Hello, how's it going everybody? Long time reader here, first time poster. After doing countless hours of research that which didn't turn up any conclusive results, I'm turning to the Android Gods.
Here's the situation:
1) I'm on the starving student budget and attempting to create a network as efficiently as possible.
2) I have 4 rooted Android devices: Sony Xperia E3, Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime G530W, Galaxy S4 I337M (i9505 CM13 ROM flashed), Galaxy Tab 3 (CM13 ROM flashed).
3) I have a Linksys WRT54G router with DD-WRT flashed.
4) I have a desktop PC (Ubuntu), a laptop (Ubuntu), and a soft-modded PS2.
The goal is as stated in the subject title of the thread. Currently, with USB tethering on either of the Samsung devices, I am able to tether a Wifi connection to my desktop PC. My desktop PC doesn't have a wireless adapter to connect to the wireless network, and I was able to determine that Android can tether a Wifi connection over USB.
What I am hoping to do is use USB tethering in order to tether this existing Wifi network from the Android device to the WRT54G router and create another network. A piggyback if you will. From what I've researched, I know the following options exist:
1) Buy a router with an existing USB port
2) Bridge the connection from the PC to the router (huge electricity costs)
3) Buy a Raspberry Pi and bridge as above (less of a power drain)
4) Solder USB ports into the router (will only handle USB 1.1)
5) Put the router in Repeater/Repeater Bridge Mode (cuts speeds in half) Client/Client Bridge Mode (only provides LAN connections - no Wifi)
What I am trying to determine, and have been unsuccessful in doing so, is whether a simple MicroUsb to RJ45 adapter leading into the router's WAN port while USB tethering will simply do the job. The question has been asked a few times (going by Google searches here), but no one has provided a definite answer as to whether this works, USB-OTG or not.
I'm unsure as to whether the router will require a specific kernel or driver, (I've only been able to find information on USB tethering to a DD-WRT router that has native USB ports) or whether it'll work right out of the box. If it were to light up stating that it has a network connection, that would be fantastic, but I'm not quite an expert on the topic and don't have the resources to spend on a failed experiment.
If anyone knows the answer to this question, please let me know. Again, I'm trying to do this as cost efficient as possible, starving student here. If there's another possible solution that I haven't pointed out or considered, please go ahead and specify it. It'll be much appreciated.
Can anyone shed any light on whether this is possible? Perhaps I should rephrase the question to, "Can someone with a Micro-usb to Ethernet adapter try this out and let me know if it works?"
Please and thanks
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This could possibly qualify as one of those non-existant stupid questions - but I wonder if I could use the XDA with a serial cable to connect to the console port of say a management switch or router, using some kind of terminal emulation software?
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Could you do this with the following adapter?
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Good Idea, Hope someone responds with a positive solution!
That's the solution. Simple as that. Serial cable. Depending on the way it's wired you may need a null modem adapter in addition. Then just fire up any terminal software on the PPC, set it for 9600 N,8,1, and you are on.
I've been carrying around base scripts for routers on a handheld for over 10 years so I can config a new router or restore an existing one in seconds. With Cisco IOS this is easy; not sure how well it would work for others, don't know them.
Raptor said:
Could you do this with the following adapter?
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Cable would need to be longer or you will have a bunch of disgruntled network engineers 8)
Im giving my wife my laptop now that I have a transformer and dock for it. Unfortunately occasionally with work, I am going to need to connect to a wired network connection. I was thinking about getting a USB wired (you know, RJ45) network dongle, but I doubt its going to work purely on the basis of driver support. Thoughts?
There is no support for USB network devices at this time. Your only option for network access is wifi.
Why is physical network access a necessity? Is it a security issue, or do you just not have a wifi access point nearby? If the latter, you can always purchase a mini wifi access point to connect to your ethernet cable, and then just use it in bridged mode.
Sometimes i need test a particular wired connection or maybe i need to configure a network device that doesnt have wireless access, etc.
As long as you configure it properly, you should be able to reliably test network connections and configure devices from a mini wifi access point, since it will basically pretend like your Transformer is physically connected on the same segment. It's a bit of a roundabout way to do it, but it's your only solution until USB network adapters are supported.
Edit: I forgot to mention a suggestion for a mini wifi access point. My favorite is the D-Link DAP-1350.
I'm pretty sure you can get miniature 'bridge' devices that plug into ethernet and present themselves as a mini access point via WiFi (The original xbox wireless adapter is basically this)
That way you can use the on board WiFi to connect to an ethernet network.
PhonicUK said:
I'm pretty sure you can get miniature 'bridge' devices that plug into ethernet and present themselves as a mini access point via WiFi (The original xbox wireless adapter is basically this)
That way you can use the on board WiFi to connect to an ethernet network.
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I have recently bought a device like you suggest here. Sapido RB-1602. It is quite small, and even better it can be powered by the Transformer usb port.
bridges can be a pain to work with, especially when the entire point of connecting to the wired connection was to troubleshoot it. Also, if I have to carry around something that large, i might as well have a laptop.
I'd be interested in this also. We can't have wireless at work, and I'd like to get internet on it.
This is on my list of to-dos, I have the same needs as the OP.
Kwjake said:
I'd be interested in this also. We can't have wireless at work, and I'd like to get internet on it.
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How is the network setup at the office? If there are no mac addy filtering or domain login requirement to obtain or use an IP you can setup your own wifi just don't broadcast the SSID. But if your admin has alerts setup for unknow devices using IP's they will shut it down or block it.
There are other android devices that use ethernet adapters so it can be done
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...blets/942-usb-enthernet-cable-connection.html
How about bluetooth to ethernet?
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1773
Here you go. Now is there support in Honeycomb for it?
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
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This looks like the same thing as above but on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/AGILER-RJ45-ADAPTER-NETWORK-COMPUTER/dp/B000BL3M3U
Ordered one, for less than $5 worth a try.
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This looks like the same thing as above but on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/AGILER-RJ45-ADAPTER-NETWORK-COMPUTER/dp/B000BL3M3U
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The important comment from the Amazon thread on that item is:
dm9601 chipset. Supported on Linux, but only very recent versions (2.6.21 or later).
Unfortunately not supported by the version of Linux included in latest Debian GNU/Linux release.
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So if you take the Linux kernel being used by the Honeycomb branch of Android, and recompile it to include this driver from the Linux trunk, maybe you could get it to recognize the device and "just work".
Maybe.
jmbneaf said:
Ordered one, for less than $5 worth a try.
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bump...did u give it a try?
DevCake said:
How is the network setup at the office? If there are no mac addy filtering or domain login requirement to obtain or use an IP you can setup your own wifi just don't broadcast the SSID. But if your admin has alerts setup for unknow devices using IP's they will shut it down or block it.
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I am the admin . We have an outside agency that scans for wireless (ssid or not).
ayman07 said:
bump...did u give it a try?
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yup - not recognized. If someone knew the kernel (updated it) & could get it to me, I would gladly try it.
~J
me too. similar situation.
Hi Folks,
Just an FYI if you're looking for wired networking on your Prime.
I have a stock TF201 running ICS (4.0.3). I've just tested a LinkSys USB200M (Version 2.1) USB to 10/100 baseT network adapter and I'm happy to say that it works seamlessly.
The Prime will give no indication of the device being plugged in nor of any networking (though it will show the wired IP address iff the WiFi is disabled or not connected), but networking comes up, and works. Additionally, you can also turn on the portable WiFi hotspot to share the wired network with other WiFi devices.
My testing currently only goes as far as connecting the adapter via the keyboard dock USB port - I've not tried it direct on the tablet via the USB adapter available from ASUS.
Handy to know given that you can pick up these adapters for ~£15 (mine was a freebie with my piano from Yamaha a couple of years ago, and now I finally have a use for it! )
EDIT: Just checked - it also works fine using the tablet with the USB adaptor available from ASUS. It appears that it does *not* work on the original TF101 Transformer though - the USB network adaptor powers up and the link lights come on, but the IP networking stack is not activated - I'll test again on ICS when the TF101 gets its update...
>The Prime will give no indication of the device being plugged in nor of any networking (though it will show the wired IP address iff the WiFi is disabled or not connected)
When both wired and wireless are enabled, which connection takes precedence? Or do you have to disable one for the other to work?
>It appears that it does *not* work on the original TF101 Transformer though
Quiethinker made a driver pack for TF101 w/ HC 3.2. Am assuming NIC support is an Asus value-add to the kernel for ICS, since official ICS update for Moto Xoom doesn't have it. Then, presumably TF101 will get same support w/ pending ICS update.
Would ask for someone to test a USB wifi adapter (and disable built-in wifi) to see if those are supported as well. It would partially solve the weak wifi situation for some.
bruisah said:
Hi Folks,
Just an FYI if you're looking for wired networking on your Prime.
I have a stock TF201 running ICS (4.0.3). I've just tested a LinkSys USB200M (Version 2.1) USB to 10/100 baseT network adapter and I'm happy to say that it works seamlessly.
The Prime will give no indication of the device being plugged in nor of any networking (though it will show the wired IP address iff the WiFi is disabled or not connected), but networking comes up, and works. Additionally, you can also turn on the portable WiFi hotspot to share the wired network with other WiFi devices.
My testing currently only goes as far as connecting the adapter via the keyboard dock USB port - I've not tried it direct on the tablet via the USB adapter available from ASUS.
Handy to know given that you can pick up these adapters for ~£15 (mine was a freebie with my piano from Yamaha a couple of years ago, and now I finally have a use for it! )
EDIT: Just checked - it also works fine using the tablet with the USB adaptor available from ASUS. It appears that it does *not* work on the original TF101 Transformer though - the USB network adaptor powers up and the link lights come on, but the IP networking stack is not activated - I'll test again on ICS when the TF101 gets its update...
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Where can the Linksys adapter be purchased?
jfranco328 said:
Where can the Linksys adapter be purchased?
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??? You have tried typing "linksys usb200m" into google, haven't you? ;-)
Overstock.com, for example, say they'll do one for ~£15.
There seem to be plenty second hand ones on the market too from around $8...
B.
e.mote said:
>The Prime will give no indication of the device being plugged in nor of any networking (though it will show the wired IP address iff the WiFi is disabled or not connected)
When both wired and wireless are enabled, which connection takes precedence? Or do you have to disable one for the other to work?
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I've not delved into which connection takes precedence when both WiFi and USB Wired are connected. Obviously, they both work simultaneously when using the Prime as a hotspot (certainly, you don't need to turn WiFi off, per se).
>It appears that it does *not* work on the original TF101 Transformer though
Quiethinker made a driver pack for TF101 w/ HC 3.2. Am assuming NIC support is an Asus value-add to the kernel for ICS, since official ICS update for Moto Xoom doesn't have it. Then, presumably TF101 will get same support w/ pending ICS update.
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I'll test this when ICS is released on the TF101 - this was my thinking too. I suspect it is an ICS benefit...
I'll let you know.
Would ask for someone to test a USB wifi adapter (and disable built-in wifi) to see if those are supported as well. It would partially solve the weak wifi situation for some.
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Again, I was thinking likewise. The only problem is, I don't know what drivers happen to be lurking in the ICS kernel. I just happened to have the USB200M laying around unused, so I gave it a whirl... Maybe I need a trip down to the local, friendly computer shop to try out one or two popular WiFi dongles...
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I've not delved into which connection takes precedence when both WiFi and USB Wired are connected. Obviously, they both work simultaneously when using the Prime as a hotspot (certainly, you don't need to turn WiFi off, per se).
I'll test this when ICS is released on the TF101 - this was my thinking too. I suspect it is an ICS benefit...
I'll let you know.
Again, I was thinking likewise. The only problem is, I don't know what drivers happen to be lurking in the ICS kernel. I just happened to have the USB200M laying around unused, so I gave it a whirl... Maybe I need a trip down to the local, friendly computer shop to try out one or two popular WiFi dongles...
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Even if the drivers aren't in the kernel, we have SaturnDe in developement section. He has been making driver/module packs for prime. New stuff originally not included in prime. Plus he now has an apk that makes quick use of installing and enabling them. He could always add the drivers/modules to his package. He says in his post to just let him know what device and provide certain info on it.
What kind of speeds are you seeing from the wired connection vs. Wireless one? Definitely a huge increase?
I tested with my Wii USB Ethernet adaptor, I noticed the same thing ICS doesn't show you're USB Ethernet is connected in anyway shape or form. But it will work. Forgive me for just noticing this thread.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
I just got a Trendnet TU2-ET100 USB to 10/100 Mbps adapter (about $17 at Amazon). It works seamlessly (with wifi turned off) and, of course, nothing shows that it is connected.
I just got my $7 usb->ethernet dongle and it works like a charm: https://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-2-0-10-100mbps-rj45-lan-ethernet-network-adapter-dongle-34691
Running a Prime w/ ICS 4.0.3
The D-Link DUB-E100 works just fine out of the box as well.
I bought Gigabit adapter from monoprice but it does not work
http://www.amazon.com/USB-2-0-Gigabit-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B003L1386S/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1330398638&sr=1-22
I have several android devices, a Verizon Galaxy S3 running Cleanrom, Nexus 7, and am looking at getting a MK808. I stay at a hotel frequently and would like to sometimes take my xbox. The problem is you have to go through the webportal to connect, so its impossible to do this without a laptop right now. What I am to do is by using any of the devices above, log into the webportal using the devices wifi, then connect the device via usb to ethernet adapter, and run ethernet to the xbox and share it.
So my question is, is this possible with those devices?
Ive searched and seen some driver packs for honeycomb and what not, but, not sure what to do in this situation. I figured I'd start posting here rather than double posting in the & and S3's forum.
Have we gotten to the point where the Android tools in general use are available for a capable android computer, like say a Z2 tablet or one of several Galaxy phones just to name a few?
My Z2 has 23.0.1.A.4.44 which I understand is not rootable. At the same time the Lollipop update is supposed to be just any time now. Should I root it now or wait and see what happens after the update, which I'll assume will be nothing to make it easier to root. Any suggestions as what to do? Root now and see if it will update and keep root or just wait? I can hardly stand the idea of this not being rooted.
Has anyone had any luck making a Z2 connect to adhoc wifi? I've studied the OLSRD patch and a few other methods and I'm a bit unsure about which method would be best and easiest. In fact, I have several devices I'd like to be able to connect to a simple adhoc wifi.
If anyone can point me to a ground level and upwards networking tutorial that doesn't carry a person too fast that is slow in that department, I'd appreciate it. I know the WLAN on most all of my androids tested will see adhoc wifi but the wpa supplicant thing seems to be the problem that google has ignored to the point they say it's now moot. I wish I could say I agreed.
Going further, if I make a usb micro to micro cable to connect these various devices, would it even be possible to hard wire tether the Z2 (and/or) other various android devices that way?
The only cables similar I can find are micro a to micro b and they are mostly called OTG. My understanding is that the Z2 will accept a or b and so will some of my samsung handhelds. I don't guess I know for sure.
Have we gotten to the point that hard wiring androids to each other would ever be of benefit? The wifi direct, near devices and NFC beam things on my devices equipped seem hit or miss at best if not inexplicably inoperative. Can you wirelessly one click root an android or flash a rom?
Please pardon my ignorance and thank you for your tolerance. I'd like my android world to be easier and more logical when it comes to simple things and it would be nice not to need a windows PC to tinker with my androids.
DroidinAndStuff said:
Has anyone had any luck making a Z2 connect to adhoc wifi? I've studied the OLSRD patch and a few other methods and I'm a bit unsure about which method would be best and easiest. In fact, I have several devices I'd like to be able to connect to a simple adhoc wifi.
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Ad-hoc WIFI is supported via WIFI DIRECT, look under Settings > WIFI > Advanced > WIFI DIRECT
Advanced is the 3-dot menu in the top-right corner of the screen.
DroidinAndStuff said:
Have we gotten to the point that hard wiring androids to each other would ever be of benefit? The wifi direct, near devices and NFC beam things on my devices equipped seem hit or miss at best if not inexplicably inoperative. Can you wirelessly one click root an android or flash a rom?
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Yeah support seem to be a hit and miss thing.
And as far as I you can not root a phone wirelessly.
I don't see that wifi direct is the same as actual adhoc. I have no less than 5 wifi direct devices, not all activated, and in the case of my spg512 cannot be activated, and it doesn't seem to work on any of them.
However, my pc's have zero problem seeing and connecting to the wpa supplicant skipped broadcasted wifi from my rooted s4 via barnacle.
Turning that off and trying the wifi direct with the same s4 and any other of my devices, gets nothing. None of these devices have any problem hooking up to starbucks or hotel wifi.
I have to wonder also if the infrared on the devices so equipped could be made to transfer data like a nearly 10 year old windows mobile phone can.
I must be doing something wrong or have many broken devices because the ones I can get to pair, all fail to transfer files to each other.
Of course the wifi direct sure isn't going to tether any of them to the internet.