Dear,
I just got my Moto 360. It functions perfectly fine,
however the back of the watch seems to push against the display..
Is this a bad thing of is this just normal?
Hope to hear something. Maybe it's a bad unit so I can return it.
Thanks in advance
meaning you see some LCD liquid on the display if you move a certain way? normal with these. it's so tight together that if i push the left side of the watch against my wrist, i see some discoloration. that's just how all LCD's are. the panels seem softer than AMOLED, which never does that.
jayochs said:
meaning you see some LCD liquid on the display if you move a certain way? normal with these. it's so tight together that if i push the left side of the watch against my wrist, i see some discoloration. that's just how all LCD's are. the panels seem softer than AMOLED, which never does that.
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Thanks, that really helped my understad it!
Other question though,
I have the shiney silver edition, If i scratch the bezel ( that shiney little round thingy)
Is there any sort of thing I can 'wipe' this with?
( I think I saw someting familiar with the apple watch.. )
not sure, maybe some chrome polish? I have the silver too and i'm scared to scratch it lol
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jayochs said:
not sure, maybe some chrome polish? I have the silver too and i'm scared to scratch it lol
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Just one more question,
Do you also have those purple round things in the left corners of the screen? (only if you wear the watch..)
Deltastylez said:
Just one more question,
Do you also have those purple round things in the left corners of the screen? (only if you wear the watch..)
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Get it replaced if you still can - they should not be like this. I have no evidence of the back of the screen being pushed against on mine, and it certainly should not be visible simply when wearing the watch (and I wear mine very tight).
I'm also seeing this on my watch. If I push against the back of the watch I also see some discoloration. So this is normal???
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I ordered a replacement N10, because of back flex and got it today.
Not only is the back flex worse, the screen looks worse. Compared to my original N10 the replacement looks duller. My original N10 by far looks more vibrant while the replacement has a noticeable warmer and duller color temp.
Back the replacement goes... I will live with the back flex. I really don't want to play exchange roulette like I did with the nexus 7. Those of you considering exchanging your Nexus might want to consider you might get a worse one.
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I ordered a replacement N10, because of back flex and got it today.
Not only is the back flex worse, the screen looks worse. Compared to my original N10 the replacement looks duller. My original N10 by far looks more vibrant while the replacement has a noticeable warmer and duller color temp.
Back the replacement goes... I will live with the back flex. I really don't want to play exchange roulette like I did with the nexus 7. Those of you considering exchanging your Nexus might want to consider you might get a worse one.
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Samsung's the single source for the LCD panel. If there are big variations between them it's because the tolerances on the production line are off and their slipping through QC. Some deviation from panel-to-panel is normal. If you put three SGS3's side-by-side each will have a slight variation in temperature. But what you're describing doesn't sound slight.
BamAlmighty said:
I ordered a replacement N10, because of back flex and got it today.
Not only is the back flex worse, the screen looks worse. Compared to my original N10 the replacement looks duller. My original N10 by far looks more vibrant while the replacement has a noticeable warmer and duller color temp.
Back the replacement goes... I will live with the back flex. I really don't want to play exchange roulette like I did with the nexus 7. Those of you considering exchanging your Nexus might want to consider you might get a worse one.
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I think I had a similar issue to you, but for the better.
My replacement arrived yesterday as my original device had bad back flexing
The new one has a much more vibrant and brighter screen than the old one (the autobrightness seems to react much faster and ramps the brightness more appropriately)
The replacement came shipped with build JVP15L, so I had to two updates, one to JOP20C and then again to JOP20D, weird huh?
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so your telling me you got two devices without light bleed? I can't even get one out of them.
This is somewhat good news as I seem to have a warmer screen and also suffer from light bleed so I'm probably going to get it exchanged. Hoping I get a replacement with a neutral or cooler screen. neutral or cooler toned screens tend to have better contrast for some reason vs the warmer screens.
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so your telling me you got two devices without light bleed? I can't even get one out of them.
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Yeah my first device had quite severe bleed in 3 corners, but my replacement has ever the slightest amount in the bottom corner, but its really not noticeable, even on a black background, so I'm gonna keep this one
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tcb4 said:
so your telling me you got two devices without light bleed? I can't even get one out of them.
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First unit which I kept has very little light bleed, nothing significant. The replacement had horrible light bleed, there were light streaks coming from the lower right corner.
Other than back flex, I am happy with my N10's screen.
I thought the same about my device but then I turned my brightness up and took it off automatic brightness. I can hardly believe that the difference is that stark between the two units
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Back flex????
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muyoso said:
Back flex????
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Yeah if you push hard enough on the back of your device it will dimple inward. I can't really see in my mind why this is considered even remotely a functional defect lol. This just in: plastic flexes when you push on it
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TheEmpyre said:
Yeah if you push hard enough on the back of your device it will dimple inward. I can't really see in my mind why this is considered even remotely a functional defect lol. This just in: plastic flexes when you push on it
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It is considered a defect because normally the internal components should touch the inside of the casing, so there is no cavity between the two and therefore no flexing when pressed .
In the case of the flexing units, the casing is bowed ever so slightly outwards, thus creating a cavity, so the casing flexes inwards up until it touches the components inside.
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It is considered a defect because normally the internal components should touch the inside of the casing, so there is no cavity between the two and therefore no flexing when pressed .
In the case of the flexing units, the casing is bowed ever so slightly outwards, thus creating a cavity, so the casing flexes inwards up until it touches the components inside.
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Is it actually a "bow" or is it just an air gap between the battery and the back? Mine flexes when I press it, and makes a "click" like glue forcibly coming unstuck when I release.
It's hardly the end of the world though. I'd never have realised it until it was mentioned on XDA because I'm not heavy handed enough to go squeezing it, nor would I have had cause to "press" hard on the back of it while it's lying face down.
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Is it actually a "bow" or is it just an air gap between the battery and the back? Mine flexes when I press it, and makes a "click" like glue forcibly coming unstuck when I release.
It's hardly the end of the world though. I'd never have realised it until it was mentioned on XDA because I'm not heavy handed enough to go squeezing it, nor would I have had cause to "press" hard on the back of it while it's lying face down.
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Mine was both, a bowing which caused an air gap. It didn't click at all, just flexed even when i was just holding it as the bowing was greatest directly underneath where you place your fingers. If i looked edge onto the tablet from the top, the bowing was apparent.
Figured seeing as i'm paying for it, wanted a perfect device and Google were happy to replace it, why not get it replaced?
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Mine was both, a bowing which caused an air gap. It didn't click at all, just flexed even when i was just holding it as the bowing was greatest directly underneath where you place your fingers. If i looked edge onto the tablet from the top, the bowing was apparent.
Figured seeing as i'm paying for it, wanted a perfect device and Google were happy to replace it, why not get it replaced?
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Indeed, why not. I would have done the same thing.
joke
Now all of you shut up, before I go poking around mine any more and realise I'm not happy with it and end up sending it back for replacement :laugh:
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I feel bad for you people searching for the perfect device. Chances are, the people on their 3-4-5th return are never going to be satisfied, and the devices they returned would most likely have been perfect for someone else. Having OCD about a mechanically flawless techno-gadget is like a Heroin addict chasing the dragon.
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TheEmpyre said:
Yeah if you push hard enough on the back of your device it will dimple inward. I can't really see in my mind why this is considered even remotely a functional defect lol. This just in: plastic flexes when you push on it
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Shocking news. This flex thing is like that old joke -
Patient: Doc, it hurts when I do this. (Patient flexes a joint.)
Doctor: Then don't do that.
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I feel bad for you people searching for the perfect device. Chances are, the people on their 3-4-5th return are never going to be satisfied, and the devices they returned would most likely have been perfect for someone else. Having OCD about a mechanically flawless techno-gadget is like a Heroin addict chasing the dragon.
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I wonder how much cheaper our gadgets would be if hordes of people on XDA didn't RMA 5-6 times because they go actively looking for defects they wouldn't notice otherwise?
I've been thinking about this all day. My N10 has some ripples around the detachable rear cover that I hadn't noticed until looking at the photos in this thread. Is it obvious when I show it to others? No. Does it affect operation in any way? No. Have my fingers ever felt the ripples as I use it or rotate viewing mode? No.
So why are the cosmetics such a big deal to some and not others? Obiously some rate the appearance of the device to be more important than what it does. I know I'm going to get flamed big-time for this, but worship of form over function seems to be a common trait of the Apple crowd. I truly appreciate beauty, but not so much in a tool. I used an iPad for a year and always felt like I was using a fine watch: attractive, but not adaptable to what I wanted to do. Those of us that value function more will probably never understand the other way of thinking.
tcb4 said:
so your telling me you got two devices without light bleed? I can't even get one out of them.
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Mine has ZERO light bleed and I know all about that. I use to own 3 Infinity's and that's because the first two had intolerable light bleed the third I just lived with.
I'm guessing google sacrificed build quality so they could keep prices down -- Dont really understand why it is important for your device to "look" cool when the purpose of the device is media consumption / productivity. Besides, I would bet upwards of 60% of consumers get a case for their device...whats the point of that back-flex when you have a hard shell case?
Hi guys,
So I'm posting here to ask you if this is normal or not. I'm noticing that there's a tiny tiny crack between the biezel that joins the screen to the backplate of the phone (where the plastic of the screen meets the rubber plastic of the back. This is at the bottom near the usb port in the middle between the home button and the back button. It's tiny, however it's enough that some of the white light coming from the capacitive buttons escapes from that crack/gap whatever it is that.
I've had the phone for more than 15 days now and I never noticed because this is the first time I've used the phone in a pitch black room. That's when I noticed a very dim white light escaping the biezel at that position. However, that's the only way to see it, even under close inspection you cannot see any gaps or anything... only when the surrounding is really really dark.
I hope that I explained it well because unfortunately I don't have another camera to take a picture with to show you.
Try to use your phone in a pitch black room and you should see it right away or not?
thank you,
I experience nothing like this on mine.
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latebeat said:
Hi guys,
So I'm posting here to ask you if this is normal or not. I'm noticing that there's a tiny tiny crack between the biezel that joins the screen to the backplate of the phone (where the plastic of the screen meets the rubber plastic of the back. This is at the bottom near the usb port in the middle between the home button and the back button. It's tiny, however it's enough that some of the white light coming from the capacitive buttons escapes from that crack/gap whatever it is that.
I've had the phone for more than 15 days now and I never noticed because this is the first time I've used the phone in a pitch black room. That's when I noticed a very dim white light escaping the biezel at that position. However, that's the only way to see it, even under close inspection you cannot see any gaps or anything... only when the surrounding is really really dark.
I hope that I explained it well because unfortunately I don't have another camera to take a picture with to show you.
Try to use your phone in a pitch black room and you should see it right away or not?
thank you,
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Actually mine has the same thing and i will be going to the verizon store in a few days to check out some other ones and if all of them dont have this then im getting a new one yaaayyy
iDialit said:
Actually mine has the same thing and i will be going to the verizon store in a few days to check out some other ones and if all of them dont have this then im getting a new one yaaayyy
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I'm out of town but when I get back I'll go and check what I can do too. Let me know if they give you any trouble when you ask for a new one.
My does it as well, tho I'm not really concerned.
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Mine does a tad. I'm in a really dark room very rarely. So its a nonissue for me.
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So I cracked the glass on my DNA So I decided to take the opportunity to show everyone the inside of the DNA
I still have all the parts, so if anyone wants specific shots let me know.
P.S. Do we think the yellow gasket and white goo = waterproofing?
Cool!!!
Thank for sharing these pictures.
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hey i was wondering if you can show me the leds of capacitive buttons!!!!
Thanks man. These are definitely helpful to see.
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No LEDs
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hey i was wondering if you can show me the leds of capacitive buttons!!!!
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No LEDs.. It appears to be a strip of Electroluminescent Paper or a bit LCD back-lighting without the LCD-ness. My bet is on the latter.
(Sorry, by this point everything is glued to hell... so I had to move to destructive disassembly)
Hope this helped!
Cheers,
so cool, thanks!
i was triyng to look for that "soft spot" on the back right which if pushed, caused the LED discoloration..there appears to be A LOT between the actual screen and the back plate, and it's symmetrical...yet the left side didn't have hte same soft spot the right did.
that's what caused my blue dot issue..but judging from these pics, there's alot between the back and the screen..so man, even lightly pushing that spot showed the discoloration..
I thought I was the only one with the blue dot issue, I sent mine back to Wal-Mart & they sent me a new one thank goodness. My bluish blush spot was about 1/2" above the home button & a little off to the left.
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That is exactly where the magnet for the rear speaker is.
I tore a part my evo lte when replacing the screen. The DNA looks like it was designed by brilliant engineers. The evo, in comparison, looks like it was designed by a carpenter.
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No LEDs.. It appears to be a strip of Electroluminescent Paper or a bit LCD back-lighting without the LCD-ness. My bet is on the latter.
(Sorry, by this point everything is glued to hell... so I had to move to destructive disassembly)
Hope this helped!
Cheers,
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There are LEDs, they just are not on the LCD assembly, they are on the front side of the speaker board on bottom. I took my DNA apart and posted pictures of it all a while ago on droidforums, i posted link bellow, you can see the LEDs (there is two of them) on the front side picture of the speaker board which goes on bottom.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...230676-htc-dna-disassembly-teardown-done.html
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There are LEDs, they just are not on the LCD assembly, they are on the front side of the speaker board on bottom. I took my DNA apart and posted pictures of it all a while ago on droidforums, i posted link bellow, you can see the LEDs (there is two of them) on the front side picture of the speaker board which goes on bottom.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...230676-htc-dna-disassembly-teardown-done.html
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Is this what I'm supposed to be looking at?
http://s8.postimage.org/wu97wki5h/2012_11_24_14_09_39_128.jpg
Look at this photo.. the LCD covers up pretty much the whole area and would block anything coming from the speaker assembly. How would it shine through?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1639055&d=1358014101
I feel like that what this piece is for?
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...e0584da09/50f3058a/1/6/3/9/0/6/0/DSC05692.jpg
but I've got all this white goo there..
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Is this what I'm supposed to be looking at?
http://s8.postimage.org/wu97wki5h/2012_11_24_14_09_39_128.jpg
Look at this photo.. the LCD covers up pretty much the whole area and would block anything coming from the speaker assembly. How would it shine through?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1639055&d=1358014101
I feel like that what this piece is for?
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...e0584da09/50f3058a/1/6/3/9/0/6/0/DSC05692.jpg
but I've got all this white goo there..
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yes the first picture you linked is correct. Those two leds on bottom are the LEDs for the touch buttons. Trust me the light goes through lol, that bluish white film or whatever color it is, is tinted and light passes through it. Try holding a flash light behind it. They tint it so the light doesnt just shine right through and look ugly, this way it has a even spread and isnt blinding. Even though id rather have mine a little brighter.
I was able to adjust their brightness with this app..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ubmV2b2QubG9nZ3JhcGgiXQ..
Don't think they're maxed out with the default settings.
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So I cracked the glass on my DNA So I decided to take the opportunity to show everyone the inside of the DNA
I still have all the parts, so if anyone wants specific shots let me know.
P.S. Do we think the yellow gasket and white goo = waterproofing?
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yes, the yellow gasket is for waterproofing. wondering if you would be willing to part with any of the parts for some s-off work
LoL. Neeevverrmiinnndd
is it possible to separate the lcd from glass without damaging it? my glass is shattered,but lcd is fine.
mine is also broken and i am just about to order the digitizer only, is it possible to replace only the digitizer?
Looking at these made me glance at my phone and I noticed.. My camera isn't centered on the back!! WHAT?!?! LoL
How hard is it to just remove and re attach the rear housing? my rear notification LED doesn't work and I want to fix it.
Anybody with a white Z2 noticed that the white plastic edges around the seems are no longer white or less white compared to the time it was brand new out of the box?
Personally the seems on my Z2 look a little grayish. :/
Is there any plastic?? I thought it is a painted aluminium...
cedropol said:
Is there any plastic?? I thought it is a painted aluminium...
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The seems(edges) are colored plastic. :/ Those are losing color. Aluminium is in the middle.
Although I don't think it is plastic, in black version it is clearly painted aluminum...which will rub away in time I suppose. But - let the owners of white items speak.
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Is there any plastic?? I thought it is a painted aluminium...
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It's an aluminium frame with plastic injection, so they have the metal surround and a metal chassis and then to hold it all together, they use an injection mould for the rest of it.
Anybody going to actually answer the OP question?
I'm using a white Z2 and totally notice a colour change. I suspect it's due to general use and the fact that I mostly wear denim jeans.
Such are the woes of a white coloured device.
DeGozaru said:
Anybody going to actually answer the OP question?
I'm using a white Z2 and totally notice a colour change. I suspect it's due to general use and the fact that I mostly wear denim jeans.
Such are the woes of a white coloured device.
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Seems to be from the general use here, washed it twice too. I do not see any colors residue on it, although I wear denims too but it might be issue with only some brands of jeans?
P.S. You can see here, that's the color my Z2 has now. :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7kaC6Gx8s
Note that I'm not talking of the staining issue, I don't have that. I'm talking about the color of the plastic wearing off. You can see it in the above video that the white Z2 has grayish edges and it has been used a little.
These have pure white edges(as it comes out of the box) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20sczbwIKQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0PbMte43A
KyleSforza said:
Anybody with a white Z2 noticed that the white plastic edges around the seems are no longer white or less white compared to the time it was brand new out of the box?
Personally the seems on my Z2 look a little grayish. :/
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Are you going to replace a new one？
It is out of warranty.
My white Z2 doesn't lose colour. It is white like in the first day of use and I have it for 1 week. I first was scared about this, but no. It doesn't lose the colour. I also use blue jeans. Maybe after some longer time it will lose colour.
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Mine doesnt lose color, but it began staining after few weeks in blue jeans, luckily a bath did the trick, good as new now.
It is too early to tell, I only had it for 5 days, I will report back if I see any thing weird.
All I ever see in the Z2 threads are complaints :S is this phone really that messed up?
Really wanted this phone but I may go for the S5 since there are SO many issues :/ ffs
Well, seems like it was just indoor issue. Went out, and it still shines white and bright! :laugh:
AndroidInsanity said:
All I ever see in the Z2 threads are complaints :S is this phone really that messed up?
Really wanted this phone but I may go for the S5 since there are SO many issues :/ ffs
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I have a black one and have none or the issues that people complain about, overheating lag or defects. Out of the probably hundreds of thousands of people there's only a handful of complaints here so that's not something you should be scared of, if anything there's always warranty.
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Yes after using it for few days I recognized that the plastic part actually picked up some colors from my jeans, etc.
So I washed it with soap and it looked new again until I dropped it hard in parking lot, trying to get out of my car without realizing I placed my z2 on my lap while I was driving.
It has some scratches and chips on the side but it still looks beautiful and I am not going to ruin it by using covers!
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As title.
Have a look at video.
Pressure marks on screen.
Second Z ultra thats doing this. First one I had right fun and games with a certain repairer.
Here it is. Do I live with it or send it back?
Thanks for your time ladies and gents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLoJhiefOo
Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
blueether said:
I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
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I think so. But it shouldn`t happen. But then again, the technology was cutting edge. Maybe the Z2 Ultra won`t have these problems.
I have OCD and it really bothers me. Too picky I know but would like it right. I haven`t lost hope with Sony products at all, just think that with something cutting edge there will be flaws...