
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And that's my problem. Most of the ROM's are from the chinese forum, so I don't know what is working or not. With the Style I have the chance that more English speaking people will work on it.
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I was referring to TWRP.
PS: If you haven't looked at XDA's portal about motorola's post, you better do. Motorola is a lenovo company and lenovo is a Chinese company period

Never Settle... Oh Really

I think the only way to get Opposition to change their tune is to complain....
Lets see no shared source code for the phone. They somehow let the success go to their heads, and think that it was them who made the OnePlus a success and not the independent community.
Based on their response in the past, the only way they change course is if they see a lot of people complaining.
The funniest thing is that the box says "Created together with our fans <3".
But seriously, we know that you are frustrated about this. But don't post it around. It already happends a lot.
Psyscope said:
I think the only way to get Opposition to change their tune is to complain....
Lets see no shared source code for the phone. They somehow let the success go to their heads, and think that it was them who made the OnePlus a success and not the independent community.
Based on their response in the past, the only way they change course is if they see a lot of people complaining.
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I totally disagree. If you don't like the companies behavior or their product you can just buy an iPhone to think different or go for a nice Nokia 5110. Still connecting people those days.
IMHO I think they do a pretty great job for such a small company. The phone has great build quality, superb ingredients, regular software updates and the OS is stable as hell. Just look at that super high end S6 Edge for example. Great piece of metal and glas but laggy as hell compared to our OP2.
For me that's the best smartphone I have had so far and I already shared some invites to some friends and neighbors. And no one so far complained to me about a missing open source git tree.
I agree with you in that way that it would be nice to have CM12 with fingerprint and laser autofocus. But who can blame a company for protecting their work? No big Android manufacturer released their source code as far as I know.
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I totally disagree. If you don't like the companies behavior or their product you can just buy an iPhone to think different or go for a nice Nokia 5110. Still connecting people those days.
IMHO I think they do a pretty great job for such a small company. The phone has great build quality, superb ingredients, regular software updates and the OS is stable as hell. Just look at that super high end S6 Edge for example. Great piece of metal and glas but laggy as hell compared to our OP2.
For me that's the best smartphone I have had so far and I already shared some invites to some friends and neighbors. And no one so far complained to me about a missing open source git tree.
I agree with you in that way that it would be nice to have CM12 with fingerprint and laser autofocus. But who can blame a company for protecting their work? No big Android manufacturer released their source code as far as I know.
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LOL
Seems that those who are happy with stock OS haven't ever tried any custom ROM based on CM
That's how the things should be done!
OP2 stock OS (oxygenOS) is crap, hate it.
When I tap on "Phone" app icon why it takes an app about 1 second to launch? Snapdragon 810, 4 gigs of RAM???
Really? What the heck? My 10 year old Nokia 3230 opens phone app with the same speed.
There are a lot of others examples how this ****ty oxygenOS spoil experience with beautiful hardware.
On AICP, for example, "Phone" app launches instantly.
I really miss FP sometimes, hope with CM13 finger print sensor will become functional.
So, phone itself is a superb piece of hardware, but oxygenOS is a piece of ...
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OP2 stock OS (oxygenOS) is crap, hate it.
When I tap on "Phone" app icon why it takes an app about 1 second to launch? Snapdragon 810, 4 gigs of RAM???
Really? What the heck?
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It's the oneplus launcher. Try another launcher like Google, nova or even CM launcher. Oxygen OS is basically stock with some customizations which are quite nice and which have nothing to do with performance. You can tweak it pretty much the same way you'd tweak the stock aosp. You can root it, install xposed, replace kernel. You can achieve a very nice result with Oxygen OS.
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alexeiz said:
It's the oneplus launcher. Try another launcher like Google, nova or even CM launcher. Oxygen OS is basically stock with some customizations which are quite nice and which have nothing to do with performance. You can tweak it pretty much the same way you'd tweak the stock aosp. You can root it, install xposed, replace kernel. You can achieve a very nice result with Oxygen OS.
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but what about a phone that works well out of the box
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but what about a phone that works well out of the box
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People who buy OnePlus 2 almost always want to customize it. That's the reason OPT is so easily unlockable and rootable. So for them the out of the box state should not be very important. That doesn't mean that OPT doesn't work out of the box. It works very well within my expectations. I think most of the problems with OPT are exaggerated.
But if you don't want to customize anything, but just enjoy the out of the box experience, OPT is not for you. You'd want a Samsung/LG/Sony phone which is locked down, so that its poor users can't escape the out of the box experience.
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alexeiz said:
People who buy OnePlus 2 almost always want to customize it. That's the reason OPT is so easily unlockable and rootable. So for them the out of the box state should not be very important. That doesn't mean that OPT doesn't work out of the box. It works very well within my expectations. I think most of the problems with OPT are exaggerated.
But if you don't want to customize anything, but just enjoy the out of the box experience, OPT is not for you. You'd want a Samsung/LG/Sony phone which is locked down, so that its poor users can't escape the out of the box experience.
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The thing is, it is not even that amzing for Customizing. Not yet at least. Not until OnePlus or Marshmallow comes along and fixes the LAF and FPS.
Psyscope said:
I think the only way to get Opposition to change their tune is to complain....
Lets see no shared source code for the phone. They somehow let the success go to their heads, and think that it was them who made the OnePlus a success and not the independent community.
Based on their response in the past, the only way they change course is if they see a lot of people complaining.
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See it's simple, OnePlus released enough source code that we could build such a stable CM12
The part where Oneplus can't release code is Autofocus and Fingerprint
Just wait for Marshmallow, since it will use Marshmallow API, we can directly use compiled OOS driver on Cm13 for fingerprint
The only thing I am worried about is LaF
Official Cm 13 is already in work
Check cyanogenmod's Github to see the progress
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Till then use hydrogen os 1.2 its better than oxygen os
alexeiz said:
People who buy OnePlus 2 almost always want to customize it. That's the reason OPT is so easily unlockable and rootable. So for them the out of the box state should not be very important. That doesn't mean that OPT doesn't work out of the box. It works very well within my expectations. I think most of the problems with OPT are exaggerated.
But if you don't want to customize anything, but just enjoy the out of the box experience, OPT is not for you. You'd want a Samsung/LG/Sony phone which is locked down, so that its poor users can't escape the out of the box experience.
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It seems to me there is no pleasing these people so no point in trying to use any form of logic on them. If it was that simple you could just use points like.
1. The 1+ company is brand new and offering amazing phones at unbeatable values.
2. No phone ever rolls off of the line perfect and bug free and usually takes at least 1 year to fix its major flaws.
3. Lollipop is the worst os Google has ever shoved out since the days of froyo.
4. Kernel sources were released super quickly unlike a lot of its competitors.
5. The fact you now got a fast desktop computer that can fit into your pocket is nothing more than simply amazing. When I was a kid in the early 90's just before the internet I had a pulsar computer which had a 16 mhz processor and 64 mb of ram and only had a 5" floppy disk drive. It came with windows 3.1 and only had 32 bit resolution and that was less than 25 years ago.
6. Be patient you cry babies. Didn't realize that a second of your time was the difference between life and death. Not only is the 1+2 not only a perfectly usable phone and everybody's over exaggerating problems with the device but marshmallow is about 10 days away from booting with 3 devs currently working on it.
I mean for Pete's sake I swear you guys would complain if somebody gave you a hundred dollar bill and it had an ink smudge on it.
Bottom line is you get what you pay for, but if your honestly expecting more bang for your buck than what you already have gotten I wish you the best of luck at finding it because when you get it you might find it not as good as you thought it would be. The 64 GB mi3 version of my phone ran about the same price as the 1+2 does now with a quad core sd801 and miui. Well it's been 2 years now and it only took them over 1 year to release kernel sources, miui has weekly updates that run on KitKat and are still really buggy, it lags down past 20 fps in 3d testing, the screen reacts before I even touch it if I don't have a screen protector on it, the radio in my phone is equivalent to the first gen iPhone (I usually sit between 2 and 3 bars out of 5 while my brothers 1+2 I had just bought for him sits at 3 to 5 it averages 4 bars mainly however it pegs out 5 bars just as often as it drops to 3 bars (I've never seen his lose signal for even a second). My phone will lose signal just driving down the road at times in the wide open rolling plains while his does not traveling in the same vehicle) so trust me for a Chinese phone you invested your money fairly well.
Sorry akexeiz I trailed off there while agreeing with you and got carried away but it needed to be said.
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It's just a marketing, guys...

Planning to buy opt

Ok so I've had enough of sammy phones. now i am planning to buy opt to be honest this is the only phone in my view right now.
but i read a lot about "home" and "fingerprint" not working or stopped working in few weeks or so.
i have a two questions regarding opt.
Should i buy this smartphone? If so why?
Is fingerprint and home button issue related to software or hardware?
its a good phone for the price. Development and updates are gonna come soon now, so you almost picked the perfect time. My fingerprint and homebutton has always been working fine and all I did was unlock, root and install some kernels for now. I think the problems are hardware related though. To be honest. If you can affort it, definitely go for a nexus 6p.
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im planning also to get this device, im confused if the 1+2 or the Redmi Note 3 pro.
It depends if you want a clean stock Android interface go for opt, if you want miui then go for mi note pro 3.
I personally would go for opt.
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Avoid it. I sold my OPT after 6 months. Fingerprint doesn't work as soon as any moisture touches it. No real developer interest - looks at the threads to see all the devs who left. The price used to be a great draw until the Nexus price drops. And at the end of the day, nothing will fix the SD 810 which is an overheating mess. It just doesn't work.
If price matters, get the N5X. If you want the best phone right now, get the S7 Edge.
ethicalankit said:
Ok so I've had enough of sammy phones. now i am planning to buy opt to be honest this is the only phone in my view right now.
but i read a lot about "home" and "fingerprint" not working or stopped working in few weeks or so.
i have a two questions regarding opt.
Should i buy this smartphone? If so why?
Is fingerprint and home button issue related to software or hardware?
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unless you get a used one on swappa or ebay for a deal, don't get it. I sold mine, Oxygen OS is terrible and even though there are custom roms where FP and LAF work, they are buggy. Wait for the Oneplus 3 or settle back for the original Oneplus One.
Love my OPT bought it in october and dont understand all the hate. Great overall experience. I ise exodus rom no bugs at all. But again all user choice. ?
Nexus 5 over heats way more than this device. fp and laf works perfect for me (only tested cm13 and exodus, though)
It's a great device, just buy it and dont think about it. The fingerprint Sensor is working awesome, much faster than the iPhone one. With the 3.0 update everything runs buttery smooth
I'd say it's really a gamble if you're buying the OPT since their tech support is flaky at best. The hardware specs are reasonable for the price and there are some good devs out there like Lord Boeffla and his kernel, however you will also have huge issues if your phone develops hardware problems. For example - some owners have setup a twitter account recently to badger Oneplus as they can't get any response from the local and official support channels after encountering hardware issues. I'd suggest taking the Nexus 5x instead as it is around the Oneplus price range and LG is a much larger and established company which will take RMA and support issues seriously.
my oneplus2 just arrived
I gotta say OS 3.0 on my OPT made the phone a million times better. Everything is super fast now and FP is even faster. Better life is much better now with 3.0. Before the update I wanted to throw the phone at the wall for all lags
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Won't suggest, better to go for a lower powered phone instead for the price.
Spec sheets are not everything
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Go for it.
I too am going to be getting myself a opt next week. I've been pretty loyal to samsung in general owned a nexus 6 but still came back. I'm selling the note 4 so effectively getting opt free.
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I gotta say OS 3.0 on my OPT made the phone a million times better. Everything is super fast now and FP is even faster. Better life is much better now with 3.0. Before the update I wanted to throw the phone at the wall for all lags
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Exactly my expreience as well. With the OOS 3.0 beta it's like a completely new phone. It doesn't get warm at all, the performance is actually what you would expect from a Snapdragon 810 and the battery life is what you would expect from 3300mAh. It was always kind of held back by the ****ty software but with the 3.0 beta working really well and official cyanogenmod on the way, I can't think of a better phone at this price.
I've had my OP2 since they were first released, and have to say I'm still really happy with it. As mentioned by others, OOS3 (and the recent CM13 builds) have made performance 10 times better, and have no major complaints. Never had any problems with the home button or anything else. It's a steal at the price, imo
Don't buy it. Unless they've changed their design around the home button/FP, its going to fail.
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Don't buy it. Unless they've changed their design around the home button/FP, its going to fail.
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Based on?
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Based on?
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Based on mine failing as well as a crap ton of others on this forum and oneplus community forum in the past month. I've raised this with OnePlus and they brushed it off, however they are RMA'ing my phone.
Trust me, I tried all the software tricks none of them worked for me.

HTC 10 reviews are out, and here are my thoughts...

I have been torn between G5 and HTC 10 for some time now and after watching HTC 10 reviews I have come to these conclusions:
Display
Better on G5, more vivid and sharper. HTC 10 one looks too washed out.
Camera
G5 wins no contest here. HTC 10 camera is not bad but low light performance is pretty average, also no wide angle.
Build quality
HTC 10 for sure. LG needs to sort their QC issues.
Design
G5, since HTC 10 looks like a mashup of iphone and old galaxy phones.
Battery
G5's removable options really is better here, even though HTC 10 has got slightly bigger battery. Nothing beats 0-100 in 5 seconds.
UI
I perfer the stock HTC 10 UI over all-white G5's, which is the 1st thing i am looking to change if we ever get root.
Performance
According to Anandtech HTC 10 NAND is almost 35% slower to S7(G5 uses same NAND as S7) in read speed, so G5 will have much better overall performance.
Developement
HTC has confirmed unlocked bootloader and even if its locked by carrier you can easily get it unlocked from HTC. Whereas with G5 its hard to say anything atm.
Finally, HTC have said that they welcome everyone to customize their devices with custom roms and will honor warranty claims if anything goes wrong (upto to a certain extent). With LG its a straight 'NO' and unlocking bootloader means bye bye warranty.
So there you have it, I think i will wait and see how HTC 10 shapes up in next week or so, and maybe then I will decided wether to swap or keep my G5.
Let me know what you guys think.
I think I'd wait a little longer for the HTC to get into more hands.
That being said. I am more interested in the HTC 10 than the G5.
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I'm absolutely loving the G5. My wife had the s7 and neither of us like it. So we both got G5. I have heard lots of bad stories about the G5 but ours are both cosmetically and functionally perfect. She's had hers for a week and me 2 days.
I'm also considering trading mine for the m10. ( only for development) i no doubt feel like I'm downgrading if I trade but I'm a flashaholic and I can't stand no root. However if I trade I'm afraid I will regret it if root is discovered for the G5. Because this phone is a beast! Super fast and solid imo. Wish the HTC at least would have gone with the 820 chipset
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I'm absolutely loving the G5. My wife had the s7 and neither of us like it. So we both got G5. I have heard lots of bad stories about the G5 but ours are both cosmetically and functionally perfect. She's had hers for a week and me 2 days.
I'm also considering trading mine for the m10. ( only for development) i no doubt feel like I'm downgrading if I trade but I'm a flashaholic and I can't stand no root. However if I trade I'm afraid I will regret it if root is discovered for the G5. Because this phone is a beast! Super fast and solid imo. Wish the HTC at least would have gone with the 820 chipset
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They did go with the 820
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I'm loving the G5 as well and I'm coming from the M8 and M9. I had a lot of trouble with HTCs customer service and do not plan to ever visit that situation again. The M8 was cool and boom sound great and the development was plentyful. That's all it had,as far ad anything else it was an above average phone. The M9 speaks for itself.I just don't trust HTC enough to put all my eggs in one basket again.
As far as the G5,its been a solid phone IMO. The camera is very good,but could use some tweaking for low light situations. Its speedy and lag free. I've not had any issues other than the casing could have been better. For a $700 flagship, no cut comers should have been took.
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Oh I thought they used the 810! Thanks. 4 gigs of ram ?
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Oh I thought they used the 810! Thanks. 4 gigs of ram ?
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Yes. 4 gigs of ram.
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Yes. 4 gigs of ram.
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Thank you. I guess I looked at the wrong specs or something because I swear it said 810 chipset. I'm going to swing by Sprint store and check it out. I'm not a bells and whistles kind of guy.
I just want good performance and development
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Last I checked there are no full HTC 10 reviews, only glorified hands on using beta devices. When the G5 was being judged off the beta phones, everyone was defending it asking to wait for the official device. We owe the same to HTC.
The only thing I'm comfortable judging is the design, and I'd give that to HTC. The G5 is fairly unattractive. They ruined whatever design they had when they removed their back buttons.
Either way, I'm getting an HTC 10. LG lost a lot of my support with the G4 bootlooping fiasco and the G5 just seems like a gimmick/half baked modular device. Not to mention all the QC issues that have popped up.
I personally think the HTC 10 is setting itself up to be a good phone. I like the simplified look.
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There are some design flaws with HTC 10, like that big arse camera at front and in-your-face notification light ? I like my workplace clutter/distraction free and them 2 will definitely get on nerves.
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There are some design flaws with HTC 10, like that big arse camera at front and in-your-face notification light ? I like my workplace clutter/distraction free and them 2 will definitely get on nerves.
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The notification LED can be turned off. I'd imagine most people would keep it on however since it's a coveted feature throughout most of the community.
That being said, I think the most annoying distraction ever added to a phone is easily the Always on Display. I had to turn it off after my first day at work. I found myself always looking at the phone every time the clock/information moved around to prevent burn in. I also think it's a useless feature and the only thing it's good for is draining battery life.
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Starting my 3rd night with the LG G5. I have seen nothing but good from this phone. My battery life is amazing! The os is blazing fast with this hardware. And mine has no flaws cosmetically either. It also runs cooler then any pho e I have owned in the past 7 or 8 years ( mostly sammy) If I swap it for the HTC ( and I probably will) it will be purely based on development alone. I'm sure the HTC is a quality phone but so is this and my wife's G5.
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Last I checked there are no full HTC 10 reviews, only glorified hands on using beta devices. When the G5 was being judged off the beta phones, everyone was defending it asking to wait for the official device. We owe the same to HTC.
The only thing I'm comfortable judging is the design, and I'd give that to HTC. The G5 is fairly unattractive. They ruined whatever design they had when they removed their back buttons.
Either way, I'm getting an HTC 10. LG lost a lot of my support with the G4 bootlooping fiasco and the G5 just seems like a gimmick/half baked modular device. Not to mention all the QC issues that have popped up.
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Regardless of the modules being somewhat gimmicky. The G5 on its own is a really good device. One thing that's not a gimmick is the wide angle camera lens. Plus the fact that it kept the IR blaster is pretty great. As we know, deciding on a phone has to do with the features that matter to us personally. I wouldn't let the modules sway your decision all that much. They are kind of just an added bonus.
For full disclosure I have had the HTC M7 and M8 and currently on the LG G4. I have also just ordered the HTC 10.
That being said, I think both the LG G4 and HTC 10 are great proposition's in their own right. The camera on the G4 was fantastic and the camera proposition has only improved in the G5. My concern is whether the duel photo set up is easily transportable to other phones / computers. I know Zoe's don't work well off a HTC phone for example.
The removable battery in the LG phones is also a big bonus for two reasons. Long term battery degeneration and swap out for full. Unless there are offers to get the second battery then this is a hidden second cost that I'm not seeing people factor in to the cost of the phone?
The HTC 10 design is something I like. This is subjective so won't go into too much detail there. I do find it curious that the M8 to M9 got slated for lack of innovation in design but the s6 and edge to S7 and edge has not even come up??
Build quality is something that I'm seeing as a potential issue with the G5, particularly with the module on the bottom not matching up to the main body of the device. I think HTC wins this battle against basically any other Android OEM.
The modules seem pretty darn expensive, not available (or available everywhere) and concerns that they may not work on future phones? Again these seem like additional costs to get the phone you might want (better for photos or for music). I'm hearing early news that the B&O play music module is better than the HTC 10 in certain scenarios but I don't like how much I will have to pay extra for it.
The bootloader unlocking and dev support for me can not be shouted about enough. Especially after the experience I have had on the G4. A fraction of the development that we had on the M8 and even the M9 which didn't get as many devs move to.. Given that this is XDA and attracts a certain type of Android user, I figure that to be massively important to most people in this community.
I do commend LG for going down a different route with the modularity, its exactly what we need in the Android ecosystem to give users truely different options. I feel like the G6 (if they continue to refine this approach) will have the build concerns sorted and deliver a great phone. Only thing LG need to work on is allowing bootloader unlocks (even if that means a voided warranty).
i was all for the htc 10 until i saw that EE in the UK are selling the LG G5 for £399 on pay as you go. Just got an unlock code from EE for £8.99 put the voda sim in it and happy as Larry.
I dropped my s7 edge whch i like and a better all round phone tbh (not much in it) and the insurance gave me a cash settlement of £639! Ive basically made £239 profit!
Cant believe EE are selling this phone for £409 (have to buy a £10 top up). Thats ludicrous !!!!!
No removable battery, no care. Seriously though, I am a battery swapper so if a phone doesn't have one I can swap out I'm not really interested.

What your thoughts one the OP3? Upgrade?

I'm not liking the design at all.
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I'm not liking the design at all.
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No... Not at all
My op2 didn't even complete a year
I change phones at least after 2 years of use
So maybe will look forward for op4
OP is going to release the final OxygenOS MM and maybe they will release also the OPT's Android 6 Device Tree, I don't think OP3 will be a great choice if they doesn't release Device Tree ASAP, cause modding needs it.
So, yep OP3 has a better hardware, I like that design, but OPT is still a good device. With OPT complete Device Tree we will get a fully working MultiROM, better custom roms, better customizations...And I don't want to face again the lack of sources on a device.
My next device? Maybe a Nexus.
Doesn't look overly inspiring to me. That said, there's nothing else on the market at the moment I'm that interested in.
Was the 6gb version just speculation, then? I quite liked the idea, even though that's a completely pointless amount of RAM to have on a phone
Wouldnt buy a phone with its specs for more than 300€. Considering OnePlus 3 will ship with android lollipop lol
This phone is good enough until 2018 or so if OnePlus release MM sources or update to N (dreaming)
Here is the link:
http://shouji.tenaa.com.cn/mobile/M...=rtlwD3LZsDCqCB2mAZCLI6RQHe0jz4rS9Xxlj9TaoC8=
i will go for the op4, the only thing i dont like about the op2 is the heat sometimes (lets see how its going on summer )
I'll give it a go. I was happy with the op2, dodgy battery life but a good camera on a sub £300 phone with 64gb storage. At the end of the day that's enough for doing daily stuff.
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Oneplus never again. I'm still waiting them to release the sources
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I would stick with OP2. There is not much difference in the specs department of the two phones. And once the kernel sources are released for MM, the development will flourish and I don't think we would have to wait so long for CM 14 like we did for CM 13. Also, I would refrain from buying OP devices and would simply go for nexus.
The main thing I like about my OP2 is that it has its own individual design and stands out from the crowd. The OP3 looks like any other phone out there. I think this is a bad move on oneplus's part.
Hopefully they'll realise their mistake and go back to what they do best with the OP4. Based on the leaked specs it's not worth upgrading from the OP2 anyway.
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I love the wooden backcovers on my OP2, one of the reasons I bought it and OP3 doesnt seem to have changeable backcovers. So no OP3 for me, if the leaked design is real.
Also now when eSIM seems to be on the rise, soon there won't be any need for phones with multiple SIM slots to have support for multiple phone providers. Instead we can have support for multiple SD-cards instead ?
No sandstone, no upgrade...
Its under 400$ ill upgrade ... I like the design it's op2+htc10 = op3
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The main thing I like about my OP2 is that it has its own individual design and stands out from the crowd. The OP3 looks like any other phone out there. I think this is a bad move on oneplus's part.
Hopefully they'll realise their mistake and go back to what they do best with the OP4. Based on the leaked specs it's not worth upgrading from the OP2 anyway
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Agreed. I really like the design of the OP2. If I wanted a phone that looked like an HTC, I'd buy an HTC.

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