Hey guys! I'm planning to buy a tablet for mainly for gaming. Just to mention, the SDcard slot isn't a biggie for me since 16gb would be enough.
I know that the Tegra K1 is powerful, especially for gaming, but I'm also seeing some good feedback with the 2nd gen's Intel performance. I'm leaning towards the 1st gen due to the Tegra chip, but I'm not sure how the Intel chip would perform against the Tegra K1. So I got just one question that would be a deal maker/breaker for me.. Game performance-wise, is the Mi Pad 2 better at games versus the 1st gen Mi pad? Or does the Tegra chip outclass the Intel chip on framerate and game stability?
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Are there other 7.9-8" tablets around that price point that are good/better at gaming? Please don't suggest the Shield. It's extremely rare to find one here.
miki117 said:
Hey guys! I'm planning to buy a tablet for mainly for gaming. Just to mention, the SDcard slot isn't a biggie for me since 16gb would be enough.
I know that the Tegra K1 is powerful, especially for gaming, but I'm also seeing some good feedback with the 2nd gen's Intel performance. I'm leaning towards the 1st gen due to the Tegra chip, but I'm not sure how the Intel chip would perform against the Tegra K1. So I got just one question that would be a deal maker/breaker for me.. Game performance-wise, is the Mi Pad 2 better at games versus the 1st gen Mi pad? Or does the Tegra chip outclass the Intel chip on framerate and game stability?
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Are there other 7.9-8" tablets around that price point that are good/better at gaming? Please don't suggest the Shield. It's extremely rare to find one here.
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forget any decent gaming on mi pad 2 the intel gpu(12 eu) cant keep up even with mild games. The original mi pad is still pretty solid for gaming. Even the atom x7 is no match for gpu in k1.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9219/the-surface-3-review/6
(note on android the scores will be slightly higher but performance would be the same)
Oh, alright, thanks! The mi pad 1 is using miui 7 already, right? I'm also seeing some threads in miui that compared to the shield, mi pad is kinda lagging. Is that true?
Hi mipad user here . Gaming on this tablet is excellent but expect some overheating . can't compare it to a shield cuz I don't have one . but I think a shield will play games better cuz it has more optimised software . yeah buying this tab expect not much software support from xiaomi . you will get updates for miui but those updates are features that should have been on the OS when this tab was launched . I suggest if you can buy shield buy it but if your on a budget buy this tab . also can't compare it to mipad 2 cuz I haven't used one also but I think the windows version is interesting . also if you ever buy a mipad I suggest flashing a custom ROM cuz miu7 on mipad is not on par with miui 7 on other mi devices .
guys is mi pad 1 having update to lollipop yet?
Based on this http://xiaomiadvices.com/list-of-phones-getting-miui-7-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update/
its on the list , btw fellow users do you guys experience anything such as undetectable SD card or unable to use OTG ??
No.. MI pad 1 is still 4.4..yet it is far better then the pad 2
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My daughter has saved up some money and is interested in getting a tablet to play with on holiday etc. Due to her young age I'm sure games will be a big deal. I have been looking at the Versus Touchpad 7 tablet which seems remarkably good value, but there was one comment on PC World's feedback that worries and makes be curious
"If you are purching this for kids and they want to download well known games from the Google Play store beware - many do not work with it, e.g. most EA games e.g. Fifa 2012, Monopoly, plus PES 2012, and the support you get from Google play or the game manufacturers in little to none."
The device has ICS and comes with Google Play, and it has an ARM Cortex A8 processor.
Why would these games not work? is it true? How do you choose an ICS tablet if it's that complicated?
thanks
It's because they all have different GPU's like PowerVR, Mali and Tegra and some Games only work with certain GPUs unless you Root and use Chainfire 3D, and I know it's annoying but that's just the way it is.
It is not usually that difficult, if a tablet has a decent gpu and at least 1 ghz cpu with one gig ram it will be fine for most games.
The problem is that the specific tablet you refer to is a low budget model that can be found rebranded by various companies and to keep costs low they use a very old not very good gpu.
Because high end games need a decent gpu to handle all the high quality graphics the lower end tablets aren't compatible because the gpu hasn't the raw power needed.
They are fine for everyday use but for games you need a recent gpu as, when gaming, this part of the tablet works the hardest and so needs to be powerful.
For the same price as the tablet you mentioned you could buy the much better specced ainol novo elf II which has a dual core cpu and a quad core mali 400 gpu and that would play the games much better.
You could even go for the budget priced Nexus 7 that has the state of the art tegra 3 gpu which is the best available gpu for android devices.
Dave
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Thanks for the advice. I hate to say it but I think she might be happier with a Nintendo DS, and I am told that they are a lot more robust. She's only 8. The Nexus 7 doesn't seem widely (cheaply) available in the UK yet. It annoys me that a DS is as expensive as a tablet but at her age I think she only really wants games, particularly nintendogs.
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Thanks for the advice. I hate to say it but I think she might be happier with a Nintendo DS, and I am told that they are a lot more robust. She's only 8. The Nexus 7 doesn't seem widely (cheaply) available in the UK yet. It annoys me that a DS is as expensive as a tablet but at her age I think she only really wants games, particularly nintendogs.
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The ds can be strong although in the past few years my ten year old has broken quite a few.
With the ds you can buy the lite version, or even original, which makes it a lot cheaper if you need to replace it.
As for the The Nexus 7 it will always be around £160 because it is sold by google pretty much at cost so won't come down in price unfortunately.
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I spent a couple of hours with my daughter in PC world playing with the Nexus 7. There are a ton of games but they just didn't seem to engage her the way that the DS games did. A Nexus 7 is £200 on the high street but to be honest a DS with a couple of games is just as much. She has been saving for a year for a DS and now is really enjoying it so I guess that's okay.
The tip about the ainol novo elf II is very interesting. Maybe I will have to find an excuse to buy one.
If I had been a bit more organised she could have had a used DS and an Novo Elf II with the money she had but we need it to go away on holiday and I just left it too late. Oh well. Thanks for the replies.
Hi. I want A tablet and I was thinking to wait for tegra 4, but finally I think I will buy tegra 3 device. And here comes my question.
1. Which of transformers has the best performance? (There are severall Tegra 3 chipsets)
2. Is FULL-HD version worst performance? (I mean it has to proces more graphics or there is no change)
3. Which version is the most supported.
What are the other difference and what do you recomannd
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Hi. I want A tablet and I was thinking to wait for tegra 4, but finally I think I will buy tegra 3 device. And here comes my question.
1. Which of transformers has the best performance? (There are severall Tegra 3 chipsets)
2. Is FULL-HD version worst performance? (I mean it has to proces more graphics or there is no change)
3. Which version is the most supported.
What are the other difference and what do you recomannd
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It depends on what you want it for really.
I own both the prime 201 with dock and the nexus 7.
If you want the dock then I'd suggest waiting for the t700 which will have none of the wifi/gps problems that the 201 has and shouldn't have the IO problem either.
If you don't need the dock and don't mind the 7 inch screen then I would get a nexus 7 because it is the same power but for a third of the price.
Go for the TF700 or the TF300... the major differences are that Asus fixed some of the common kinks people faced with the TF201... performance-wise (other than maybe I/O), the devices are generally on par... the TF201 & TF700 have IPS+ panels, the TF300 has an IPS panel.... IPS+ means higher brightness (good for outdoors).... I don't believe the FHD display in the TF700 will make a big difference... but there will be some difference... the Nexus 7 is also similar, but smaller screen size and easier to mod without worrying too much about warranty...
Thanks. I think I will buy TF700. It will be on top for next 4 months. It hits the IPAD 3 prize with better GPU, but it is apple so F**K OFF. I think Infinity is great choise. I can use it for next 3 years not getting bored.
Hi,
I have a dilemma what to buy xperia tablet z2 or Nvidia shield tablet which one would you prefer or wait for the IFA 2014 please I would like to know your opinion.:roll eyes: I love Sony but Nvidia talk to my gaming addiction
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M
marcoplo said:
Hi,
I have a dilemma what to buy xperia tablet z2 or Nvidia shield tablet which one would you prefer or wait for the IFA 2014 please I would like to know your opinion.:roll eyes: I love Sony but Nvidia talk to my gaming addiction
Regards
M
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I was about to take xperia z2 tablet but there are threads in xda supporting the cons i mentioned below , so i myself am waiting.
Xperia z2
cons : slight bend after few weeks of usage , creaking sounds, low build quality, touch screen issues
pros : sleek and light weight , snapdragon 801 , waterproof (low build quality destroys it tho) , larger screen
nvidia shield will be available from 29th july why not wait a week and decide after you read its reviews too.
Things to observe in NVIDIA SHIELD reviews
Heat , battery life , stylus performance , UI lag
marcoplo said:
Hi,
I have a dilemma what to buy xperia tablet z2 or Nvidia shield tablet which one would you prefer or wait for the IFA 2014 please I would like to know your opinion.:roll eyes:
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My Z2 tablet works like a charm. I have no problems, except of the occasional touch issues. It's not a deal breaker, though. Also I'd simply install CM if I wouldn't be satisfied with the stock ROM.
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Don't expect too much of Nvidia:
You can connect a PS3 controller on the Z2, too. I use the sixaxis controller app, but there is an app from Sony installed per default, too.
Almost all Android games are optimized for the Snapdragon SoCs because of Nvidia's miniscule market share. Tegra zone apps are the only ones which are Nvidia-optimized, but lately there were not much new games released AFAIK.
I had the TF201 and TF700. Especially Gameloft games were running on low settings, even back then when the tablet was new. Of course you can try out GLTools, but it's hit and miss.
The shield of course also has its strengths, but don't assume that Android games run better than on a Snapdragon 801.
When I look at Nvidia's track regarding their SoCs, I am pessimistic about their future market share. Hence I expect not much games to be Nvidia-optimized. That's why I wanted the Snapdragon 801 and nothing else.
Of course I dislike monoplies and wish Nvidia the best, but realistically I cannot see them succeeding.
BabelHuber said:
My Z2 tablet works like a charm. I have no problems, except of the occasional touch issues. It's not a deal breaker, though. Also I'd simply install CM if I wouldn't be satisfied with the stock ROM.
Don't expect too much of Nvidia:
You can connect a PS3 controller on the Z2, too. I use the sixaxis controller app, but there is an app from Sony installed per default, too.
Almost all Android games are optimized for the Snapdragon SoCs because of Nvidia's miniscule market share. Tegra zone apps are the only ones which are Nvidia-optimized, but lately there were not much new games released AFAIK.
I had the TF201 and TF700. Especially Gameloft games were running on low settings, even back then when the tablet was new. Of course you can try out GLTools, but it's hit and miss.
The shield of course also has its strengths, but don't assume that Android games run better than on a Snapdragon 801.
When I look at Nvidia's track regarding their SoCs, I am pessimistic about their future market share. Hence I expect not much games to be Nvidia-optimized. That's why I wanted the Snapdragon 801 and nothing else.
Of course I dislike monoplies and wish Nvidia the best, but realistically I cannot see them succeeding.
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Thx for the balance response, I have not made my decision yet, I have been using Sony for ages, I willing to test something new, the only thing that worries me is the fact that android games aren;t working as great as I would image e.i gameloft. I will not buy it until finishing my master degree, otherwise i will go nuts...
Touch issues pretty much gone after latest update. And I for one have zero build issues. Some people do but what's the bet some people do on the shield as well.
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Hello now that both the z2 and nvidia shield have been out for a while what are your thoughts and experiences on both devices please?
Hi all, first of all I hope this is the right section (forgive me mods and admins if not.) Secondly I'm looking to buy a tablet running Nvidia hardware for their optimized games and since I'm a Google fanboy the nexus 9 is at the top of my wishlist. I was just wondering as far as hardware goes, which is faster? I know they have the same processor and gpu but the nexus 9's is 64 bit which will make it the winner right? Also is the nexus 9's Kepler GPU on par with the Shield tablets Kepler GPU, and does the Nexus 9 have all the optimizations and benefits of the Nvidia Tablet?
How much do you have to spend? At this stage, if I didn't have a n9 already, I'd be looking into the Google Pixel C
Sadley I'm on a 300$ budget. I know what you mean, the Pixcel C looks like the tablet to have for a power user but I won't have the resources sadley.
I have both the N9 & the Shield tab. IMO the Shield is the better device. This doesn't mean that the N9 is a bad one. But for pure media consumtion like watching movies, videos and ofcourse playing games go for the Shield. In games the Shield performs better and you will never notice any heat. Its also near stock and latest 5.1.1 runs really great. As for flashing roms its not the best option, but you see N9 has also not alot.
But as always its your choice
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I have both the N9 & the Shield tab. IMO the Shield is the better device. This doesn't mean that the N9 is a bad one. But for pure media consumtion like watching movies, videos and ofcourse playing games go for the Shield. In games the Shield performs better and you will never notice any heat. Its also near stock and latest 5.1.1 runs really great. As for flashing roms its not the best option, but you see N9 has also not alot.
But as always its your choice
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Can you even get the Shield Tablet anymore? I thought it was recalled due to fire concerns and has since been taken off market
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Can you even get the Shield Tablet anymore? I thought it was recalled due to fire concerns and has since been taken off market
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Ofcourse you can. Although mine was also an unit wich had those type of battery i never had any issues. But now i got a new one from N'vidia and have 2.
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Ofcourse you can. Although mine was also an unit wich had those type of battery i never had any issues. But now i got a new one from N'vidia and have 2.
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I haven't seen any reputable stores sell it anymore. It's off Amazon, Newegg, and even Nvidia's site now.
Thanks for the reply! Will consider when buying! Can you explain why the Shield Tablet isn't the best for flashing? That's usually what I like in a device but I can reconsider because I'm looking at these at a gaming tablet standpoint.
Nexus 9 has a lot of problems. I have my 2nd tablet and its still messed up.
EDIT: I managed to find a used one for half that price, so I jumped at it!
Hi!
I found a local dealer who still has a few brand new Mi Pad 1 in stock for about $250.
Is that a good price, and is it worth getting 2019?
If I buy one it will be mainly for gaming (emulators to be more specific). I wanted to pick up a Nvidia Shield K1, but they seem rather expensive for a pre owned one, and a Xiaomi Mi Pad is internally pretty much the same thing, right?
I dont think it is a good choice in 2019 and that too for 250 dollar is too much i bought it 3 yrs back (brand new) for 10000 inr that's arround 140.45 dollars. I would say rather go look for mi pad 4 or any new ipads. As far as gamming goes nah drivers are not too much optimised hence poor performance like you will get 20-25 fps in pubg with everything set to lowest with gfx tool and custom rom (nvidia shield blobs which in my opinion is the fastest available for this thing)
I paid $80 for mine pre owned, wouldn't much more than that even for a 64gb model.
$250??? Oh my God，Profiteer！！！
Go for Mi Pad 4. Treble support, SD 660 and stable Pie for $250
In general it would definitely be a bad idea but if you just want to play low power emulators like NES and all then you could go for it. But don't expect good performance from emulators like dolphin and PPSSPP. also, I would recommend you install a shield blobs based rom as soon as you get your device.