Hello guys,
I want to buy a new phone and i hesitate between the OnePlus X and the galaxy A5 2016.
Is the X powerful and what's the avg Antutu score? Is the snapdragon 801 good to play games like Modern Combat 5 or Fifa 16?
Thanking you in advance
Antutu score does not matter much. Software is buggy on oneplus x. You should go for other choices but not samsung .
In principle, If playing such games is your prime necessity then you should go for a 5.5 inch display phone with a better processor and bigger battery. Just my opinion.
this is not a gaming device. really go for something else. h2os is bugfree.antutu score is 71k with OC on h2os
To answer your question regarding Antutu score - my score on stock rom with stock kernel was 50k. And the gpu performance rated by the Antutu app was "poor", if I remember correctly.
saurabh40629 said:
Antutu score does not matter much. Software is buggy on oneplus x. You should go for other choices but not samsung .
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fotjon said:
In principle, If playing such games is your prime necessity then you should go for a 5.5 inch display phone with a better processor and bigger battery. Just my opinion.
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this is not a gaming device. really go for something else. h2os is bugfree.antutu score is 71k with OC on h2os
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To answer your question regarding Antutu score - my score on stock rom with stock kernel was 50k. And the gpu performance rated by the Antutu app was "poor", if I remember correctly.
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Thanks guys but i think gaming would be better than my Galaxy Grand Prime with snapdragon 410 an 1Gb of ram (22k on Antutu) an 5.5 inches is too big for my pocket. And psychem, how do you get 71k with a S801 ?
I saw on YouTube that Multitasking was wonderful with 3GB RAM. And will it be updated to Marshmallow or N (long term)?
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Thanks guys but i think gaming would be better than my Galaxy Grand Prime with snapdragon 410 an 1Gb of ram (22k on Antutu) an 5.5 inches is too big for my pocket. And psychem, how do you get 71k with a S801 ?
I saw on YouTube that Multitasking was wonderful with 3GB RAM. And will it be updated to Marshmallow or N (long term)?
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Check the h2os thread for the scores. Yes this phone has better multi taking than even s6 in my experience. There are already many custom roms based on Mm
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Check the h2os thread for the scores. Yes this phone has better multi taking than even s6 in my experience. There are already many custom roms based on Mm
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And for Android N ?
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And for Android N ?
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Wow did a antutu test on both of my phones and was expecting my L 9 to beat my escape. Boy was I suprised! My l 9 got a 10,568 ( pretty good compared to some). Then I ran the escape. My jaw dropped when I saw the amazing score of 15139. WHOA, it beat it in every catagory except RAM operation. My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
I get around 11k running mateo's CM 10.2 ROM.
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I have 9,616 running CyanogenMod 10.2 official (19/11/2013) :crying:
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I have 9,616 running CyanogenMod 10.2 official (19/11/2013) :crying:
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That's because custom rom overclock both CPU & GPU so it has higher score.
My L9 on CM 10.2 by mateo with stock cpu and gpu speeds i have 9843 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz i have 10671
With stock CPU and GPU at 384 MHz i have 9732 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 10706
With CPU at 1,35 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 11502
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My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Thats what I was getting at. Despite having a better cpu and gpu on the escape using both phones side by side in real world use the L9 performs better ALL around. The gpu was a big part of the escapes high score. However in side by side comparisons the L9S graphics seems to look better and out perform the escape. So I honestly believe all benchmark scores reflects what the phones software/hardware is CAPABLE of performing not really HOW it performs with daily use. This would explain why a score can as much as double by simply running a custom rom. I would never solely base my opinion of a phones performance on a benchmark score. Sure it can give you a idea of what its software/hardware is capable of. However you cant honestly get a true feel for the performance until you try the phone. So my escape murders my L9 in benchmark scores. BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yep, and both phones use the exact same battery. The escapes standby battery life is much longer than the L9 . During normal use the escape lasts longer as well by not to the degree of the standby difference.
Notice how the nexus 5 lags whilst the galaxy s3 and nexus 10 are smooth?
Nexus 5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRMnXO8cMgY
Galaxy s3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjVD0zHygm4
Nexus 10- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTcbt4sHps
Could this be because the snapdragon is crap or because of optimization?
Well frankly speaking mali 400 is kinda old now, but i guess it still is a decent performer for most of today's games, though some lags r there on some games
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Mali is known for it's good (close to console's) graphics and good power too,though it might be still optimization.
Well,at least,nexus 5 still should run it better.
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Well frankly speaking mali 400 is kinda old now, but i guess it still is a decent performer for most of today's games, though some lags r there on some games
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Games,which lag on Mali are just unoptimized (a little). I think,if developers of those games will optimize their games better,Mali will probably won't lag even in today's games.
Wow
The fact that the nexus 10 can run that game at that crazy resolution is pretty impressive
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Mali is known for it's good (close to console's) graphics and good power too,though it might be still optimization.
Well,at least,nexus 5 still should run it better.
Games,which lag on Mali are just unoptimized (a little). I think,if developers of those games will optimize their games better,Mali will probably won't lag even in today's games.
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Well we'll hope for the best, these new drivers does work though. Graphics performance is kinda better now
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
yeah it snapdragon 2.3ghz to keep up with the 1.9ghz of exynos
Hey there,bull,calm down. S3 doesn't suck. I use it every day heavily and multitasking,RAM management are amazing. Yeah,I agree,S3 lags in all of new games,but there's a reason. Know it? Because it's old already. Soon 2 years will pass since S3 was released and of course new games will lag on such an old device.
So again,calm down there.
Someone needs to chill
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
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Don't be an idiot. The Exynos on the S3 is far superior to the Qualcomm version. The Exynos version had a quad-core CPU vs. dual-core for the Qualcomm version. That's what the OP is talking about and you just sound like an immature little teenager.
On the S4, it's a different story because Samsung's big.LITTLE was poorly implemented on the Exynos. However, on the new Galaxy Note 3, Exynos is just as good, if not better than the Qualcomm 800. And when Samsung updates the chipset with octa-core capability, it has the potential to surpass the competition significantly.
As for your idiotic argument of popularity, Samsung decides which regions will receive Exynos chips based on LTE availability and Qualcomm's licensing restrictions. It's not based on popularity, it's based on patents and licensing costs.
I don't have any lag on my S3 and I happen to like comparisons of different chipsets, even from YouTube. You aren't qualified to speak on everyone's behalf and I appreciate this thread which asks a perfectly fine question.
I think mali and snapdragon are sort of budget type processors whereas qualcomm and exynos(some models) are the higher end of things
Mali=Exynos
Snapdragon=Qualcomm
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Mali=Exynos
Snapdragon=Qualcomm
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What?
Mali is a GPU whereas Exynos is the CPU. The Exynos version of the S4 didn't have a Mali GPU, it had a PowerVR one.
And to whoever said the S3 had perfect RAM management and multitasking: that couldn't be further from the truth.
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What?
Mali is a GPU whereas Exynos is the CPU.
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See post above mine. I was trying to clear up the assumption that Exynos, Qualcomm, Snapdragon and Mali were all different chipsets.
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See post above mine. I was trying to clear up the assumption that Exynos, Qualcomm, Snapdragon and Mali were all different chipsets.
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Yes but you made the wrongful assumption that mali is something that just goes with exynos. Exynos is made by Samsung while Mali is made by ARM and not even by Samsung at all
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
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i own nexus 4 htc one and exynos s3. u re just kidding urself. try gta vice city , san andreas on a adreno phone atleast try on one and nexus 4 im %100 sure they will lag i use one as daily driver. all you will see is lag. i didnt see any game laging on exynos s3 yet. asphalt 8 full graphics s3 30+fps one 20+ fps. because adreno just fails with thermal throtting. and dont realy have great drivers to work with. like on htc one you are playing most wanted working on 30+ fps 15 mins gaming and you will see laging low fps drops to 10 to 20 i tested like every game with fps meter on all 3 phones.
all you are talking about lag is simple fail touchwiz launcher its not about processer or gpu. yes one is runing smoother (2013 phone it should) because sense launcher doesnt get kicked from ram like touchwiz. it doesnt make processor good or bad it just makes launcher is bad. just remove bloatware on a s3 and use nova launcher and make it stay on ram. and you will see lag is gone .
i use this 3 phones like everyday but one most and its not smoother cuz of its processor its about sense. and its worse than exynos s3 on gaming because adreno 320 and 1080p not the best combination.
my girlfriend has nexus 5 and san andreas just lags. mali (Arm) still works better with games adreno just fails on real life performance. im using nexus 4 for 1 year and htc one for 7 months now.
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i own nexus 4 htc one and exynos s3. u re just kidding urself. try gta vice city , san andreas on a adreno phone atleast try on one and nexus 4 im %100 sure they will lag i use one as daily driver. all you will see is lag. i didnt see any game laging on exynos s3 yet. asphalt 8 full graphics s3 30+fps one 20+ fps. because adreno just fails with thermal throtting. and dont realy have great drivers to work with. like on htc one you are playing most wanted working on 30+ fps 15 mins gaming and you will see laging low fps drops to 10 to 20 i tested like every game with fps meter on all 3 phones.
all you are talking about lag is simple fail touchwiz launcher its not about processer or gpu. yes one is runing smoother (2013 phone it should) because sense launcher doesnt get kicked from ram like touchwiz. it doesnt make processor good or bad it just makes launcher is bad. just remove bloatware on a s3 and use nova launcher and make it stay on ram. and you will see lag is gone .
i use this 3 phones like everyday but one most and its not smoother cuz of its processor its about sense. and its worse than exynos s3 on gaming because adreno 320 and 1080p not the best combination.
my girlfriend has nexus 5 and san andreas just lags. mali (Arm) still works better with games adreno just fails on real life performance. im using nexus 4 for 1 year and htc one for 7 months now.
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I dont know wether your results are true or not.But your post make me feel like a proud owner of s3.
Theshawty said:
What?
And to whoever said the S3 had perfect RAM management and multitasking: that couldn't be further from the truth.
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Why so? I have this phone,and I use it everyday,so I know what I'm talking about.
Iqbal Ansari said:
I dont know wether your results are true or not.But your post make me feel like a proud owner of s3.
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He's talking absolute truth,which people don't want to believe to.
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Why so? I have this phone,and I use it everyday,so I know what I'm talking about.
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*sigh*
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*sigh*
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What's up? Maybe I misunderstood something? English isn't my native language,my apologies.
Im Only Bothered About The Speed
Which is Faster S5 OR Alpha ??
I want to get the alpha but theres hardly no custom roms for it
should i get s5 ?
The 850f has a score of more than 50.000 in the antutu benchmark, beating the S5 and the note 4 if that's important for you.
I bought the alpha because it looks a lot better than the cheap plastic looking S5.
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The 850f has a score of more than 50.000 in the antutu benchmark, beating the S5 and the note 4 if that's important for you.
I bought the alpha because it looks a lot better than the cheap plastic looking S5.
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Alpha Exynos 5 Octa 5430 version
S5 got s801 and Exynos 5422 while Alpha got s801 and Exynos 5430 variables. Both got 2GB ram. Performance-wise is Alpha much faster because it only used 720P screen, especially with the Exynos 5430 one. Though Note4 comes with Eynos 5433 but the 2K screen hogging the CPU/GPU power, in real life performance Note3 is even faster than Note4.
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Im Only Bothered About The Speed
Which is Faster S5 OR Alpha ??
I want to get the alpha but theres hardly no custom roms for it
should i get s5 ?
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Even thou the S5 gives lower score on antutu it doesnt mean its slower than alpha. The exynos version of alpha has octa core cpu which makes it alot more efficient in multi core processing but its only clocked 1.3/1.8 Mhz, while the S5 quad core is clocked at 2.5 Mhz and that gives a little advantage in single core processing.
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Even thou the S5 gives lower score on antutu it doesnt mean its slower than alpha. The exynos version of alpha has octa core cpu which makes it alot more efficient in multi core processing but its only clocked 1.3/1.8 Mhz, while the S5 quad core is clocked at 2.5 Mhz and that gives a little advantage in single core processing.
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Not only the clock speed is important, but also architecture, implementation and manufacturing method and process size (The thing is usually written in nanometers ). All these factors are better on Exynos 5430 than on SD801, so single core performance Exynos alpha should be comparable to SD801 Galaxy S5. :good:
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Not only the clock speed is important, but also architecture, implementation and manufacturing method and process size (The thing is usually written in nanometers ). All these factors are better on Exynos 5430 than on SD801, so single core performance Exynos alpha should be comparable to SD801 Galaxy S5. :good:
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hey guys I owned multiple phones in my life and to be honest the best one I had is the HTC One XL
single cored device of 1.5GHZ i over clocked it to 1.8GHZ and i still have it, it is a lot faster than all new phones, faster than sony phones heck its even faster than my Xperia Z5 Compact 8 cored!!
4 cores of 2ghz and another 4 of 1.5 and can not even compete to the speed of the One XL when it comes to launching apps speed and smooth UI experience!
so I am asking you if its any related to the roms we have and the drivers of sony could be causing the problems? I tried AOKP AOSP AICP Lineage roms they are fast enough but still why isnt it as fast as the 4-5 years old HTC SINGLED CORED!
if its roms related or UI can any one suggest really small roms or UI that can give my device a more powerful experience?
thanks for any one that can help
Funny. Any proof, maybe benchmarks screenshots or comparsion video? My Antutu score is 86 660 on stock 7.0 firmware for example.
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Funny. Any proof, maybe benchmarks screenshots or comparsion video? My Antutu score is 86 660 on stock 7.0 firmware for example.
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thats exactly the funny thing! I have a really high score on multitasking - GPU, basically every thing else besides "Single core" score
and its really funny how the phone specs it says : it comes with 4 large cores of 2.0GHZ when in actuallity they run at 1.5ghz and when you actually run it on 2.0 youre actually "over-clocking" when in actuallity its just what they are supposed to do! how is that?
plus I got 59000 on AOKP how is that possible??
Can you guys say what is the maximum benchmark score for mido 4/64gb variant in latest software update I Mean miui 9 I got a score of 59k is it good?
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Can you guys say what is the maximum benchmark score for mido 4/64gb variant in latest software update I Mean miui 9 I got a score of 59k is it good?
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Hm? Are you still that concern with benchmarks these days?
anyways, i got 64K+ on ViperOs, a good score but in Quadrant i got uninspiring results. (SD, 3GB version)
59K is good enough as long its perform well as day to day driver without any hiccup.
GabrielScott said:
Hm? Are you still that concern with benchmarks these days?
anyways, i got 64K+ on ViperOs, a good score but in Quadrant i got uninspiring results. (SD, 3GB version)
59K is good enough as long its perform well as day to day driver without any hiccup.
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Using official stock ROM. Not a fan of custom ROM not anymore ultimately we will come back to stock ROM so why. Not modified stock ROM like Xiaomi.eu
65k on AEX without any modifications, 4/64gb variant.
64-65k on redmi note 4x (sd) 3/32, rom RR
Mine is 0 coz I dun care... Lol
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Mine is 0 coz I dun care... Lol
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Well, if I was going to use benchmarking apps, I would rather use Geekbench4 or PC Mark2.0.
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Well, if I was going to use benchmarking apps, I would rather use Geekbench4 or PC Mark2.0.
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Whatever bench, I don't trust bench anymore...
The mtk for example score very high bench but real performance is so bad.
Those huawei kirin score very low bench score, but it plays games, especially psp and dolphin emulation way-way better than snapdragon and mtk that have better bench score.
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Whatever bench, I don't trust bench anymore...
The mtk for example score very high bench but real performance is so bad.
Those huawei kirin score very low bench score, but it plays games, especially psp and dolphin emulation way-way better than snapdragon and mtk that have better bench score.
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MTk is scoring high because it's faster but for short amounts of time because they overheat, after 10-15minutes of heavy usage like gaming it's reducing CPU/GPU frequency to reduce heat (thermal throttling), and then the performance is much worse.
Thats why benchmarks are useless, they are too short to show the real performance. For example Snapdragon 625 can keep the same performance for hours during heavy gaming without thermal throttling, because it's super power & thermal efficient.
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Whatever bench, I don't trust bench anymore...
The mtk for example score very high bench but real performance is so bad.
Those huawei kirin score very low bench score, but it plays games, especially psp and dolphin emulation way-way better than snapdragon and mtk that have better bench score.
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The secret is to look at single-core performance. Multi-core benchmarks are always very high on MTK because their chips usually have more cores than others. However, how many apps actually use all those cores? All that the extra cores do is to suck your battery.
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MTk is scoring high because it's faster but for short amounts of time because they overheat, after 10-15minutes of heavy usage like gaming it's reducing CPU/GPU frequency to reduce heat (thermal throttling), and then the performance is much worse.
Thats why benchmarks are useless, they are too short to show the real performance. For example Snapdragon 625 can keep the same performance for hours during heavy gaming without thermal throttling, because it's super power & thermal efficient.
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Yeah I agree,
Beside that, benchmark just measure raw power, big raw power is useless without good optimization.
Snapdragon n Kirin have lower raw power but easily beat mtk because they're way more optimized.
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The secret is to look at single-core performance. Multi-core benchmarks are always very high on MTK because their chips usually have more cores than others. However, how many apps actually use all those cores? All that the extra cores do is to suck your battery.
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Nowdays, mtk score very high at single core as well... But it still sucks...