I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
S20 FE 5G Sample A Sample B
S23 Ultra Sample A Sample B
ihaveworms said:
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
S20 FE 5G Sample A Sample B
S23 Ultra Sample A Sample B
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Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
dazed1 said:
Install goodlock/camera assistant.
Turn on soft pic medium
Turn off scene optimizer
Or use GCAM
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Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
Have you tried the high efficiency pictures option? It saves pictures in HEIF instead of JPEG, maybe it'll help?
GroovyGeek said:
Yes on 1 and 2
Hard no on 3
After installing several versions of GCAM and doing side by side shots I have concluded that there is absolutely nothing you can get with GCAM that you can't get with stock.
Part of the problem is that if you set your screen to vivid the images will looks positively horrendous, particularly saturated blue colors. You need to tweek the white balance as suggested in another recent thread, which heavily desaturates blues and somewhat desaturates reds. You can also adjust saturation, shadows, etc additionally in pro mode.
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Go back some posts/pageand fibd my gcam vs stock post
ihaveworms said:
I am coming from a S20 FE 5G and upgraded to the S23 Ultra for camera(s) as I take many pictures. One of the most common pictures I take is of my cat and I noticed that the pictures I am getting from the S20FE look better. The fur looks more detailed out of the S20FE as well and his fur color is more accurate. My first impression is the photos coming from the primary sensor out of the S23 Ultra are kinda a disappointment. They seem over processed. I know there is a Pro RAW mode, but I would expect the default jpg processing to be as good as or better than the S20FE.
These are both shot in auto mode, no added filters.
S20 FE 5G Sample A Sample B
S23 Ultra Sample A Sample B
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The focus should be done to the same point, is not the case for Samples A, and you should share what is the complete camera configuration including the Camera Assistant.
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Any specific one? There are multiple threads on this topic. This one?
Image quality not great
Took pictures of red roses I bought for my wife. They are pink. My old Note 10 reproduce color perfectly. Not sure how much I am loving this new phone. Anyone else notice this?
forum.xda-developers.com
As mentioned I have found it possible to reproduce the "more natural" GCAM results by tweaking down saturation, shadows, and brightness a few clicks in pro mode. Don't see a reason to futz with GCAM at the moment but open to changing my mind.
Speaking of which, why did Samsung decide to brighten the shadows when you move the slider to the left? Literally every other piece of software brightens shadows when you slide to the right.
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Go back some posts/pageand fibd my gcam vs stock post
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Did another test today with both GCAM and LCM and I still can't find a reason to use anything other than tweaked stock. The images below are of the corner of my couch, the blanket on the right is neutral gray, the couch itself is typical dark leather color with no orange overtones. First image is tuned stock, second is GCAM, third is LCM. Stock is BY FAR the most muted and faithful color reproduction.
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Listen dude, colors are a preference thing and they can be tuned. Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
There is not a single stock phone that can beat gcam in overall output, sure the phone at stock can have a bit more accurate colors, a bit better white balance, and so on, maybe even main video or portrait shots, but thats it, everything else will favor GCAM.
Share you settings from the xml/apk you use, and tell me what do you want to improve, i will help you fix it.
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Artifacts, noise, details. sharpness, textures are much harder to get from the stock camera phone, even with the tweaks that i suggested.
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Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
citytrader said:
Its ok if you enjoy twaeking GCAM but regarding what you wrote about stock, that is not true and I demostrated it in a picture I posted before from S22U, GCAM use is a none sense with this phone.
Share in this post your best XML for GCAM you have and I will do a test between the two.
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In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
dazed1 said:
In low light hdr/high contrast scene the stock camera is very bad. Colors are preference and can be tweaked.
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You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
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You write a lot but I don't see you sharing the files for testing GCAM...
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Example, very low light scene
Let me guess, now you will claim the stock is good and better right?
Stock camera, 1/4 shutter speed, night mode, 5 sec (maximum exposure)
GCAM 1/3 shutter speed, night mode
This why GCAM is a none sense.
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This why GCAM is a none sense.
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Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
I'm playing with my S23 Ultra for 2 weeks now, and it can sometimes give good results in 50Mpix ExpertRAW, but GCAM is just more reliable. Every time I snap a picture it looks the same, with no halos, artifacts, etc. With the Stock app, it is not the case. Over processing is just ridiculous. And most annoying part is that it, unfortunately, happens in ExpertRAWs as well. On top of that, seems like the process is not being applied in the same way for each of the photo parts. Look at this comparison of the iPhone 14 PRO RAW 48 Mpix (left) and S23 Ultra ExpertRAW 50 Mpix (right).
Look at the center of the picture. For Samsung, the details of the wooden structure are gone. This part of the picture has very strong Noise Reduction applied. Looks just ugly. And then below that block and above, you have parts, that are being processed in another way round - over sharpened. For both pictures, sliders for noise reduction and sharpening are at a minimum. So this is the main reason for using GCAM and not stock software in Samsung.
That said, it is sad that Samsung cannot make processing better, because this sensor has so much potential!
ajarosz said:
Your picture is a great example of why GCAM has so much sense. First of all, looks more natural than the other three, but...
I took your comparison and just pushed the sharpness on the GCAM to the level of others and voila, it has more details than the other 3. You can sharpen them as much as you want, but the detail will not be there. Samsung is just applying so much sharpening, that as long as you are not looking at pictures on something better than the smartphone screen or not zooming, it can look fine. GCAM gives you flexibility, by far more natural look, and more details, but not pushing unnecessary sharpness to some crazy levels.
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I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
citytrader said:
I will do the test again because I didn't pay attention of the white part of the picture loosing details with PRO RAW, with GCAM there is an issue that you have and prevented me to sharpen the pictures, take a look at the irregularities that appears from GCAM, I don't know if that could be solved. (Horizontal lines and some kind of grids that are not present in the real picture)
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Currently I agree with you with the stock cam, is a hit an miss in the results... we need a more refined firmware.
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It Look like artefacts from resizing. For me it is miss for most of the time. If I do not resize the image it ok i woudl say, but only the. If light conditions are perfect, then 50 mix from expert raw is ok and can have more details than gcam. But if there is no enough light, then i was not able to produce anyrhing that is even close to results from gcam. Pictures from stock app and camera raws are very inconsistent. Like I can have picture where in some places I have oversharpened result, while just few pixel in any dirextion from there there is a spot with no details at all because of the noise reduction. I hope that samsung will do something about it. Here is a link to the example of what I am talking about: Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88226029
All this reminds me of S20 Ultra when the 108MP sensor was first introduced. Took more than 6 months to tune the software for it.
I'm bracing for the same bumpy ride here....the current images we are getting are beta quality.
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Seems like the camera by default oversaturates everyting!
I found this on the Sprint community forums[/URL] so I thought I would share it as it made my pictures look a lot better
ACHAN18 said:
Camera>options>image adjustment> saturation>-1. that should fix the redness
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I don't have a good subject to show you what I mean, so I just took a picture of a picture from my LCD (Google images! Yay!)
Please post your own examples and tell me if you think it makes the pictures look better!
The original Sprint thread: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/90509?start=15&tstart=0
If you read that thread people are flipping out over this issue, but -1 Saturation seems to fix it for me
What do you guys think?
[EDIT: I moved the texts boxes as they were backwards! Left pic is -1 saturation; right pic is default! The chunks of the girl's shoulder in the text boxes is inverted!]
Kujila said:
Seems like the camera by default oversaturates everyting!
I found this on the Sprint community forums[/URL] so I thought I would share it as it made my pictures look a lot better
I don't have a good subject to show you what I mean, so I just took a picture of a picture from my LCD (Google images! Yay!)
Please post your own examples and tell me if you think it makes the pictures look better!
The original Sprint thread: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/90509?start=15&tstart=0
If you read that thread people are flipping out over this issue, but -1 Saturation seems to fix it for me
What do you guys think?
[EDIT: I moved the texts boxes as they were backwards! Left pic is -1 saturation; right pic is default! The chunks of the girl's shoulder in the text boxes is inverted!]
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Did this morning while I was comparing the pictures with my galaxy nexus, you just need to be careful some pictures will look like crap after this, one thing I hate is taking pics in the dark with this phone it doesn't focus like the nexus pictures look blurry, any suggestions?
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I found that you can actually tap the screen on the subject you want to focus on and the phone will make a sound and focus accordingly to what you tapped...
Did you try that yet?
Thanks
Kujila said:
I found that you can actually tap the screen on the subject you want to focus on and the phone will make a sound and focus accordingly to what you tapped...
Did you try that yet?
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In dark light conditions does work but doesn't turn on flash so is just focusing on the dark which ain't helpfull at all
Try to take over 10 pictures in the dark, and it sucks
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Unlike the galaxy nexus in the first try
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i found that it's better if i make sure the flash is on, rather than auto...
maybe a software fix will be in the works
yeah set flash to ON
also select "Close up" instead of automatic and then tap the object
The main problem is that the display is oversaturated. Washing out the pictures you take won't help the display problem.
PS: That thread is about the display saturation, not the camera saturation. There are a couple of camera posts in it, but they are off-base.
I just shot some test images of an X-Rite Digital Color Checker SG reference target.
I shot with 5500K lights and with just the camera's flash, with normal saturation and with the saturation turned down one click. I let the camera use automatic color balance, as there is no setting for my 5500K lights.
I then opened the images in PhotoShop 6 and took readings off the various color and grayscale patches.
With the saturation set normally, the images were slightly oversaturated, but not bad. The gray scales were very good on the whites, but as you get darker, they have a lot of green fall-off.
I think the camera shoots well enough. The green fall-off may be partly due to the automatic white balance trying to cope with my 5500K lights, but is is visible in the flash images too. It's not bad.
Taking one click of saturation out definitely ruins the images. It's far too much. If you could take out a tenth of a click, it would be pretty close to perfect.
Unreasnbl said:
The main problem is that the display is oversaturated. Washing out the pictures you take won't help the display problem.
PS: That thread is about the display saturation, not the camera saturation. There are a couple of camera posts in it, but they are off-base.
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I havn't noticed any oversaturation of this display. The only place I notice it is in the camera app.
Lol its a cell phone camera not a Canon 7D. I really think alot of people are starting to expect way too much from cell phone cameras lol.
SPreston2001 said:
Lol its a cell phone camera not a Canon 7D. I really think alot of people are starting to expect way too much from cell phone cameras lol.
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As I said above, I have tested the camera and it is fine. It's the best cell phone camera I have ever used or tested.
The display is not fine, but people keep confusing the display problem with a camera problem.
Since the OP quoted and referenced a display problem thread in this camera thread, I thought I would try to clear things up. The advice quoted by the OP is bad advice.
So again ... the camera is fine. Don't try to "fix" what's not broken.
IMO it's not the camera that saturates the pics it's the screen. When I tranfer my pictures on to my mac they look fine. If you browse pictures on Facebook with the phone you get the same oversaturation of color. Somene should work on a fix for the screen not the camera.
Unreasnbl said:
As I said above, I have tested the camera and it is fine. It's the best cell phone camera I have ever used or tested.
The display is not fine, but people keep confusing the display problem with a camera problem.
Since the OP quoted and referenced a display problem thread in this camera thread, I thought I would try to clear things up. The advice quoted by the OP is bad advice.
So again ... the camera is fine. Don't try to "fix" what's not broken.
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Yeah the display is a bit saturated but overall im satisfied with the display especially the viewing angles!
Unreasnbl said:
I just shot some test images of an X-Rite Digital Color Checker SG reference target.
I shot with 5500K lights and with just the camera's flash, with normal saturation and with the saturation turned down one click. I let the camera use automatic color balance, as there is no setting for my 5500K lights.
I then opened the images in PhotoShop 6 and took readings off the various color and grayscale patches.
With the saturation set normally, the images were slightly oversaturated, but not bad. The gray scales were very good on the whites, but as you get darker, they have a lot of green fall-off.
I think the camera shoots well enough. The green fall-off may be partly due to the automatic white balance trying to cope with my 5500K lights, but is is visible in the flash images too. It's not bad.
Taking one click of saturation out definitely ruins the images. It's far too much. If you could take out a tenth of a click, it would be pretty close to perfect.
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While its obvuious that you know more about photography than I do, I tend to disagree slightly with your statement. When I mms pictures to others with phones including iPhone 4s, ET4G, and NS4G the oversaturation of pink hues is still present. In addition, I believe if this was solely an issue of the screen then this oversaturatuon would be present across the board and not isolated to photographs taken with the on-board camera.
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Yeah, pictures of my hands and arms look all bright pink, even when I view them on my laptop or desktop or tablet. In reality my skin is olive-ish and certainly not bright pink.
I am no expert at screens or photos so I'm really not sure what is going on with the pics.
The display oversaturation is constant, not just when using the camera. Watch some video on it.
The camera is a bit off, as I said above, but I think it's not bad.
Also, I have only tested my phone, I am sure there are some out there that are better and some that are worse.
mlin said:
While its obvuious that you know more about photography than I do, I tend to disagree slightly with your statement. When I mms pictures to others with phones including iPhone 4s, ET4G, and NS4G the oversaturation of pink hues is still present. In addition, I believe if this was solely an issue of the screen then this oversaturatuon would be present across the board and not isolated to photographs taken with the on-board camera.
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Here are some some daytime shots comparisons with an Lg G4. Just move the slider to view one photo or the other...
https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxt...html?uid=e13a233a-e5dc-11e5-a524-0e7075bba956
https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxt...html?uid=aba32694-e5dd-11e5-a524-0e7075bba956
https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxt...html?uid=cbcf4704-e5dd-11e5-a524-0e7075bba956
P.S. Sorry if they are out of place here. If so, admins feel free to delete this post.
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the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
icugotit2 said:
the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
Wow! The Edge does so much better! Way to much brightness and less detail on the G4.
There is a bit too much sharpening on the third comparison on the Edge side, but it still looks better than the G4 that is kind of blurry.
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Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
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When looking at full screen colours on the cars are better on the g4 for picture number 1. However, I really feel the contrast and white balance are better on the s7. Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
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Good point. On the other hand, in the same picture the S7E missed the different colour of the sky/clouds at the end of the alleyway, trough the branches. The next comparison shows similar stuff - in the one with the statue - the G4 captures more of the color in the sky (actually closer to what it was in reality). While in the third one both are similar sky-wise.
Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a
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Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a bigger sensor like Panasonic did with the CM1. I would have loved to see a CM2! Their 20MPx was producing better results than most dedicated cameras!
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Anyway out of some software bugs with the S7 (Samsung mail crashed in loops and Play Store kept saying data in background need to be activated when they were already... each time solved by a restart, the S7 is a nice piece of technology.
:good:
Phil
Took a picture of our new Pup, first picture using the the S7 edge.
Impressed with how awesome it came out, just used a tool to blur the background around him.
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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Those of us coming from less than spectacular cameras, such as me (HTC one m8), I'm finding the camera incredibly awesome. I got this phone mainly for the camera. The focus is super quick, the color reproduction is very good and I do enjoy the pro more the Galaxy S7 offers.
Were this pictures taken with manual or auto mode on G4, since my son had a G4 and it's auto mode really sucks.
Getting excited .. wish it's 18th now that I can take my hands on this beast..
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Loss of detail in normal/good light conditions vs Note 4 / S5
S7 camera looks a bit over sharpened for my taste at the same time there is more details in every picture (shooting raw will be a solution for this).
Colors looks better and more realistic on the S7 (not knowing how the original scene looks), but the first shot is a bit too much contrast.
Overall the S7 is the better camera in this shootout.
pogi.paul0119 said:
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
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i saw an article in GSM arena wherein they compared the Sony and Samsung Sensors and theres no much difference.. they are both good in different aspects
Front facing camera focus issue
Anyone else have issues with the front facing camera not focusing?
Here are two pictures as examples, one with the front facing and the other with the rear camera
This shooter is top notch. Love the Pro mode. That's the killer app I've been waiting for from Samsung or Android. The manual controls are easy to toggle and the snappy hardware enhances the experience.
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Please Samsung, ease down on the artificial image sharpening: youtube.com/watch?v=OR5UziCqXew
Have anyone tried 10 sek shutter by hand? Is it possible to hold it still enough?
As I got a P10 (sadly not the P10 Plus) at MWC, I have been out and about in Barcelona taking photos.
I thought it was probably a good idea to create a thread for others to post to.
Here are my first photos at night:
https://jmcomms.com/2017/02/26/huawei-p10-night-photos-around-barcelona-and-first-impressions/
Followed by some in the late afternoon:
https://jmcomms.com/2017/02/27/huawei-p10-more-photos-around-barcelona-during-mwc-2017/
And an open Google Photos gallery that anyone can contribute to.
https://goo.gl/photos/BCfjQvk6zQmwm9w79
The camera is pretty much identical to the Mate 9, but it does have the new portrait functions (that may come to the Mate 9 in a future update).
It's a nice phone, but one complaint is that with the phone being so thin, you can easily grip the phone in such a way that you can't use the on-screen shutter to take a photo. It doesn't discount any other touches on the screen, so I've had many moments where I missed a shot because my thumb was EVER SO slightly touching the edge of the screen.
Sometimes bezels have their uses!
4K video samples; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCuoPs57Q4Q
jonmorris said:
It's a nice phone, but one complaint is that with the phone being so thin, you can easily grip the phone in such a way that you can't use the on-screen shutter to take a photo. It doesn't discount any other touches on the screen, so I've had many moments where I missed a shot because my thumb was EVER SO slightly touching the edge of the screen.
Sometimes bezels have their uses!
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You can always use the volume keys as a shutter.
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You can always use the volume keys as a shutter.
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Yes, and I do but it's not in the ideal position. I wish more companies would use two stage shutters like Sony.
I made some night shots for testing:
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All tree are made in ISO 50, the first two are at 30 sec. shutter speed, the third one at 4 sec.
I think the camera is really good at night with the right settings. I tried to make similar pics with my i6S but they weren't that good.
Got my P10 yesterday and here is my first shot (with aperture mode).
Jannomag said:
I made some night shots for testing:
All tree are made in ISO 50, the first two are at 30 sec. shutter speed, the third one at 4 sec.
I think the camera is really good at night with the right settings. I tried to make similar pics with my i6S but they weren't that good.
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Great shots. On your iPhone have you or did you try using Nightcap Pro?
P10 is still using a BSI CMOS but the night shots were really not bad. It'd be better if it upgraded to Stacked CMOS like Exmor RS.
Is it good with moving subjects? I have an OP3 and the camera has major difficulties in handling kids and babies, especially indoors, even with decent light.
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Is it good with moving subjects? I have an OP3 and the camera has major difficulties in handling kids and babies, especially indoors, even with decent light.
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Would be interested in this as well. I have an OP3T and can't shoot my dog and nephew indoors.
I managed to test the P10 out in the store, and EXIF showed, that it uses faster shutter than the 3T indoors. Did not manage to shoot any people tough :/
I have it for 4 days now and its camera is MUCH MUCH better than OP3. Better results than iphone 7, just the colors a bit more fake, sometimes. Fast camera, shocking fast fingerprint reader, charging speed and battery feels a bit better on OP3, not big differences.
Screen is dirtier than most phones though. I'm getting used to it. Also, headphones volume a bit thin.
But camera... I hated Op3 camera, my baby photos were always blurry. Not the case anymore.
davebugyi said:
Would be interested in this as well. I have an OP3T and can't shoot my dog and nephew indoors.
I managed to test the P10 out in the store, and EXIF showed, that it uses faster shutter than the 3T indoors. Did not manage to shoot any people tough :/
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vicusbass said:
I have it for 4 days now and its camera is MUCH MUCH better than OP3. Better results than iphone 7, just the colors a bit more fake, sometimes. Fast camera, shocking fast fingerprint reader, charging speed and battery feels a bit better on OP3, not big differences.
Screen is dirtier than most phones though. I'm getting used to it. Also, headphones volume a bit thin.
But camera... I hated Op3 camera, my baby photos were always blurry. Not the case anymore.
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This sounds fantastic. Do you still have the OP3? Can you try to shoot some pics indoors abouth the same object with the two and tell the EXIF (details option in gallery) ? No need to post the pics, just the ISO, Shutter between the P10 and OP3.
Thank you.
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P10 is still using a BSI CMOS but the night shots were really not bad. It'd be better if it upgraded to Stacked CMOS like Exmor RS.
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The IMX286 used as the color sensor in the P10 is listed as a Exmor rs sensor on the Wiki. Also in the mate 9 review on GSM arena. They wrote, that the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7.
I don't own the phone. But I'm considering buying it as a replacement for my HTC One M8. When i bought that, the camera wasn't a priority. But that is changed for my next purchase.
ClausG76 said:
The IMX286 used as the color sensor in the P10 is listed as a Exmor rs sensor on the Wiki. Also in the mate 9 review on GSM arena. They wrote, that the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7.
I don't own the phone. But I'm considering buying it as a replacement for my HTC One M8. When i bought that, the camera wasn't a priority. But that is changed for my next purchase.
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Can you explain a bit how is it: "the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7." ? I'm interested in this phone but f:2.2 is more than the f:1.8 of P10 Plus. Anyway, i dont know how much can be the shutter speed in pro mode.
Loving my P10 Plus, The camera is amazing, Here are some of my photos.
http://imgur.com/a/bQIki
http://imgur.com/a/dNjy6
http://imgur.com/a/ftgPI
http://imgur.com/a/WCsBs
Unfortunately no. My OP3 had a lot of dust on the lens, inside (i had a lot of phones, this never happened with any...). So I sent it to the Service Center and... DHL lost it.
Anyway. I remember in auto mode OP3 was always 1/17 with ISO from 1000 to 3000+. Any movement turned into blur usually. Very annoying. Then they made some update and it was using 1/20 and lower ISO. Still blurry. Manual shots were slightly better, sometimes.
With P10, same living room, it does 1/17 to 1/25, ISO from 200 to 640. BUT no blur anymore, so most likely OP3 problem is the damn postprocessing. In manual mode, you can really catch the action. Outside, ISO goes to 50 in good light. Interesting, sometimes indoors the picture looks brighter than the reality in auto mode, but in a good way ☺
Greens are slightly fake sometime.
davebugyi said:
Would be interested in this as well. I have an OP3T and can't shoot my dog and nephew indoors.
I managed to test the P10 out in the store, and EXIF showed, that it uses faster shutter than the 3T indoors. Did not manage to shoot any people tough :/
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davebugyi said:
This sounds fantastic. Do you still have the OP3? Can you try to shoot some pics indoors abouth the same object with the two and tell the EXIF (details option in gallery) ? No need to post the pics, just the ISO, Shutter between the P10 and OP3.
Thank you.
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No editing.
vicusbass said:
Unfortunately no. My OP3 had a lot of dust on the lens, inside (i had a lot of phones, this never happened with any...). So I sent it to the Service Center and... DHL lost it.
Anyway. I remember in auto mode OP3 was always 1/17 with ISO from 1000 to 3000+. Any movement turned into blur usually. Very annoying. Then they made some update and it was using 1/20 and lower ISO. Still blurry. Manual shots were slightly better, sometimes.
With P10, same living room, it does 1/17 to 1/25, ISO from 200 to 640. BUT no blur anymore, so most likely OP3 problem is the damn postprocessing. In manual mode, you can really catch the action. Outside, ISO goes to 50 in good light. Interesting, sometimes indoors the picture looks brighter than the reality in auto mode, but in a good way
Greens are slightly fake sometime.
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Many thanks! I am getting mine and getting rid of the OP 3T on Tuesday. The OP is a fast and nice phone, but a lacks a decent allrounder camera.
SebastianAlejandro said:
Can you explain a bit how is it: "the phone is benefitting from the light input of both the sensors. So the f:2.2 apeture is actually f:1.7." ? I'm interested in this phone but f:2.2 is more than the f:1.8 of P10 Plus. Anyway, i dont know how much can be the shutter speed in pro mode.
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Hello Sebastian
This is a quote from the review on GSMArena:
"You'd argue that the f/2.2 aperture is quite dim by today's standards, to which Leica replies that you have two of those, so double the light. In effect that makes the aperture f/1.6 (2.2 divided by the square root of 2)."
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_9-review-1520p8.php
Also the arpeture on the plus model is still better, but not much
http://m.androidcentral.com/huawei-p10-vs-p10-plus-camera-comparison
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Thanks for sharing your beautifull pictures. It realy helps me to decide to buy this phone.
KyleGriffiths said:
Loving my P10 Plus, The camera is amazing, Here are some of my photos.
http://imgur.com/a/bQIki
http://imgur.com/a/dNjy6
http://imgur.com/a/ftgPI
http://imgur.com/a/WCsBs
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Love the photos. Have you used an older Huawei or Honor phone previously to the P10 Plus?
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Don't hesitate to post your settings, samples and comparisons !
Before installing
If you have installed an update of Oneplus Camera before, you have to understand that the update is "above" the original system application. Because my mod replace the original system application, you will never see a difference because the current app will be the updated app and not the system app.
To remove the update, go into the App Info of Oneplus Camera, press the tree dots in the top right and press "Uninstall Updates".
Changelog
Code:
[B]2018-09-23[/B]
- Based on 2.8.20 (New UI design and others improvements)
- Fix issue of wrong orientation
- Compatible with Android 8.1 and 9
[B]2018-08-12 TEST [/B]
- First release
- Based on new version 2.7.3
- Possibility to control sharpness post-applied
- Possibility to control noise reduction
- Only working on OP6 ! I don't have made a version compatible both for OP5 and OP6 yet.
- This is a test version. I hope everyone plays with options available to find out bests configurations at certain conditions (bright light, mid-light and low-light). I can after that define a pattern to be applied according to what you decide.
Downloads
Magisk Module
Older (2018-08-12 TEST)
Big credits for
@Arnova8G2 , massive thanks for helping me understand better Camera2 API and motivates me to do all this. Without him, this mod would be not here today.
@DorianX for finding solution to get Panorama working
Reserved
Installed and it's working perfectly!
It is dark here so I'll do more testing next morning.
WHOA
My biggest issue on the OP6 camera is the heavy oversharpening and too much noise reduction (aka water color effect). I rather have a little bit of grain like Gcam does while showing way more fine detail and texture.
Let's see what this one does.
Please add a saturation, tint (the OP6 is quite on the magenta side) and contrast slider if possible
Will do some tests and comparisons tomorrow.
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My first observations:
Edge sharpening off doesn't mean sharpening is off. The picture is a bit cleaner already though - no more oil-painting effect. I wish it would be possible to dial it down even further though.
Noise reduction off means that chroma reduction still works the same but luma noise reduction is greatly reduced. Way more detail but also some film-like grain. Fast and minimal cause too much of a detail and texture loss. Off is perfect in terms of detail, but lots of noise. Is it possible to have something in-between?
The picture output is way closer to gcam!
Thanks for the mod! @txx1219
Will keep me from using gcam in many situations.
Damm!
Now that i going return the phone!!
Using the app from now. Tomorrow I will do tests to see how.
Thanks!!!
deezid said:
WHOA
My biggest issue on the OP6 camera is the heavy oversharpening and too much noise reduction (aka water color effect). I rather have a little bit of grain like Gcam does while showing way more fine detail and texture.
Let's see what this one does.
Please add a saturation, tint (the OP6 is quite on the magenta side) and contrast slider if possible
Will do some tests and comparisons tomorrow.
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My first observations:
Edge sharpening off doesn't mean sharpening is off. The picture is a bit cleaner already though - no more oil-painting effect. I wish it would be possible to dial it down even further though.
Noise reduction off means that chroma reduction still works the same but luma noise reduction is greatly reduced. Way more detail but also some film-like grain. Fast and minimal cause too much of a detail and texture loss. Off is perfect in terms of detail, but lots of noise. Is it possible to have something in-between?
The picture output is way closer to gcam!
Thanks for the mod! @txx1219
Will keep me from using gcam in many situations.
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What I don't like about the stock cam is that it's never sharp enough and always tries to smooth everything out which I hate. It would be nice to have the pic process exactly the way it is shown in the viewfinder before you take it. The Google Camera's that we have are much sharper but have too many other bugs. This camera M doesn't really take good quality photos. It's similar quality to the ones on the older builds of Lineage custom roms before the camera fixes were applied.
But Potraits images are better on stock OOS AS compared to camera M
Installed it on the DP3, seems that it works but the camera app looks funky.
Is it possible that you could apply these mods to the Android P cam? Here is the download link from the APK i pulled from beta 3: http://www.mediafire.com/file/6a4zto66rrrt62n/OnePlusCamera.apk/file Thank you!
mingo_mgx said:
Is it possible that you could apply these mods to the Android P cam? Here is the download link from the APK i pulled from beta 3: http://www.mediafire.com/file/6a4zto66rrrt62n/OnePlusCamera.apk/file Thank you!
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Why not wait till the final android p release? No doubt that the camera apk will be updated also then
Daylight conclusions
ZSL for both sharpening and nr (standard OP6 setting) creates painting like photos. There's almost no more detail on the gray bricks left.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Op3vP0OxTQ-qpW1Lzj6E7jYtzx0ax0i5qw/view?usp=sharing
Both set to off creates a very unprocessed looking image, perfect for further editing with good detail.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOpKS5Foz5Rd6llKZYcVckuPqRncCgUr-g/view?usp=sharing
A good compromise for a ready to go but not as overprocessed image with still lots of texture left on the bricks, no watercolor effect either, just some sharpening halos
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHS1_Nvd6V3EO_V76AseTPPy32gHPuJsug/view?usp=sharing
Insane amount of texture is there when using sharpening set to fast and nr set to off, for people who like it gritty:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xffl73yv2vuWca074JlG1YvWfsisVPAHWA/view?usp=sharing
sorry for the changing light conditions, shouldn't affect the cameras' performance though.
Question:
Is it possible to further reduce sharpening and nr than "fast". Something between "Off" and "fast" would be amazing.
deezid said:
Daylight conclusions
ZSL for both sharpening and nr (standard OP6 setting) creates painting like photos. There's almost no more detail on the gray bricks left.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Op3vP0OxTQ-qpW1Lzj6E7jYtzx0ax0i5qw/view?usp=sharing
Both set to off creates a very unprocessed looking image, perfect for further editing with good detail.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOpKS5Foz5Rd6llKZYcVckuPqRncCgUr-g/view?usp=sharing
A good compromise for a ready to go but not as overprocessed image with still lots of texture left on the bricks, no watercolor effect either, just some sharpening halos
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHS1_Nvd6V3EO_V76AseTPPy32gHPuJsug/view?usp=sharing
Insane amount of texture is there when using sharpening set to fast and nr set to off, for people who like it gritty:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xffl73yv2vuWca074JlG1YvWfsisVPAHWA/view?usp=sharing
sorry for the changing light conditions, shouldn't affect the cameras' performance though.
Question:
Is it possible to further reduce sharpening and nr than "fast". Something between "Off" and "fast" would be amazing.
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Really good photos and nice garden too
The amount of detail missing between the 1st photo and the last photo is shocking, for me personally fast+no nr is the best option by far.
daleski75 said:
Really good photos and nice garden too
Which settings did you use for the 3rd photo?
The amount of detail missing between the 1st photo and the last photo is shocking, for me personally fast+no nr is the best option by far.
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Thanks, it's set to "fast" for both sharpening and noise reduction.
Both fast is the best Option?
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Both fast is the best Option?
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I would say so, until we have the option to dial noise reduction and especially sharpening even further down. OFF is too much for this tiny sensor.
OnePlus camera M for op6, :good:
Thank you.
deezid said:
Daylight conclusions
ZSL for both sharpening and nr (standard OP6 setting) creates painting like photos. There's almost no more detail on the gray bricks left.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Op3vP0OxTQ-qpW1Lzj6E7jYtzx0ax0i5qw/view?usp=sharing
Both set to off creates a very unprocessed looking image, perfect for further editing with good detail.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOpKS5Foz5Rd6llKZYcVckuPqRncCgUr-g/view?usp=sharing
A good compromise for a ready to go but not as overprocessed image with still lots of texture left on the bricks, no watercolor effect either, just some sharpening halos
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aHS1_Nvd6V3EO_V76AseTPPy32gHPuJsug/view?usp=sharing
Insane amount of texture is there when using sharpening set to fast and nr set to off, for people who like it gritty:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xffl73yv2vuWca074JlG1YvWfsisVPAHWA/view?usp=sharing
sorry for the changing light conditions, shouldn't affect the cameras' performance though.
Question:
Is it possible to further reduce sharpening and nr than "fast". Something between "Off" and "fast" would be amazing.
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That's the issue, there is no options between off and fast.
I'm glad to see that we have the same conclusion : Fast - Fast is the best compromise at the moment.
Also, avoid as much the ZSL - ZSL combination because it produces a lot of oil-painting inconsistent pictures.
My recommandations at the moment are Fast-Fast on good light condition and HQ - HQ on low light condition.
txx1219 said:
That's the issue, there is no options between off and fast.
I'm glad to see that we have the same conclusion : Fast - Fast is the best compromise at the moment.
Also, avoid as much the ZSL - ZSL combination because it produces a lot of oil-painting inconsistent pictures.
My recommandations at the moment are Fast-Fast on good light condition and HQ - HQ on low light condition.
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Pity, really hoped there was something in-between. Maybe let the camera 2 versions (off/fast) at the same time and combine them at 50/50. lol
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Despite the limitations it's nice to have some control over the camera and it's surprised me at just how over processed the image is when using the default options.
I take it the changes we can make affect both the front and rear cameras together?
Hello all
I am observing something that angers me a bit and I see as kind of an issue with the camera and the processing my S23 Ultra does to each shot, more specifically to those taken in 50 and 200mp modes.
I have noticed a considerable oversaturation, increase in warmer tones and maybe even adding of contrast. Whenever there is a scenario where I have oranges or reds, the phone adds more to those and they blow up. I noticed it the other day while shooting a sunset.
The attached pictures are from the standard app, but the same happens in Pro and Expert RAW. The 1st pic is at 12 mp. There is some saturation added, but not too much. The 2nd one is from the 50mp where it goes crazy. After I take the shot it looks good, but it shows that it is processing it and than - crap happens. Same is with the 200 mode.
I spoke with a Samsung rep, I have reset the camera settings, restarted the phone and I am on the newest version, having updated a few hours ago.
Do you see the same behaviour with your S23 Ultras or is it just me? And is there something I can do? I have disabled and disabled the Picture color mode in Dev Options with no effect.
Thank you a lot in advance for helping out!
Korowin said:
Hello all
I am observing something that angers me a bit and I see as kind of an issue with the camera and the processing my S23 Ultra does to each shot, more specifically to those taken in 50 and 200mp modes.
I have noticed a considerable oversaturation, increase in warmer tones and maybe even adding of contrast. Whenever there is a scenario where I have oranges or reds, the phone adds more to those and they blow up. I noticed it the other day while shooting a sunset.
The attached pictures are from the standard app, but the same happens in Pro and Expert RAW. The 1st pic is at 12 mp. There is some saturation added, but not too much. The 2nd one is from the 50mp where it goes crazy. After I take the shot it looks good, but it shows that it is processing it and than - crap happens. Same is with the 200 mode.
I spoke with a Samsung rep, I have reset the camera settings, restarted the phone and I am on the newest version, having updated a few hours ago.
Do you see the same behaviour with your S23 Ultras or is it just me? And is there something I can do? I have disabled and disabled the Picture color mode in Dev Options with no effect.
Thank you a lot in advance for helping out!
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Try to disable "scene optimizer". It could be the issue.
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Try to disable "scene optimizer". It could be the issue.
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That should certainly be done but it does not help a ton. The most significant thing I have found is to always shoot in pro mode and take saturation down 2-3 clicks, click the right most icon on the top of the screen to get access to that setting. As mentioned in the gcam thread I also take down shadows and highlights 2-3 clicks and turn contrast up 2-3 clicks. That tends to expand the dynamic range just enough to make a difference. Make sure to use the additional camera settings to tell the cam to always remember your last mode and filter settings.
And about the image in the OP - getting this type of scene right in "auto everything" mode is tough even for DSLR cameras costing thousands of dollars. You have to futz a bit with the white balance and exposure to get something pleasing on practically any camera. shooting into the sun requires good understanding of what the sensor is seeing, and almost always takes significant post processing to make it look natural
GroovyGeek said:
That should certainly be done but it does not help a ton. The most significant thing I have found is to always shoot in pro mode and take saturation down 2-3 clicks, click the right most icon on the top of the screen to get access to that setting. As mentioned in the gcam thread I also take down shadows and highlights 2-3 clicks and turn contrast up 2-3 clicks. That tends to expand the dynamic range just enough to make a difference. Make sure to use the additional camera settings to tell the cam to always remember your last mode and filter settings.
And about the image in the OP - getting this type of scene right in "auto everything" mode is tough even for DSLR cameras costing thousands of dollars. You have to futz a bit with the white balance and exposure to get something pleasing on practically any camera. shooting into the sun requires good understanding of what the sensor is seeing, and almost always takes significant post processing to make it look natural
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Thank you both. Scene Optimizer didn't help at all and i will try that saturation thing, though it tells me it is not available for RAW mode
Still it is good to hear, that I am not the only one, so it is not a HW issue, but a software one. Right?
I am not expecting for the phone to replace my Nikon 6 II, but use it, when I am taking a walk and shoot something nice and not need to carry the camera and all the additional things with it
Stock app on s23u screen look ok. Because the screen is washed out with too much blue and green.
But when Ive edited the picture on my benq 4k screen 99% color accuracy, wow, indeed over saturated !
I will follow the Gcam thread closely, I think a member is very close to have a config file on point.
Itnis actually a really good point. I javent thought that i also have Vivid mode on the phone and things might look quite different on other devices.
I assume you also have the same issue as I do with the phone oversaturating shots?
Korowin said:
I assume you also have the same issue as I do with the phone oversaturating shots?
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Probably report it with a photo/video evidence and detailed description in Samsung members application.
Klaudas said:
Probably report it with a photo/video evidence and detailed description in Samsung members application.
Already did. I aslo spoke with a rep from Samsun US, but I am not sure if he will log it
Does it mean though that you dont have such an issue with your phone?
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Maybe I have but I like colors on my photos
Well not when the Oranges in your shot are trying to get out of the screen and have a life of their own
Don't use Expert RAW, as best as I can tell it has fewer capabilities that PRO mode in the stock app. Once in pro mode click the icon in the top right of the screen (looks like two concentric circles connected by spokes). Then along the bottom there are a bunch of cryptic icons. When you click on each some verbiage will appear explaining what they are. First one is contrast, second highlights, third shadows, fourth saturation, fifth tint. Take down saturation, highlights and shadows 2-3 clicks and bring contrast up the same amount and see what you think.
Other settings to adjust in tandem: from the modes panel pull down Pro mode to the modes strip at the bottom; under Advanced Picture options change storage mode to either RAW or RAW+JPEG if you want to futz with things in Photoshop; and most importantly under Settings to Keep make sure that camera mode and filters are checked.
Korowin said:
Hello all
I am observing something that angers me a bit and I see as kind of an issue with the camera and the processing my S23 Ultra does to each shot, more specifically to those taken in 50 and 200mp modes.
I have noticed a considerable oversaturation, increase in warmer tones and maybe even adding of contrast. Whenever there is a scenario where I have oranges or reds, the phone adds more to those and they blow up. I noticed it the other day while shooting a sunset.
The attached pictures are from the standard app, but the same happens in Pro and Expert RAW. The 1st pic is at 12 mp. There is some saturation added, but not too much. The 2nd one is from the 50mp where it goes crazy. After I take the shot it looks good, but it shows that it is processing it and than - crap happens. Same is with the 200 mode.
I spoke with a Samsung rep, I have reset the camera settings, restarted the phone and I am on the newest version, having updated a few hours ago.
Do you see the same behavior with your S23 Ultras or is it just me? And is there something I can do? I have disabled and disabled the Picture color mode in Dev Options with no effect.
Thank you a lot in advance for helping out!
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Well, I don't have my S23 Ultra yet and don't know how you got yours so fast. I'm still waiting and I ordered mine on the 16th, day before they were to be released.
That said, all high end phones and my Nikon Camera have settings that affect that, for an example the "VIVID" setting in my Nikon would cause the saturation problem with your photos and can be adjusted.
Also mid to high end Samsung TVs have that too. In the showrooms they're all set to VIVID or something similar to make the picture POP. Samsung phones probably comes that way as well.
So read your manual and find settings for saturation and adjust to your liking.
Thank you, William. To add to it, I actually got mine the next day, the 2nd from my local Samsung store. I guess it depends per country, but we just got the upgrade from 256 to 512 as a benefit and nothing else.
I have taken some shots the past day, having turned off scene optimization and HDR and making sure that I am looking at the RAW shot, not the jpeg and it seems better.
Your Nikon camera, mine including, has a similar option, but it affects the jpeg shot only and not the RAW, where you can do whatever you like. I am kind of expecting the same with the phones RAW shots.
Still when looking at the jpeg, when I have set it up to take both, the jpeg seems worse, while the RAW is ok. I guess it will take some playing with it and it became better and I thank all that spared time to reply to me. The phone is just amazing. Even 3 weeks after I got it, I still can stop wondering how big of an upgrade it is for me and how much I like it
Cheers!
Korowin said:
Thank you, William. To add to it, I actually got mine the next day, the 2nd from my local Samsung store. I guess it depends per country, but we just got the upgrade from 256 to 512 as a benefit and nothing else.
I have taken some shots the past day, having turned off scene optimization and HDR and making sure that I am looking at the RAW shot, not the jpeg and it seems better.
Your Nikon camera, mine including, has a similar option, but it affects the jpeg shot only and not the RAW, where you can do whatever you like. I am kind of expecting the same with the phones RAW shots.
Still when looking at the jpeg, when I have set it up to take both, the jpeg seems worse, while the RAW is ok. I guess it will take some playing with it and it became better and I thank all that spared time to reply to me. The phone is just amazing. Even 3 weeks after I got it, I still can stop wondering how big of an upgrade it is for me and how much I like it
Cheers!
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I got a great deal with my S23 Ultra:
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I ordered this phone for the photography features as I was surprised how good my former S21+ was... I started leaving my Nikons home too much. LOL But these camera phones will never be able to shoot BIF that I like to do. Anyways I'm a semi-pro and here is my website if you care to look.
https://moskovita-photography.com/
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I got a great deal with my S23 Ultra:
View attachment 5847523I ordered this phone for the photography features as I was surprised how good my former S21+ was... I started leaving my Nikons home too much. LOL But these camera phones will never be able to shoot BIF that I like to do. Anyways I'm a semi-pro and here is my website if you care to look.
https://moskovita-photography.com/
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you have quite a lot of amazing shots there, mate. I urge you not to stop taking your Nikon with you . I know it can be quite a lot and when I decide to go full out, my backpack is close to 15 kilos, but oh, well. It is worth it when you take that amazing shot
The phone is quite impressive for a phone camera, but it is still not close to the real deal. The difference is sensor size does matter a lot.
Here are some of mine then too
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Korowin said:
you have quite a lot of amazing shots there, mate. I urge you not to stop taking your Nikon with you . I know it can be quite a lot and when I decide to go full out, my backpack is close to 15 kilos, but oh, well. It is worth it when you take that amazing shot
The phone is quite impressive for a phone camera, but it is still not close to the real deal. The difference is sensor size does matter a lot.
Here are some of mine then too
Vasil Andreev Photography
Vasil Andreev Photography, София, България. 1,548 likes · 62 talking about this. Landscape, Wildlife and Macro Photography
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Ah... indeed you do have some great photos on FB.
Here is my older website with 40 years worth of photos
http://www.moskovita-photography.com/stock_photography.htm
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Ah... indeed you do have some great photos on FB.
Here is my older website with 40 years worth of photos
http://www.moskovita-photography.com/stock_photography.htm
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Awesome. I am still browsing and I love it. I am still new. Got the Nikon a year ago, had no clue what is going on, and still pushing through it. It is quite a lot of fun, having in mind I hated taking pictures before.
And I kind of like it, that this phone gives me the opportunity to dig into how it is working and what it does to get even more out of it.
I found that using my note9 for photos they came out exactly as what I see with my eyes. The 23 ultra threw a bunch of blue into the sky and made things much more vibrant than what it really looks like. When comparing the iPhone and s23 yes you can see pros and cons but no one really can see how enhanced the photos are. I can't find a way to make the pictures look less exaggerated. I don't think we should have to resort to using pro settings every time. Has anyone foud a way to correct the photos? Debating on returning back to the note
Master255 said:
I recommend just switching to S22. It has no such problems and everything works automatically. With him you do not need to be a professional to just take a photo.
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Sure. Makes sens. Ditch the batter battery, go for exinos, leave the better and flatter display, the otherwise perfect performance for me, the better ram and storage, etc. I can also get a Nokia with a flash life.
Having in mind I own a semi pro camera, this is a solid advice.
Cheers!
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The battery in the s22 is exactly the same, the s22 also has snapdragon, the screen in the s23 is greener displays less details and has fewer colors compared to the s22, the RAM is exactly the same, the drive too. As you can see the camera is so professional in the s23 that ordinary users can not use it. So you don't lose anything by switching to the s22!
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The things you are listing are not the same. I will get exinos cuz i am in the EU. The display is more energy efficient and i dont see the color stuff you are listing. It is a matter of set up.
The s23 ram is 5x, which means newer and faster. The storage is 4.0, which also means newer and faster, and more efficient
There is more in the s23U than the spec sheet tells in comparison to s22U.