Moderator Please Delete!
move it to development section
Hi !!
On the latest build, no Ril works... Fixing it as I write ... Also, Hardware keys don't work (fixed and coming in next build)
I am not creating thread as it is not official
Naman Bhalla said:
Hi !!
On the latest build, no Ril works... Fixing it as I write ... Also, Hardware keys don't work (fixed and coming in next build)
I am not creating thread as it is not official
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Ok man.?
So we can expect RIL and hardware keys in next build?
It has layers right? If I'm not wrong....
All bugs reported till now, fixed. Build coming very soon.
#staybroken
Used this on my OPO. Time to try on my OPT.
Broken-v4.2-oneplus2-6.0.1-UNOFFICIAL-20160216.zip
The new one with all fixes you told?
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759880262
vergilbt said:
Broken-v4.2-oneplus2-6.0.1-UNOFFICIAL-20160216.zip
The new one with all fixes you told?
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759880262
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physical keys not working on this build.
Is this Broken AF?? Pun intended. Lel.
Inb4 someone asks for what's broken in this ROM, OP can gladly say it is literally EVERYTHING.
Happy to see a new ROM emerging though. Props!
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Naman Bhalla said:
All bugs reported till now, fixed. Build coming very soon.
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Rom does not recognise my sim card, can you tell me how to fix please.
walkim61 said:
Rom does not recognise my sim card, can you tell me how to fix please.
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I don't think new build is out yet.
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First of all, let me state that I am thrilled to see Broken in development for the OP2, the lack of which was probably the second biggest reason I've refrained from switching to my OP2 as a daily driver (the first being a serious lack of decent kernel development). So what I'm about to say, I'm only saying due to my desire to see Broken development for the OP2 continue and my faith in @Naman Bhalla's ability.
I would highly recommend the OP request this thread to be closed to prevent a war from breaking out. @Naman Bhalla has already acknowledged that there was a reason for him to omit making a thread, and that reason is a good one. I reckon it'd be wise to respect that decision for the benefit of all of us who enjoy this ROM despite it's territorial lead dev team.
As many of you may already be aware, the BrokenOS team tend not to take kindly to threads created by unofficial device maintainers, if at all. Broken build distribution is more or less relegated to the BrokenOS GPlus group and dysfunctionalroms.net by their own choosing and I would recommend that it remain there (or be posted, if not already) and that we leave it in Naman's hands to usher the development of this ROM along through the proper channels with the consent of Broken's dev team which he seems to be well on his way of doing.
It's probably the best shot we have of ensuring that Naman's efforts are not lost amidst a flame war as well as his potential recognition as an official maintainer going forward. Again, I say this considering the official dev's contempt for unofficial build threads, the oneplus community to an extent, and most if all xda in general. On the flip side, BrokenOS threads on XDA have a long-history of not ending so well.
While I, and I'm sure many of you, are less than pleased and may not agree with some of the actions and stances taken by BrokenOS' temperamental team in the past.. many of us also recognize it to be a stellar ROM all the same. For those of us, the best course of action here would be to respect the content creator's wish of how things of this nature should be handled.
return.of.octobot said:
First of all, let me state that I am thrilled to see Broken in development for the OP2, the lack of which was probably the second biggest reason I've refrained from switching to my OP2 as a daily driver (the first being a serious lack of decent kernel development). So what I'm about to say, I'm only saying due to my desire to see Broken development for the OP2 continue and my faith in @Naman Bhalla's ability.
I would highly recommend the OP request this thread to be closed to prevent a war from breaking out. @Naman Bhalla has already acknowledged that there was a reason for him to omit making a thread, and that reason is a good one. I reckon it'd be wise to respect that decision for the benefit of all of us who enjoy this ROM despite it's territorial lead dev team.
As many of you may already be aware, the BrokenOS team tend not to take kindly to threads created by unofficial device maintainers, if at all. Broken build distribution is more or less relegated to the BrokenOS GPlus group and dysfunctionalroms.net by their own choosing and I would recommend that it remain there (or be posted, if not already) and that we leave it in Naman's hands to usher the development of this ROM along through the proper channels with the consent of Broken's dev team which he seems to be well on his way of doing.
It's probably the best shot we have of ensuring that Naman's efforts are not lost amidst a flame war as well as his potential recognition as an official maintainer going forward. Again, I say this considering the official dev's contempt for unofficial build threads, the oneplus community to an extent, and most if all xda in general. On the flip side, BrokenOS threads on XDA have a long-history of not ending so well.
While I, and I'm sure many of you, are less than pleased and may not agree with some of the actions and stances taken by BrokenOS' temperamental team in the past.. many of us also recognize it to be a stellar ROM all the same. For those of us, the best course of action here would be to respect the content creator's wish of how things of this nature should be handled.
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Sorry for late reply but you mean I should close the thread?
If yes then ok
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Sorry for late reply but you mean I should close the thread?
If yes then ok
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Yeah that would be better
Related
I hope this thread does not get me booted off however ... What is the point of this ROM? It has been months and months and many other excellent ROMs are on the board and have been updated continuously with the latest goodies. Da_G and NRG deliver excellent ROMs all the time and yet the REP has yet to release one iteration. I vaguely recall before the thread was locked and purged, that this ROM will still be released at 6.1 although with the current timeline, maybe it will ultimately be released with 7.0. Just a question from a curious reader.
What is the purpose of this ROM? Well maybe just the diversity. So that you dont have to choose between Da_G and NRG only. If you like one of these, then use them. Others who have stayed with the Elite team from RC1 will surely flash RC5 just to see whats new and enjoy the style in which the ROM is created.
I dont quite understand why that particular rom gets stickied anyway but who am I to question the staff's judgement =x
X2D said:
I dont quite understand why that particular rom gets stickied anyway but who am I to question the staff's judgement =x
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it is pretty annoying, and rather elitist. Why do they think their rom deserves top priority attention? Don't get me wrong, elite RC3 was my first venture into flashing. But from what i've seen, the roms are well out of date compared to any of the others which see frequent updates.
Discussed, re-discussed and re-re-re-re.
Elite's team provided us with the HSPL, it was part of the Touch Pro Elite Project. Without HSPL, no ROM flashing, nothing.
Also they're work got slowed down by some personal issues for two of the members.
I personally stopped using Elite's ROM at around RC3. I also don't see whats the big deal abut it being stickied.
Thread will get closed soon, hopes this answer some questions.
Elite RC1 was my first ROM, currently chrome is my favorite, But I always prefer to have multiple options, stickied or not, keep up the good work!
I do think it's odd that there are now four and presumably five 'Release Candidates', as if what I've already installed hasn't been released. I'm not sure what happens when the team pick one to 'release'? Similarly, it's odd that a thread was setup to release a release candidate 10 days ago, but nothing has materialised and the thread is locked. Why not setup up the thread when the ROM is ready to be downloaded??
To be honest i dont understand what is the problem you see guys. Its just a forum topic. Stored somewhere on a disk drive, taking few Kilobytes of storage. Once again, if you dont want to flash any of the RCs, dont do it. Yes, its stickied, maybe other ROMs should be stickied as well, that wont probably change as soon. So just ignore the threads, if you dont wait for RC5 or dislike the Project as whole.
Again???
How often will this discussion surface?
Does someone have the idea that this is a democratic propoganda site and that the multitude of users determine whats on the menu?
No,.. it's the guys that have the possibility to make a thread sticky who determine this.
They run the show , like it or not.
Of course, in the effect they ignore all the good work done by others!
I take it as it comes. Elite project is not bringing me what I like. I like and use other ROM's instead. No need to nag about it.
Let's stick to the fact that everyone who is contributing to this site,... is in fact contributing! And thats what it's all about!
Haspels said:
How often will this discussion surface?
Does someone have the idea that this is a democratic propoganda site and that the multitude of users determine whats on the menu?
No,.. it's the guys that have the possibility to make a thread sticky who determine this.
They run the show , like it or not.
Of course, in the effect they ignore all the good work done by others!
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I do not agree with that statement one bit. First of all, you have to earn the moderator status. This status is given to people, who help and contribute the most to the community. Secondly, hardspl for Touch Pro was developed by a member of the Elite team. It is only thanks to this SW that we can flash our devices with any ROM we wish (it doesn't have to be Elite ROM). So there is definatelly a democracy here and the people behind Elite ROM have a great deal to do with it. If what you state were true and the the guys running this forum would really want to "ignore all the good work done by others", they would have had to act exactly the opposite way.
Who cares? If you're not a cook, it shouldn't bother you. Since this is THE place to get a good ROM, it shouldn't matter. Scroll past it and forget it... It should be mentioned that if you go through any of the RC# threads, it's discussed there. Search and find the answer, but I believe it's been mentioned here already...
Thread not related to ROM development and is starting to turn into a flame war.
P.S. If you have a problem with the actions of moderators either take it up with them in Private Message, or speak to the site administrator. Please don't air your dirty laundry in public.
Let's keep the focus on what's important - hacking phones to get the best out of them, and most inportantly, having fun .
Dave
Hey everyone,
We've made a small change to this forum by giving it a different name. This is now the *default* Android development forum for Galaxy S II. Any works that are completely original will be filed in the Original Android Development forum. Everything else will go here.
We have a more long-term solution to the ROM situation in the works. It'll be a database-driven ROM upload tool that will make it super easy for users to find and rate the ROMs that you upload. You'll be hearing more about this in the coming months.
For now, please continue to provide feedback. Thank you for your help in making XDA a more organized place.
Thanks!
P.S. If you think your ROM should be placed in the Original Android Development forum, send me a PM.
Edit from noppy22: this thread is no longer relevant so I unstuck it...
Sveitus,
I am dissapointed that the original explainatory thread was closed without reason after it was collecting opposing comments. Not cool.
I believe what you've posted (not done, I am confident that this was done with some consultation, somewhere) should be discussed in a wider context.
To that end, I've opened a thread in the XDA general forum with an admittedly emotive title "First and Second Class ROMS, 1st, 2nd class users". Please track this thread, assuming it's not lost amidst the noise.
I would have posted my concerns in the original notification thread except...
What gives?
Just imagine someone from sensation comes here and sees two development threads...
Sensation owners must be jealous by now..
But why is this only done on the GALAXY S2 subforums? Please, implement this on all phone subforum. I want to see how others would react.
Still think this is a stupid idea. If devs don't want other devs recycling their works, better not publish it. Or you can just close the thread of the ROM that was derived from an another ROM without permission/due credit.
The current situation is not something new to all of us.
There were always have been such ''issues'' among the rom developers.
xda team the way you chose to work this out is not good at all.
I'm starting to think that you don't listen to the majority of the users...
You hear a few dev's that probably are jealous of others...
This is not right for the community.
I personally am not supporting anyone particularly, but you must find another solution.
giokou said:
The current situation is not something new to all of us.
There were always have been such ''issues'' among the rom developers.
xda team the way you chose to work this out is not good at all.
I'm starting to think that you don't listen to the majority of the users...
You hear a few dev's that probably are jealous of others...
This is not right for the community.
I personally am not supporting anyone particularly, but you must find another solution.
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I 100% support this view...
If this is the case, then no custom roms should be in "original" section, as they are all derived from the stock manufacturer's roms.
khein said:
But why is this only done on the GALAXY S2 subforums? Please, implement this on all phone subforum. I want to see how others would react.
Still think this is a stupid idea. If devs don't want other devs recycling their works, better not publish it. Or you can just close the thread of the ROM that was derived from an another ROM without permission/due credit.
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All hell would break lose and their would be a mass exodus of developers and some pissed off members.
And why was the other thread closed. Perhaps XDA didn't like that all the negative PR they were getting. This plan was poorly conceived and executed. And to make it worse, XDA is being the judge, jury and executioner.
I am quite disappointed that this unjustified separation and disqualification of some devs work is still not corrected. You justified your step by "feedback" asking for it. I believe you are severely misleading people here.
You earned a lot of justified feedback in the first thread being deleted meanwhile and still you don't get things sorted out.
It is obviously totally wrong to piss off devs and force them to prove they are not guilty of what you may think. It ought to be the other way around: you should have a prove to claim what you state before you behave (and take action) the way you did. Some kind of US wild west mentality around here. I understand when people think that you only try to protect some of the devs being closer to you or being longer active on xda than some others. The selection of Roms being put to one or the other section proves that already since there seems to be no logic behind your decisions. Some early birds being put to the second class thread while some others who have just released quite usual stuff but were active with other hardware before have been put to the first class thread. And till now no kind of explanation why this or that Rom has been put here or there? What about Litenin e.g. which has been asked for a dozen times in the first, deleted thread ?
And above all: what kind of guilt do you think of ?
We are talking about open source here and all Roms are derived from Samsung stuff except for CM / MIUI. So where does originality start and where does it end? And who may decide: Even if a custom ROM was copied from another custom one in the first step it might have become an own developement over time.
jlevy73 said:
All hell would break lose and their would be a mass exodus of developers and some pissed off members.
And why was the other thread closed. Perhaps XDA didn't like that all the negative PR they were getting. This plan was poorly conceived and executed. And to make it worse, XDA is being the judge, jury and executioner.
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The other thread was closed because it was a discussion on the Derived ROMs Forum format, which as you state wasn't what we hoped it would be. So, changed the forum format. The old discussion was closed and a new one started to discuss this iteration. The thread was also started and stuck by svetius.
zikarus said:
I am quite disappointed that this unjustified separation and disqualification of some devs work is still not corrected. You justified your step by "feedback" asking for it. I believe you are severely misleading people here.
You earned a lot of justified feedback in the first thread being deleted meanwhile and still you don't get things sorted out.
It is obviously totally wrong to piss off devs and force them to prove they are not guilty of what you may think. It ought to be the other way around: you should have a prove to claim what you state before you behave (and take action) the way you did. Some kind of US wild west mentality around here. I understand when people think that you only try to protect some of the devs being closer to you or being longer active on xda than some others. The selection of Roms being put to one or the other section proves that already since there seems to be no logic behind your decisions. Some early birds being put to the second class thread while some others who have just released quite usual stuff but were active with other hardware before have been put to the first class thread. And till now no kind of explanation why this or that Rom has been put here or there? What about Litenin e.g. which has been asked for a dozen times in the first, deleted thread ?
And above all: what kind of guilt do you think of ?
We are talking about open source here and all Roms are derived from Samsung stuff except for CM / MIUI. So where does originality start and where does it end? And who may decide: Even if a custom ROM was copied from another custom one in the first step it might have become an own developement over time.
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The thread hasn't been deleted, it's been closed. The reasons (while obvious) are above.
Clearer..
<sarcasm>
This titling does make it clearer..
Example:
Original Development: CM7
It's built from the ground up with a myriad of coded additions to be a truly 'Original' product.
Development: Everything else
All other ROMS are stock deodexed upgrades.
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Don't like this idea...
DaveShaw said:
The thread hasn't been deleted, it's been closed. The reasons (while obvious) are above.
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Closed or deleted - did not see it but no big difference anyway.
And there is nothing obvious neither about the closing nor the separation.
If you like to install a new tool do so. Build it, introduce it. Till then leave things as they were, stop separation and maybe excuse for the mess you produced by an unbiased decision... My 5 ct
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I really don't understand what an "original ROM" is. Google wrote the only original Android ROM imho.
here's a thought.
Villain Rom Lite is in "original" even though it's clearly based off VillainRom.
There's CLEAR favoritism going on here.
It should either be merged with the original or moved. It's just the same ROM with removed apps. How is that "original"?
Simple Result:
As far as I see; Some devs are out of business and as far as I feel, more to be...
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here's a thought.
Villain Rom Lite is in "original" even though it's clearly based off VillainRom.
There's CLEAR favoritism going on here.
It should either be merged with the original or moved. It's just the same ROM with removed apps. How is that "original"?
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Uhm actually the fact that thread was buried a few pages until yesterday meant svetius may have missed it. Moved it across.
That's grand, we don't have derivated roms anymore, we have originals and others (stolen, fakes, not so cool). I like the way mods are listening...
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I must admit, the way the mods have chosen to separate the two development sections doesn't sit well with me at all. The criteria for which section a ROM goes in to is very subjective and open to various interpretations, all of which are prone to the moderator's possible bias.
Strictly speaking, only one or two ROMs are 'original development' and belong in that section. All the others are derivatives in some way or another.
A better way to clean up the dev forum would be to have a couple of sub-sections; perhaps one for all ROMs (regardless of source), one for kernels and related modifications and another for android-specific modifications. Then, be strict about enforcing the sub-section criteria. Also, ask ROM chefs to state in their OP whether the ROM is based on another ROM and to credit the original developer/chef.
Everything else goes in Themes & Apps.
Also, having a mandatory format for thread titles (a la the HD2 forum) is an excellent way to keep things tidy and ensure that people know when a new release has been posted and what the releases are based upon. It worked over in HD2 rather well I thought. After coming from an HD2 to the S2, I thought that the S2 forums were a little untidy to say the least.
Ok, serious mode off, back to my usual sarcastic self.
OK, I dont agree with the splitting of the forums, but its not my decision and will go along with it. One thing that does really annoy me and needs to be fixed is that this new forum doesnt show up on the android app. Can that be fixed? I like keeping up with a few roms here and am usually on the move.
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OK, I dont agree with the splitting of the forums, but its not my decision and will go along with it. One thing that does really annoy me and needs to be fixed is that this new forum doesnt show up on the android app. Can that be fixed? I like keeping up with a few roms here and am usually on the move.
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No harm in disagreeing! If enough people disagree, the mods may relent on this decision.
Last update for CM10 is 29.12 ?
And it went straight from a nightly to "stable" build.
It is quite silly to abandon one project if yet to be completed abruptly for another.
So like 10.1 will only get three quarters completion and dumped when 4.2.2 aosp code is released?
This is quite frankly utter madness.
A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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Please go to ios if you expect things to be done for you. This is not constructive at all considering that you are bringing nothing to the table. As pershoot said, it is his passion is why we see anything past the gimped TW ICS that was official release by Samsung. Not only is Samsung done with our Tab, so is Google. pershoot worked his butt off to bring compatibility to the code that dropped support for us.
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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Serpentene said:
I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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You are absolutely right, I'm very pleased to have Your versions available to flash. We who are not so talented, should be grateful (and maybe also a little bit more humble ) Thank You! :good:
Just want to sat Thankyou to pershoot, with CM10.1 my tab is better than it has been in ages. Loads of respect for the talented people who keep our devices alive.
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Serpentene said:
The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Seriously...?
Pershoot,
Thanks a million for all the amazing work you and all the other developers are doing,
If you want to change version every week I'll just say "thank you". :good:
Serpentene said:
The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Did you seriously just say this?
Read the post linked in my signature please.
One should never feel they become 'dependent' on whether or not a developer who is not being paid for his time and does this work for fun 'finishes' development on a ROM based on your personal standard. If you feel that way you should probably not be modding your devices in the first place. XDA does not exist so you can imply its users have an ethical responsibility to give you what you need to make your device cooler than someone else's... It exists to inspire you to learn how to do this stuff and give back. It is a hobby, not a responsibility, and you acknowledge that fact when you flash the work.
Honestly, if you want to see something done and don't feel like waiting for the developer to address your particular concern, you have two options:
1) be prepared to donate funds in the hundreds of dollars per hour to pay the dev's bills and maybe the dev will focus on your needs
2) do it yourself...no one's stopping you
Sent from my Infamous Tab.
+1
Really!? Really!?... And you wonder why we (developers) leave...
Pershoot has done more for this device the ANYONE ! instead of complaining, how about you say thank you and maybe send him a donation.
How to get souce code?
pershoot said:
nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
wooxz said:
I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=P4wifi_Info
This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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Serpentene said:
This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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you went from asking to a diatribe about philosophies and how I need to live up to one's expectations. put yourself in my shoes, then re-read what you wrote and the tact that was followed.
while i'm a very patient and passionate person, i only have one brain, two hands and only so much free time.
as stated prior, roll up your sleeves and start working on it. that is how you can make a difference and understand what a person like me goes through supporting X amount of users across X amount of devices.
Most of the official ROMS are still in alpha, beta or nightly with no milestone version. Why is that?
Because most people don't rely on roms....xposed framework has greatly impacted my usage of roms.
I dunno why. Most of what I have used certainly didn't feel like a beta.
I am pretty gosh darn thankful we have what we have considering the limited number of newer devices with Verizon that can be tinkered with.
Exactly,
You should be thankful for what you have and not question what you don't.
A lot of devs and myself have jumped to the nexus 6, yet we still come here and build for you guys.
jfriend33 said:
Because most people don't rely on roms....xposed framework has greatly impacted my usage of roms.
I dunno why. Most of what I have used certainly didn't feel like a beta.
I am pretty gosh darn thankful we have what we have considering the limited number of newer devices with Verizon that can be tinkered with.
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I'm only curious because it's over a year old and they are still in this stage. That's all.
bweN diorD said:
Exactly,
You should be thankful for what you have and not question what you don't.
A lot of devs and myself have jumped to the nexus 6, yet we still come here and build for you guys.
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What was the purpose of your reply?
digitallure said:
What was the purpose of your reply?
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What was the purpose of your question? To piss of the few devs that still build for the g3?
Because thats how it came off, as ungrateful.
bweN diorD said:
What was the purpose of your question? To piss of the few devs that still build for the g3?
Because thats how it came off, as ungrateful.
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Well you need some perspective glasses. My question was just that, a question. If you have a problem with my question, maybe you should've asked someone else what they thought I'd the question instead of jumping to the conclusion that my question was other than a question. Don't be a troll.
Why would you insult someone who is contributing to the community? He was just saying that you shouldn't worry about the state of the roms here just be thankful that there is something for you to flash since a lot of developers have moved on from this device. I don't think your original question was wrong but the way you handled the responses were. Again just be thankful you have what you have or install Linux and compile the roms yourself.
Wow... His question didn't seem too insulting to me, just a bit ignorant and curious.
Most 'Unofficial' ROMs are work that someone has ported to the device; they are not supported by the teams that made the original.
Official ROMs are created by and most supported by the team on the specific device; the download is usually a link to the team's website. However, in many cases, they may only have one device among them and have not tested everything to the extent that either a test group or the public at large would, naturally. Development is always a WIP, so the BETA indicator is almost universal in custom ROMs where there is not major funding. More often, stock-based ROMs are called stable, because they are working with the base of a stable product that includes all the proprietary drivers and frameworks, vetted by a commissioned dev team at the OEM and another at the carrier.
Some devs/teams here are able to do more testing than others, but the BETA is often an exemption for anything that might not have been found in limited testing. In short, a ROM is often in beta because it has not been thoroughly tested by numerous testers on a specific device, providing detailed feedback and some debugging to the dev team. The more that users here dig in and try to help as opposed to saying "Does this work on this?" or "Why this don't workee??", the more stable those Beta ROMs tend to be--and some are rock solid or only have a few niggles.
Also, if the codebase that a dev starts with is a beta or nightly release (e.g. CM or PA), the child/forked ROM will most always carry over the alpha or beta label.
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Why would you insult someone who is contributing to the community? He was just saying that you shouldn't worry about the state of the roms here just be thankful that there is something for you to flash since a lot of developers have moved on from this device. I don't think your original question was wrong but the way you handled the responses were. Again just be thankful you have what you have or install Linux and compile the roms yourself.
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But I wasn't complaining. Simply asking a question about alpha and beta ROMs for the device. How is that insulting? If that was insulting, then every post made should be insulting. Why go any deeper? I just asked a question.
epidenimus said:
Wow... His question didn't seem too insulting to me, just a bit ignorant and curious.
Most 'Unofficial' ROMs are work that someone has ported to the device; they are not supported by the teams that made the original.
Official ROMs are created by and most supported by the team on the specific device; the download is usually a link to the team's website. However, in many cases, they may only have one device among them and have not tested everything to the extent that either a test group or the public at large would, naturally. Development is always a WIP, so the BETA indicator is almost universal in custom ROMs where there is not major funding. More often, stock-based ROMs are called stable, because they are working with the base of a stable product that includes all the proprietary drivers and frameworks, vetted by a commissioned dev team at the OEM and another at the carrier.
Some devs/teams here are able to do more testing than others, but the BETA is often an exemption for anything that might not have been found in limited testing. In short, a ROM is often in beta because it has not been thoroughly tested by numerous testers on a specific device, providing detailed feedback and some debugging to the dev team. The more that users here dig in and try to help as opposed to saying "Does this work on this?" or "Why this don't workee??", the more stable those Beta ROMs tend to be--and some are rock solid or only have a few niggles.
Also, if the codebase that a dev starts with is a beta or nightly release (e.g. CM or PA), the child/forked ROM will most always carry over the alpha or beta label.
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Thank you! Ignorant, yes. Curious yes, that's all. Ignorant because I don't know. Curious because I want to know why.
digitallure said:
Thank you! Ignorant, yes. Curious yes, that's all. Ignorant because I don't know. Curious because I want to know why.
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I get it, but you have to know your audience a little. Here, it's a bunch of developers and enthusiasts who freely give their time, skills, and work. While your question was about labels and versioning, the way that it is written, some may take it as "Why isn't your contribution further along and/or more stable than it is? Hell, it's been a year! How do you account for this?"
That BS isn't right when it's coming from someone who is paying you thousands for your work.
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Fingerprint sensor and laser auto focus , can you please add those?
Yes thats only stopping me from flashing roms
I ask this with respect, but are you even the original developer of this ROM? Or the other 3 ROMs that you've posted here? It feels like you might have just copied and pasted OPs, and then provided people with an untested version you just compiled and uploaded.
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I ask this with respect, but are you even the original developer of this ROM? Or the other 3 ROMs that you've posted here? It feels like you might have just copied and pasted OPs, and then provided people with an untested version you just compiled and uploaded.
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I'm not the 'original' developer of this ROM.I build ROMs and release them on XDA after the testers test it and report to me.So technically there's no way that my ROMs won't boot.You can look at my other ROMs that I've posted in XDA and take the feedback from the users that are using it.
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I'm not the 'original' developer of this ROM.I build ROMs and release them on XDA after the testers test it and report to me.So technically there's no way that my ROMs won't boot.You can look at my other ROMs that I've posted in XDA and take the feedback from the users that are using it.
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Is there a reason why your "testers" are consistently missing the fact that things like the fingerprint sensor aren't working, and that you don't seem to have a "Known Issues" list on any of the four ROM threads that you created within 2 hours?
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Is there a reason why your "testers" are consistently missing the fact that things like the fingerprint sensor aren't working, and that you don't seem to have a "Known Issues" list on any of the four ROM threads that you created within 2 hours?
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The bugs are same as that of CM12.1 by Grarak.There's no stable device trees other than Grarak's,now you're insisiting so much,I'll put them in the OP.
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The bugs are same as that of CM12.1 by Grarak.There's no stable device trees other than Grarak's,now you're insisiting so much,I'll put them in the OP.
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I'm not "insisting so much". There is a standard of development that most of XDA's developers abide by. If you're really going to simultaneously maintain 4 different ROMs at once, the least you can do is give your users a bit more information than that which you blindly copy from another thread's OP, especially if you have no intention of running any of them yourself (I assume you at least have the device itself, but now, I'm not so sure)
I looked through your started threads, it seems you have a habit of compiling a bunch of different ROMs and putting them up with little to no testing whatsoever. I'm not sure if you thought no one would notice that the only 4 ROM threads in this section are all from you and they were all posted within an hour or two.
Good luck with your "development". I don't think I need to add anything else to this thread.
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I'm not "insisting so much". There is a standard of development that most of XDA's developers abide by. If you're really going to simultaneously maintain 4 different ROMs at once, the least you can do is give your users a bit more information than that which you blindly copy from another thread's OP, especially if you have no intention of running any of them yourself (I assume you at least have the device itself, but now, I'm not so sure)
I looked through your started threads, it seems you have a habit of compiling a bunch of different ROMs and putting them up with little to no testing whatsoever. I'm not sure if you thought no one would notice that the only 4 ROM threads in this section are all from you and they were all posted within an hour or two.
Good luck with your "development". I don't think I need to add anything else to this thread.
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Nevermind,I updated the first post with the bug list so the users can take a look at the bugs in the original CM12.1 thread.
I agree to what @LiquidSolstice said.It's not a big deal to build a bunch of ROMs and post them over the development forum.Maintaining them are difficult. It would've been much better if you maintain a single ROM and work with it.Now you have like 3-4 WIP ROMs without proper testing and it seems like you doesn't own the device
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Sorry if I'm being a douchebag
I maintain all of my ROMs thoroughly.I still say,maintaining is NOT an issue for me.I give out the ROMs to the testers,they test the ROM and report me back with their issues/bugs (if any).I've been building ROMs since 5 months and I like sharing my work with all the people.Yeah,sure thing,anyone can take a look at the ROM building guides out there and make builds and post here,just like me.I've been working on other development projects too (other than building ROMs) but they're not ready yet.You see,interacting with other developers and tech people increases your morale and confidence to do pull yourself deep into the core of the stuff you're working on.For some other guys,I'm just a douchebag who got a good PC with some decent specs and builds all day.Yeah,hell yeah I'm a noob with little development skills,but I'm learning stuff day by day,incorporating and applying that knowledge into my development.I try to maintain all my projects so the users don't get disappointed.I don't have enough money to buy a server so I got a decent PC and start building on it.My only motive is to spread my projects all across the XDA,sharing stuff with people makes me happy.It's just a start,I'm reaching out to the most valuable and efficient developers here in XDA so that I can gain more knowledge.Ofcourse,I am not the greatest dev here but I want to become like one of them.Even though I might be the sh*ttiest maintainer in this whole XDA,but I try to maintain all of my ROMs so that the users don't get disappointed.
@aniket.lamba In other forums,users may ask you to build multiple ROMs and maintain them.But IMO the best way to be a good dev is to properly maintain one good ROM for the community,giving regular updates and interacting with the users.As you know the OPT dev forum will be as popular as the OPO or Nexus ones,the best way to satisfy users is to concentrate on one good ROM and provide your valuable support for it.This is my personal opinion!
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I respect your opinion but I'd still consider it my way,expanding my base and providing more support of ROMs to the community.I just wanna make sure that nobody makes a buzz about me maintaining multiple ROMs while I build on my little machine.
@aniket.lamba In other forums,users may ask you to build multiple ROMs and maintain them.But IMO the best way to be a good dev is to properly maintain one good ROM for the community,giving regular updates and interacting with the users.As you know the OPT dev forum will be as popular as the OPO or Nexus ones,the best way to satisfy users is to concentrate on one good ROM and provide your valuable support for it.This is my personal opinion!
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Sooo.. hold on... OP is a copycat and the HW features of the phone are not working ?
Thanks for being supportive to everyone who used my ROMs.Appreciate it!
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