I am running CM12.1 + M5 Kernel UNDERVOLTED
2.3ghz voltage is 0.900v
I am using EX Kernel manager to show my cpu temp in status bar and I am running StabilityTest v2.7 to stress it .
After 5 minutes of continous stress , the cpu temp is 84 celsius degrees , is this normal ? It's possible to be a sensor reading bug in EX Kernel manager ?
after 15 minutes of stress the temp is 91 ? c'mon is this true ? the phone should be untouchable at that temp but is pretty fine lol . Could be temperature sensor bug ? I hope so
Its weird,i remember my cpu hiting 83-85c and shutting down automatically when i used stability test..but.. i had 4 cores overclocked to 2.7ghz on about 1100v so its a bit of imposibility to have 91c on 900mv.. try kernel adiutor mayby?And Believe me it would be hot as hell as i couldn't handle mine during the tests and cpu was 'only' 85
d22ad2 said:
Its weird,i remember my cpu hiting 83-85c and shutting down automatically when i used stability test..but.. i had 4 cores overclocked to 2.7ghz on about 1100v so its a bit of imposibility to have 91c on 900mv.. try kernel adiutor mayby?And Believe me it would be hot as hell as i couldn't handle mine during the tests and cpu was 'only' 85
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes , sound weird , it even goes to 93 degree but still running lol
and yes , the case is not that incredible hot
what rom and kernel you use ? I am using CM12.1 and M5 kernel , maybe that's why sensor reading is bugged , also if I use Cpu Temp app I get 9c lower temps :-/
just asking , how did you kill 2 z2 ?
Currently im on existenz 7.0 + androplus kernel v72,but i was also playing with overclocking etc on cm12.1 and m5 kernel v10.2 some time ago. On both i never got higher than 80-85 degrees without shutdown..And its really hard to get that 80 degree on 2265mhz even after about 10 mins of stability test for me. Only get that high temperatures on voltages above 950-1000mv and long tests.Look at my kernel adiutor settings in attachment. It must be a bug with EX kernel. Probably the cpu temp shows right one.
Ah and i killed 2 because i wanted to switch their motherboards.My carrier permamently locks bl and i wanted an unlockable one.It was a stupid thing to do..but it was a long time ago when i didnt knew many things yet
d22ad2 said:
Currently im on existenz 7.0 + androplus kernel v72,but i was also playing with overclocking etc on cm12.1 and m5 kernel v10.2 some time ago. On both i never got higher than 80-85 degrees without shutdown..And its really hard to get that 80 degree on 2265mhz even after about 10 mins of stability test for me. Only get that high temperatures on voltages above 950-1000mv and long tests.Look at my kernel adiutor settings in attachment. It must be a bug with EX kernel. Probably the cpu temp shows right one.
Ah and i killed 2 because i wanted to switch their motherboards.My carrier permamently locks bl and i wanted an unlockable one.It was a stupid thing to do..but it was a long time ago when i didnt knew many things yet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh , good to hear that .
And about your 2 dead z2 , sorry for asking too many questions but I am curious when it comes to this stuff because I also disassembled many phones and my Z2 to do some camera improvement . How exactly you killed the motherboard ? some short circuit or physical damage like scratch or crack ?
When i started the phone after replacing the old board with new unlockable one from the other z2 and doing a fresh ftf install it started to boot..and died..permamently.Pc companion,flashtool,even service didnt revive it (they tried testpoint etc.).I tried to put back my old Locked Mb instead and same thing happened.So i sold my main z2 as a non booting and the second one which already had a cracked digitizer (the one from which i took the unlockable mb from) i sold in parts.Not sure why i was so stubborn but i got third one which i use now and it was unlockable since the beginning..
d22ad2 said:
When i started the phone after replacing the old board with new unlockable one from the other z2 and doing a fresh ftf install it started to boot..and died..permamently.Pc companion,flashtool,even service didnt revive it (they tried testpoint etc.).I tried to put back my old Locked Mb instead and same thing happened.So i sold my main z2 as a non booting and the second one which already had a cracked digitizer (the one from which i took the unlockable mb from) i sold in parts.Not sure why i was so stubborn but i got third one which i use now and it was unlockable since the beginning..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
maybe you screwed up some battery pins on that flex and fried some part , no idea , very weird
anyway , good thing to know , not to mess with removing motherboard ... I love the SoC from my phone because it runs stable 2.3ghz with 900mv and this seems to be very rare .
Thanks for the help and also for telling me the story of your 2 phones
Related
Hi all,
I have been browsing this forum for a while now and finally decided to register.
After getting incredibly frustrated waiting for HTC and T-mobile to get their act together and release 2.1 I followed the guides on here and rooted my G2.
I originally flashed VillainROM10.3 and then upgraded to VillainROM12. Both of which are great!
I have since been playing with the CPU speed. I see many people on here claiming CPU speeds of ~750Mhz, however the most I seem to be able to get out of my phone is ~650Mhz (I'm using OverclockWidget from the market to set the frequencies). Is this a problem anyone else has experienced? If so is it down to my phone having a duff CPU or could the problem be with the ROM or the widget I'm using. Whenever I set the phone to anything higher than 650 it either just freezes or reboots itself.
Thanks Guys (and girls?)
hopoffbaby said:
Hi all,
I have been browsing this forum for a while now and finally decided to register.
After getting incredibly frustrated waiting for HTC and T-mobile to get their act together and release 2.1 I followed the guides on here and rooted my G2.
I originally flashed VillainROM10.3 and then upgraded to VillainROM12. Both of which are great!
I have since been playing with the CPU speed. I see many people on here claiming CPU speeds of ~750Mhz, however the most I seem to be able to get out of my phone is ~650Mhz (I'm using OverclockWidget from the market to set the frequencies). Is this a problem anyone else has experienced? If so is it down to my phone having a duff CPU or could the problem be with the ROM or the widget I'm using. Whenever I set the phone to anything higher than 650 it either just freezes or reboots itself.
Thanks Guys (and girls?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's as simple as; some phones simply can't handle higher MHz
So if I flash for example SuperHero which is supposed to be clocked by default at 691Mhz will my phone freeze on boot or is it smart enough to figure out its max speed.
hopoffbaby said:
So if I flash for example SuperHero which is supposed to be clocked by default at 691Mhz will my phone freeze on boot or is it smart enough to figure out its max speed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will probably freeze but there are kernels the isn't overclocked that high by default
So I don't mean to keep going on about it but when I flashed VR12 the description said:
...
- 19MHz to 748MHz OC kernel
...
However when I run it the default speed its using is 619? Is that normal?
hopoffbaby said:
So I don't mean to keep going on about it but when I flashed VR12 the description said:
...
- 19MHz to 748MHz OC kernel
...
However when I run it the default speed its using is 619? Is that normal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. Many ROMs aren't set to the highest available clock speed by default because there are phones like yours that can't handle it
Hello people
I've got a strange problem.
My phone's cpu seems to be stuck on the max cpu frequency that I've set it at, which is 787Mhz.
I don't know why this is but I've checked the Setcpu profiles, nothing there.
I've checked all of my apps to see which one is using all that cpu, but all of them don't add too 100%
I don't know whats using this mystery 60%
Dose anyone know whats going on ???
there is nothing wrong with your phone....All that this means is that your phone is running at a higher clock speed (eating battery) while not doing heavier task...u can force your phone to run at a lower clock like 480MHZ
Right OK but most of the time setcpu tells me that the frequency continually changes but it's just static. which it's never done that
Ok ill do the underclocking idea
my p500 can oc to 804 but sometime it's error ; sorry for my English I'm in thailand ^^
sarfaraz1989 said:
there is nothing wrong with your phone....All that this means is that your phone is running at a higher clock speed (eating battery) while not doing heavier task...u can force your phone to run at a lower clock like 480MHZ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks thats helped
but here's a even stranger thing.
I've got a spare battery for my phone and when i put the other one in the CPU was working normally again, which was odd, so I put the other battery back in and the CPU problem started again.
so as strange as it sounds it looks like one of my batterys seems to be causing this problem :S
You shoud use swap!
You can search on Google how to set up swap ( using software or command )
Set swap up to 500mb, now you can OC at higher frequency
I successed on my GT540. Good luck!
P/S: Maybe you need a fast memory card
Sorry for my Eng
Sorry for my broken english,
OK,now I am facing a huge problem..I can't run any game on my x10,
When i run a game, at start it will run normally, after loading or few seconds then it will crash and causing a boot..i tested on every game eg gameloft,fruit ninja,angry bird except sudoku(maybe it didnt give the gpu too much stress),before it boot the notification light will become purple in colour .. I m on wb tw rom v4.04 custom and doom's kernel v04a and oc to 1267mhz ..I think my gpu is spoilt because I used to reinstall the rom and wipe everythingbut no use..
Anyone can help me and I will very appreciate ..thx
iVolcaNoz said:
Sorry for my broken english,
OK,now I am facing a huge problem..I can't run any game on my x10,
When i run a game, at start it will run normally, after loading or few seconds then it will crash and causing a boot..i tested on every game eg gameloft,fruit ninja,angry bird except sudoku(maybe it didnt give the gpu too much stress),before it boot the notification light will become purple in colour .. I m on wb tw rom v4.04 custom and doom's kernel v04a and oc to 1267mhz ..I think my gpu is spoilt because I used to reinstall the rom and wipe everythingbut no use..
Anyone can help me and I will very appreciate ..thx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might want to start there...
It is not adviced to overclock for prolonged period of time.
Set the max frequency back to 998 and see what happens.
My_Immortal said:
You might want to start there...
It is not adviced to overclock for prolonged period of time.
Set the max frequency back to 998 and see what happens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, but before I used to oc to 1227 for a long period but nth happen
iVolcaNoz said:
Ok, but before I used to oc to 1227 for a long period but nth happen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why they say "don't use for long" and not, for example, "don't use for 3 days"!
There will be a point when your chipset will no longer be able to handle it,
and that point is unique to every phone/user, so better lower or eliminate the overclock altogether.
Dun clock to max,just a slight clock would be good like 10360,or just set to normal clock first
My_Immortal said:
That's why they say "don't use for long" and not, for example, "don't use for 3 days"!
There will be a point when your chipset will no longer be able to handle it,
and that point is unique to every phone/user, so better lower or eliminate the overclock altogether.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fruit ninja works..that means I can only oc when it is needed example gaming and need to back to 998 or below after done?
iVolcaNoz said:
Fruit ninja works..that means I can only oc when it is needed example gaming and need to back to 998 or below after done?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I were you, I wouldn't overclock at all, because reboots are an indication
that your chipset cannot tolerate higher frequencies and chipset death
can have you run to a service center for a new motherboard...
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
My_Immortal said:
If I were you, I wouldn't overclock at all, because reboots are an indication
that your chipset cannot tolerate higher frequencies and chipset death
can have you run to a service center for a new motherboard...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok..I will follow ur advice and thx u r really immortal xD
scoobysnacks said:
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I m shocked when I heard tat..I dun have tat kind of knowledge .and thx for telling me those thing and I will take your advice ..thx
let me know cause i have the same prob after update
Does your phone reboot also when using the Camera continously?? mine does
alamatnitotoy said:
Does your phone reboot also when using the Camera continously?? mine does
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you setting the focus to infinity?
The cam seems to be having problems with this
scoobysnacks said:
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
Haldi4803 said:
Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a battery temperature widget on my homescreens
(from Minimalistic Text app)
and sometimes I notice temperatures as high as 45 Celcius,
but then again, this time of year the weather is at 35-40 Celcius in my country.
The highest I've seen is 54 while I was charging, connected to 3G and
having a half-hour phone call.
Battery does get hot easily, but I am not sure what's the deal with
the motherboard because I haven't had any random reboots for the past few months.
Haldi4803 said:
Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It isn't only the battery hence the burning smell if you remove the battery and smell that area, and all the motherboard problems...
The phone itself runs pretty hot, much hotter than any other I've owned.
I got a second hand perfect condition lg g5 ls988 rather cheap... All seems perfect... New condition pretty much... Unlocked bootloader and installed lineage os and typhoon kernel, did antutu test and scored really well... But I'm having one huge issue..... HEAT....
This thing had climbed into the 80c range for cpu... While gaming on a rather non aggressive app called arcane legends.. And I don't know what is going on.... Even on light use seems to hit 55c+ can barely touch the phone at times...
Even on stock it seems to get very hot... Also I can not use stock kernel because I believe this device suffers screen burn in and I have to use custom kcal settings to prevent this... Which means kernel much support it...
Hopefully I can get some help.. I really like this phone but the heat is insane...
Sent from my LG-RS988 using Tapatalk
Have you sorted out the heat issue yet? It seems to me that the issue is with typhon kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed in the last update to the kernel, which didn't get built for the rs988, or not. Although I never had much of an issue with heat on stock so it may be something else.
Hy guys.
My girfriend bought a beautiful S9 plus and she loves it. It is a great piece of hardware, from design to speed and camera. Just amazing.
Of course i had to test a few things myself (still a rooted note 3 owner). I tried my old "Nemesis", Retroarch, with a couple of games (3rd gen Cave shmups) that put to shame every smartphone Cpu sp far.
The games finally ran full speed, except for moments where a ton of stuff happends on screen and the framerate and audio start going a bit crazy. What is strange though, is the fact that the Cpu never goes beyond 1.7 ghz, never once, which is the little cores max frequency. I'd expect it to reach 2.7 which is the max for the big powerfull ones, to further smoothen the performance.
Is there something i'm missing here? There is no power saving activated and the game center(?forgot the actual.name) settings are set to performance (though from what i understand it only affects display, not Cpu).
...help?
RaduNastase said:
Hy guys.
My girfriend bought a beautiful S9 plus and she loves it. It is a great piece of hardware, from design to speed and camera. Just amazing.
Of course i had to test a few things myself (still a rooted note 3 owner). I tried my old "Nemesis", Retroarch, with a couple of games (3rd gen Cave shmups) that put to shame every smartphone Cpu sp far.
The games finally ran full speed, except for moments where a ton of stuff happends on screen and the framerate and audio start going a bit crazy. What is strange though, is the fact that the Cpu never goes beyond 1.7 ghz, never once, which is the little cores max frequency. I'd expect it to reach 2.7 which is the max for the big powerfull ones, to further smoothen the performance.
Is there something i'm missing here? There is no power saving activated and the game center(?forgot the actual.name) settings are set to performance (though from what i understand it only affects display, not Cpu).
...help?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't gone beyond 1.7ghz since my last reset, I did when I first got the phone but my assumption is that s new kernel was installed that changed the way the CPU ramped up (Exynos btw) to counter the battery life claims. In all honesty from my limited knowledge it's probably the GPU that limits the frame rate but that's only a guess as 8 cores @ 1.7ghz is plenty of processing power.
mtm1401 said:
. In all honesty from my limited knowledge it's probably the GPU that limits the frame rate but that's only a guess as 8 cores @ 1.7ghz is plenty of processing power.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The S9+ is not rooted, so it's on stock kernel.
Also, the emulator (mame) is designed to only use Cpu for 2d games, with Gpu used at minimum.
1.7 is far from enough, especially when it can go up to 2.7 to improve the otherwise non-optimal performance of the games. I'm very curious what's the issue here...
RaduNastase said:
The S9+ is not rooted, so it's on stock kernel.
Also, the emulator (mame) is designed to only use Cpu for 2d games, with Gpu used at minimum.
1.7 is far from enough, especially when it can go up to 2.7 to improve the otherwise non-optimal performance of the games. I'm very curious what's the issue here...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
mtm1401 said:
Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, now i understand. Well, it's very strange and frankly, a bit alarming. Could anyone else with up to date stock software share some numbers as well?
Same.
Same here on G965FXXU2BRG6.
Edit: It seems that CPU Spy doesn't work correctly on the S9. When using CPU-Z and running Geekbench 4, I can clearly see CPUs 4-7 running at 2704 MHz at times.
That's interesting. So my next test will have to involve Cpu-z as a monitoring tool. Thanks for the replies guys.
We need a cristal clear answer on this.
mtm1401 said:
Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
...an error, please remove.
mzsquared said:
Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
God damn it. Haven't got the time to do further testing myself yet, but by the looks of it 1.7 seems to be the max. and not 2.7.
Any rooted phones owners care to share some numbers? Can you lock it to 2.7 like it should?
Are we talking Exynos or Snapdragon here? That'd be a good piece of info while sharing the stats!
Personally i'm talking about exynos, but apparently snapdragon behaves the same.
mzsquared said:
Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Post#9 was about Snapdragon
Has anyone tried hitting the "Performance mode" toggle in the drop down menu? Stupid question, but easily overlooked.
IrishRegent said:
Has anyone tried hitting the "Performance mode" toggle in the drop down menu? Stupid question, but easily overlooked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
RaduNastase said:
Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
bummer.
RaduNastase said:
Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did the same, then I tried in WQHD+ resolution hoping that it may create more demand from CPU/GPU and no, same 1.7. What is the best way to make a complaint about it to Samsung? We bought an 8 cylinder Maserati and after the honeymoon they remotely disabled two because the engine might blow?
mzsquared said:
I did the same, then I tried in WQHD+ resolution hoping that it may create more demand from CPU/GPU and no, same 1.7. What is the best way to make a complaint about it to Samsung? We bought an 8 cylinder Maserati and after the honeymoon they remotely disabled two because the engine might blow?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably the official forums.
It would be great if a rooted user with a Cpu oriented kernel (overclocking, voltage, governor manipulation) would show us that those big cores can, at least when rooted, be used at full potential.
RaduNastase said:
Probably the official forums.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, am gonna register there, see what they have to say about it. That and my other question I'd have: why I received my 'new' S9+ with IMEI SV 07? And when I did IMEI lookup on line, found out that the phone was registered for warranty one month before I ordered it. My email to Customer Service was returned with "Samsung sells only brand new phones". Didn't know that there is no replacement policy at Samsung, you can only return it for refund, it's not a good option for me, because I took that 'bundle deal' and I don't owe the Chromebook anymore, they would subtract some$ from it. Well, according to Samsung, the warranty on my phone runs until October '19, we'll see.