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I've seen a LOT of questions that are already answered in the amaze bible, linked in my signature.. feel free to ask any general questions here after you've gone thru the bible- but chances are, the answers are in there! If anyone finds a question that isn't answered, I will gladly add it to the bible, or I can add you as an editor if you wanted to help keep it organized!
But PLEASE search it, I'm quite sure it will answer 99% of any question you have!
Lol it's not gonna change, you know that. It's been in all of our sigs from day one yet hardly ever used.
As long as people continue to provide answers for everyday questions, the new folk, the lazy folk, and the entitled have no need to use it. I understand wanting to help but there has to be a line. The absolute worse thing XDA has done since I've been a member was implement that Thanks button.
I helped this guy but did it in a way he'll have to learn...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916456
dkb218 said:
As long as people continue to provide answers for everyday questions, the new folk, the lazy folk, and the entitled have no need to use it. I understand wanting to help but there has to be a line. The absolute worse thing XDA has done since I've been a member was implement that Thanks button. A competition to help...
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This community (Amaze 4G) isn't based on the thanks button, trust me, if it was I'd still be around a lot more than I currently am. But due to the factor than people are lazy and in some cases really slow, the unnecessary post will continue, even though that line has been drawn and tried to be implemented, but questions here are better than them flooding the dev section.
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This community (Amaze 4G) isn't based on the thanks button, trust me, if it was I'd still be around a lot more than I currently am. But due to the factor than people are lazy and in some cases really slow, the unnecessary post will continue, even though that line has been drawn and tried to be implemented, but questions here are better than them flooding the dev section.
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Prior to that thanks button if a new person asked a questions that was asked a thousand times, nine times out of ten the response would be "search". This is XDA wide. When I joined XDA, Android didn't exist. Windows Mobile. Back then you were darn near cursed out for asking a question. The attitude was "this is a developers site. Not a question and answer forum. The answers are on the board. Find them!"
There is no question asked that isn't answered on this board.
dkb218 said:
Prior to that thanks button if a new person asked a questions that was asked a thousand times, nine times out of ten the response would be "search". This is XDA wide. When I joined XDA, Android didn't exist. Windows Mobile. Back then you were darn near cursed out for asking a question. The attitude was "this is a developers site. Not a question and answer forum. The answers are on the board. Find them!"
There is no question asked that isn't answered on this board.
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Haha, back then I'm sure very few knew the answers, but at least things were SEARCHABLE! Now if I ever want to search something, I find mostly questions that have "search" as an answer!!
It may be pointless to try to get people to use it, but we already put in all of the work.. and damn it, when I need an answer, I'd much rather find less questions than answers! When searching that is!
Anyways, I posted it because I think perhaps having our thread in the development section isn't as helpful as it would be here.. perhaps we can have it moved.
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Lol it's not gonna change, you know that. It's been in all of our sigs from day one yet hardly ever used.
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It WAS being used for a good while! At one point, there was ALWAYS more than 20+ people in it at a time.. but I'm sure those who wanted answers used it less, and it isn't like there's a whole lot to update until something new happens, lol.
Yah so after using the JellyBlast v3.04 for a month, i thought it was perfect until i got into a problem last night. Ace(i) kept freezing. I had to restart several times:crying:, so when i restarted it the 4th time, it boots only in recovery mode now.
I have flashed Stock Firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611225)
Which i succeded in but the phone hasnt still been able to boot.
Please look to it.
P.S. In recovery mode, i tried clicking on the option reboot system now but then it just freezes on the last part, i.e.
---Appling Multi-CSC-----
Multi_CSC : there are common apks
multicsc : src/system/csc/INS/system/ .
amogh420 said:
Yah so after using the JellyBlast v3.04 for a month, i thought it was perfect until i got into a problem last night. Ace(i) kept freezing. I had to restart several times:crying:, so when i restarted it the 4th time, it boots only in recovery mode now.
I have flashed Stock Firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611225)
Which i succeded in but the phone hasnt still been able to boot.
Please look to it.
P.S. In recovery mode, i tried clicking on the option reboot system now but then it just freezes on the last part, i.e.
---Appling Multi-CSC-----
Multi_CSC : there are common apks
multicsc : src/system/csc/INS/system/ .
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Are you a noob?
If yes
Then be a newbies first and then register at XDA Forum
Now, I assume you are back and now you are not a noob and understand the XDA rules that SEARCH BEFORE POSTING
And you won't even had to search
You could JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE
There is a thread called
POST YOUR QUESTIONS HERE
No one should help you unless you post your questions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
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No one should help you unless you post your questions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
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You are fast
You just posted it directly before I wanted to post it
I Can't Help You . . . I'm a Horse
Thanks to all the supporting members of XDA
You really care about XDA
Those who are criticising you are surely noobs
High 5 to you and pacepalm to noobs.
First, due to respect, I called them newbies as I thought I was also like them first.
But I was wrong
If they are only newbies at first
Then I was a pro from birth
I doubt I have posted any question.
I only remember posting a question which was related to the problem coming during recompiling Systemui.apk and that too I solved on my own.
I feel very bad for them.
A way to tell you it without using words...
Sorry [ Youtube ] [ /Youtube ] doesn't work for a reason :/
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A way to tell you it without using words...
Sorry [ Youtube ] [ /Youtube ] doesn't work for a reason :/
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Dude . . . This so f**kin' true
Yah, i get it, and FYI i am not a noob.
I had glazed my eyes upon the thread of questions.
But i thought my topic would gather much attention. Seems that it took a wrong way.
Sorry:crying::crying:
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Yah, i get it, and FYI i am not a noob.
I had glazed my eyes upon the thread of questions.
But i thought my topic would gather much attention. Seems that it took a wrong way.
Sorry:crying::crying:
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Good that you realized
Next time
Follow the rules and redirect all questions you see to the right thread.
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Thanks to all the supporting members of XDA
You really care about XDA
Those who are criticising you are surely noobs
High 5 to you and pacepalm to noobs.
First, due to respect, I called them newbies as I thought I was also like them first.
But I was wrong
If they are only newbies at first
Then I was a pro from birth
I doubt I have posted any question.
I only remember posting a question which was related to the problem coming during recompiling Systemui.apk and that too I solved on my own.
I feel very bad for them.
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I'm sorry but I believe this is all a load of crap, yes I support your idea of keeping the forum clean and that users should search before posting, however if they do search and cannot find any answers they have a right to post here in the general forum
I believe posting everything in one thread is dumb and inefficient let's say everyone does post in your thread there will be about a thousand questions and nobody will be able to cope and so it will flood with questions and very little answers, Threads are a lot easier to answer and to help people when they're spread out and left how they are as users can easily see what the problem is and answer the individuals question easily, compared to searching through your thread which makes you read question after question to the supposed answer to your question you may of asked the day before only to find it isn't a solution to your problem but yet another question posted by a fellow user...
again may i say i support the idea of asking people to search and it is your right to not answer them but simply refusing until they post in your thread is dumb, There's nothing wrong with the current system and the forum can be improved if we simply ask politely that thwy search more often and even direct them to the older threads with links, that's what this community is for, helping fellow developers
The usual "Xx James xX" only on mobile...
(Sent Via Xda Developers App)
Xx James xX said:
I'm sorry but I believe this is all a load of crap, yes I support your idea of keeping the forum clean and that users should search before posting, however if they do search and cannot find any answers they have a right to post here in the general forum
I believe posting everything in one thread is dumb and inefficient let's say everyone does post in your thread there will be about a thousand questions and nobody will be able to cope and so it will flood with questions and very little answers, Threads are a lot easier to answer and to help people when they're spread out and left how they are as users can easily see what the problem is and answer the individuals question easily, compared to searching through your thread which makes you read question after question to the supposed answer to your question you may of asked the day before only to find it isn't a solution to your problem but yet another question posted by a fellow user...
again may i say i support the idea of asking people to search and it is your right to not answer them but simply refusing until they post in your thread is dumb, There's nothing wrong with the current system and the forum can be improved if we simply ask politely that thwy search more often and even direct them to the older threads with links, that's what this community is for, helping fellow developers
The usual "Xx James xX" only on mobile...
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You are new here and don't understand WE DON'T HAVE A Q&A SECTION
And if you don't know how it feels to see same noob questions filling the General section and then the Guides pushing back and then again noobs asking for it
First, you are the only person right now saying IT IS WRONG TO KEEP GENERAL SECTION CLEAN?
I have said that if nobody
Then I will help every one who questions in my thread
Also it won't matter if questions are repeated there.
You understand?
Here it is against the rules to post a guide or update in development section.
And these things are more important than the noob questions.
You are talking about right of noobs.
You should know rules come before the rights.
If they don't search before posting, they don't deserve this right.
And the next thing, even if they do, if they can't find answers, I WILL ANSWER THEM IF NOBODY DOES.
That's my promise.
I don't know why you support them.
I never saw such noob posting such a question
"Error in smali decompiling"
".xml scatter "
The answer they seek are not necessarily be answered by S5830i General Section
They can be found anywhere on internet.
The questions they post about ROMs and kernel are answered numerous times
They don't have 10 posts and try to be good at it.
Brick the device by their foolishness(It is not easy to Brick a device, and even if you do there are several guides to restore it), and then flood the General section.
I didn't ever want to say that about them but it is true.
So, I never used cuss words about them but you know.
It is kind of spamming they do.
If genuine questions are also posted there.
Then what is the problem.
It is clean.
Believe me it's healthier for noobs
If nobody helps them in General section
Then they will Atleast read which they don't do and that is the problem.
Long Live XDA
Long live General Section(which it won't do if tsunami continues)
Regards
I say again I am not against cleaning up the forum -.-
I just believe your idea is ineffecient
I propose instead that we create a partition and pass it onto a senior mod asking for a new forum section.
The usual "Xx James xX" only on mobile...
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Xx James xX said:
I say again I am not against cleaning up the forum -.-
I just believe your idea is ineffecient
I propose instead that we create a partition and pass it onto a senior mod asking for a new forum section.
The usual "Xx James xX" only on mobile...
(Sent Via Xda Developers App)
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I already tried that
But I think its not possible
My device didn't respect the settings in the hosts file and the resolv.conf file. Any suggestions or help is very welcome
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My device didn't respect the settings in the hosts file and the resolv.conf file. Any suggestions or help is very welcome
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I can't respect your English
Please post your questions in HELP THREAD
You will be assisted better than this.
And speak a English.
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I can't respect your English
Please post your questions in HELP THREAD
You will be assisted better than this.
And speak a English.
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Suggestion about the help thread
It's getting kinda spammed and quite a few questions are going unanswered, instead of one help thread why don't we make 3 each with its own category organising things more and slowing the spam,
1. Questions thread
2. General chat and stuffz
3. (Think of another one)
>>> three threads would make things a lot smoother and allow people to answer and get answers to something quicker as people would be looking in right thread instead of a mega spammed one with random stuff
The usual Xx James xX only on mobile (Xda Premium)
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Xx James xX said:
Suggestion about the help thread
It's getting kinda spammed and quite a few questions are going unanswered, instead of one help thread why don't we make 3 each with its own category organising things more and slowing the spam,
1. Questions thread
2. General chat and stuffz
3. (Think of another one)
>>> three threads would make things a lot smoother and allow people to answer and get answers to something quicker as people would be looking in right thread instead of a mega spammed one with random stuff
The usual Xx James xX only on mobile (Xda Premium)
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Sent from my GT-S5830i using xda premium
Well I too agree to what you said
But, people find it too difficult to post in one thread and they can't even find a relevant thread
Three threads(if even sticky) will not find there questions
I made all topics in one thread because it would be quite easier for noobs to post in just one thread instead of using their brain (which they don't want)
About unanswered questions,
I doubt that they are answerable
Of course some of the questions are not so
I search for every questions to answer them
But some people who answer on separate threads are not answering here
However any method that helps clearing General section are really welcomed
However discuss the idea with FM before implementation..
Good Luck.
iamareebjamal said:
I can't respect your English
Please post your questions in HELP THREAD
You will be assisted better than this.
And speak a English.
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Please... respect my English? I have studied the language for over 13 years and got to learn things that I'm pretty sure you don't know. sometimes I pity you folks from the English speaking world... you know nothing about your own language! think about that next time you morph into a grammar troll. seriously, a simple typo gets you that worked up? #respect
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I can't respect your English
Please post your questions in HELP THREAD
You will be assisted better than this.
And speak a English.
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oooh snap! you're not from ANY English speaking nation; my mistake (or maybe not but who cares?!)... Jamal.
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Please... respect my English? I have studied the language for over 13 years and got to learn things that I'm pretty sure you don't know. sometimes I pity you folks from the English speaking world... you know nothing about your own language! think about that next time you morph into a grammar troll. seriously, a simple typo gets you that worked up? #respect
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My God
Spare me
I used respect word because you said
" My device didn't RESPECT the settings in
the hosts file and the resolv.conf file."
But
I don't want to start fight here
So I am backing off
Oops, I couldn't understand what you said so I said that
If you have learned English for 13 years
Then I have done that for 15 years
I just want to say
You aren't going in detail and want help
If it was typo, or even if not, it was to be posted in HELP THREAD
And be brief
And explain the whole thing.
This site helps, but you also have to do some work for yourself too by even posting in right section
And then you with your witness try to answer with irrelevant quotes
Again if you are offended, SORRY
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iamareebjamal said:
Well I too agree to what you said
But, people find it too difficult to post in one thread and they can't even find a relevant thread
Three threads(if even sticky) will not find there questions
I made all topics in one thread because it would be quite easier for noobs to post in just one thread instead of using their brain (which they don't want)
About unanswered questions,
I doubt that they are answerable
Of course some of the questions are not so
I search for every questions to answer them
But some people who answer on separate threads are not answering here
However any method that helps clearing General section are really welcomed
However discuss the idea with FM before implementation..
Good Luck.
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I was thinking you would implement it, as you already have the first one done all you would have to do is rename it and make another 2, also I believe the what the problem is that on mobile the sticky threads are in another section and I usually forget about them completely....
And while on computer I think it's just getting a bit too spammed for anyone to bother
The usual Xx James xX only on mobile (Xda Premium)
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Areeb is totally right if people aren't finding one thread who's name is self explanatory there Is no point in creating multiple ones
And I have got even more than one answer everytime I posted in the help thread even it was a noob one stilllll
So I think so all q's are answered properly
Sent from my GT-S5830i using xda premium
iamareebjamal said:
My God
Spare me
I used respect word because you said
" My device didn't RESPECT the settings in
the hosts file and the resolv.conf file."
But
I don't want to start fight here
So I am backing off
Oops, I couldn't understand what you said so I said that
If you have learned English for 13 years
Then I have done that for 15 years
I just want to say
You aren't going in detail and want help
If it was typo, or even if not, it was to be posted in HELP THREAD
And be brief
And explain the whole thing.
This site helps, but you also have to do some work for yourself too by even posting in right section
And then you with your witness try to answer with irrelevant quotes
Again if you are offended, SORRY
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Being willing to help is one thing (even if it is telling me to use another thread or whatever) but snide remarks ruin the whole idea of the forum. the only reason I even posted is because the multiple threads you and many others seem to think exist don't provide the solution; just many suggestions. anyway, of all the rules in forums, the best should be that if you don't have anything helpful to add, hold your peace. and one more thing... over 13 years (over= more than)
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OK. I've never received so many private messages in all my xda life. Apologies for the confusion and strife that resulted. just so everyone knows, I managed to solve my issue and, not for the first time, it turned out that a lot of the tutorials I followed online didn't work for me. Thankfully, my variations did. Otherwise, keep the peace
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Areeb is totally right if people aren't finding one thread who's name is self explanatory there Is no point in creating multiple ones
And I have got even more than one answer everytime I posted in the help thread even it was a noob one stilllll
So I think so all q's are answered properly
Sent from my GT-S5830i using xda premium
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Yeah the majority are but a few slip through... better ordering would be nice though
The usual Xx James xX only on mobile (Xda Premium)
I am fed up (and I suspect most are) with new users posting the exact the same issues over and over again, making no attempt whatsoever to search a bit and see if the question has been answered before. What would be an appropriate response to such posts?
@surfatwork, my recommendation is to totally ignore them.
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I am fed up (and I suspect most are) with new users posting the exact the same issues over and over again, making no attempt whatsoever to search a bit and see if the question has been answered before. What would be an appropriate response to such posts?
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I believe the experts should link them to the appropriate thread/post if the query has been answered before. No point despising them. Always remember that everybody was once a noob.
"Despise" would be a rather strong adjective. "Annoyance" - yes. There are noobs and there are noobs. I have absolutely nothing against people asking questions and answering them - that is obviously a fundamental purpose a forum serves. But it is also important to understad that a forum is a repository of information and people seeking assistance have a duty to search, find out issues that have already been discussed and solved, before firing off a post. A forum is not a customer service helpline. I dont know about you, but I do find it annoying when someone posts about a "bricked" phone, and the top 3 threads on the forum have been discussing exactly the same thing.
If noobs had to be pointed to the relevant discussion threads every time, then why have a search button at all? I dont condone laziness.
just don't reply and ignore them, simple
I remember a time when people were helpful on XDA. They would share knowledge, help others who know less. Unfortunately, those days are long gone.
I have referred many friends and acquaintances to XDA Developers, telling them there are many very experienced guys - and girls - who are happy to help you... It gives many of them the experience they need.
But a number of these people would tell me that the people on XDA are, basically, jerks! Rather than complain along with others, I hope to get through to at least one of you.
XDA began as a site where anyone with a specific handheld device could ask any question in order to get help...with any problem they would encounter. It grew and added other devices. Now XDA has become the most reputable go-to site for help with any kind of phone. If anyone knows anything about phones they know XDA Developers.
Guys, this should not be a place to show-off, or to be rude or intimidating. Often, there are people with questions, or need help, advice...and they don't know anything. These are the people who need help the most. Your help. Please treat people the way YOU would want to be treated when YOU did not know anything at all. That is all I ask.
Thank you.
If you ask nicely, in the right place, you'll get an answer.
The problem is when people come demanding this or that, being rude and asking questions in the wrong places.
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my expirience is i been in 2 phone sections the skyrocket galaxy s2 and the lg g2.
in the s2 there were very helpful but when i came here i notice the same thing rather then getting help you get unnecessary post or answers.. or making fun of you or beign smartasses.. ive had a few arguments with some guys in here so they know who they are
the way i think is teach someone that someone will teach another, we are all different some will get it, and to some will be more difficult. instead ofa bogus post why not share link or type a helpful post.. then if you aint helping why post at all just ignore and go on with life..
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I remember a time when people were helpful on XDA. They would share knowledge, help others who know less. Unfortunately, those days are long gone.
I have referred many friends and acquaintances to XDA Developers, telling them there are many very experienced guys - and girls - who are happy to help you... It gives many of them the experience they need.
But a number of these people would tell me that the people on XDA are, basically, jerks! Rather than complain along with others, I hope to get through to at least one of you.
XDA began as a site where anyone with a specific handheld device could ask any question in order to get help...with any problem they would encounter. It grew and added other devices. Now XDA has become the most reputable go-to site for help with any kind of phone. If anyone knows anything about phones they know XDA Developers.
Guys, this should not be a place to show-off, or to be rude or intimidating. Often, there are people with questions, or need help, advice...and they don't know anything. These are the people who need help the most. Your help. Please treat people the way YOU would want to be treated when YOU did not know anything at all. That is all I ask.
Thank you.
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As a moderator and very active member of this community I see a lot. There are threads that I participate in as a member and those are the most friendly, helpful threads. I am actually shocked at the helpfulness and politeness in spite of the fact that people asking the questions failed to read as close as 2 posts above which had their answer. More and more members have joined this community and do not want to read even the basic requirement of the OP of the thread before they attempt to modify their $600 device. Too many members want an answer NAO without having to go to the trouble of reading or searching a little. The very first rule asks all members who join to search first. When I joined in 2010, I read for a month before making my first post. XDA was not a help desk then. It was a place to share knowledge. This is two very different things. People who genuinely want help, how to theme, how to change something, how to know how to adjust a kernel and figure out the best setting for themselves...those people usually get the help they need. But people that refuse to read, expecting the members of the thread to do it for them...then ask a question in a development thread like "Do I need root for this?" Then proceed to ask to be spoon fed how to do it? This probably will annoy some members that have done a little reading. So yes, the site has changed...you can expect that with going from a million members in 2010 to 7 million now. And on the other hand we do have rules regarding member conduct as well, and members should respect the new members and guide them..make this the site they want it to be and once was. I understand what you are saying but I also see many sides of this. I see new members being rude, demanding answers, expecting someone to answer within an hour of their question, as well as the other side of someone rudely stating "Search!". So it is not just one sided. Unfortunately I see this as a sign of what society in general is becoming as we overpopulate this poor ball of dirt hurtling through space.
Thank you, KennyG123. I cannot disagree with anything you stated. In fact, it reminds me that I forgot to mention to new members that they be polite, also. I cannot help but to agree with you 100%. We all need a little reminder sometimes. So I hope that someone...anyone reads this and think about how they treat others. I need it, too!
Again, Thank you, KennyG123.
This thread should be a sticky
Enjoyed this thoroughly.
Been on since my little Frodo Sony Xperia mini x10i (what a name) and right here are the two sides of coin.
When I came on I knew nothing - and asked some dumb questions, and did the searches etc.
Many of those searches came back with stuff I could not understand. And some of the people reproducing this info were jerks - concerned only with obfuscation and an invitation to pm.
However, people were not rude, so eventually you find someone same level or a little higher and you're off.
Then suddenly the nicest thing happens - someone asks for help...and you CAN help. You recognise yourself and step in and it's good - EVEN IF just to remind them that the answer is on the page before, and sometimes searching first will help. And this without the eye-rolling condescension...you all know what I mean.
I too have referred people here, impressed with my 'knowledge', and I'm like, no, look, it's this great community of people......and then have them come back all discouraged and they may as well just stick to whatever the corporations foist on them.
Then on the other hand, a couple of years ago I noticed a proliferating of the other kind of jerk - you know them also.
Badgering the creator of a post for eta's with funny emoticons, I just cant wait, are we there yet, huh, are we there yet, and by the way do you think we'll be getting Smartie for our phones, and over on the 'other' device, they've got the code to overlay on Marshmallow to port to Smartie, their phones are so much better, and more whining, and maybe YOU can do the port, and are we there yet, I'll check back in an hour, and oh ya, how do I root yadiyada - there's a stickie, first post by the way.
That also is plain rude. There's a community, find out a little about it first, or read the phone manual at least.
For both instances I find one thing; real XDAers do not snap at people, don't jeez I wish you'd read something first, aren't put off by being referred to search either, won't make anyone feel like they're time here has been wasted, nor that anyone else is dumb, they've all been there.
These are the fakers, and posers, and always, ALWAYS, at the centre of some flame war.
Of course sometimes you want to voice your opinion on something and read others too so over-moderation kills the fun. There can be discretion, and it is clear when a discussion has gone from heated to just plain chest thumping - step away.
So, you know, use common sense.
Finally, just one more thing, I learnt good moderators are actually very helpful...For anything.
Pm something. They'll point you somewhere, guaranteed. Let them know if you feel like you're being bullied WITH A LINK to where this is happening and they'll show up and clean up the thread and keep safe. Though look, if YOU are the one stirring stuff up and then reporting, that too will be seen, and in my experience, that's looked at as a worse offence than just not searching first, so be sure.
Something HAS happened to the entire world of social internet that I find reprehensible. People have become rude simply because it makes them feel better to put someone else down in style.
I don't know when it happened exactly - and it's everywhere, Reddit, Facebook, wherever.
At XDA we can at least keep reminding people to just have a good time and don't be rude. Do whatever you like; research and grow or ask stupid questions, just don't be rude. We care about everyone on here.
We actually do.
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CiscoKydd your thoughts are echoed by many on XDA. Heck we mods have the same thoughts from time to time.
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CiscoKydd said:
XDA began as a site where anyone with a specific handheld device could ask any question in order to get help...with any problem they would encounter.
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actually wasn't the guise under which XDA was created. It was a site by developers for developers. There were many times when a Dev would tell people to F off but by in large (as it is today) many were willing to share their knowledge.
CiscoKydd said:
Guys, this should not be a place to show-off, or to be rude or intimidating.
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We simply call this group the entitled.. Ask them, they will tell you it is so:silly:
A big change implemented a few years ago on XDA, came about with this small group in mind. We call it the report system (explained here):good:
While we like to see this behemoth (XDA) run like a well oiled machine, there will always be a wrench thrown into the cog. We (moderators/admin of XDA) ask that you NOT let yourselves get dragged into the battle of wills. A simple report with a simple explanation (in said report) usually lets us deal with a situation with little, to no drama left behind in its wake.
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Please treat people the way YOU would want to be treated when YOU did not know anything at all. That is all I ask.
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Cheers to that mate:good:
As membership continues to grow we can only hope that the few that read this remember why we are all here, to share and help others with what you know.
I have been "crying" to XDA for a number of years for help. I always got the help I needed. Most important, I got an education. There is more knowledge here on XDA than I could ever absorb! The hardest part was learning to search. But once I got over that hump I felt... Powerful!!
And I need to remind myself to be understanding, patient, respectful. You guys are right. It ain't easy sometimes. But XDA is a learning experience.
You guys are a good and knowledgeable bunch. Thanks. For everything.
I honestly feel this dependence on the question. I usually just look at topics rather then post in them, and I can see some people ask a certian question that other people regret as nubish, so suddenly they have "Nub mode" on. I just want them to remember that they, once upon a time were these so called noobs too.
Obviously this is not true about the majority of the people, just some.
Move this thread to "android general" or something, its useless to have it here
A short and good note mate ! but why here ?
Thanks for bringing this up.
Eminemiero said:
Move this thread to "android general" or something, its useless to have it here
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rajkatiyar07 said:
A short and good note mate ! but why here ?
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I assume the OP has a G2 and felt he would like to post his opinion on the subject in his general section.
This is fine:good:
TonyStark said:
Thanks for bringing this up.
I assume the OP has a G2 and felt he would like to post his opinion on the subject in his general section.
This is fine:good:
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No problem Mr. Stark !
Regards :- Jarvis
I don't know why but I really miss 2010 to 2012 gingerbread days
OP is right. I think this situation becomes because of release xda themes after 2010 version. I'am using 2010 theme and I think after 2010 themes are very compilcated and makes users nerveous and this is the reason why anyone not want to be help each other.
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I don't know why but I really miss 2010 to 2012 gingerbread days
OP is right. I think this situation becomes because of release xda themes after 2010 version. I'am using 2010 theme and I think after 2010 themes are very compilcated and makes users nerveous and this is the reason why anyone not want to be help each other.
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Thats funny, I came here in 2013 and I think that theme's the best and everything else is complicated. I miss the kitkat days.
Alradaev said:
I honestly feel this dependence on the question. I usually just look at topics rather then post in them, and I can see some people ask a certian question that other people regret as nubish, so suddenly they have "Nub mode" on. I just want them to remember that they, once upon a time were these so called noobs too.
Obviously this is not true about the majority of the people, just some.
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I can't remember ever being flamed for making a noob question. One of my first posts on this site was a silly question in a dev thread and the developer (LenAsh) just answered it respectfully. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones but my noobishness was only ever met with kindness and help.
I don't think I've experienced any rudeness when I've (albeit rarely) asked any questions since I started my Android journey in early-mid 2014. Before that I was an iOS guy, before that a Final Fantasy XI guy (MMORPG, was a moderator for a while of one of the biggest FFXI websites created by my best friend), and so on and so on. All forums that are a bit on the nerdy/technical/gadgets side have a problem with rude people. Lest we not forget the adage that the delightful guys at Penny Arcade put into a perfect cartoon: regular person + anonymity (sometimes)= bag of douche.
Having been a moderator I understand the frustration occasionally felt by @KennyG123 and @TonyStark. Why are some people such freakin jerks, yet others will type the same thing 10,000 times just to feel like they've helped 10,000 people. Why do some people read and search and learn first for a while before asking anything, yet others will ask (and almost demand) to have their hand held at every. single. step.? Maybe it's human nature?
I'm all about helping and being nice. Online and off.
people tend to ask first read later or no read at all.
they just want to post the question then go and do their own thing, come back later to see the answer.
while the thread starter wasted their own time to type the multiple posts of information/FAQ.
and last, this post should not be in this section as this is not even android related.
you post the wrong question in the wrong section and you still hope to get an answer?
I've been on the HTC wildfire, Nexus 5, Nexus 7 2013, Nexus 9 and LG G2 threads and have always found the other XDA members to be most helpful, (even though I'm not a flashaholic.)
However, I do make sure to search before asking questions and can therefore understand the frustration of answering questions that have been asked many times before. :angel:
So true but it seems out side of the G2 forums, there are still good people.
I had a good experience in the nexus 6 forums, never once got asked to "search before asking" best part of it is that I don't even have a N6 and the question I asked was actually illegal/criminal, I didn't know that at the time and those members explained in detail why it was illegal without bring disrespectful to me.
I honestly blame mods for not being strict enough.
I brought up a few specific xda members that were out right harassing people and I presented my case with evidence of repeated harassment.
The mod told me that I was over reacting. I said that by not doing anything about it they were condoning the action.
I wanted to strangle that mod, completely worthless. Police that don't enforce.
If the mods would start banning the few that are bringing xda down, then the problem would be solved.
But they won't do anything!
Mods have their work cut out for them here and I know they are doing the best they can, but it's not focused correctly to rectify the problem.
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