so I'm looking to get a smartwatch and am trying to decide between the zenwatch 2 and moto 360 gen1. I've read a lot of threads on the moto 360 about firmware issues after the latest update. so if you had to decide, would you go with the zenwatch 2 or moto 360 knowing that you may have issues with the moto 360?
Zw2. The first gen moto has an older TI processor, much slower overall. There is another forum were this has been asked and that was one if the big things. A lot comes to personal preference as well, do prefer round or square?
this kinda says it all as well:
"would you go with the zenwatch 2 or moto 360 knowing that you may have issues with the moto 360?"
I own both a Moto 360 (1st gen) and a Gear 2 (running AW), just to compare them what I like best.
Both watches have their positive and negative points, so you need to look for them and check your personal likings.
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Zw2. The first gen moto has an older TI processor, much slower overall. There is another forum were this has been asked and that was one if the big things. A lot comes to personal preference as well, do prefer round or square?
this kinda says it all as well:
"would you go with the zenwatch 2 or moto 360 knowing that you may have issues with the moto 360?"
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I prefer a round face, but that can be overcome with a custom round watchface. What draws me to the zenwatch 2 is more the price point and it is a bit faster than the moto 360. I was just curious if ZW2 users have experienced more issues with it than it's worth.
I've had mine for about 2 weeks. Average 2 days battery with screen always on. No issues to speak of yet!
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I've had mine for about 2 weeks. Average 2 days battery with screen always on. No issues to speak of yet!
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are you making your own watch faces or getting them from the market? does the zw2 drain your phone battery any faster having to have bluetooth on all the time?
i'm currently using Pujie Black and Instaweather. haven't gotten into making my own aside from customizing Pujie. i never used BT prior to this but have notice no real effect on my Note 4.
Bought the original Moto 360 as soon as it was released. It was such a piece of junk I returned it within the week. The ZW2 is so much faster and better made... amazing they can offer this for under $150.
I bought my ZW2 over my Moto 360 Gen1, which I had for about 8 or 9 months. No regrets.
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I bought my Moto G 4G a couple of days ago and was wondering if I made the right choice - I can still send it back. Are there any reviews available on the E2 yet? I haven't found any.
How is the display, compared to the Moto G? The resolution is obviously worse, but how about brightness and viewing angles? Is it a bad compromise compared to the Moto G?
battery - would make a difference for me. The Moto E2 will probably be noticeably better, right?
The camera doesn't have a flash - but does it really make a huge difference? The camera in the Moto G is just bad.
I guess the processor won't make a huge difference
the Moto G is already quite old - the E2 will receive updates for a longer time I guess.
Maybe someone can just share their general view on this topic. I'm really happy with the Moto G so far, and usually that's all that counts. But you know how it is with that stuff...
Thanks!
Note: By Moto E, I'm referring to the second generation.
Display: The Moto E display is a bit lower resolution, but not bad at all. You can't see the pixels unless you hold it right up to your face. Brightness and viewing angles are good. Both have IPS LCD displays.
Battery: Moto E will probably be better. Both have good battery life.
Camera: I don't know if you care about the flash. Rear camera on Moto E is usable but not great. At least it is much better than the first gen E. Front camera on the new E is rubbish. I don't know much about the Moto G 4G camera, but it is probably a bit better than the second gen E.
Processor: The Cortex A53 is a significant improvement over the A7. It's around 40-50% faster. Once it gets 5.1, the new Moto E will be really snappy, trust me. Even as is on 5.0, it runs very well, better than the G.
Updates: Yes, I'd reckon that the Moto E will receive updates for years to come, while the Moto G 4G will probably be approaching EOL after it gets 5.0.
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Note: By Moto E, I'm referring to the second generation.
Display: The Moto E display is a bit lower resolution, but not bad at all. You can't see the pixels unless you hold it right up to your face. Brightness and viewing angles are good. Both have IPS LCD displays.
Battery: Moto E will probably be better. Both have good battery life.
Camera: I don't know if you care about the flash. Rear camera on Moto E is usable but not great. At least it is much better than the first gen E. Front camera on the new E is rubbish. I don't know much about the Moto G 4G camera, but it is probably a bit better than the second gen E.
Processor: The Cortex A53 is a significant improvement over the A7. It's around 40-50% faster. Once it gets 5.1, the new Moto E will be really snappy, trust me. Even as is on 5.0, it runs very well, better than the G.
Updates: Yes, I'd reckon that the Moto E will receive updates for years to come, while the Moto G 4G will probably be approaching EOL after it gets 5.0.
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Thanks for your reply. So it sounds like a sure thing for you, if you don't care about the camera. I just ordered the E2 on Amazon, so I'll directly compare them on Friday. Thank god Amazon is so nice when it comes to returning things.
I've had my ME2 (Mote E 2nd Gen) for just over a day now, and I can honestly say it's well worth it. It doesn't feel cheap, is very snappy (no lag at all that I've come across), has a great display even if it isn't "high" resolution, and is very easy to use with "pure" Android as compared to TouchWiz or Sense. I also have a Note 3 with 5.0, and I actually prefer the Moto. The screen size is just right for me. I think anything over 5" is too big (for me) like the Note as I have small hands, but the 4.5" screen doesn't hinder use even being over an inch smaller that I've been using.
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I've had my ME2 (Mote E 2nd Gen) for just over a day now, and I can honestly say it's well worth it. It doesn't feel cheap, is very snappy (no lag at all that I've come across), has a great display even if it isn't "high" resolution, and is very easy to use with "pure" Android as compared to TouchWiz or Sense. I also have a Note 3 with 5.0, and I actually prefer the Moto. The screen size is just right for me. I think anything over 5" is too big (for me) like the Note as I have small hands, but the 4.5" screen doesn't hinder use even being over an inch smaller that I've been using.
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agreed its a great device for the price.
I am planning to buy a new smartphone. So should I go for Moto E 2nd Gen or Moto G 2nd Gen?
Note: Battery backup matters a lot for me.
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I am planning to buy a new smartphone. So should I go for Moto E 2nd Gen or Moto G 2nd Gen?
Note: Battery backup matters a lot for me.
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id say get the moto e 2nd and wait for the rumored moto g 2015 with lte. as soon as moto drops source for this phone i see development taking off.
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I am planning to buy a new smartphone. So should I go for Moto E 2nd Gen or Moto G 2nd Gen?
Note: Battery backup matters a lot for me.
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The LTE version is already released in Germany (199 €). I'd say this is really a question of if you like the bigger screen...
Edit: Just found a decent review of the Moto E2: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/03/review-the-new-moto-e-is-the-most-phone-you-can-get-for-150/1/
Motorolla has upgraded their Moto E to 2nd generation. Is this worth buying?
Yes bro it will be worth to upgraded because of improvement in camera department(autofocus) and there is also front facing camera also included.
Yes, it's a lot better than Moto E 1st, with a quad core proccy as well. But it's the ugliest phone I have ever seen. When held in hand, it seems as if we are holding it upside down, lel.
Don't know. Depends on your budget. My first gen works fine so i think 2nd gen should be good. All paper specs aside i think it is a nice and robust mobile unlike all the rest of the crowd. I mean you drop them once and they are dead. Dropped my moto e a hundred times but still working fine. Tried almost all the roms from slimkat to carbon to cm12 etc. etc. But still my moto e is sticking around with me with no softbricking. And it is my first android. I learned everything anout android on it. So for me moto e is the best budget phone so i think 2nd gen is worth an upgrade for selfie lovers, gamers without shedding much money. Only turn off is lack of flash.
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Just got the 360 46mm today. For some reasom, it feels like it lags, A LOT. Anyone else experiencing this? Wondering if I just have a bad unit
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My 46mm is also sluggish. I am wondering the same thing - I saw it in one review as well but most have not mentioned it. Is anyone else experiencing this at all? I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 and it has similar specs - but smooth as butter.
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I just bought mine yesterday. Updated it and charged it. It was lagging. I restarted it - and it seems smooth now. Have you tried that?
So I am going to return mine and see if the new one experiences the same lag. I would like to hear if anyone else has experienced this still. After a restart, it stops for a bit. I also tried unpairing, uninstalling wear from my phone (Note 5) and factory resetting. I have no apps installed. I factory reset 3 times in the past bit - also tried disabling and enabling Google Fit, Cloud Sync, and Wifi. It seems to start occurring after receiving a hangout or text message. The lag persists even after dismissing it on the device. It also persists if I disable bluetooth on my phone and let it run just as a disconnected device. I think that kind of rules out the phone. Other than the typical Google apps stock with android, my watch is also stock using the stock watch face. This is the 46mm - in case others come across this and need info.
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So I am going to return mine and see if the new one experiences the same lag
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Spotted this on the Motorola forums - I wonder is this what you're experiencing?
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/1a5cbb0aa8
This is exactly what I am experiencing. Thank you! Are others experiencing it or is it a dud? His fix seems to "fix" mine. Still annoying for a 400 buck device
Great that this fixed it! Yes, it is annoying - but hopefully something Motorola can fix with a software update. He says that others on Reddit have been reporting it, but I haven't been able to find that yet.
I found the reddit thread. I will just run with wrist turn on and ambient off. Things like this happen and Android Wear is still in its infancy. Such is life! Now where to report this...
https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/3ms7uc/2nd_gen_360_animations_and_interactions_not
Ah! So I'm not alone. Too bad I returned it. I am going to take a break from smart watches for now given with the not so great experience with the Gear S2 and the new 360. I'm going to wait for the new urbane and see what LG is cooking up
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Ah! So I'm not alone. Too bad I returned it. I am going to take a break from smart watches for now given with the not so great experience with the Gear S2 and the new 360. I'm going to wait for the new urbane and see what LG is cooking up
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What happened with the s2?
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What happened with the s2?
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S Voice, it is terrible. Notifications on the watch would be like 3 minutes late sometimes and just a few minor annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it, the watch is lag free unlike AW and battery life is awesome, but I honestly don't think it's worth $300
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No issues like this on my 42 mm.
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S Voice, it is terrible. Notifications on the watch would be like 3 minutes late sometimes and just a few minor annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it, the watch is lag free unlike AW and battery life is awesome, but I honestly don't think it's worth $300
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Sounds a little like this video (although it's the S2 vs the original 360) - might give you a laugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqwiwZMwtE
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S Voice, it is terrible. Notifications on the watch would be like 3 minutes late sometimes and just a few minor annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it, the watch is lag free unlike AW and battery life is awesome, but I honestly don't think it's worth $300
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Thank you for the feedback.
To be honest, I really love the moving ring the s2 has... It must be so easy to navigate the clock's functions...
I'm quite decided to get one eventually... I live in Argentina, and there's no release date yet... It might take a while...
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Glad to know I'm not going crazy here. I thought it was doing exactly that, but I wasn't too motivated to look into it. I was just thinking about returning my 46mm. It definitely seems better after turning the always-on display off.
Yes, it's definitenly not perfectly smooth for me either (have 46mm version).
In several reviews it is said that Huawei Watch for example is much smoother compared to Moto 360 v2. Which is weird since both have the same processor and Huawei have even higher screen resolution.
So for me this is definitely an optimization issue, which was not properly resolved by Motorola yet. But I hope it will be in future updates.
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Yes, it's definitenly not perfectly smooth for me either (have 46mm version).
In several reviews it is said that Huawei Watch for example is much smoother compared to Moto 360 v2. Which is weird since both have the same processor and Huawei have even higher screen resolution.
So for me this is definitely an optimization issue, which was not properly resolved by Motorola yet. But I hope it will be in future updates.
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I have same problem with my 360 46mm.
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haha yup. got mine yesterday, noticed it was sluggish and i was like, wtf, my Gear 2 ghetto running Wear wasn't this slow....then i turned it off, and bam, works fine now. they need to get on this. this is ridiculous.
We are keyboard developers for Smartwatches, lagging is one of our major research topic for our user experience for our TouchOne Keyboard. We have tested with all the Android smartwatch in the market. I agreed with you that Moto 360 2nd 46 is much lagging compared with 42 mm. This is technically proven in our result that Moto 46 mm is much slower than the Moto 42 mm. We couldn't find a reason for that since they have both the same spec.
Also, Sony Smartwatch 3 is the best responding square watch in the market based in our test result.
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I agreed with you that Moto 360 2nd 46 is much lagging compared with 42 mm. This is technically proven in our result that Moto 46 mm is much slower than the Moto 42 mm. We couldn't find a reason for that since they have both the same spec.
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That's very interesting - I have been wondering about the lag that has been reported, because I have a 42mm and can't say I have really experienced any. Using Pujie Black with 'Ambient' or 'Always On' On.
yeah, i don't use always on, but my 46mm seems laggy now.
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Hey there
I know this is a topic that has been discussed a thousand times over, but I'm leaning more towards the Moto 360 which is why I came to this forum.
Before yesterday, I did not have any understanding whatsoever on what a smartwatch does or is useful for. I started reading up about Android Wear, Tizen, and WatchOS, and it would seem like WatchOS is the best when it comes to applications and iPhone integration among them. I own an iPhone 6 Plus and that is my biggest issue with anything besides the Apple Watch, however I'm not really into the whole smartwatch idea for pure functionality, but rather for the variety in watch-faces, designs, and as a change from the boring, old, and traditional watches.
I must say I absolutely hate the way the Apple Watch looks which is why it is out of my consideration, so my research was narrowed down to both the Moto 360 2nd Gen vs the Samsung Gear S2. What do you guys think? I have looked at some of the watch-faces available for the Moto 360 and they look outstanding, and if I'm not mistaken there are a lot more options than on the S2?
In terms of functionality, are there any huge differences between them? Performance, battery, responsiveness, compatibility with iOS, and such? We don't have a lot of variants here in Egypt, the only ones I could find were the 46mm Moto and the Gear S2 Classic. Oh by the way, is the 46mm too big? I don't have a tiny wrist or anything but I'm not a fan of really big, bulky watches.
Thank you for your time and help, I truly appreciate it.
Samsung Gear S2 won't work with an iPhone. So decision made there. Also you can't (right now) get all the watch faces on for the Moto 360 on iPhone. Just the defaults and a few Google add to the iOS app. Changing with wear 2.0 but thats not out yet.
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So I really like the new moto z, I would like to get one i was told that i can use the device with other carriers however the only thing stopping me right now is that i have heard that Droid phones are notoriously slow with Android update so is that true?
Because if it's true i will just wait for an unlocked version or pick up a note 7
If you're not on Verizon I would wait fwiw.
Definitely go for the note 7. It's really better than Moto Z. Just watch comparison video and you'll get to choose the note 7
I can't wait for Nougat but I hope it's not forever
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Definitely go for the note 7. It's really better than Moto Z. Just watch comparison video and you'll get to choose the note 7
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I was looking at alot of videos however the durability of the note 7 is really a concern to me i have seen alot of people talking about how is it gets scratched, I know that i can use cases and screen protectors however I love to use phones as is
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I was looking at alot of videos however the durability of the note 7 is really a concern to me i have seen alot of people talking about how is it gets scratched, I know that i can use cases and screen protectors however I love to use phones as is
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And now the exploding battery. Returned my note 7 today and bought the Moto Z. I'm on T-Mobile by the way and it works perfectly.
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I was looking at alot of videos however the durability of the note 7 is really a concern to me i have seen alot of people talking about how is it gets scratched, I know that i can use cases and screen protectors however I love to use phones as is
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not to forget the bad real life perfoemance:
http://www.xda-developers.com/with-...delivers-embarrassing-real-world-performance/
http://www.xda-developers.com/in-response-to-the-verge-why-we-fretted-about-the-note-7s-performance/
Samsung is recalling the note 7 :laugh: i just ordered one today in the morning I guess I am returning, and i think am getting a Moto z from Verizon, let the update come whenever even though I would love to have the unlocked version but I really want to get my hands on it and play with some mods, but wow Samsung will surely fire some people over what happened this battery thing is going to do some major damage since the next google phones are coming not to mention iPhone i feel sorry for them they tried really hard this year however safety and build quality comes first
This recall would be 1000% easier and cheaper if the Note 7 had a removable battery.
I returned my note 7 last week for a moto Z force. This phone here is very smooth, not laggy like the note 7. Even if it is slow to get updates the phone is still very smooth and quality.
Ironically enough the Z and Z Force got the September security update on Verizon today.
Of course they will, once I updated QQ my phong ran like ****, I have to download a debloated version to make my phone normal