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Hi,
I just got home my Samsung Galaxy II, and i am thinking about rooting it.I want to know if it gets better or more worse( for example the battery)
But can anybody tell me the positive things and the negative affects of rooting the phone?
\You only root for access to administration rights on OS . You dont root if you do not use apps that dont need root .
Root has nothing to do with battery at all .
Root or custom roms void warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
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JJEgan said:
\You only root for access to administration rights on OS . You dont root if you do not use apps that dont need root .
Root has nothing to do with battery at all .
Root or custom roms void warranty
jje
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Here. But if you put back the stock ROM and kernel before servicing and use a USB Jig to reset the ROM counter I don't think they will understand that it was rooted, so in that case it shouldn't void your warranty.
Regards.
Before you root... have a reason to do it. Don't just root so you can say you've done it. You're better off leaving things in a warranty state as long as you can.
There is no negative to root, only positive. Root gives you added functionality and features with zero downsides.
but if i dont root, can i still download good free apps? or is it only bad apps if i dont root?
rafflan said:
but if i dont root, can i still download good free apps? or is it only bad apps if i dont root?
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There are tons of great apps. Just browse the Android Market. A small portion of those require rooting.
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Root or custom roms void warranty
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This is not neccessarily true. Danish consumer law, which is derived from a European Union directive imposes a mandatory 24 month warranty period. Naturally it does not cover third party software such as Lite'ning or Villain, but unless rooting or flashing is the cause of the failure, the warranty still applies. Since software cannot physically break, the primary use of a warranty is in the event of hardware failure, where the warranty still applies - despite flashing/rooting.
sinspawn said:
This is not neccessarily true. Danish consumer law, which is derived from a European Union directive imposes a mandatory 24 month warranty period. Naturally it does not cover third party software such as Lite'ning or Villain, but unless rooting or flashing is the cause of the failure, the warranty still applies. Since software cannot physically break, the primary use of a warranty is in the event of hardware failure, where the warranty still applies - despite flashing/rooting.
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Yes, that's true, if you wanted to be 100% clear and honest about issues and what causes them. Your provider, however, will disagree. They will say "You've installed custom firmware on your device. That means we aren't responsible for any problems." which I totally understand, despite the fact that a problem is usually nothing to do with this!
Only root if you can live with the consequence of bricking your phone. If that won't be the end of the world for you, then root because you learn so much about Android doing so and you can have so much more fun with your phone. But if you can't, stay away because you will have occasions when things go wrong and you will wish you had left your perfectly fine phone alone.
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Yes, that's true, if you wanted to be 100% clear and honest about issues and what causes them. Your provider, however, will disagree. They will say "You've installed custom firmware on your device. That means we aren't responsible for any problems." which I totally understand, despite the fact that a problem is usually nothing to do with this!
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I understand that flashing could give a shady retailer an opportunity to BS it's way out of it's liabilities, if the customer is not familiar with law and processes.
Because if a retailer denied me a repair, I know the exact buttons to push to bring sense into his head.
I don't know about the UK, but in Denmark we have an authority called the Consumer Appeals Committee that adresses complaints from consumers. It requires a £20 deposit to file a complaint, a fee that will be refunded unless you lose the complaint. If you win, the retailer must follow the verdict and additionally pay a £1600 processing fee. The mere risk of of losing a case at the appeals committee and paying the processing fee is usually enough to bring the retailer on track.
Ok, so if i dont root, it is better if i get a problem with the phone and wants to change it or something.I dont think im gonna root because i can get some good free apps.
rafflan said:
Ok, so if i dont root, it is better if i get a problem with the phone and wants to change it or something.I dont think im gonna root because i can get some good free apps.
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When you need an app that needs root then root .
If you can unroot return to stock and clear the rom counter then you should have something like a 99% chance of passing any inspection .
Its not the seller or repair man that voids warranty Samsung decide what they will repair or pay for repairing . Letters sent out clearly state they will not reimburse repairs for work on phones with custom roms or rooted .Repair centre guy though has the choice if he so wants to ignore custom rom and just flash a stock rom without saying a word to Samsung .
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Personally, if you're perfectly ok with your phone the way it is, don't root it. It looks to me like you don't need the things rooting provides and you haven't needed an app that requires root access.
Also, rooting can brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing. I suggest getting familiar with your phone before venturing into root. Although its an exciting world once you step through that door.
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Does rooting the phone (which I understand gives me administrator rights) give access to more settings options? Other than being able to install some more apps, are there any other benefits? I'd really appreciate some examples..
hjf3Gd said:
Does rooting the phone (which I understand gives me administrator rights) give access to more settings options? Other than being able to install some more apps, are there any other benefits? I'd really appreciate some examples..
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Rooting really has nothing to do with being able to use different apps, or free apps. Rooting is all about getting more function out of your phone, more settings from a good ROM, new features like enabled FM radio and things like that. Apps aren't really relevant. You can go get pirated apps from anywhere and don't need root for that.
Root is about gaining admin rights to your hardware to do anything and hack it to death.
I see. I am running a standard ROM, I'm on O2 in the UK. What extra features will rooting unlock?
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DO IT. END OF.
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I'm not a programmer. Actually starting school for programming in a month, but what makes it hard for Devs to unlock them selves?
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128-bit encryption key
Which is quite interesting. I am guessing they did it to prevent people from bricking their systems and returning them when in fact they are probably getting more returns now than they would have had the bootloader not been encrypted.
yup, by now the devs would probably have custom roms fixing all the issues...
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yup, by now the devs would probably have custom roms fixing all the issues...
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128-bit encryption key
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this means there are 128 ^2 possible combinations to test before finding the one for your device. This amount of tries would take years to brute force (trying every single one till you found it) even on today's most powerful super computers.
Paris6906 said:
this means there are 128 ^2 possible combinations to test before finding the one for your device. This amount of tries would take years to brute force (trying every single one till you found it) even on today's most powerful super computers.
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So close. It's actually 2^128. That's two to the power of one-hundred twenty eight.
Question, when you unlock the bootloader your warranty becomes void. Will there be a way to re-lock for warranty purposes?
hashish16 said:
Question, when you unlock the bootloader your warranty becomes void. Will there be a way to re-lock for warranty purposes?
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no one is really going to know how it all works for asus until asus releases their tool with the specifics on everything.
but as far as the law goes, if whatever you need warranty work for has nothing to do with you loading custom roms or messing with the kernel etc, you should have no problem sending it in for warranted repairs.
ie, the power button is broken or the screen dies
Rooting can become illegal soon
But once your unlocked warranty void forever because they track serial
tylermaciaszek said:
Rooting can become illegal soon
But once your unlocked warranty void forever because they track serial
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I read that is what apple is doing and they are close to passing the bill. Its ridiculous, rooting is not all about pirating, its mostly for performance.
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Evo_Shift said:
Which is quite interesting. I am guessing they did it to prevent people from bricking their systems and returning them when in fact they are probably getting more returns now than they would have had the bootloader not been encrypted.
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IIRC Asus did explicitly say that it was nVidia forcing them to lock the bootloader on the Prime. This could of course be BS, but after such a public statement saying this, nVidia would have gone apesh*t if it was not the truth.
It's all to do with the Tegra3 and the Prime being basically a prototype released only for mass beta testing. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Still love my Prime though.
tylermaciaszek said:
Rooting can become illegal soon
But once your unlocked warranty void forever because they track serial
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It doesn't have to be! It is not a bill, but an exemption to the DMCA. If we can show our support by contacting the Copyright office and showing them that jailbreaking/rooting is beneficial, they can extend the exemption. The EFF has more info on how to contact the Copyright office and how to request that other electronics be included (did you know that tablets are NOT covered in the exemption?) like consoles, tablets, and more.
https://www.eff.org/pages/jailbreaking-not-crime-tell-copyright-office-free-your-devices
XDA has 337,000 active members. This effects all of us. Let them know it should not be illegal to use your electronics however you wish!
It does not affect ALL of us by any means, however, I have already shown my support by donating to the EFF. It's disgusting that a device that you have paid your hard earned cash for can be ruled over with an iron fist as though you are simply renting it for the duration of it's life....
.... Oh that business model sounds familiar.
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It does not affect ALL of us by any means...
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I assume that if you are on here, you are either a dev or get support from a dev. In either case, making rooting illegal again would give manufacturers cause to turn a deaf ear to us, making it more difficult to impossible to work with these devices and in turn help others. Even if you have never rooted a phone or even heard of jailbreaking, you would still (indirectly, yes) be affected, since fewer will want to put themselves in that position.
Devs will usually find a way around these locks, but the level of support will not be there as they will think twice about breaking the law (in the US at least).
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I assume that if you are on here, you are either a dev or get support from a dev. In either case, making rooting illegal again would give manufacturers cause to turn a deaf ear to us, making it more difficult to impossible to work with these devices and in turn help others. Even if you have never rooted a phone or even heard of jailbreaking, you would still (indirectly, yes) be affected, since fewer will want to put themselves in that position.
Devs will usually find a way around these locks, but the level of support will not be there as they will think twice about breaking the law (in the US at least).
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I concede, you make a very good point. I was referring to the fact that I am in the UK and therefore it does not DIRECTLY affect me, but again, you ARE right.
Doktaphex said:
I concede, you make a very good point. I was referring to the fact that I am in the UK and therefore it does not DIRECTLY affect me, but again, you ARE right.
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Thank you for supporting the EFF! All I can do at the moment is to support by getting people motivated.
monkey10120 said:
I read that is what apple is doing and they are close to passing the bill. Its ridiculous, rooting is not all about pirating, its mostly for performance.
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Rooting can be considered as illegal as it uses hacking methods, and so break the software that belongs to the company made the device, even if the software is in majority open source, there are always closed parts that are concern by trading laws.
And be precise please, the'illegal' rooting stuff is ONLY concerning USA.
Plenty of places with some very smart devs where rooting will never become illegal. Russia as an example, or China (where the exemption would only apply to US built product). If some countries want to kill off their engineering and software development communities, plenty of other places in the world will be only too happy to step in and take over.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, android is open source. So then there's no copyright infringement unless you hack the apps or something. IOS on the other hand isn't open source so jailbreaking it could be seen as infringing. But I still disagree that rooting/ jailbreaking should be illegal.
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Hi,
Here's a unique idea.
Let's pass the word to boycott Samsung over the whole KNOX fiasco.
Use social media, ie. twitter, facebook, etc. to pass the word.
Tell everyone you know not to buy a Samsung phone this holiday season.
The only thing that will make companies take notice is if we take action.
1. Just the attempt to downgrade firmware or load unauthorized firmware triggers KNOX in 4.3 and voids your warranty.
2. Now that's not bad enough, because even if you now load a signed piece of firmware KNOX still stays triggered.
3. If my warranty is now void, I should be able to do what I want, but nooooo, my bootloader is still locked and I have no warranty.
So Samsung should fix this. Just trying to do something should not void my warranty, especially since they block the possibility of being able to change the bootloader.
This is not Samsung's device.
Everyone does not need nor want KNOX and those that need it, know it.
The majority of devices are not enterprise, so why are they forcing an enterprise and NSA solution down our throats!
BOYCOTT SAMSUNG!!!
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Hi,
Here's a unique idea.
Let's pass the word to boycott Samsung over the whole KNOX fiasco.
Use social media, ie. twitter, facebook, etc. to pass the word.
Tell everyone you know not to buy a Samsung phone this holiday season.
The only thing that will make companies take notice is if we take action.
1. Just the attempt to downgrade firmware or load unauthorized firmware triggers KNOX in 4.3 and voids your warranty.
2. Now that's not bad enough, because even if you now load a signed piece of firmware KNOX still stays triggered.
3. If my warranty is now void, I should be able to do what I want, but nooooo, my bootloader is still locked and I have no warranty.
So Samsung should fix this. Just trying to do something should not void my warranty, especially since they block the possibility of being able to change the bootloader.
This is not Samsung's device.
Everyone does not need nor want KNOX and those that need it, know it.
The majority of devices are not enterprise, so why are they forcing an enterprise and NSA solution down our throats!
BOYCOTT SAMSUNG!!!
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I was going to say a lot of the obvious, but let's just say this is um admirable.
tech_head said:
Hi,
Here's a unique idea.
Let's pass the word to boycott Samsung over the whole KNOX fiasco.
Use social media, ie. twitter, facebook, etc. to pass the word.
Tell everyone you know not to buy a Samsung phone this holiday season.
The only thing that will make companies take notice is if we take action.
1. Just the attempt to downgrade firmware or load unauthorized firmware triggers KNOX in 4.3 and voids your warranty.
2. Now that's not bad enough, because even if you now load a signed piece of firmware KNOX still stays triggered.
3. If my warranty is now void, I should be able to do what I want, but nooooo, my bootloader is still locked and I have no warranty.
So Samsung should fix this. Just trying to do something should not void my warranty, especially since they block the possibility of being able to change the bootloader.
This is not Samsung's device.
Everyone does not need nor want KNOX and those that need it, know it.
The majority of devices are not enterprise, so why are they forcing an enterprise and NSA solution down our throats!
BOYCOTT SAMSUNG!!!
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For your #1, how did you load unauthorized firmware?
I don't understand your #2...what "piece of firmware"?
How do you know it voids your warranty? Did you have issues with the warranty?
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I really doubt something like this would work. The only people on board would be those of us who mod, which make up such a small portion of Samsung's sales, they wouldn't care. The general consumer is where they get their money and said general consumer couldn't care less about Knox.
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Tell your friends and family. Word of mouth is huge.
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Samsung sold 213 million phones in 2012.
Two things...
1) Though XDA and all seems huge, only a really really small percentage of cell phone users play around with crap that will effect knox. I doubt a large number of those "don't care" people are going to want join your campaign.
2) There are a lot of great things about Samsung phones and products. It's like people complaining about VZW cost and billing and marketing, but they have great coverage and I'd never switch because someone starts a "boycot Verizon for $$ reasons".
I don't like the S4 lockdown either, but I'd rather have a locked S4 than an unlocked G2.
JeeperDon said:
I don't like the S4 lockdown either, but I'd rather have a locked S4 than an unlocked G2.
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Not sure I'd agree with this. At the same time o hate Samsung, I'd have a Motorola phone if I wouldn't have had to upgrade when I did. Kind of screwed me.
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Not sure I'd agree with this.
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You don't have to.
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You don't have to.
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Yea ik. Exactly why I put "at the same time I hate Samsung" so I'm kind of biased
They can make lock downs most of this is to stop forms of piracy in my opinion. I'm new to rooting but I'm from the modding scene. I have no worries do to developers here as I do on game system modding. Give them time nintendo,Sony and Microsoft have done similiar things with updates the push regularly to their gaming consoles and boycoting will not work do to the modding group is a small group that has a small impact they already planned on loosing.
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Boycott yourself, this would defeat the purpose of "DEVELOPER" phones...you knew what you were getting into when buying a consumer s4.
When will people think logically? Samsung wants security. They sell the developer phones completely unlocked for US.
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Knox is high security put on the phone as a bid to gain military contracts. They only want the most secure phones. Do you think Samsung will stop trying to get that military high $$$ over a few people saying they won't buy anymore? Also add to this many corporate businesses that buy bulk phones and contracts and want a more secure phone for their Exchange and corporate software. XDA users are barely a ripple in that ocean of waves.
you should have bought a developer edition if locked bootloader was a concern.
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not that it matters but i believe a korean family controls 46% of samsung husband wife and 3 kids. just saying.
eklipz3 said:
not that it matters but i believe a korean family controls 46% of samsung husband wife and 3 kids. just saying.
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Okay, so you're going to tell their kids that their daddy is a bad man for locking bootloaders? Tell their kids they won't get Christmas presents if they don't get their parents to unlock bootloaders?
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Okay, so you're going to tell their kids that their daddy is a bad man for locking bootloaders? Tell their kids they won't get Christmas presents if they don't get their parents to unlock bootloaders?
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The kids don't care. They have the Developers Edition.
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Okay, so you're going to tell their kids that their daddy is a bad man for locking bootloaders? Tell their kids they won't get Christmas presents if they don't get their parents to unlock bootloaders?
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sorry i should have made myself a little more clear about the kids but they are adults as well and are vp's and such of samsung and i think the oldest girl was just promoted to run some part of sammy. and yes i bet there's is not locked.
eklipz3 said:
sorry i should have made myself a little more clear about the kids but they are adults as well and are vp's and such of samsung and i think the oldest girl was just promoted to run some part of sammy. and yes i bet there's is not locked.
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Umm...yeah...because the international versions are not locked...neither is Sprint...it is a carrier request to lock bootloaders on Samsung phones, otherwise all phones would be locked. Locked bootloaders and Knox are not the same thing. This thread states it is about Knox. True that Knox in the bootloader prevents you from downgrading the firmware...but does not equal locked. There are many phones with locked bootloaders but no Knox.
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you should have bought a developer edition if locked bootloader was a concern.
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It's not just about a locked bootloader.
If that was all, no issues.
KNOX and SE Linux are now baked in from the bootloader up.
No it was not on my phone when I first got my phone and was not detailed before they rolled it out.
Messing with the bootloader in anyway even an attempted downgrade, void your warranty.
Not tampering by using unauthorized software, but just trying to go to an older version of *SIGNED* firmware will void your warranty.
My issue is this, if my warranty is now void, why can't I install any *SIGNED* firmware that came on the phone?
Hello Do-Gooders,
I recently got a new phone the Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime w/ Android 5.1.1 Lollipop.
I need to find the free apk Plex app. For some reason I think this phone may be too new for a free apk Plex app for it. I'm seeing apk for Android 4, 4.4 and so now but not for Android 5.1.1.
Can someone please send me a link or can tell me a good apk app website to look.
Thanks a bunch,
For plex you can get it on apkmirror http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/plex-inc/plex/plex-android-4-17-2-488-android-apk-download/
Not working
Thanks but it didn't work. Keeps wanting me to pay.
I wasn't able to post a screenshot due to the fact that I'm a new user on XDA and don't have my 10 posts up yet Stupid Rule...
Do I need to root my phone or something?
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Thanks but it didn't work. Keeps wanting me to pay.
I wasn't able to post a screenshot due to the fact that I'm a new user on XDA and don't have my 10 posts up yet Stupid Rule...
Do I need to root my phone or something?
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The app is free but you have to pay for the service itself.
Not paying for the service is technically illegal so I wont post how to do it here.
finsfree said:
Thanks but it didn't work. Keeps wanting me to pay.
I wasn't able to post a screenshot due to the fact that I'm a new user on XDA and don't have my 10 posts up yet Stupid Rule...
Do I need to root my phone or something?
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plex app is on google play for free, and claims to support v 3 and up.
if the app requires you to pay for certain features, or whatever the app does, then pay for it, or go ask on some other forum.
quote from the forum rules you agreed to when you signed up,
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Hello dear, as they are, I introduce myself, I'm Martin from ARGENTINA.
I have an S7 Edge that I could take out of the negative band by changing the IMEI. It broke my brother and after a while without using it could not register more in the NET .....
I was able to perfectly do it myself to all the work while I had Nougat 7 .....
I updated it to OREO 8 and I could not re-patch the certificate ..... looking and searching to find that it can only be done with versions 31.1 or higher of SamsungTool Z3X .... the version I have is 29.5 with crack Without Box ....
What I had to do was take the phone to a Service and patch the certificate with the BOX ....
After that, at the time, I blocked the Bynary for security frp ...... as I was getting the new phone (MiA1) I flashed it back and left there without using the S7 ....
someone has some crack version of Z3X higher than 31 to use without box ??? It hurts me that such a phone is there in disuse.
Greetings.
that "crack" you`re looking for will bypass the paid feature of that tool so no, you won`t receive any help here on XDA for such cracks
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