Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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Here are some some daytime shots comparisons with an Lg G4. Just move the slider to view one photo or the other...
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the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
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the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
Wow! The Edge does so much better! Way to much brightness and less detail on the G4.
There is a bit too much sharpening on the third comparison on the Edge side, but it still looks better than the G4 that is kind of blurry.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
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When looking at full screen colours on the cars are better on the g4 for picture number 1. However, I really feel the contrast and white balance are better on the s7. Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Good point. On the other hand, in the same picture the S7E missed the different colour of the sky/clouds at the end of the alleyway, trough the branches. The next comparison shows similar stuff - in the one with the statue - the G4 captures more of the color in the sky (actually closer to what it was in reality). While in the third one both are similar sky-wise.
Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a
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Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a bigger sensor like Panasonic did with the CM1. I would have loved to see a CM2! Their 20MPx was producing better results than most dedicated cameras!
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Phil
Took a picture of our new Pup, first picture using the the S7 edge.
Impressed with how awesome it came out, just used a tool to blur the background around him.
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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Those of us coming from less than spectacular cameras, such as me (HTC one m8), I'm finding the camera incredibly awesome. I got this phone mainly for the camera. The focus is super quick, the color reproduction is very good and I do enjoy the pro more the Galaxy S7 offers.
Were this pictures taken with manual or auto mode on G4, since my son had a G4 and it's auto mode really sucks.
Getting excited .. wish it's 18th now that I can take my hands on this beast..
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Loss of detail in normal/good light conditions vs Note 4 / S5
S7 camera looks a bit over sharpened for my taste at the same time there is more details in every picture (shooting raw will be a solution for this).
Colors looks better and more realistic on the S7 (not knowing how the original scene looks), but the first shot is a bit too much contrast.
Overall the S7 is the better camera in this shootout.
pogi.paul0119 said:
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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i saw an article in GSM arena wherein they compared the Sony and Samsung Sensors and theres no much difference.. they are both good in different aspects
Front facing camera focus issue
Anyone else have issues with the front facing camera not focusing?
Here are two pictures as examples, one with the front facing and the other with the rear camera
This shooter is top notch. Love the Pro mode. That's the killer app I've been waiting for from Samsung or Android. The manual controls are easy to toggle and the snappy hardware enhances the experience.
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Please Samsung, ease down on the artificial image sharpening: youtube.com/watch?v=OR5UziCqXew
Have anyone tried 10 sek shutter by hand? Is it possible to hold it still enough?
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As I got a P10 (sadly not the P10 Plus) at MWC, I have been out and about in Barcelona taking photos.
I thought it was probably a good idea to create a thread for others to post to.
Here are my first photos at night:
https://jmcomms.com/2017/02/26/huawei-p10-night-photos-around-barcelona-and-first-impressions/
Followed by some in the late afternoon:
https://jmcomms.com/2017/02/27/huawei-p10-more-photos-around-barcelona-during-mwc-2017/
And an open Google Photos gallery that anyone can contribute to.
https://goo.gl/photos/BCfjQvk6zQmwm9w79
The camera is pretty much identical to the Mate 9, but it does have the new portrait functions (that may come to the Mate 9 in a future update).
It's a nice phone, but one complaint is that with the phone being so thin, you can easily grip the phone in such a way that you can't use the on-screen shutter to take a photo. It doesn't discount any other touches on the screen, so I've had many moments where I missed a shot because my thumb was EVER SO slightly touching the edge of the screen.
Sometimes bezels have their uses!
4K video samples; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCuoPs57Q4Q
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It's a nice phone, but one complaint is that with the phone being so thin, you can easily grip the phone in such a way that you can't use the on-screen shutter to take a photo. It doesn't discount any other touches on the screen, so I've had many moments where I missed a shot because my thumb was EVER SO slightly touching the edge of the screen.
Sometimes bezels have their uses!
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You can always use the volume keys as a shutter.
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You can always use the volume keys as a shutter.
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Yes, and I do but it's not in the ideal position. I wish more companies would use two stage shutters like Sony.
I made some night shots for testing:
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All tree are made in ISO 50, the first two are at 30 sec. shutter speed, the third one at 4 sec.
I think the camera is really good at night with the right settings. I tried to make similar pics with my i6S but they weren't that good.
Got my P10 yesterday and here is my first shot (with aperture mode).
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I made some night shots for testing:
All tree are made in ISO 50, the first two are at 30 sec. shutter speed, the third one at 4 sec.
I think the camera is really good at night with the right settings. I tried to make similar pics with my i6S but they weren't that good.
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Great shots. On your iPhone have you or did you try using Nightcap Pro?
P10 is still using a BSI CMOS but the night shots were really not bad. It'd be better if it upgraded to Stacked CMOS like Exmor RS.
Is it good with moving subjects? I have an OP3 and the camera has major difficulties in handling kids and babies, especially indoors, even with decent light.
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Is it good with moving subjects? I have an OP3 and the camera has major difficulties in handling kids and babies, especially indoors, even with decent light.
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Would be interested in this as well. I have an OP3T and can't shoot my dog and nephew indoors.
I managed to test the P10 out in the store, and EXIF showed, that it uses faster shutter than the 3T indoors. Did not manage to shoot any people tough :/
I have it for 4 days now and its camera is MUCH MUCH better than OP3. Better results than iphone 7, just the colors a bit more fake, sometimes. Fast camera, shocking fast fingerprint reader, charging speed and battery feels a bit better on OP3, not big differences.
Screen is dirtier than most phones though. I'm getting used to it. Also, headphones volume a bit thin.
But camera... I hated Op3 camera, my baby photos were always blurry. Not the case anymore.
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Would be interested in this as well. I have an OP3T and can't shoot my dog and nephew indoors.
I managed to test the P10 out in the store, and EXIF showed, that it uses faster shutter than the 3T indoors. Did not manage to shoot any people tough :/
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I have it for 4 days now and its camera is MUCH MUCH better than OP3. Better results than iphone 7, just the colors a bit more fake, sometimes. Fast camera, shocking fast fingerprint reader, charging speed and battery feels a bit better on OP3, not big differences.
Screen is dirtier than most phones though. I'm getting used to it. Also, headphones volume a bit thin.
But camera... I hated Op3 camera, my baby photos were always blurry. Not the case anymore.
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This sounds fantastic. Do you still have the OP3? Can you try to shoot some pics indoors abouth the same object with the two and tell the EXIF (details option in gallery) ? No need to post the pics, just the ISO, Shutter between the P10 and OP3.
Thank you.
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P10 is still using a BSI CMOS but the night shots were really not bad. It'd be better if it upgraded to Stacked CMOS like Exmor RS.
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The IMX286 used as the color sensor in the P10 is listed as a Exmor rs sensor on the Wiki. Also in the mate 9 review on GSM arena. They wrote, that the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7.
I don't own the phone. But I'm considering buying it as a replacement for my HTC One M8. When i bought that, the camera wasn't a priority. But that is changed for my next purchase.
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The IMX286 used as the color sensor in the P10 is listed as a Exmor rs sensor on the Wiki. Also in the mate 9 review on GSM arena. They wrote, that the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7.
I don't own the phone. But I'm considering buying it as a replacement for my HTC One M8. When i bought that, the camera wasn't a priority. But that is changed for my next purchase.
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Can you explain a bit how is it: "the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7." ? I'm interested in this phone but f:2.2 is more than the f:1.8 of P10 Plus. Anyway, i dont know how much can be the shutter speed in pro mode.
Loving my P10 Plus, The camera is amazing, Here are some of my photos.
http://imgur.com/a/bQIki
http://imgur.com/a/dNjy6
http://imgur.com/a/ftgPI
http://imgur.com/a/WCsBs
Unfortunately no. My OP3 had a lot of dust on the lens, inside (i had a lot of phones, this never happened with any...). So I sent it to the Service Center and... DHL lost it.
Anyway. I remember in auto mode OP3 was always 1/17 with ISO from 1000 to 3000+. Any movement turned into blur usually. Very annoying. Then they made some update and it was using 1/20 and lower ISO. Still blurry. Manual shots were slightly better, sometimes.
With P10, same living room, it does 1/17 to 1/25, ISO from 200 to 640. BUT no blur anymore, so most likely OP3 problem is the damn postprocessing. In manual mode, you can really catch the action. Outside, ISO goes to 50 in good light. Interesting, sometimes indoors the picture looks brighter than the reality in auto mode, but in a good way ☺
Greens are slightly fake sometime.
davebugyi said:
Would be interested in this as well. I have an OP3T and can't shoot my dog and nephew indoors.
I managed to test the P10 out in the store, and EXIF showed, that it uses faster shutter than the 3T indoors. Did not manage to shoot any people tough :/
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davebugyi said:
This sounds fantastic. Do you still have the OP3? Can you try to shoot some pics indoors abouth the same object with the two and tell the EXIF (details option in gallery) ? No need to post the pics, just the ISO, Shutter between the P10 and OP3.
Thank you.
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No editing.
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Unfortunately no. My OP3 had a lot of dust on the lens, inside (i had a lot of phones, this never happened with any...). So I sent it to the Service Center and... DHL lost it.
Anyway. I remember in auto mode OP3 was always 1/17 with ISO from 1000 to 3000+. Any movement turned into blur usually. Very annoying. Then they made some update and it was using 1/20 and lower ISO. Still blurry. Manual shots were slightly better, sometimes.
With P10, same living room, it does 1/17 to 1/25, ISO from 200 to 640. BUT no blur anymore, so most likely OP3 problem is the damn postprocessing. In manual mode, you can really catch the action. Outside, ISO goes to 50 in good light. Interesting, sometimes indoors the picture looks brighter than the reality in auto mode, but in a good way
Greens are slightly fake sometime.
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Many thanks! I am getting mine and getting rid of the OP 3T on Tuesday. The OP is a fast and nice phone, but a lacks a decent allrounder camera.
SebastianAlejandro said:
Can you explain a bit how is it: "the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7." ? I'm interested in this phone but f:2.2 is more than the f:1.8 of P10 Plus. Anyway, i dont know how much can be the shutter speed in pro mode.
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Hello Sebastian
This is a quote from the review on GSMArena:
"You'd argue that the f/2.2 aperture is quite dim by today's standards, to which Leica replies that you have two of those, so double the light. In effect that makes the aperture f/1.6 (2.2 divided by the square root of 2)."
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_9-review-1520p8.php
Also the arpeture on the plus model is still better, but not much
http://m.androidcentral.com/huawei-p10-vs-p10-plus-camera-comparison
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Thanks for sharing your beautifull pictures. It realy helps me to decide to buy this phone.
KyleGriffiths said:
Loving my P10 Plus, The camera is amazing, Here are some of my photos.
http://imgur.com/a/bQIki
http://imgur.com/a/dNjy6
http://imgur.com/a/ftgPI
http://imgur.com/a/WCsBs
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Love the photos. Have you used an older Huawei or Honor phone previously to the P10 Plus?
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Essential Phone's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Disappointing.
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Disappointing.
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Even after all of the updates? Tried the google camera apk?
Yea, it's pretty bad compared to all other flagships or "flagship killers"
That's a bummer. I'm not surprised though, it's mostly been knocked for it's sub par camera.
It's weird cause some people seem to post some decent low light pics and others are pretty bad. Must just boil down to individual users.
The last camera update seems to have helped considerably with low light performance although the result isn't yet nearly as good as my Xperia Z5. This shot was taken just now in a room with a single 60w bulb - pretty good detail on a black dog on black comforter, not an easy subject. https://photos.app.goo.gl/VcVE3TbFmJm4DCCJ3
The camera during the day is fine and is equal to the pixel ported app. The camera at night is hit or miss. A dark room or darker room it will struggle bad. If it's a night shot out side and there are street lights or business signs there seems to be enough light for the camera to take a decent pic. I compared it to the honor 8. What I think the camera needs is a manual mode or something that allows you to control the lighting like the pixel camera. If it had that feature the camera would be good. It could also have a bit more sharpening too.
The video needs more light. Even with the pixel ported app the video is dark if you don't have good lighting, very grainy. Again a manual mode to control the light and more sharpening would do wonders for this camera.
I'm not saying it's great, but this was with the stock camera app taken from inside a car...
Xmas shots
Took a bunch last night. Where you see the same picture twice, is when I snapped the same pic with the Essential app and then the Gcam app. Strangely when I tried to up the brightness with the slider on the Essential app the results were terrible. Had to delete those pics. Point and shoot was the way to go.
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Took a bunch last night. Where you see the same picture twice, is when I snapped the same pic with the Essential app and then the Gcam app. Strangely when I tried to up the brightness with the slider on the Essential app the results were terrible. Had to delete those pics. Point and shoot was the way to go. "/>"/>"/>"/>"/>"/>"/>"/>"/>"/>"/>
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Which gcam APK are you having success with? I'm noticing that the essential camera app is taking overall better point and shoot pictures in my day to day use.
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Which gcam APK are you having success with? I'm noticing that the essential camera app is taking overall better point and shoot pictures in my day to day use.
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MGC_5.1.016_7.0+C2 found on the Google Cam thread here on XDA. How has the Essential app been in low light? I just noticed one or 2 where the Gcam was clearly better. Haven't tried indoors yet. Seems like camera issues are overblown IMHO. So far this camera is fine for my needs. And you can always use an editor which pros do for best results. clarity and detail seems to be there.
I grabbed mine from Sprint so for 145 no complaints! Even at 499 I would love this phone. Best Android I have ever had by far.
So happy to be free of Scamsung. Had to fire it up to pull some files off and it was lag,stutter,jank, crash as always......
Stocka camera vs iPhone 7 Plus
I really think that the Ph1 has good camera un low ligth conditions. I compared the stock camera vs iPhone 7 Plus of mine wife.
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I really think that the Ph1 has good camera un low ligth conditions. I compared the stock camera vs iPhone 7 Plus of mine wife.
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So much noise and loss of detail though. Zoom in even slightly.
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So much noise and loss of detail though. Zoom in even slightly.
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Take the same picture on an S9 or S9+ and you'll notice the difference
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Take the same picture on an S9 or S9+ and you'll notice the difference
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Take the picture on a disposable camera and you'll notice the difference lol. Plus I feel like he used flash
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Take the picture on a disposable camera and you'll notice the difference lol. Plus I feel like he used flash
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??? Agreed!
crixley said:
So much noise and loss of detail though. Zoom in even slightly.
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The photos were taking whitout flash and before the stock camera update. The camera ins't perfect but for the half of price of the iPhone 7 Plus, it´s ok. During the day the result is better than the iPhone 7 Plus.
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The photos were taking whitout flash and before the stock camera update. The camera ins't perfect but for the half of price of the iPhone 7 Plus, it´s ok. During the day the result is better than the iPhone 7 Plus.
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I owned a 7 plus and that is not true in the least. 7 plus blows it out of the water in every way camera wise.
The camera is alright at best. Regardless it is not a huge issue to me.
crixley said:
I owned a 7 plus and that is not true in the least. 7 plus blows it out of the water in every way camera wise.
The camera is alright at best. Regardless it is not a huge issue to me.
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I have the two phones and the photos with daylight have no differences, in low light iPhone 7 Plus is better.
Daylight (HDR mode)
PH1 https://photos.app.goo.gl/V2ZsqaqZVoGbRSec2
7 Plus https://photos.app.goo.gl/jLQKApR5SVq43JCM2
Low light (without flash and HDR mode)
PH1 https://photos.app.goo.gl/miNCaX88M1D3QAQ18
7 Plus https://photos.app.goo.gl/2GHam0XfcVUAVlsj2
The photos were taken at the same time and the result is PH1 equal to 7 Plus in daylight (I think better in PH1). In low light the result is different and 7 Plus is only better, not for much.
But show me a comparison of photos in the same conditions where the iPhone 7 Plus performs much better than the Essential PH1.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Photo quality is one of the worst I've seen on a smartphone. I'm way too disappointed, honestly pixel 2 camera beats the crap out of note 10 plus camera. Is it too much to ask for a good bokeh photo? I mean everyone is doing it great WITHOUT the TOF sensor. Does it even work on the phone? I felt like crying when I took my first image on the phone. One would expect the live focus would be matured by now but cheap Chinese phones give you better live focus effects. The wide angle is completely unusable, distorted (after enabling the correction) and grainy. The photo quality is garbage during all lighting conditions except daylight and outdoors. How did Samsung have the audacity to market it as a content creators phone?
I don’t have any of the problems that you mentioned. After your first photo, instead of crying you should have returned it immediately.
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Photo quality is one of the worst I've seen on a smartphone. I'm way too disappointed, honestly pixel 2 camera beats the crap out of note 10 plus camera. Is it too much to ask for a good bokeh photo? I mean everyone is doing it great WITHOUT the TOF sensor. Does it even work on the phone? I felt like crying when I took my first image on the phone. One would expect the live focus would be matured by now but cheap Chinese phones give you better live focus effects. The wide angle is completely unusable, distorted (after enabling the correction) and grainy. The photo quality is garbage during all lighting conditions except daylight and outdoors. How did Samsung have the audacity to market it as a content creators phone?
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I absolutely agree. My s10+ that I traded was a beast at night photos. Now my Note 10+ looks like pictures were taken from a laptop cam. So grainy and blurry at night or even during the day unless it's outside in a very nicely light place. Someone was saying some cases might cause this issue but I tried it without a case and no difference. Clearing cache and storage with rebooting does not help either. Mine is unlocked and the pictures were bad when i was on the U1 firmware and now I am t-mobile firmware and no difference. I am thinking about calling Samsung and asking for replacement. It seems this issue has been happening ever since the s8. A lot of complaints with the Note 9 too.
I feel regret for trading in my perfect s10+
I'm really not sure whether it's a faulty device or just very poor camera quality, but although sharp, my photos in ideal conditions come out lifeless and washed out enough that multiple people commented on it...And that's coming from OP6T, so not exactly huge expectations...I came here to see if it's the same for everyone, or if it's something to return the device for or if there's a software fix...
ok either i have another device and got scammed with note 10 +sticker on the box or something really wrong with your devices guys !!!
the photo and video quality is superb on this phone. the only area were my previous p30 pro shines over it is the night time and still very decent performer !
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I don’t have any of the problems that you mentioned. After your first photo, instead of crying you should have returned it immediately.
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Not a faulty hardware and had pre booked so cannot return. It's pure garbage that's all.
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I'm really not sure whether it's a faulty device or just very poor camera quality, but although sharp, my photos in ideal conditions come out lifeless and washed out enough that multiple people commented on it...And that's coming from OP6T, so not exactly huge expectations...I came here to see if it's the same for everyone, or if it's something to return the device for or if there's a software fix...
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Just the way it is. All the vloggers either have been bought off or they know jack**** about vlogging camera quality. They don't even know what they're doing half the time and the other half they just copy from each other. It could easily be fixed by good software.
cyanotrix said:
Not a faulty hardware and had pre booked so cannot return. It's pure garbage that's all.
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Just the way it is. All the vloggers either have been bought off or they know jack**** about vlogging camera quality. They don't even know what they're doing half the time and the other half they just copy from each other. It could easily be fixed by good software.
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Operator's technical problem
Not even a sample photo,Mouth complaining
zjhao said:
Operator's technical problem
Not even a sample photo,Mouth complaining
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Would love to, but XDA app says bad request when I try to attach an image.
I really do not know what device are the both complainers talking about, the camera is excelent, chinese cheap phones are by no means better than note's camera, so, only god knows what are you holding in your hands, or how you are using it
Takes great photos to me.
Most seem to havd hdr on. So moving shortly after taking a photo gives a blured photo. But other then that.
Great photos
Coming from a Pixel 3 XL (and previously a 2 XL), the overall image quality is a noticeable step down for me (Note10+ photos seem granier, blurrier, smudgier, etc.), but the versatility of the Note10+'s cameras are unmatched. The versatility alone is enough for me to sacrifice some image quality.
Video is a no contest. The Note10+ video capabilities puts the 3 XL to shame. However, Live Focus Video is atrocious and needs a lot of improvement.
Live Focus for portrait photos is mediocre at best. It softens way too much at the higher blur levels, to the point where the subject and background turn out smudgy and seem to 'melt' into one. Granted, I have taken a handful of good Live Focus photos, but the 3 XL's Portrait Mode is hands-down superior imho.
I have also noticed the shutter speed to be slightly slower on the Note10+ compared to the 3 XL, as I seem to capture more blurry shots of my 3yo son with the Note10+.
Quick question for everyone. Do you guys have HDR always enabled? I do, so I'm wondering if this is contributing to the slower shutter speed/lag.
Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
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Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
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I agree completely
Blaalad12 said:
Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
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Exactly so
Nic
Blaalad12 said:
Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
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Agree... I keep doing more and more tests and honestly i am even impressed by photos in the dark with the normal (wide angle) lens..
However there is some stuff not working well, like portrait mode in the dark, too grainy, probably due to the apperture. Need to use wide angle lens for dark situations.
I find it amazing to read complaints but none posts examples about it with the settings used.
Perhaps it has something to do with Qualcomm's processing vs Exynos? It seems Exynos Note 10 people are happy with quality and at least one of the two people in this thread with image quality issue is using Snapdragon Note 10 plus
Mine, too me at least seems good. I have snapdragon version, and maybe it's just me coming from my note 8? Hopefully these come through clear... The night shot was just on regular mode
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The note 8 camera is indeed really good, this note10+ is just plain excellent, that's it
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
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ihaveworms said:
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
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Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
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Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
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Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
Have you tried the high efficiency pictures option? It saves pictures in HEIF instead of JPEG, maybe it'll help?
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Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
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ihaveworms said:
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
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The focus should be done to the same point, is not the case for Samples A, and you should share what is the complete camera configuration including the Camera Assistant.
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Any specific one? There are multiple threads on this topic. This one?
Image quality not great
Took pictures of red roses I bought for my wife. They are pink. My old Note 10 reproduce color perfectly. Not sure how much I am loving this new phone. Anyone else notice this?
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As mentioned I have found it possible to reproduce the "more natural" GCAM results by tweaking down saturation, shadows, and brightness a few clicks in pro mode. Don't see a reason to futz with GCAM at the moment but open to changing my mind.
Speaking of which, why did Samsung decide to brighten the shadows when you move the slider to the left? Literally every other piece of software brightens shadows when you slide to the right.
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Listen dude, colors are a preference thing and they can be tuned. Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
There is not a single stock phone that can beat gcam in overall output, sure the phone at stock can have a bit more accurate colors, a bit better white balance, and so on, maybe even main video or portrait shots, but thats it, everything else will favor GCAM.
Share you settings from the xml/apk you use, and tell me what do you want to improve, i will help you fix it.
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Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
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Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
citytrader said:
Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
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In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
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In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
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You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
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You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
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Example, very low light scene
Let me guess, now you will claim the stock is good and better right?
Stock camera, 1/4 shutter speed, night mode, 5 sec (maximum exposure)
GCAM 1/3 shutter speed, night mode
This why GCAM is a none sense.
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This why GCAM is a none sense.
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Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
I'm playing with my S23 Ultra for 2 weeks now, and it can sometimes give good results in 50Mpix ExpertRAW, but GCAM is just more reliable. Every time I snap a picture it looks the same, with no halos, artifacts, etc. With the Stock app, it is not the case. Over processing is just ridiculous. And most annoying part is that it, unfortunately, happens in ExpertRAWs as well. On top of that, seems like the process is not being applied in the same way for each of the photo parts. Look at this comparison of the iPhone 14 PRO RAW 48 Mpix (left) and S23 Ultra ExpertRAW 50 Mpix (right).
Look at the center of the picture. For Samsung, the details of the wooden structure are gone. This part of the picture has very strong Noise Reduction applied. Looks just ugly. And then below that block and above, you have parts, that are being processed in another way round - over sharpened. For both pictures, sliders for noise reduction and sharpening are at a minimum. So this is the main reason for using GCAM and not stock software in Samsung.
That said, it is sad that Samsung cannot make processing better, because this sensor has so much potential!
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Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
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I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
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I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
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Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
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It Look like artefacts from resizing. For me it is miss for most of the time. If I do not resize the image it ok i woudl say, but only the. If light conditions are perfect, then 50 mix from expert raw is ok and can have more details than gcam. But if there is no enough light, then i was not able to produce anyrhing that is even close to results from gcam. Pictures from stock app and camera raws are very inconsistent. Like I can have picture where in some places I have oversharpened result, while just few pixel in any dirextion from there there is a spot with no details at all because of the noise reduction. I hope that samsung will do something about it. Here is a link to the example of what I am talking about: Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88226029
All this reminds me of S20 Ultra when the 108MP sensor was first introduced. Took more than 6 months to tune the software for it.
I'm bracing for the same bumpy ride here....the current images we are getting are beta quality.
Here is a simple test with a simple printed paper I did with my camera and the S23U, the situation of the camera is much worse than the S23 because of the ISO and because is using the complete frame in the shot, so you see complete edge to edge lens sharpness
M6 MKII: ISO 500 @ 22mm f/5.6, image occupy the entire frame to better check edge to edge sharpness, you can see edge to edge sharpness, its a pity greedy Canon discontinued this fantastic travel camera...
S23U: ISO 50 @ 50mpx, not possible to occupy the entire frame because of the distance it does not focus, so part of the frame is occupied and this could be an advantage to the S23U but it is not in practice because just moving a bit from the center it loses sharpness a lot and even worse detail because of the heavy noise correction.
Versions in REALRAW and PRO: EXPERTRAW pictures are much sharper than PRO... Come on Samsung, what are you doing?
I did not post the 12mpx shot because is not a fair comparison and in this phone having the 50mpx option who will shot in 12mpx when using the normal lens...
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The files are in the attachment for the size and you can make a comparison on your screen, is easy to see why a camera make a big difference, much better sharpness edge to edge, much better detail compare to the S23U because S23U apply heavy noise correction in its sensor and the quality of lens edge to edge of the S23U is by far really bad like any camera phone.
This is a very very simple comparison because to be fair we need to buy the target, even if I shoot with the phone when I don't have my camera, I prefer to do all my travel and home videos with the phone.
Why ISO 500 and not 100 it's native ISO?
The difference is even greater than shown here if so. This Canon lense? Pretty sharp as you can see on the interactive blur chart even on the edges at f/5.6, sweet. The Samsung can't match that...
blackhawk said:
Why ISO 500 and not 100 it's native ISO?
The difference is even greater than shown here if so. This Canon lense? Pretty sharp as you can see on the interactive blur chart even on the edges at f/5.6, sweet. The Samsung can't match that...
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Just wanted to do it at ISO 500 as worst case, at ISO 100 it will be even better.
I added more shots with a bigger target printed in laser to fill the frame of the S23U, the shot of M6mkII is at ISO 3200 (no noise reduction) and the 12mpx and 50mpx of S23U with EXPERTRAW, the lens of S23U are not able to resolve correctly 50Mpx moving a little out from the center, much worse in higher mpxs, so this camera at 200mpx is useless because of the lenses not able to resolve and the noisy sensor.
If you check the chart, at 50Mpx the lens resolves well in the center, moving a bit from the center aberrations start to appear.
At 12mpx the lens resolution is acceptable center to border, with much less aberrations compared to 50mpx but still we see the cheap glass used.
This is a nice test to do in any phone to understand if the phone brands are able to resolve the mpx they promote, in the case of Samsung is able to resolve 50mpx in the center only.
M6 was shoot at ISO 3200 without noise reduction and it destroys the S23U camera in any aspect and the difference is pretty big. (we didn't include color rendition here because the situation of S23U could be much worse)
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CONCLUSION: if you want to do simple point and shoots with low quality glass and a sensor with noticeable noise reduction, use the phone.
Right there, that looks the smudging effect seen on the S23U. It's present on the N10+ at times as well... generally more widespread in the image though.
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Right there, that looks the smudging effect seen on the S23U. It's present on the N10+ at times as well... generally more widespread in the image though.
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That could be caused by the noise reduction in the sensor because it has lot of noise, the pixel pitch of S23U is half of the size of the M6 sensor.
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That could be caused by the noise reduction in the sensor because it has lot of noise, the pixel pitch of S23U is half of the size of the M6 sensor.
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Odd it's just that one spot. Just saying... You start testing cams invariably it gets to be a pain rather than what it's suppose to be, a pleasure.
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Odd it's just that one spot. Just saying... You start testing cams invariably it gets to be a pain rather than what it's suppose to be, a pleasure.
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Correct and for the pleasure I have the M6, a real pleasure... everyone that likes photography should try a mirrorless DSLR in any brand they like to see the difference.
You and some others have mentioned realraw. Is this Samsung expert raw that is branded with some other name in other countries? I search for a realraw apk and couldn't find any so assuming it is expert raw you did your tests with?
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You and some others have mentioned realraw. Is this Samsung expert raw that is branded with some other name in other countries? I search for a realraw apk and couldn't find any so assuming it is expert raw you did your tests with?
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Is my mistake, is EXPERTRAW not realraw, I corrected the original post.
For the people that want check sharpness and to do their own testing printing the chart, I will attach the PDF that is better printed in A3 or around that size.
It almost seems like some (very few) people are trying to replace their main camera with a cell phone camera.... lol....
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It almost seems like some (very few) people are trying to replace their main camera with a cell phone camera.... lol....
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Honestly, it really depends on your needs. The best camera is the one you have with you.
I have a Canon R6 with a 70-200mm and other lenses but I definitely don't have this on me all the time while I have this phone with me at all times and so I still want to get the best out of it, hence why I also use a mix of stock cam 12mp, stock 50mp and GCAM.
Knowing the strengths and limitations of each tool / mode is how you can get better result. For example, using 50mp mode I frame more than I need so I can then crop and avoid part of the edge softness. Still end up with a file that's more detailed than the 12mp. For everyday though gcam 12mp is good enough.
But when I went to shoot at a friend's wedding of course the phone is out of the question and I used the R6. But when travelling and hiking, I challenged myself to travel light (got tired of carrying heavy gear around all the time) and managed to get very good results that did some very fine prints for our home. Again, I'm not selling my travel pictures online etc. So having the top quality isn't always necessary. In the end for social media sharing and small prints at home you should usually be fine with phone pictures.
It really depends on the intended purpose of your pictures (or willingness to carry heavy gear around) so I don't think it's fair to say that one is better than the other. In terms of pure quality of course dslr will win but there are many other considerations to be had.
Everyone knows a professional camera is going to take better pictures than any cell phone camera. So what's the point of all this? Nobody is gonna lug their main camera around with them everywhere they go. But the S23U does take greaat pictures at 12 mpx and with telephoto 3x and 10x. It also makes phone calls, has social media, stream movies and plays games which is something your DSLR will never be able to do. Nobody here bought the phone thinking they were getting a DSLR quality camera. I don't really give two chits because the phone does what its been designed to do. If you were expecting a DSLR in a phone well sorry you are disappointed because no phone cameras are ever going to match the quality of $5000 DSLR and lenses.
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R in a phone well sorry you are disappointed because no phone cameras are ever going to match the quality of $5000 DSLR and lenses.
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I agree with the point of PhilMorin, you can buy a new camera expending usd 700 with a weight of less than 600grs and a quality far superior than any phone, if you buy an used camera you pay much less...
There are lot of places that compares phone cameras with DSLR...
citytrader said:
I agree with the point of PhilMorin, you can buy a new camera expending usd 700 with a weight of less than 600grs and a quality far superior than any phone, if you buy an used camera you pay much less...
There are lot of places that compares phone cameras with DSLR...
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The heavier pro cams are better shooters; better and more handholds, more weight means more inertia and helps keep the cam steady, better control layout/controls and view finder. Pro cams are a joy to shoot with and it's a press pass in itself
Doubles as a weapon when in hand especially with a 70-200 f/2.8 on it.
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The heavier pro cams are better shooters; better and more handholds, more weight means more inertia and helps keep the cam steady, better control layout/controls and view finder. Pro cams are a joy to shoot with and it's a press pass in itself
Doubles as a weapon when in hand especially with a 70-200 f/2.8 on it.
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LOL! I'll try running before I start hammering at someone with that setup. Makes for quite an expensive weapon
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LOL! I'll try running before I start hammering at someone with that setup. Makes for quite an expensive weapon
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I've shot in Philly's bad sections. I hold it by the lens base next to my chest. Basically a 5# hammer. Rather slam it into someone's face than have it stolen. Jogging only works if you see them coming as they tend to be lazy
Had some bangers come up to me at a fair once. Turned out all they wanted to do is pose, that was interesting. Be friendly but be prepared...