Community development strength - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Real Life Review

You're a power user. Can the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

It's a bit too early for this IMO.

While its still took early since most people still havnt gotten their devices and devs usually don't have the money to throw at upgrading phones right when they come out, I hope that we will have a few solid devs here and create amazing ROMs. Not to mention the cm and aosp support we should see with the 820 varient.

Isn't the bootloader locked on all USA carriers? I know my Verizon one is. We'll be lucky to even get root.

Do you think we'll get xtrestolite for the s7?

Locked bootloader.

Samsung is starting to think they're Apple.

I feel like I'm wishing for the impossible to get root within 6 months on Verizon's S7e.

Personally I just bought the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge G935F (International Unlocked) version. I'm hoping development of roms picks up soon but until then at least I have root and the ability to make changes.

There are some great roms out for the g935F imo. Renovate and kryxxos both have very active forums and are making good progress. I'd say the development for the European variant has a pretty solid community so early on

I am happy to use it as is from factory. No need for root or roms here.

Semseddin said:
I am happy to use it as is from factory. No need for root or roms here.
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There is always a need for root. Removal of bloatware, ability to link apps2SD, etc. It may be (and is) incredibly functional at stock state, but I'm dying for root access.

TheAugust said:
There is always a need for root. Removal of bloatware, ability to link apps2SD, etc. It may be (and is) incredibly functional at stock state, but I'm dying for root access.
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That is why i said here, not there.

Semseddin said:
I am happy to use it as is from factory. No need for root or roms here.
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Me too, for now it is very speed & smooth, may be after release of Android N, I may reconsider my decision. For now I am ☺
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jason11 said:
Me too, for now it is very speed & smooth, may be after release of Android N, I may reconsider my decision. For now I am ☺
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Coming from a Nexus 6 used with stock/unrooted. i don't know why if it is a lollipop or marshmallow thing but rooted devices don't run as stable as they used to run like they did until kitkat. S7 Edge provides everything i need out of the package, i can disable whatever bloatware i don't need. So, i don't really see myself rooting for the sake of having root. :good:

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Coming from a Nexus 6 used with stock/unrooted. i don't know why if it is a lollipop or marshmallow thing but rooted devices don't run as stable as they used to run like they did until kitkat. S7 Edge provides everything i need out of the package, i can disable whatever bloatware i don't need. So, i don't really see myself rooting for the sake of having root. :good:
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Samsung slow in updates, they still haven't updated MM to S6 , just started in some countries. But, I think they will do the same with Android N to S7, So if you want to taste early Android N, you need to have CM.

Too early for this thread me thinks
Takes time for devs to bring us great things
In the meantime though I've been able to make quite a killer rom myself based on the latest G935FXXU1APCI TUR release and modded in xposed, root, removed knox and added in wifi-calling that I can use on UK EE

So... are owners of the Snapdragon version voting and commenting in this thread? If yes, that won't really be fair since the SD version is locked down.

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MorningStarGG said:
Personally I just bought the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge G935F (International Unlocked) version. I'm hoping development of roms picks up soon but until then at least I have root and the ability to make changes.
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I agree with you MorningStarGG. I hope that company will think about it.
Thanks.

Tripping Knox is something I want to stay away from.

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Samsung Galaxy S III Debacle

As a long time basic phone owner I am finally decided to make the switch to android. I have done my research and have come to the conclusion that i would like to purchase the Samsung galaxy S III. However, money is always an issue and I am trying to spend as little as possible but get the most of out my phone.
With Verizon, my current service, the additional 720$ for the 2 year data contract is scary, but the phone, only 200$ is nice. My major question about Verizon is, is it possible to root the Verizon SGSIII. I have read multiple posts from outraged customers who bricked their phones due to the locked bootloader on the Verizon SGSIII. Also, from what i have read from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756885 it is possible to root the verizon version of this phone although it is more complicated.
My second option is to purchase the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and root this phone through verizon. I would love to run Android 4.1 Jelly Bean on my device which is why i would like to root the device and flash something that would give me this enhancement. However, if i purchase the Galaxy Nexus, i am locked into a 2 year contract with a phone that came out 6 months ago and could soon be outdated by its "older brother" said to be released this december.
Which is my best option and if someone could please clear up the Root problems with the Verizon SGSIII it would be extremely helpful. Thanks for any response!
Best Regards
JSMessick
What are you guys talking about...10 seconds in the Verizon forum would turn up a root tutorial thread. So yes, root is available and there are workarounds that permit custom kernels.
Edit: there's a sticky thread in this very forum of how to obtain root on the Verizon gs3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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From what I understand Verizon Galaxy S3 owners will be able to root but not be able to flash kernels or use aosp roms like CM9/10 since you guys can't flash a kernel.
Unless you buy the bootloader unlocked Verizon Galaxy S3 from Samsung directly, you won't be able to flash kernels.
Again that is inaccurate. Using kexec we can boot custom kernels. We have an early version of cm9 running too. The real hold up is the ril which prevents the cm9 build from having mobile data
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To my understanding, they released a developer version that's boot loader unlocked.
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Avelnan said:
To my understanding, they released a developer version that's boot loader unlocked.
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They are, with the release date undisclosed, however it is 600$ which is a little outrageous.
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Again that is inaccurate. Using kexec we can boot custom kernels. We have an early version of cm9 running too. The real hold up is the ril which prevents the cm9 build from having mobile data
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So if i purchase the verizon version of the phone and i root it and flash CM9/10 using kexec will the phone still work? what do you mean by the RIL preventing cm9 from having mobile data? just want to clarify thanks for the help.
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So if i purchase the verizon version of the phone and i root it and flash CM9/10 using kexec will the phone still work? what do you mean by the RIL preventing cm9 from having mobile data? just want to clarify thanks for the help.
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To clarify some things, since half of the users on these boards are misinformed:
The Verizon (and pretty much every) Galaxy S3 has had root since virtually their release date.
The Verizon version does have a locked bootloader (see #3), and there is going to be a "Developer Edition" released directly from Samsung with pretty much no warranty, and it will be completely unsubsidized.
The bootloader lock has not stopped us from flashing custom ROMs or custom kernels. See below.
Here's some source links for you, in rough chronological order:
The "Root66" method for easily obtaining root
Original proof-of-concept showing custom kernels can be booted
Standard install of CyanogenMod 9 via kexec demonstrated
Functioning 3G/4G data on CyanogenMod 9 demonstrated
Unofficial guide to installing CyanogenMod 9
CVPCS states locked bootloader is a non-issue
Ongoing research & development on the locked bootloader
I could go on and on, but as you can see, development of custom ROMs (both TouchWiz and AOSP based) has not been hindered by the locked bootloader.
The community has pulled together on this, and developers from non-Verizon carriers have been tons of help in all the progress that has been made so far.
Many people, including myself, do not support the idea of the Developer Edition SGS3, and I personally doubt it will have even a tiny fraction of the community the consumer version has.
wifi hot spot on verizon galaxy iii
My question is. Even though the bootloader is locked am I still able to get root access and use the existing rom that cane with the phone originally and add the wifi hot spot feature. If so where do I find the wifi hotspot software? Sorry if it is a noob question but this is my first post.
Thanks in advance
ExodusC said:
To clarify some things, since half of the users on these boards are misinformed:
The Verizon (and pretty much every) Galaxy S3 has had root since virtually their release date.
The Verizon version does have a locked bootloader (see #3), and there is going to be a "Developer Edition" released directly from Samsung with pretty much no warranty, and it will be completely unsubsidized.
The bootloader lock has not stopped us from flashing custom ROMs or custom kernels. See below.
Here's some source links for you, in rough chronological order:
The "Root66" method for easily obtaining root
Original proof-of-concept showing custom kernels can be booted
Standard install of CyanogenMod 9 via kexec demonstrated
Functioning 3G/4G data on CyanogenMod 9 demonstrated
Unofficial guide to installing CyanogenMod 9
CVPCS states locked bootloader is a non-issue
Ongoing research & development on the locked bootloader
I could go on and on, but as you can see, development of custom ROMs (both TouchWiz and AOSP based) has not been hindered by the locked bootloader.
The community has pulled together on this, and developers from non-Verizon carriers have been tons of help in all the progress that has been made so far.
Many people, including myself, do not support the idea of the Developer Edition SGS3, and I personally doubt it will have even a tiny fraction of the community the consumer version has.
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saedhamad said:
My question is. Even though the bootloader is locked am I still able to get root access and use the existing rom that cane with the phone originally and add the wifi hot spot feature. If so where do I find the wifi hotspot software? Sorry if it is a noob question but this is my first post.
Thanks in advance
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Please visit the Verizon SGS3 development forum, all of your questions can be answered with a little browsing.
In short: yes you can root your phone very easily. You can install Free Wifi Tether from the Google Play store, and it works fine on a rooted phone. Finally, rooting involves installing a "stock" ROM (i.e. the one that came with your phone), the only difference being root access.
I have done all of this, so has my totally noob roommate.
saedhamad said:
My question is. Even though the bootloader is locked am I still able to get root access and use the existing rom that cane with the phone originally and add the wifi hot spot feature. If so where do I find the wifi hotspot software? Sorry if it is a noob question but this is my first post.
Thanks in advance
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I thought my post was pretty clear that you can easily gain root access with the current ROM.
I don't know about using the built-in wifi hotspot feature, but I know apps from the Play Store like FoxFi work just fine, even without root.
The Kexec method is a bandaid solution that can easily be patched by Verizon in the future.
JSMessick said:
As a long time basic phone owner I am finally decided to make the switch to android. I have done my research and have come to the conclusion that i would like to purchase the Samsung galaxy S III. However, money is always an issue and I am trying to spend as little as possible but get the most of out my phone.
With Verizon, my current service, the additional 720$ for the 2 year data contract is scary, but the phone, only 200$ is nice. My major question about Verizon is, is it possible to root the Verizon SGSIII. I have read multiple posts from outraged customers who bricked their phones due to the locked bootloader on the Verizon SGSIII. Also, from what i have read from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756885 it is possible to root the verizon version of this phone although it is more complicated.
My second option is to purchase the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and root this phone through verizon. I would love to run Android 4.1 Jelly Bean on my device which is why i would like to root the device and flash something that would give me this enhancement. However, if i purchase the Galaxy Nexus, i am locked into a 2 year contract with a phone that came out 6 months ago and could soon be outdated by its "older brother" said to be released this december.
Which is my best option and if someone could please clear up the Root problems with the Verizon SGSIII it would be extremely helpful. Thanks for any response!
Best Regards
JSMessick
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Going from basic phone (I'm assuming by that u mean a NON smartphone).... And already thinking of modifying. Wow lol.... Just get the gs3 my guess is u will be amazed at its capabilities right out of the box. Welcome to android btw.
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Just one final question, i know there are many people working on getting 4.1 Jellybean onto the SGSIII for the other versions (at&t sprint international etc.) is there a way i can get it onto the verizon one even with the locked bootloader? Like it is possible to get CM10 alpha on my phone and possible use that? or has this not been figured out yet. sorry for all the questions i just wanna try to learn as much as possible before i make a purchase.
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Just one final question, i know there are many people working on getting 4.1 Jellybean onto the SGSIII for the other versions (at&t sprint international etc.) is there a way i can get it onto the verizon one even with the locked bootloader? Like it is possible to get CM10 alpha on my phone and possible use that? or has this not been figured out yet. sorry for all the questions i just wanna try to learn as much as possible before i make a purchase.
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Idk about that BUT I do know that we should be getting the official JB pushed to our devices in Q4 of this year. I've been reading late aug-sep.
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[Q] Exynos 7420 development

Ive always been an HTC man and watched both live streams to decide my next phone. Im now pretty convinced its going to be the S6 Edge. The one thing thats worrying me is the development side of things with a Samsung own chip. Are they pretty good at supporting developers with documentation and such? I know when HTC went with the Tegra chip in the One X there were lots of problems with S-Off and that sort of thing. Is there likely to be any of that here or is it not a problem?
Exynos is closed source. They are not as open as say Qualcomm. Kernel is GPL so we will have custom stock kernel and ROMs. However... Cm12 and aosp is going to be hard AND buggy.
Custom stock ROM's are better than nothing, especially if you can get that bloatware out of the phone, even with a 128GB option (my GS6 Edge of choice) I still don't want all of the AT&T Bloatware and GB's of wasted space. Hiding is not enough for me.
are we gonna be able to achieve root?
it's all I'm interested in first phase, just want to remove some blootware from sammy, install a real UI and remove ads.
custom rom I can wait little more
Root will probably be the easiest.
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Root will probably be the easiest.
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not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
fix-this! said:
not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
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The two biggest US Carriers always rain on our parade, sadly they offer the best coverage otherwise I would go with T-Mo just for the open nature of the devices.
850RPM said:
are we gonna be able to achieve root?
it's all I'm interested in first phase, just want to remove some blootware from sammy, install a real UI and remove ads.
custom rom I can wait little more
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Yeah Chainfire will done it on time.
Does that mean there will be problems with aosp Roms?
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Does that mean there will be problems with aosp Roms?
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You will most probably never see a AOSP based ROM for s6 I'm afraid. And if you do, it will be so bug infested that it will take months to make it a daily. Then there is the stability issue when hack building like that...
Just check the note 4 exynos page... One half functioning cm11 (kudos to the developer).
So yeah... Stock ROM, debloated with a custom kernel with kcal or something similar. I'm happy. Maybe even themed to aosp and 360dpi...
Dreams...
That sounds bad . It seems i have to think again then. Maybe if we get Samsung based Roms like echoerom i might be tempted
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störte said:
That sounds bad . It seems i have to think again then. Maybe if we get Samsung based Roms like echoerom i might be tempted
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Yeah well Omega Roms have never failed a galaxy S series before...
Well we will see.
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Root and Knox
Hey guys
One of my colleagues has a Galaxy Alpha and is kinda jealous of me being able to stream to AirPlay-devices etc because my phone is rooted. So I said that I'd help him obtain rood, but soon discovered that the Alpha is not possible to root without trashing Knox.
So... does anybody know if that will also be the case with The S6 Edge? I NEED that phone, but I also NEED root... and I'd like to keep knox...
Also, The GS2 had both overclocking and undervolting options available... do you gus reckon that that will be possible on the S6Edge ?
- Martin
If you NEED root, don't buy it until root is confirmed. No one knows at this point how hard/easy it will be, or how long it will take to achieve.
looks like Chainfire has it already;
at least he posted a link in the original dev forum.
JasonJoel said:
If you NEED root, don't buy it until root is confirmed. No one knows at this point how hard/easy it will be, or how long it will take to achieve.
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Martin5000 said:
Hey guys
One of my colleagues has a Galaxy Alpha and is kinda jealous of me being able to stream to AirPlay-devices etc because my phone is rooted. So I said that I'd help him obtain rood, but soon discovered that the Alpha is not possible to root without trashing Knox.
So... does anybody know if that will also be the case with The S6 Edge? I NEED that phone, but I also NEED root... and I'd like to keep knox...
Also, The GS2 had both overclocking and undervolting options available... do you gus reckon that that will be possible on the S6Edge ?
- Martin
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not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
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He did it already http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/orig-development/cf-auto-root-t3056631
Root already is a good sign!
Would be interesting to know of any developers who are at least interested in getting this phone to work on?

S4 Ideas and General Chat

Anybody interested in an S4 Users telegram group chat?
I think it would be interesting to see how many enthusiasts we have among us and maybe toss around some ideas for upcoming dev work?
Pretty much anything goes lol
here is the link for those that wish to join.
https://telegram.me/joinchat/CG3OjgY7Dt9-Ubmuq9VAhw
Klabit is npjohnson going to be doing any work with his s4 bl unlock in there? Maybe looking for some testers???
I wonder how many s4 users there are left..
Surge1223 said:
I wonder how many s4 users there are left..
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Would it even be worth npjohnson releasing his bl unlock?
daredevl99 said:
Klabit is npjohnson going to be doing any work with his s4 bl unlock in there? Maybe looking for some testers???
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I'm sure he will join when he can. He is busy this weekend.
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I wonder how many s4 users there are left..
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S4's UNITE! :thumbup:
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I switched my wife over to nexus 5p, I can't decide on a phone so rocking the S4 longer. Stang's ROM has helped to this. lol Though he has me waiting for extended desktop feature...
What more can be done to this phone? Feels it's all dependent on latest Google, TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod firmwares. The processor is still running today's tasks fine still.
Neffy27 said:
I switched my wife over to nexus 5p, I can't decide on a phone so rocking the S4 longer. Stang's ROM has helped to this. lol Though he has me waiting for extended desktop feature...
What more can be done to this phone? Feels it's all dependent on latest Google, TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod firmwares. The processor is still running today's tasks fine still.
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When building from source honestly there are so many things that can be done. It's just a matter of somebody taking on the task.
Now I need to make a telegram account...
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Klabit is npjohnson going to be doing any work with his s4 bl unlock in there? Maybe looking for some testers???
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Did someone say bl unlock!???
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S4's UNITE! :thumbup:
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:good::good::good:
Neffy27 said:
I switched my wife over to nexus 5p, I can't decide on a phone so rocking the S4 longer. Stang's ROM has helped to this. lol Though he has me waiting for extended desktop feature...
What more can be done to this phone? Feels it's all dependent on latest Google, TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod firmwares. The processor is still running today's tasks fine still.
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I'm running Stang's v2 rom on OF1. I thought this will be the closest I will ever get my S4 to running a streamlined ROM and I have to say, it's NEVER run better. Handles everything very nicely. I still find TWZ rather annoying though...so many baked-in 'features' that I've never used and don't care about.
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When building from source honestly there are so many things that can be done. It's just a matter of somebody taking on the task.
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That sounds like a lot of donations.
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That sounds like a lot of donations.
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just trying to spark some life back into it.
seems there are a good few newcomers and plenty of users that dont plan on going anywhere
@stang5litre has done an excellent job on that as well.
I'm too poor to go anywhere... also because the one phone I want is like 100 bucks... plus taxes and crap, which we sure as heck don't have the money for because yay water damage!
we did hijack mohammed's thread...haven't tried the new Safestrap yet. Does it work good?
So is there anything to this mention of a unlocked bootloader for the s4?
Yes, for MDK bootloader.
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I wonder if its possible to re-map memory to flash
really there isn't much public info on the state of kexec and what has/has not been tried or done
last I heard got the kernel to initialize but it was hanging at boot ... after that everybody sorta dropped
if you could map some of the memory to a flash partition you could walk it as it boots and get a better idea on whats going on
I'm still on this phone because it has the features I want with an unlocked BL. If the Nexus 6 had a removable SD card, battery, IR, and some of the Samsung features like side sync and multiwindow, I'd use it instead.
Also if the S5, or Note 3 BL proof of concept unlock ever gets released, I'd get either one.
One thing I'm currently looking at is removing all the google bits that are not part of the AOSP, and basically making the Phoenix ROM like a S4 would be if it only had Samsung's software on it.
I like the direction stang, and klabit are going to add as many features as possible from the newer Samsung phones to the S4.
UPSM is a boon to the day to day use of this phone, as is fast charge and the new kernel.
The only thing I could really wish for is that all the new features could be optional and selectable at install like some of them are in the Phoenix port.
I believe that the Chinese variants are this way because of the ban on google services in China.
I don't want to remove the google services for the reason China does. Just for battery life reasons, and the constant addition of features I don't want, or need.
I am slowing transitioning over to using mostly apps from the f-droid repository and side loading the few app only on the play store, backed up from another phone.
As far as telegram is concerned, it's not 100% secure in it's default configuration, if that is your main use of it.
I use another software that is currently still in beta called ring. It is cross platform as well as open source.
I'm also working on designing a 3d printed case for using an extended battery, Qi charging that is rugged and has a removable front S-view cover option.
When I get more 3d modeling of it done I'll put a link in my sig.
Edit: Wrong area, my bad.

Wouldn't we all like a Rom for N950U!?!?!

If that got your attention then I need your help. If you have a USA NOTE 8 then you currently have limited ROM options. Some will tell you it can't be done, but there is already a solid rom for the S8+ (which also has a locked bootloader).
Basically if you have a TMOBILE, ATT, VERIZON, SPRINT or other US note we can get a sick rom made for US. Free of charge.
What's the catch?
The Dev willing to make this rom needs to know that a few of us (not just me) want and need this rom.
Please just reply to this thread if you own a Note 8 and want a deodexed, Knox removed, sped up, debloated and prerooted rom.
Thanks guys!!!
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If that got your attention then I need your help. If you have a USA NOTE 8 then you currently have no ROM option. Some will tell you it can't be done, but there is already a solid rom for the S8+ (which also has a locked bootloader).
Basically if you have a TMOBILE, ATT, VERIZON, SPRINT or other US note we can get a sick rom made for US. Free of charge.
What's the catch?
The Dev willing to make this rom needs to know that a few of us (not just me) want and need this rom.
Please just reply to this thread if you own a Note 8 and want a deodexed, Knox removed, sped up, debloated and prerooted rom.
Thanks guys!!!
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Aosp with spen functionally. Lol
Should most likely post this in the US carrier forums.
Or maybe the ROM/Development thread?
Honestly, I'm not sure where you would place a post demanding a ROM Developer make a ROM.
More is better!
A sick rom would be great, I miss my Note 1 and all of the rom options I had......
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Love the idea. Would Samsung Pay still work?
borijess said:
Love the idea. Would Samsung Pay still work?
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Absolutely not. SPay will NOT work on a rooted device or a custom ROM.
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Absolutely not. SPay will NOT work on a rooted device or a custom ROM.
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Would this include an attached Gear S3? I don't know why anyone would give up MST functionality and why Samsung is singing it to the moon. It is a real game changer.
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Would this include an attached Gear S3? I don't know why anyone would give up MST functionality and why Samsung is singing it to the moon. It is a real game changer.
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I don't have an S3, but can the Spay function on it independent of the phone? Can you set it up and use it without the phone?
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Absolutely not. SPay will NOT work on a rooted device or a custom ROM.
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I don't have an S3, but can the Spay function on it independent of the phone? Can you set it up and use it without the phone?
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You initiate it on the watch and it sets up through the phone, so if you can't even launch it on the phone that would answer the question and mean it doesn't work.
I would be more enamored by the MST upgrade from the Gear S2, but I have had pay since the S6. If I didn't have a phone with MST I would for sure be buying an S3. I run unlocked ROM and tethering and caller ID are enabled. I don't know what else I get with it, but tethering is usually $10 a month.
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You initiate it on the watch and it sets up through the phone, so if you can't even launch it on the phone that would answer the question and mean it doesn't work.
I would be more enamored by the MST upgrade from the Gear S2, but I have had pay since the S6. If I didn't have a phone with MST I would for sure be buying an S3. I run unlocked ROM and tethering and caller ID are enabled. I don't know what else I get with it, but tethering is usually $10 a month.
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If it requires SPay on the phone, then no it won't work. I use SPay all the time, so root and custom ROMs don't interest me too many options available to customise and disable bloatware without root now anyway.
Not Demanding...
I approached a Dev who is capable and maybe willing to make us a rom.
I didn't "Demand" nor should anyone else. (People like to be appreciated, not harassed / bossed around, see Psychology 101)
We MAY get a Rom, it is very likely, but said Dev (who can chime in whenever they like, otherwise will remain anon for now) wants to have:
1.) Interest. Dev doesn't own a Note 8, will be doing this not for his own use. He wants to know that at least 5 or 10 of us will be able to benefit from his time and effort.
2.) Testers. The rom will (hopefully) be based on the U1 Unlocked firmware. Testers with any US model N8 (or Canadian I suppose) can benefit, but we need people from
all carriers willing to flash beta software to their phones, not whine if it doesnt work right away, and give intelligent, meaningful feedback.
3.) Time. This will be a gift / sideproject for the dev. It may take a while. We gotta get people interested, help test, and BE PATIENT!
If you want to be part of this groundbreaking process just keep on keeping on!
EDIT: This rom will most likely have native Tethering built in... no bloat, knox removed, prerooted, deodexed etc
I would love a Rom and be willing to test also!
OptimuSlime said:
I approached a Dev who is capable and maybe willing to make us a rom.
I didn't "Demand" nor should anyone else. (People like to be appreciated, not harassed / bossed around, see Psychology 101)
We MAY get a Rom, it is very likely, but said Dev (who can chime in whenever they like, otherwise will remain anon for now) wants to have:
1.) Interest. Dev doesn't own a Note 8, will be doing this not for his own use. He wants to know that at least 5 or 10 of us will be able to benefit from his time and effort.
2.) Testers. The rom will (hopefully) be based on the U1 Unlocked firmware. Testers with any US model N8 (or Canadian I suppose) can benefit, but we need people from
all carriers willing to flash beta software to their phones, not whine if it doesnt work right away, and give intelligent, meaningful feedback.
3.) Time. This will be a gift / sideproject for the dev. It may take a while. We gotta get people interested, help test, and BE PATIENT!
If you want to be part of this groundbreaking process just keep on keeping on!
EDIT: This rom will most likely have native Tethering built in... no bloat, knox removed, prerooted, deodexed etc
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Shouldn't this be in the ROM/Development section?
Probably! I guess i'll move it lol
This is not a joke?
All of XDA's users of Note 8 (950U too) want of any rom, except official.
This is Not a joke. S8 / S8+ US model has almost the same setup as us, and also the same ****** locked bootloader.
There is a rom (are roms?) for it, and its badass.
I was amazed it wasnt available for the Note 8 US, so I asked and there just hadnt been any interested people asking someone who could handle it.
The guy who has the best chance of making it doesnt OWN a N8 so without someone asking him, it just wasnt on the old todo list.
I'm sure said Dev will get on here at some point as we get more people posting and clarify what he Can/Will/Will try to do. This is in no way guaranteed, but I would bet we have a rom sooner rather than later if we get enough people involved.
The thread will remain here while we gather testers and get a core of people interested.
When Dev decides to post a Link to something we can Download and test, He can start a Dev/Rom thread for that purpose. Keeps the site nice and tidy.
I'm willing to be a tester. Would love to have a new rom on my Sprint Note 8

Just curious...

I know the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader; but, what are the chances of unlocking it at all by the talented devs in the community? Or, will this device end up dead and forgotten just like the S7 I upgraded from?
noxarcana said:
but, what are the chances of unlocking it at all by the talented devs in the community?
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Bootloader unlock: 0.00033%
Root: 6.22%
kcodya said:
Bootloader unlock: 0.00033%
Root: 6.22%
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Figured as much. Probably should have gone with a different phone then, I suppose. I'm just tired of expensive products being locked down so tightly.
noxarcana said:
I know the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader; but, what are the chances of unlocking it at all by the talented devs in the community? Or, will this device end up dead and forgotten just like the S7 I upgraded from?
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Unlocked, prolly not. Samsung is serious about security.
Root? Yeah, I am sure it can be done. There are some recent exploits in 8.0 and 8.1 that were not patched until the March security patch. We don't have that security patch yet so this is a chance there.
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Unlocked, prolly not. Samsung is serious about security.
Root? Yeah, I am sure it can be done. There are some recent exploits in 8.0 and 8.1 that were not patched until the March security patch. We don't have that security patch yet so this is a chance there.
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A good, clean root? One that doesn't bring the device to a crawl and needs a ton of workarounds like the S7? Probably sounds like I'm being unappreciative of the work done with such exploits, but I assure you I'm not. I've had plenty of devices with great communities in the past, but I just feel that root is pointless if it isn't 100% stable.
Maybe I'll just start setting aside some cash for the next Google Pixel; or whatever they call it if they don't change the name again.
Inusee to be all about rooting my phones but I haven't rooted my last 2 phones. With the advances made with Android I really can't think of what I would do with root that I can't already do.
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Inusee to be all about rooting my phones but I haven't rooted my last 2 phones. With the advances made with Android I really can't think of what I would do with root that I can't already do.
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Take out all the Samsung logging and tracking. That's all I want to do.
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Inusee to be all about rooting my phones but I haven't rooted my last 2 phones. With the advances made with Android I really can't think of what I would do with root that I can't already do.
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Remove bloatware, install Viper4Android, make true backups of my device, along with an unlocked bootloader we can have faster updates through the use of custom roms, better customization options. These are a few things I'd like but can't because some company has decided that it isn't in my, the customer, best interest.
noxarcana said:
Remove bloatware, install Viper4Android, make true backups of my device, along with an unlocked bootloader we can have faster updates through the use of custom roms, better customization options. These are a few things I'd like but can't because some company has decided that it isn't in my, the customer, best interest.
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Eh. I thought voper4android was always a little too heavy. All of the settings the phone natively has plus 3rd party launchers gives a heck of a lot of customization options.
I'm not trying to down anybody who likes to root. If I could I probably would. I just think those days are slowly fading.
965U Root?
http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965u-star2qlte-easily/
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Eh. I thought voper4android was always a little too heavy. All of the settings the phone natively has plus 3rd party launchers gives a heck of a lot of customization options.
I'm not trying to down anybody who likes to root. If I could I probably would. I just think those days are slowly fading.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Nova Launcher and have been using it for several years now; however, it doesn't affect the entire system. I have to use Samsung's themes to take care of settings and the built-in stock apps. I'd much rather have just one method of theming that handles everything; hence my desire to use custom roms.
As far as Viper goes, I can understand why it wouldn't be for everyone, but the built-in Dolby Atmos option sounds like garbage to me no matter what source I'm playing audio through. This is one reason why I miss my Galaxy Tab S 8.4".
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965U Root?
http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965u-star2qlte-easily/
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That has to be for the Exynos variant as they're talking about installing TWRP. Snapdragon variant can't install a custom recovery without an unlocked bootloader; which is unlikely for us. However, I think there has been some progress toward a root method (don't quote me on that), but no actual root yet.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Nova Launcher and have been using it for several years now; however, it doesn't affect the entire system. I have to use Samsung's themes to take care of settings and the built-in stock apps. I'd much rather have just one method of theming that handles everything; hence my desire to use custom roms.
As far as Viper goes, I can understand why it wouldn't be for everyone, but the built-in Dolby Atmos option sounds like garbage to me no matter what source I'm playing audio through. This is one reason why I miss my Galaxy Tab S 8.4".
That has to be for the Exynos variant as they're talking about installing TWRP. Snapdragon variant can't install a custom recovery without an unlocked bootloader; which is unlikely for us. However, I think there has been some progress toward a root method (don't quote me on that), but no actual root yet.
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Well, it clearly states that it's for the 965U. I'm just reporting what I read, but I'm no developer or any expert so who knows.
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Well, it clearly states that it's for the 965U. I'm just reporting what I read, but I'm no developer or any expert so who knows.
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That it does! I didn't see the 5 at the end of 965U.
Perhaps it's due to a lack of sleep, but I seem to be missing something with these model numbers. 965U shows to be the Snapdragon variant, but all other sources say there's no root method. I'm just going to stop worrying about it all at this point and quietly wait in the corner while the experts take care of business. Lol

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