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I'm surprised how terrible the multitouch on this phone is. Playing games like 'MiniCommander' or 'PewPew' is impossible.
Check the development treads...
Use mik's or sipollo's
Hm I checked this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933686&page=32
but it seems there isn't any actual fix yet. Which fix are you using? How does it work?
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So I downloaded this: touchscreen-optimizations-kernel-signed-v1.1.zip. But I have no idea what to do after that. Any pointers on how to flash it to my device?
Flash it in recovery
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none of the kernels fix this.. multitouch is basically useless on this phone..
So I suppose that you don't use pinch to zoom in/out ...
cyanide911 said:
I'm surprised how terrible the multitouch on this phone is. Playing games like 'MiniCommander' or 'PewPew' is impossible.
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FYI, PewPew has settings to move the controllers
Guys, what do you mean by that terrible? Due to I am using multitouch with my LG Optimus One now and its quite fine with the photo gallery...
Although I am complaining about LG's stock UI overall performance, its quite laggy which I believe not the real performance that its hardware specs can deliver.
LGeee said:
Guys, what do you mean by that terrible? Due to I am using multitouch with my LG Optimus One now and its quite fine with the photo gallery...
Although I am complaining about LG's stock UI overall performance, its quite laggy which I believe not the real performance that its hardware specs can deliver.
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Get rid of the stock UI asap, use some better one like Launcher Pro. The stock UI has very laggy menus, especially the app drawer.
And try to play some games which involve multitouch, you'll get to know. Basic functions like pinch to zoom are fine but ones which involve crossing of axis are unusable.
I wonder if anyone here is delved deep enough into the inner workings of the camera system. Would it be possible, for example, to control the exposure settings independently for each lens?
That way, we could do *real* HDR shots that would blow the socks off the iPhone HDR stuff.
Of course, it wouldn't work for anything too close because of the distortion, but anything further away should work great.
Thoughts?
Would be a good idea!
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Agreed, HDR on my phone has been my dream for a while now. I plan on taking some skilled photos in 3d, and this would be awesome
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Speed Shooting
Would It Also Be Possible To Use Both Cameras For Speed Shooting?
Like Where One Would Take The Picture Then The Other Would Take It Again.
That Would Be Awesome.
This should be in q&a.....and I only say that because I opened this thread, not noticing the ?, thinking it was a working modification to the cameras. Might want to pm a mod and have it moved.
hockeyfamily737 said:
This should be in q&a.....and I only say that because I opened this thread, not noticing the ?, thinking it was a working modification to the cameras. Might want to pm a mod and have it moved.
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I think this is in the correct area. Yes, it is a question. But it is a question geared towards a topic that will in all likelihood take some heavy development.
The ideas for HDR and speed shots (halving the time between pictures) are great and definitely something I would use if/when they can be implemented.
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Would It Also Be Possible To Use Both Cameras For Speed Shooting?
Like Where One Would Take The Picture Then The Other Would Take It Again.
That Would Be Awesome.
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If your memory card could handle it I'm sure it's possible. You would probably need access to the kernel source to do much of anything with it though.
Imagine a camera app where each core gets a camera hdw to read and process.
Imagine a camera app where we know what each core is doing !
@ OP - wrong section. You developed?
@ Spartan15A - check the market "fast burst camera", is frakking awesome...
BANG! from my shooter...
The Android Camera API only allows you to specify one Camera at a time so you'll need to overcome that obstacle first. Mostly you are limited to what the Android Camera API makes available to you. In some cases you can include additional non-standard properties that the vendor's implementation checks for. Another possibility is that HTC will release a library to make more of the Camera features available.
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The Android Camera API only allows you to specify one Camera at a time so you'll need to overcome that obstacle first. Mostly you are limited to what the Android Camera API makes available to you. In some cases you can include additional non-standard properties that the vendor's implementation checks for. Another possibility is that HTC will release a library to make more of the Camera features available.
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I wonder if the cameras are even accessible independently at all, or if it just defaults to one of the two.
Have you guys seen the Sony Panorama camera app? Is that using both cameras?
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Have you guys seen the Sony Panorama camera app? Is that using both cameras?
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Cool app - but I don't think it uses the second camera.
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I wonder if the cameras are even accessible independently at all, or if it just defaults to one of the two.
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http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/Camera.html#open(int)
Try that method out and see.
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I think this is in the correct area. Yes, it is a question.
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Why is this so hard for people to understand. You yourself just said its a question...so therefore it should be in q&a. Development is for developing...Not Asking Questions. To the op, nice idea.
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I wish when in 2D mode the camera towards the middle was used. I always have a finger over the outside camera.
But yeah, HTC could really let us do some cool stuff with both cameras in 2D mode.
Moved to proper forum.
Not sure why this was moved, as it is clearly a development question (is it possible to access the hardware cameras independently - and if so, how?) but whatever...
Here's another application that we could use the two cameras for:
http://gizmodo.com/5822623/two-lenses-will-fix-compact-cameras-depth-of-field-proposes-samsung
Would probably need to go through the actual patent doc to figure out exactly what the method is...
I've tried most high-end android phones and find they all share the same touch lag issue. When I slide my finger on the screen, the screen doesn't react until my finger has moved a few millimeters or so(which is easily noticeable). This problem does not exist on iOS or WP7 or even Windows Mobile 6.
Is the touch lag related to the android kernal or the visual machine? Is it fixed on the Galaxy Nexus? If not, is it possible that the lag will be fixed in the future. I surely hope the problem be fixed way before the day when android fades away.
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I've tried most high-end android phones and find they all share the same touch lag issue. When I slide my finger on the screen, the screen doesn't react until my finger has moved a few millimeters or so(which is easily noticeable). This problem does not exist on iOS or WP7 or even Windows Mobile 6.
Is the touch lag related to the android kernal or the visual machine? Is it fixed on the Galaxy Nexus? If not, is it possible that the lag will be fixed in the future. I surely hope the problem be fixed way before the day when android fades away.
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Depends on the sensitivity settings of the touch screen according to the manufacturer. A lot of the phones like the HTC Raider or LG Optimus LTE don't have a delay between when you touch and when it reacts. But all current androids have a little lag in rendering the sliding animations, which is due to there being no GPU rendering present in pre 4.0 android OS's.
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Depends on the sensitivity settings of the touch screen according to the manufacturer. A lot of the phones like the HTC Raider or LG Optimus LTE don't have a delay between when you touch and when it reacts. But all current androids have a little lag in rendering the sliding animations, which is due to there being no GPU rendering present in pre 4.0 android OS's.
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The delay exists on the Sensation There isn't much difference between the sansation and the Raider right?
This is sorta like a topic where you can discuss what you would like to see on the Amaze. Roms, tweaks, mods, apps, anything.
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This is sorta like a topic where you can discuss what you would like to see on the Amaze. Roms, tweaks, mods, apps, anything.
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ICS with Sense 3.5 on our S-OFF devices.
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ICS with Sense 3.5 on our S-OFF devices.
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+1... With or without s-off id love to see that rom
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ICS, combination of voice technology like siri and vlingo combined, some good use of NFC like google wallet (although you'll still need your wallet!). I guess with ICS comes dual core support so ICS again. AOSP, with sense camera software, and some aspects of Sense contacts/dialer. Sense calendar!!! I guess I want sense but not all of it...always partial to sense!!!
For me, pretty much just ICS AOSP
ICS AOSP and Sense 3.5. With Sense, I wish it would follow dpi changes...
CM7 Tweaks; Gesture Unlock, Theme Support
I hope to see rom with enforce stereo↔mono recording with video related apps.
As you all know, mono recording is excellent with outdoor recording, but stereo is not.
And all video recording apps use stereo recording rather then mono recording
You can record in mono with amaze camera app lol
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Cyanigenmos giving this phone official support
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Cyanigenmos giving this phone official support
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I second that!
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You can record in mono with amaze camera app lol
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What I meant was that other then amaze camera app, the video recording apps are always using stereo rather then mono. I believe it is set to default.
Currently, I'm using Amaze as daily dash cam using Black box app and sound is just like when I record them with stereo. ( Image is sound is )
I have tried more then dozens car black box apps from market(free/paid) and every black box apps are using stereo recording other mono even if they have stereo/mono select button.
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What I meant was that other then amaze camera app, the video recording apps are always using stereo rather then mono. I believe it is set to default.
Currently, I'm using Amaze as daily dash cam using Black box app and sound is just like when I record them with stereo. ( Image is sound is )
I have tried more then dozens car black box apps from market(free/paid) and every black box apps are using stereo recording other mono even if they have stereo/mono select button.
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have you tried setting recording on mono in the amaze camera app and try recording with other apps?? just a thought, I don't know if this will really help, but it might.
I'd like to have a longer lasting battery. Throw ICS on top and for me it's the perfect phone.
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have you tried setting recording on mono in the amaze camera app and try recording with other apps?? just a thought, I don't know if this will really help, but it might.
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Tried that. Didn't work.
Well, I'm hoping that someday HTC or some dev figure this out.
Still, mono recording with amaze camera app is really good. Bad for market apps
papcoz said:
Tried that. Didn't work.
Well, I'm hoping that someday HTC or some dev figure this out.
Still, mono recording with amaze camera app is really good. Bad for market apps
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it personal experience its not too bad, its just a little more "trebly." probably has something to do with the other microphone, the noise cancelling one on the back. It's probably not as good as the main mic or made for a different purpose and now their using it to get stereo. when I listen to movies with my headphones it bothers me when its mono, i'd rather just turn the bass up a little and have stero !!! lol
maybe it'll be adressed it ICS if it's not a hardware issue.
why are you all so in hurry about ICS?. I've tried ICS on my nexus s and i rollback to gingerbread.. so many apps are not compatible with ICS yet, wait awhile before it's worthy of dev's hardwork. and ICS battery is simply terrible (compared both best battery saving ROM from ICS and GB @nexus s)
i'd say, what i miss from nexus s development is =
- swipe to clear notification
- power widget on notification (still better than quick setting)
- BLD (back light dimmer by ezeekel)
- live OC (overclock both CPU and GPU at the same time)
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why are you all so in hurry about ICS?. I've tried ICS on my nexus s and i rollback to gingerbread.. so many apps are not compatible with ICS yet, wait awhile before it's worthy of dev's hardwork. and ICS battery is simply terrible (compared both best battery saving ROM from ICS and GB @nexus s)
i'd say, what i miss from nexus s development is =
- swipe to clear notification
- power widget on notification (still better than quick setting)
- BLD (back light dimmer by ezeekel)
- live OC (overclock both CPU and GPU at the same time)
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you might be right, right now we have one core support on gingerbread. I can't imagine battery life when two cores are supported...It could be good or bad though, if used efficiently, two cores can draw lower power unless needed, but also give you the ability to perform better when you really need it.
I have seen a lot of complaints on the market that all these apps are not compatible with ICS. ICS is a lot of eye candy that can be achieved through skins themes and roms at this point, besides although I'm partial to sense, I would rather have a better working/more customizable sense (type of customization you see with adw and golauncher) that draws less cpu power and has more functionality than ICS.
Since my phone is stock I switch back and forth between adw and sense launcher and starting to like sense more and more. Some minor things that annoy me like unresizable widgets, and non customizable number of icons on the screen, and the dock bar could be used more efficiently to put icons on there as ICS has. I usually use one page with ADW for all my icons and widgets that i need. but with sense I have to use 3 pages.
With all this said I am looking forward to the combination of sense and ICS. I hope HTC does a good job on this...hopefully jump right to sense 4.0
I'd like 4G on my device, but that's a T-mo request not XDA, but I'd like to see ICS and Sense 3.5 or some variant and to know if our phones have a true dual-core cpu. I have read other forums about devices saying they have one but truly only one core works.
HONEYCOMB OR ICS
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AOSP Gingerbread 2.3.7 or CM9, whenever that comes out. I prefer the stock look, but also suffer from some of the few bugs that I'm experiencing in BeastMOD 2.3.0. I wish we had mods that weren't based on the HTC kernels and foundations.
http://m.androidauthority.com/sony-xperia-sirius-android-4-4-kitkat-337202/
Check it out. We might even be getting some of these features
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I like the 4k recording option as well as 120fps.
Is this leak for z ultra?
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Is this leak for z ultra?
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This leak is for new upcoming sony phone may be Z2.
Although we may get that feature I dont think we will
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I think some feature on da list need new hardware to work !!!
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Although we may get that feature I dont think we will
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Let's run through the list.
4K Video Recording: Needs a physical component to match, so no.
TimeShift Video: Also requires something physical.
Glove Mode: I suppose this means that it'll work with gloves or something? I've never had a problem with the Z Ultra responding to me with gloves on
Smart Backlight Control: This we could get, and it would be interesting. Probably a battery drain.
Double Tap to Wake: I'm curious how they do this; My guess is that they don't turn the touch screen off even when the screen is off... which we could emulate, but that's a battery drain too.
Built-in Answering Machine: Yeah, we could get that. I'm not entirely sure why one would want that, but we could get it.
Launcher Choice: We can easily get this.
Audio Accessories Functionality: This seriously just sounds like they're going to update their Smart Connect app to handle this stuff.
USB DAC: Definately needs a hardware component.
Notification Dropdown Customization: Wait, we can't do that yet?
Default SMS App: Again, we couldn't do that before? We totally SHOULD get that.
Printing: Should be getting that.
What's New: It's an app and looks like their replacement of Google Now... If they do it right, could work. We'll probably get it.
White Icons/Transparent Nav Bar: I could have sworn the thing already did this, but regardless, that's probably comming in the 4.4 update.
Close All Apps: That'll be added for sure.
The things to be most excited about propbably all require some hardware component, while the things that are expected with the 4.4 update will come easily.
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Let's run through the list.
4K Video Recording: Needs a physical component to match, so no.
TimeShift Video: Also requires something physical.
Glove Mode: I suppose this means that it'll work with gloves or something? I've never had a problem with the Z Ultra responding to me with gloves on
Smart Backlight Control: This we could get, and it would be interesting. Probably a battery drain.
Double Tap to Wake: I'm curious how they do this; My guess is that they don't turn the touch screen off even when the screen is off... which we could emulate, but that's a battery drain too.
Built-in Answering Machine: Yeah, we could get that. I'm not entirely sure why one would want that, but we could get it.
Launcher Choice: We can easily get this.
Audio Accessories Functionality: This seriously just sounds like they're going to update their Smart Connect app to handle this stuff.
USB DAC: Definately needs a hardware component.
Notification Dropdown Customization: Wait, we can't do that yet?
Default SMS App: Again, we couldn't do that before? We totally SHOULD get that.
Printing: Should be getting that.
What's New: It's an app and looks like their replacement of Google Now... If they do it right, could work. We'll probably get it.
White Icons/Transparent Nav Bar: I could have sworn the thing already did this, but regardless, that's probably comming in the 4.4 update.
Close All Apps: That'll be added for sure.
The things to be most excited about propbably all require some hardware component, while the things that are expected with the 4.4 update will come easily.
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Glove Mode: Yes, this is so we can use it with gloves on, but the Ultra doesn't have issues with (thin) gloves, so meh..
Smart Backlight Control: This is a software feature, so we could easily get it.
Double Tap to Wake: It'll work on the Ultra, but i'm not sure how it works.
Notification Dropdown Customization: We'll get the Quick Toggles like in AOSP (but skinned), so that's probably what they mean.
Default SMS App: Yes, we can do this today, but KitKat introduced its own API to handle this, so it's officially a native feature, which isn't the case on older firmwares. It's a stock 4.4 feature, and that's pretty much it.
Printing: This is also a stock 4.4 feature, so we'll get it.
What's New: 100% software, so we'll probably get it. This is bloat in my eyes though, so i'll remove it.
White Icons/Transparent Nav Bar: 4.4 introduced transparent statusbar and navbar, so it's required to have white statusbar icons so the statusbar icons doesn't clash with the rest of the UI. It's a requirement from Google.
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Glove Mode: Yes, this is so we can use it with gloves on, but the Ultra doesn't have issues with (thin) gloves, so meh..
Smart Backlight Control: This is a software feature, so we could easily get it.
Double Tap to Wake: It'll work on the Ultra, but i'm not sure how it works.
Notification Dropdown Customization: We'll get the Quick Toggles like in AOSP (but skinned), so that's probably what they mean.
Default SMS App: Yes, we can do this today, but KitKat introduced its own API to handle this, so it's officially a native feature, which isn't the case on older firmwares. It's a stock 4.4 feature, and that's pretty much it.
Printing: This is also a stock 4.4 feature, so we'll get it.
What's New: 100% software, so we'll probably get it. This is bloat in my eyes though, so i'll remove it.
White Icons/Transparent Nav Bar: 4.4 introduced transparent statusbar and navbar, so it's required to have white statusbar icons so the statusbar icons doesn't clash with the rest of the UI. It's a requirement from Google.
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in other words, no real news...
blueether said:
in other words, no real news...
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Yeah, we could say that
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Yeah, we could say that
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Or we could wait for actual release before making wrong conclusion
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Or we could wait for actual release before making wrong conclusion
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Neeh, it's not like we don't know what 4.4 introduces, so it's fairly accurate to say that it won't bring anything "new" to the table
What I already know is that I'll remove quite a lot of unnecessary features that I'm not going to use. That I can tell you
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I've heard a lot of people complaining that Sony is going the "Samsung way", adding more and more layers to an up-until-now almost-vanilla stock Sony rom.
I don't think that at all. Almost everyone of those updates adds something new that could be useful but most likely will not choke the processor or use the whole 2GB of Ram memory.
The most useful feature I see is the knock on one, because it actually is a pain in the arse to get to that micro button, especially with a cover/bumper on.
Adjustable white balance could be good, but I don't personally need it. I don't care about gloves, nor I care about the smart backlight: never used on Sammy, will never use it on Sony.
Answering machine? No way, I hate those things.
We will for sure get printing options (not that I print the that much from my phone), audio accessories functionality (depending on how they'll develop them, this could be useful) notification dropdown customization (I have mixed feelings about this, but I could get used to the AOSP notification system) what's new (more like who cares) white icons and transparent status bar (although now everything is customizable through themes) and close all apps (a thing you can get right now, even if you're not rooted or unlocked. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49517494, install, reboot, get the "close all" button. It is a Sony app after all.).
The only features we definitely won't have will be 4K recording and timeshift video, but anyone with a Ultra most likely won't care about camera features in the first place.
P. S. The knock on feature can be enabled in several devices with a specific kernel, so the battery drain isn't that much, and by the way, the S800 processor is the same used by LG G2.
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P. S. The knock on feature can be enabled in several devices with a specific kernel, so the battery drain isn't that much, and by the way, the S800 processor is the same used by LG G2.
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Ah yes, the S800 has a low power mode like the Moto X, so it won't actually use a lot of power in standby. Totally forgot about that
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Ah yes, the S800 has a low power mode like the Moto X, so it won't actually use a lot of power in standby. Totally forgot about that
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I love it because I'm always right.
If Sony does its homework and brings 4.4 in February/March, I won't give up and remain stock.
If not, GPe, here I come...
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doesn't our chipset support 4k? so the update could be software related
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doesn't our chipset support 4k? so the update could be software related
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It does, actually.
Problem is the camera isn't capable of 4K recording.
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fastest83 said:
It does, actually.
Problem is the camera isn't capable of 4K recording.
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that's right our award winning camera. :silly:
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that's right our award winning camera. :silly:
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Rumor has James Cameron bought 50 Ultras to film his next colossal.
True story.
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Rumor has James Cameron bought 50 Ultras to film his next colossal.
True story.
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Yup, here's the first leaked shot from Avatar 2 filmed with the Ultra.