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I'm returning my Atrix and I was wondering how I keep the apps I bought from the Market? Do I have to back them up with Titanium or will the market remember that I bought the apps and just let me reinstall them on a different phone as long as I sign in to the market as the same user?
Market will remember as long as you use the same credentials to set up your new phone.
Appbrain.com is the computer version of the Android Market. You can sync your device to the website and vise versa. You can backup and save the apps that you have downloaded and bought and then quickly download them again.
https://market.android.com/ is the computer version of the market, appbrain.com is a 3rd party site.
Excellent, thank you all. Atrix goes back tonight.
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I am curious, why are you sending the atrix back? What are you getting to replace it?
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I am curious, why are you sending the atrix back? What are you getting to replace it?
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Returning it because the bootloader is locked with no crack in sight, and at&t screwed us on hsupa. Motorola's new update removes root and devs are leaving the Atrix so that should throw red flags up. I don't want to be stuck with this locked Atrix for 2 years and only get updates when motorola gets around to it and then having to hope I can root after every little update. I'm not happy with them locking me out of it so I'm not supporting motorola. Botched recalled updates etc. I'm getting the inspire 4G to replace it and I will be able to Tinker with roms all I want! Hardware wise I love the Atrix. I'll miss tegra games and the high res screen but that's it. Moto and at&t crippled it. Sad. Such Huge potential.
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Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
I agree with everything you said, except for the Inspire. Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
You need a nexus one
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Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
I agree with everything you said, except for the Inspire. Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
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You know, as we veer rapidly off topic, I have to say that while I've been disheartened by the shackles put onto this "open" OS of Android by Motorola and while I too am waiting with baited breath for someone to hack open the bootloader, not a day goes by that I'm not happy I switched away from the iPhone to move to an Atrix. While I agree that while the "4G" is still nowhere to be seen and that the locked bootloader is a pain, this is still twice the device my iPhone 4 ever was, especially as the Android OS doesn't treat all its users like they're half brain-dead and completely lacking any technical knowledge. I'm happy to say I'll be keeping my Atrix.
I'm unsure if I'm keeping my Atrix. I'm still within the 30 days - I love the phone, but some of the things I tend to do are things I can not do without access to the bootloader.
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You know, as we veer rapidly off topic, I have to say that while I've been disheartened by the shackles put onto this "open" OS of Android by Motorola and while I too am waiting with baited breath for someone to hack open the bootloader, not a day goes by that I'm not happy I switched away from the iPhone to move to an Atrix. While I agree that while the "4G" is still nowhere to be seen and that the locked bootloader is a pain, this is still twice the device my iPhone 4 ever was, especially as the Android OS doesn't treat all its users like they're half brain-dead and completely lacking any technical knowledge. I'm happy to say I'll be keeping my Atrix.
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I concur!!!
People are saying that kholk is working on unlocking the bootloader. Last I heard of Da_G, he was working on it too.
Something you guys might find interesting is the white nexus s that has access to the AT&T 3G bands.
Anyways, on topic: Backup your apps using TiBu to your external sd-card. Then plop the new card into your phone, and restore.
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People are saying that kholk is working on unlocking the bootloader. Last I heard of Da_G, he was working on it too.
Something you guys might find interesting is the white nexus s that has access to the AT&T 3G bands.
Anyways, on topic: Backup your apps using TiBu to your external sd-card. Then plop the new card into your phone, and restore.
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what exactly can we do from unlocking the bootloader
read above a 5th grade level for one (some can do this without an unlocked bootloader)
Can the Verizon Galaxy S4 Developer Edition use the same roms and recoveries as the standard Verizon S4? (TL;DR version)
Found this duplicate thread (more or less)- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346979
Moderators can remove this thread. (I promised I had searched really hard first!!!)
I understand the bootloader workaround on the standard S4 (patched in the latest OTA update) used some sort of Loki exploit, which obviously wouldn't be necessary for this phone. Would a custom recovery for the Dev. edition need to be modified to remove that exploit? I can't seem to find any sub forums or really anything targeted specifically at the Dev. edition. I realize it hasn't been out for very long, so let me know if things just haven't picked up yet (or if I'm asking a dumb question and things will 'just work'). I've done a lot of searching and can't turn anything definitive up, except some scattered instructions on rooting. Maybe we could get a subforum specific for the Dev. edition?
On a random side note, I feel so odd realizing I've been registered since 2010 and have made 3 posts since then. Consider this my 'hoping to get more active in the community' post. I've spent so much time modding my OG droid, Bionic, and finally my Gnex, I guess I just got comfortable and didn't really need to ask any questions, lol. I've been thinking so hard about moving our family to T mobile. After the GSM Nexus got twice the screen on time as the VZW Nexus, I figured conditions would stay that way, but I can see the VZW S4 is getting just as good screen on time. It would cut our bill down from $408 to $180 (plus insurance if we want that, never really needed any claims), but Verizon just has such good and widespread coverage, plus we have 4 unlimited data lines. I've gotten addicted to crack flashing with my Nexus (the Bionic was like a padded jail cell...), and I'm hoping the Dev. edition can keep me happy! :fingers-crossed:
I could wait and hope that a new exploit comes out and buy the 32 GB standard version, since it appears that a 32 GB Dev. edition isn't going to happen. However, I remember the torture of using bootstrap on the bionic, especially if I got a bad flash, and I would hate to get into the cat-and-mouse game iPhone users play with Apple's updates. FolderMount seems acceptable to me.
Really wish this phone didn't flop as hard as it did. I assume root will never occur with the remaining variants and the lack of overall threads and activity tell me this entire community is dead before it even got off the ground.
I truly hope not. This is a great device and there are good people working on it. I have had little to no issues with my G5 I would really like to see root for it.
There was much drama earlier on with bounties for root. With lock bootloaders it seems near impossible especially with a lack of commitment from devs from the fore mentioned drama. I hope there can be a sort of peace flag raised if that is still an issue. In the meantime I haven't observed much from developers if they are indeed still working on roots. My expertise is no where in dev but more testing of nightlies. I hope I am wrong too.
These threads are always amusing.
Sometimes, often, things are happening behind closed doors. Devs know better than to put what they're doing out there because it creates an environment for "how much longer" and "whats the status". With that being said I can almost guarantee nobody is working on root for the locked variants. If you have one and want root, move on to a device that is rooted.
That's what I'm saying. So many devices don't have root that have been out for awhile now. What I was saying is the lack of activity for the G5 tells me this ship has already sailed.
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What I was saying is the lack of activity for the G5 tells me this flagship has already sailed.
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Wait a few weeks and then sell it on Swappa or something, get an HTC 10. My wife got a G5 for a buck, right before it all hit the fan with the root rumors. It's a fine phone but I feel bad that she got stuck without tethering since we don't have any other service at home. I held off for a day to see what would happen and it ended up going back to $149 so I said screw it. I'm glad I did, my G3 is still just dandy and I've got a 2-year upgrade still waiting for me if the 10 goes on sale. My wife might switch back to her S4 if she needs to tether when I'm not around.
I don't see this going anywhere contributive. Thread closed.
Came across my old files from when I used to build for this device. Doesn't seem that it's been over nearly 5 years since I've had a release on this device. Saddens me, as I still have my old Motorola Photon. It's the one phone I will never sell. It's still the first Android device I owned and it's the first time I ever tried my hand at any sort of computer programming. I have so many fond memories of this device and it's userbase. We truly had the best crew around...with @Jokersax11, Spleef, Lokifish Marz, and I all working to bring the latest and greatest to this device that Motorola so quickly dumped with no future support. We did our very best and brought some kick ass things that most people hadn't considered before (Project Sink being one of them). This was something I poured 30+ hours every week into and I LOVED IT.
Back in 2012/13 when we rocked this device, this was THE BEST userbase. Users knew how to READ, wanted to LEARN, and didn't expect us to spoon feed them. In many ways, it was the epitome of all that was wonderful with Android....and it saddens me to see what it has become. I sit on threads and consider a return for years now (I've dabbled on the M7, M8, Note 4, and G4, but never worked like I did back then), and see all the bickering...the squabbling....the lack of effort on the part of the users, and it makes me just say "forget it". It's become like reality television with people wanting everyone to just give them something without requiring a bit of effort on their part and with virtually NO understanding of the processes they're doing, as all they do is input some pre-printed instructions. And when something goes wrong? Well, it's demand a fix time as if the hobby that this is to most devs is actually their JOB.
I want to say a sincere THANK YOU to everyone who helped me along the way in my journey that was the Motorola Photon....to all the users who provided logs and tested ROMs for me and provided feedback, I say that you all are a part of my life....you all put faith in a guy who had little computer knowledge when he started but had a thirst to figure it out and for that I appreciate each and every one of you. To all the devs who worked with me on this wonderful little device and have largely walked away due to how Android (and XDA) have become over the years, I say that the Android world was better when you were in it. Users who didn't get the benefit of using your work truly have no idea what they are missing.
Yes, I just upgraded to the S8....I love my brand new shiny device, but it will never be irreplaceable like the MoPho. Who knows....maybe I'll try to find some source for an old version of CM and build a ROM for this sometime....never know. Till then, Thanks again everyone!
thank you
thanks for all you did. i wouldn't mind reviving the old MoPho. looking forward to whatever comes .
thanks again
Thank you
Ready and waiting, in case you come back and make something new... Love this little phone!
I would love to find a way to unlock the bootloader on the Electrify. The design of this phone is so incredible, and I hate that it is stuck on Gingerbread.
just popped back into the forums and saw this post. I totally agree with you! This group of people was AWESOME!!! I've really taken a more hands off approach since this device, not that i did any dev work like you guys. I miss the days of commenting and downloading the latest build and seeing what was broke and what wasn't. All the new phones are not even close to what this was back in the day.
That being said, my Essential Phone arrives Monday, see how that goes
sidenote, just activated my MoPho!!!
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I would love to find a way to unlock the bootloader on the Electrify. The design of this phone is so incredible, and I hate that it is stuck on Gingerbread.
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Depending on HOW your Electrify got 2.3.5, it might still be capable of being unlocked. If you took the OTA, it's done. However, if it came factory loaded with 2.3.5, you could still use the unlocking tools. I have an Electrify that is sitting on my desk as an overgrown clock that is rooted with CWM. (I left it in the car-mount stuck to a piece of glass)
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Depending on HOW your Electrify got 2.3.5, it might still be capable of being unlocked. If you took the OTA, it's done. However, if it came factory loaded with 2.3.5, you could still use the unlocking tools. I have an Electrify that is sitting on my desk as an overgrown clock that is rooted with CWM. (I left it in the car-mount stuck to a piece of glass)
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As far as I know, the device came with 2.3.5 from the factory. I am not 100% certain though. I tried everything I could find online to unlock the bootloader, but to no avail. Do you think you can point me to a guide on how you unlocked yours?
Ahh, I just logged into this forum today for some odd reason. I bounced down from the HTCU11 to the 10 to try out android 10 and in my moment of nostalgia pulled out the old photon. It sill streams winamp to my bluetooth and I need to resync it to my plex server, but that is indeed actually the first phone i rooted although it had the locked bootloader version due to my expedient install of motorola updates. I remember those days....
Thanks for all the fun times back then and the experimentation that had begun and continues today in many aspects the same but in many different.
I have owned lg g4 and im still actually, the funy thing is not a single update not even one scurity update since i bought it (september 2016) . LG promized Nougat though..
I gave LG another chance with LG G6 purshased last march i was surprised to find a flagship still runing on nougat while other start reciving android p beta..
I have recived a majore 20a and minore 20b update since then witch is good, but apparently it is still not smooth ( korea first and then region x and then region y and then model xy...etc witch takes ages to reach some countries. and some region/ model are completely ignored..?
The bottom line is LG produce brilliant phones but if software support is not provided at least to flagships for 2 years customers will runaway and LG will lose money as they did the recent years and this year (Lg mobile)
I have read this today about oneplus:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3-oneplus-3t-android-p-update/
Without forgeting nokia and others witch Lg must take exemple if it dosnt want to sink.
Rambling on an internet forum isn't gonna make a phone company listen to you. We've heard it countless times. Call customer service, tweet at them, or do something else about it if it matters that much to you.
Or just don't buy their products. Period.
***for LG updates are important to me and LG skipped them im still on nougat and there is no official new from LG customers care team regarding for next update
LOL.
They support is like a low price phone not a flagship
fegitoli said:
Rambling on an internet forum isn't gonna make a phone company listen to you. We've heard it countless times. Call customer service, tweet at them, or do something else about it if it matters that much to you.
Or just don't buy their products. Period.
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With all my respect, its not up to you to tell me what to do. I just thought this matter is worth disscution, so if you want to disscuss you more than welcom if not please dont try to analyse or judge.
And im not so mad as you imagine, im satisfied with both purchased at 250£ and 245£ i got what i payed for.
but for someone else who payed 700£ day one ? painful!!!
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With all my respect, its not up to you to tell me what to do. I just thought this matter is worth disscution, so if you want to disscuss you more than welcom if not please dont try to analyse or judge.
And im not so mad as you imagine, im satisfied with both purchased at 250£ and 245£ i got what i payed for.
but for someone else who payed 700£ day one painful!!!
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He answered like this because this matter has been discussed a lot already, many people, like me, have been disappointed, but i didn't only come here to complain, i also complained to them for months on twitter and via E-Mails, and i won't buy an LG devices ever again, moreover all the people around me will know my experience and i'll try to keep them fro buying LG phones.
These are all things that have (or may have) real effects on LG, complain here is useless i'm afraid, if you don't believe just check all the threads that have been created on the Oreo update, or the updates in general since last summer where all begun, and if you bought a G6 after last summer, well, you should have known how LG behaves on software updates and shouldn't have bought it.
Have a nice day, meanwhile i'll wait to throw this ****ty G6 away to buy a sparkly red OnePlus 6
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***for LG updates are important to me and LG skipped them im still on nougat and there is no official new from LG customers care team regarding for next update
LOL.
They support is like a low price phone not a flagship
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It doesn't matter if it's low-priced device or a flagship - both of these segments should be treated equally. Remember that Nokia 2 or Nokia 3 are not very powerful, they may be treated as low-priced ones but ALL HMD-Nokia devices are getting P. I tried to defend LG to the very last moments but right now I know that G6 is my last LG phone ever. I will be looking for a company which cares for their products instead of just releasing them, I will wait a little bit for Gorilla Glass 6, newer processor, some other inventions and then buy something.
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He answered like this because this matter has been discussed a lot already, many people, like me, have been disappointed
Have a nice day, meanwhile i'll wait to throw this ****ty G6 away to buy a sparkly red OnePlus 6
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Right on the money, sir.
To the OP, apologies for my blatantly sarcastic response, but with all due respect, this doesn't seem to be a matter worth discussing since it's been heard countless times before (and I mean countless, do a google search and you'll find tons of threads like these).
I didn't intend to criticize you or be rude to you in any way, so please accept my apology. You're right. I can't control what you do. Just be mindful that this isn't the first time we've seen someone complain about how lousy of a company LG is. We're all on the same boat here, and we all suffer equally from LG's mediocrity
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Right on the money, sir.
To the OP, apologies for my blatantly sarcastic response, but with all due respect, this doesn't seem to be a matter worth discussing since it's been heard countless times before (and I mean countless, do a google search and you'll find tons of threads like these).
I didn't intend to criticize you or be rude to you in any way, so please accept my apology. You're right. I can't control what you do. Just be mindful that this isn't the first time we've seen someone complain about how lousy of a company LG is. We're all on the same boat here, and we all suffer equally from LG's mediocrity
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It's alright lad, no problem at all.
To be fair am not a regular in xda or else forum thats why i didn't konw this been discussed countless times..
The funny thing is i own a surface pro with windows 10 updates every 2/3 days and no way to stop it, sometimes update in the background and restart without my permission ?
All the best
fegitoli said:
Right on the money, sir.
To the OP, apologies for my blatantly sarcastic response, but with all due respect, this doesn't seem to be a matter worth discussing since it's been heard countless times before (and I mean countless, do a google search and you'll find tons of threads like these).
I didn't intend to criticize you or be rude to you in any way, so please accept my apology. You're right. I can't control what you do. Just be mindful that this isn't the first time we've seen someone complain about how lousy of a company LG is. We're all on the same boat here, and we all suffer equally from LG's mediocrity
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It's alright lad, no problem at all.
To be fair am not a regular in xda or else forum thats why i didn't konw this been discussed countless times..
The funny thing is i own a surface pro with windows 10 updates every 2/3 days and no way to stop it, sometimes update in the background and restart without my permission ?
All the best