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i am watching the summit and this is what we will get: WP 7.8
live at http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Windows-Phone/Summit
Gggrrr.....
WP7.8 Will have the WP8 experience and new start screen etc
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WP7.8 Will have the WP8 experience and new start screen etc
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at least they said so .... m looking forward to it !
The only thing i want right now is ability to have IM's working in a background If WP 7.8 (or IM developers) gives me that then i'll be happy even without WP8.
Ofcourse, WP 8 sounds really cool but probably i'll get a new phone for it once they come out. Higher screen resolution, more RAM and dual core CPU definitely won't harm
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at least they said so .... m looking forward to it !
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At least they are going to remove the gap on the right side and file the screen with tiles this time rather than wasting the screen space with nothing
It will feel like a new phone with a bigger screen
this is such a fail, MS and nokia totally "backdoored" their customers... how im happy i got rid of my lumia 800...
crnkoj said:
this is such a fail, MS and nokia totally "backdoored" their customers... how im happy i got rid of my lumia 800...
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What do you mean by saying "backdoored"?
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At least they are going to remove the gap on the right side and file the screen with tiles this time rather than wasting the screen space with nothing
It will feel like a new phone with a bigger screen
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indeed the right side can be used...i like my 800 but it needs an update i was hoping they will release the tango today ... might be flashing the CN again
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What do you mean by saying "backdoored"?
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buy it....top tech...blah blah....and at the end "none of the existing devices will get WP8"
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indeed the right side can be used...i like my 800 but it needs an update i was hoping they will release the tango today ... might be flashing the CN again
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I was hoping the update would arrive today too, supposedly bypassing the carriers this time
No idea when it is arriving, I didn't see anything about a time scale on the WP Summit
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this is such a fail, MS and nokia totally "backdoored" their customers... how im happy i got rid of my lumia 800...
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Nobody have ever told that current WP7 devices will get an upgrade to WP8! I'vе been writing here in the forum for moths that there will be no such upgrade but nobody listens! The new WP8 is based on Windows RT, not on WinCE. The new features won't be ported to WP7. I'll be selling my Lumia 800 too very soon but it is not Microsoft's fault that Nokia released its "new" models so late. And if you think for a sec, when WP8 is released near the end of this year it will be nearly an year after the release of the first Lumia phones! One year is more than enough device life if you ask me! Me personally rarely use a device even a full year!
So don't be pissed at Nokia or Microsoft. Nobody stepped on your throat telling you to buy the dying dinosaur from the shelf!
Fail! Fail!
Its good to hear that Microsoft atleast considered WP 7.8 for the current devices...
And guess what? WP8 supports native code apps. WP 7.8 wouldn't.
That means, no guarranteed future app support. Now, that's bad.
Had higher expectations, and this how Microsoft treats us.
OrionBG said:
Nobody have ever told that current WP7 devices will get an upgrade to WP8! I'vе been writing here in the forum for moths that there will be no such upgrade but nobody listens! The new WP8 is based on Windows RT, not on WinCE. The new features won't be ported to WP7. I'll be selling my Lumia 800 too very soon but it is not Microsoft's fault that Nokia released its "new" models so late. And if you think for a sec, when WP8 is released near the end of this year it will be nearly an year after the release of the first Lumia phones! One year is more than enough device life if you ask me! Me personally rarely use a device even a full year!
So don't be pissed at Nokia or Microsoft. Nobody stepped on your throat telling you to buy the dying dinosaur from the shelf!
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Some features will be coming and I'm pretty certain the tile size will be included for sure. Other features are hardware based and can't be ported.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3...8-upgrade-no-windows-phone-8-existing-devices
That's the fragmentation that every WP user bragged not have and it's worse then android because WP8 applications simple wont work in WP7.8 because of a software problem, not for hardware limitations. It's a mess.
I hope i get VoIP support and all native features that don't require hardware since future apps compatibility isn't going to happen.
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Some features will be coming and I'm pretty certain the tile size will be included for sure. Other features are hardware based and can't be ported.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3...8-upgrade-no-windows-phone-8-existing-devices
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WP8 is great...I work for a software development company and we have it for more than 4 months now running on a i5 tablet from Samsung...
7.5 is not a fail either... and i m pretty sure that 7.8 will do very well ...
cheers !
Well, the home experience is what I'm mostly looking forward to have on my Lumia. We're not getting much more than that, but with the current hardware anything more would have been pointless. This is just an appetizer to me tho, gotta start saving money for this fall, it's hard for me to keep a phone for more than 8 months anyway...
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Well, the home experience is what I'm mostly looking forward to have on my Lumia. We're not getting much more than that, but with the current hardware anything more would have been pointless. This is just an appetizer to me tho, gotta start saving money for this fall, it's hard for me to keep a phone for more than 8 months anyway...
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i agree since i've been switching phones often than my socks )
anyways, WP is an OS that we will bring us joy...i am pretty sure !
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Nobody have ever told that current WP7 devices will get an upgrade to WP8! I'vе been writing here in the forum for moths that there will be no such upgrade but nobody listens! The new WP8 is based on Windows RT, not on WinCE. The new features won't be ported to WP7. I'll be selling my Lumia 800 too very soon but it is not Microsoft's fault that Nokia released its "new" models so late. And if you think for a sec, when WP8 is released near the end of this year it will be nearly an year after the release of the first Lumia phones! One year is more than enough device life if you ask me! Me personally rarely use a device even a full year!
So don't be pissed at Nokia or Microsoft. Nobody stepped on your throat telling you to buy the dying dinosaur from the shelf!
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Im not pissed, im disappointed, quite frankly anyone else who has a lumia 900/800 right now can have all the right to be pissed, they trusted nokia to have a good phone with good support and they simply didnt deliver, this way you destroy brand recognition and brand value. It all seems to be the plan of mr Elop to make Nokia worthless so that Miscrosoft can buy it.... Its misuse of brand trust.
About you using your device less than a year, one of two things comes to my mind: 1. you obviously have a lot of money 2. you dont spend your money wisely
And please dont take this as a rant or insult, but most people (especially in todays wicked economy) would prefer to have something they dearly paid for, for more than a year.
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Im not pissed, im disappointed, quite frankly anyone else who has a lumia 900/800 right now can have all the right to be pissed, they trusted nokia to have a good phone with good support and they simply didnt deliver, this way you destroy brand recognition and brand value. It all seems to be the plan of mr Elop to make Nokia worthless so that Miscrosoft can buy it.... Its misuse of brand trust.
About you using your device less than a year, one of two things comes to my mind: 1. you obviously have a lot of money 2. you dont spend your money wisely
And please dont take this as a rant or insult, but most people (especially in todays wicked economy) would prefer to have something they dearly paid for, for more than a year.
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nokia was dead for years and they came back to life because of this WP ... with or without WP8 lumia will be usable for at least another year...same thing happened to devices stuck on Android 2.1, or those not able to use for example Siri .... this is another example of how the software market works together with the hardware producers ... you buy a pc today because of a game and tomorrow comes another game with higher requirements ....
Hello guys , I am a android user and im using the galaxy y .. which has a small screen and low specs.. I wanted to upgrade to a smartphone which will be reliable for basic tasks: Fb / Wikipedia browsing , Whatsapp , Music and Videos.. So i saw the nokia lumia510 and i loved its display.. dispite people saying its specs r slow.. I still wanna knw frm expert windows users, Is it really bad or is the performance decent enuf to run whatsapp and videos?
You can't compare windows phone like android phones by specs.
Windows phone will work more smooth and fluid on any available configuration compared to android because it is much more optimized.
But better try to get Lumia520 which runs WP8 if the price difference isn't too big because Lumia510 really is very old and it won't get any updates in the future and although the OS would run fine, unoptimized apps would lag.
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You can't compare windows phone like android phones by specs.
Windows phone will work more smooth and fluid on any available configuration compared to android because it is much more optimized.
But better try to get Lumia520 which runs WP8 if the price difference isn't too big because Lumia510 really is very old and it won't get any updates in the future and although the OS would run fine, unoptimized apps would lag.
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Hey thanks for your suggestion, I did buy the lumia510 since 520 was not fitting in my budget but well i must say lumia510 is a pretty smooth phone compared to other low end androids so im pretty happy with my lumia510..love d display :laugh:
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Hey thanks for your suggestion, I did buy the lumia510 since 520 was not fitting in my budget but well i must say lumia510 is a pretty smooth phone compared to other low end androids so im pretty happy with my lumia510..love d display :laugh:
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You cant have WP8 on a 510 or any of the x10 models, too bad you didnt go for the 520, I have it for developing apps and its awesome. Got it for free from T-Mobile in my country, im on a $10 a month plan, it was like the cheapest one I just wanted the free phone
Windows Phones vs Android Phones (customize ability)
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You cant have WP8 on a 510 or any of the x10 models, too bad you didnt go for the 520, I have it for developing apps and its awesome. Got it for free from T-Mobile in my country, im on a $10 a month plan, it was like the cheapest one I just wanted the free phone
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I have never used a windows phone and am curious as to the creative aspects.. as in are they customizable with something similar to roms, and can you unlock/root them or some sort of equivalent... I saw a lumia 710 for 30 bucks on craigslist I was thinking of picking up for training purposes however I think it runs 7 not 8 so I dunno I have to post more on here so this is as good a question as any thanks ahead of time
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Bump... Talking about devices...
Are there any foreseeable limitations on the up-and-coming latest and greatest devices? When I bought my galaxy S5, I hadn't anticipated it ever being a developer non friendly device as it is today... Or am I missing something. I'm in at&t network with it... It's expected glitchy and I wanted root & custom Rom, but I guess developers gave up on it...
So now, what are the best options for a promising device?
Nokia Lumia 510
Nokia Lumia 510 is very simple smartphones with unique features. It comes with 800MHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor and 256 MB RAM. It runs on the runs Windows Phone 7.5. On this smartphones you can do various kids of activities such as Facebook, music,net surfing,what apps. It really a good smartphones. Nokia Lumia 510 is amazing smartphones with very comfortable price.
2 different operating systems can not compare my friends , I also want to help you but i cant
no Windows phone
Synide496 said:
Hello guys , I am a android user and im using the galaxy y .. which has a small screen and low specs.. I wanted to upgrade to a smartphone which will be reliable for basic tasks: Fb / Wikipedia browsing , Whatsapp , Music and Videos.. So i saw the nokia lumia510 and i loved its display.. dispite people saying its specs r slow.. I still wanna knw frm expert windows users, Is it really bad or is the performance decent enuf to run whatsapp and videos?
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Of course Android. I would never go for Windows phone ever again
Lumia520 reboot always can't flash help me
I'm seriously considering ordering this phone, the specs are great but what's driving me is better battery life. I've got a Moto G, which is very nice; however, my battery life has never been good. (My first Android phone was an Huawei and I like the brand very much--my little ole Huawei is still running strong and serves as a cordless VOIP phone in the house.) Has Huawei made any announcements about rolling out KitKat to this phone? TIA
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I'm seriously considering ordering this phone, the specs are great but what's driving me is better battery life. I've got a Moto G, which is very nice; however, my battery life has never been good. (My first Android phone was an Huawei and I like the brand very much--my little ole Huawei is still running strong and serves as a cordless VOIP phone in the house.) Has Huawei made any announcements about rolling out KitKat to this phone? TIA
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Huawei Device USA will not give a date because the big boys in China will not allow them to. But I know the Chinese Version of the HAM2 is already on KitKat.
kk isn't a deal breaker for me.
Right now, the Mate2 is performing without issues, lockups etc. Once/if kk is released, I'm going to hold off until reports
come back. I am getting to cranky to deal with bugs.
Thanks for the info. The lack of KitKat isn't a deal breaker for me, I was just wondering. I really want decent battery performance, good specs and a decent price and the HAM2 seems to fit the bill. The build quality of my old Huawei was good and from what I'm reading in reviews, this phone seems well built. I'm just about to pull the trigger on Amazon once I decide on color. (I suspect it will be the black one.)
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Thanks for the info. The lack of KitKat isn't a deal breaker for me, I was just wondering. I really want decent battery performance, good specs and a decent price and the HAM2 seems to fit the bill. The build quality of my old Huawei was good and from what I'm reading in reviews, this phone seems well built. I'm just about to pull the trigger on Amazon once I decide on color. (I suspect it will be the black one.)
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Unless you watch video over LTE 24/7, using it as a phone, web browser etc....I get 2-3 days EASY on one charge. That, and the price are what
sold me.
As elpc has said, there is a KitKat version but it's for the Chinese model at the moment.
When I read the phone reviews on Amazon, one of the reviewers said he was told by Huawei reps that KitKat for the US models would come in either July or August.
I don't know if we'll get it, or when, but I do hope we get L!
There are better chioces than huawei,never huawei products
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There are better chioces than huawei,never huawei products
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Since Huawei is the 3rd largest smartphone maker in the world, why not?
Some friends of mine said you bought a Huawei? Yuck, it's a Chinese phone, they have spyware that sends stuff to China.
I simply answer...what ISN'T made in China, and what company, government DOESN'T spy and send data to someone?
I bought it do to the value, the battery life and the screen. No bloatware, unlocked for $300. Bang for the buck, that's what
I look for.
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Some friends of mine said you bought a Huawei? Yuck, it's a Chinese phone, they have spyware that sends stuff to China.
I simply answer...what ISN'T made in China, and what company, government DOESN'T spy and send data to someone?
I bought it do to the value, the battery life and the screen. No bloatware, unlocked for $300. Bang for the buck, that's what
I look for.
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Exactly this. I'm pretty sure Apple and Google do the same thing. In fact, Apple just admitted to storing data in its Chinese servers. And some guy was arrested for illegal pornography in his Gmail account as well.
Hell, there's the US and German secretaries phone call spying thing too. Everyone spies on everyone nowadays. You can't avoid it.
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abczhou said:
There are better chioces than huawei,never huawei products
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Samsung $700? Battery sucks, went to downtown San Francisco 8am before even 12 from full battery to low battery warning, I returned it the next day it is been to me for a week so battery is well charge up.
HAM2 I tried watching Netflix yesterday just to test the battery over 4g, it sucks that I just got almost 10hrs may be 15mins short before battery is 10% left and it is just $299, did I made the wrong choice?
But if they don't update to KITKAT before September 11 I will consider returning this. Good thing I bought this on amazon, they pay back shipping you can't go wrong on what you buy.
I entered a chat support from Huawei and they told me KitKat was on the way but they coulndt commit to a date...
Aand as for L they toldme they would make an statement when its out :/
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I entered a chat support from Huawei and they told me KitKat was on the way but they coulndt commit to a date...
Aand as for L they toldme they would make an statement when its out :/
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Really hope we get L afterwards. If not, hopefully we'll have custom ROMs by then.
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This is probably the best phone I have ever owned. I too had some friends ask about it judging it before knowing what it was all about, after showing them, I teased them for their overpriced phones with inferior battery life.
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This is probably the best phone I have ever owned. I too had some friends ask about it judging it before knowing what it was all about, after showing them, I teased them for their overpriced phones with inferior battery life.
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Agreed, awesome phone, now with the US release I expect them to sell a lot of their phones in North America. I certainly love mine !!
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Since Huawei is the 3rd largest smartphone maker in the world, why not?
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First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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I'm Chinese too, I didn't know that; I'm sorry about that.
If I knew that I would've picked something else.
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It's funny, I never even gave this phone a thought when I saw the specs, but (now here is the really funny part) after reading reviews of it on the OnePlus One user forum, and the price, I bought one and was really surprised how well it works for having "substandard" specs. It's fast, screen is bright, snappy, no lag, works quite well and that 2-3 day battery is REALLY nice. I could give two hoots if it has the latest greatest OS. JB4.3 is good, not buggy and works. Smartphones are my lifeblood for work and 4 weeks in, this thing has yet to let me down.
I use about 1500-2000 minutes per month on the phone, lots of web use, email, text and photos, and it's great! People are getting hoodwinked by thinking they "have to have" a device with the 2k screens, latest OS to do anything, but all they are doing is wasting money and getting 1/2 a day battery life. Hey, it's your money, but me, personally, I'd rather have some value for my money.
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First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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Which brand is popular there in China?
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Jooosty said:
Which brand is popular there in China?
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there are a few. Xiaomi, coolpad, Lenovo, but to obey an unofficial command from government, all mobilephone based on android remove Google framework and apps in China
Hi to all im planning on getting a new phone and wanted to ask is the lg g5 still worth buying in 2015 thank you
huzi7868 said:
Hi to all im planning on getting a new phone and wanted to ask is the lg g5 still worth buying in 2015 thank you
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Depends on...how much it costs you..
akki7636 said:
Depends on...how much it costs you..
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£409 uk
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£409 uk
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Not a good deal.
I got mine in around 300 usd.
It ll be good if you can wait for oneplus 5
Imo check the new nokia smartphones running android. Not sure if they are available yet though, but they seem very promising. (Bottom line all devices don't differ greatly in their respective price categories, but Nokia is supp. offering regular updates regarding security patches, which is kinda yummy imo)
If you can get it for cheap then maybe. 400 no I wouldn't. If root and rooms your thing then no go. Development dien out Phone has quality issues as well. Like others have said above your better off with onePlus phone.
What do you guys think? Worth the Upgrade from the Mate 10?
http://www.slashleaks.com/l/huawei-mate-30-pro-oficial-promotional-picture
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What do you guys think? Worth the Upgrade from the Mate 10?
http://www.slashleaks.com/l/huawei-mate-30-pro-oficial-promotional-picture
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Not in my time.
Now that they have locked bootloader and all, the fun is over and so I am heading elsewhere.
It's sad.
Great hardware let down locked boot loader and software + support.
Going elsewhere.
Mate 30
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What do you guys think? Worth the Upgrade from the Mate 10?
http://www.slashleaks.com/l/huawei-mate-30-pro-oficial-promotional-picture
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No thanks, I'm going to a different brand. Since Huawei now has a locked bootloader, not Google certified, and will have no service or support (or warranty) it's time to move on. I was considering it for a while but since it has been confirmed that Huawei devices will no longer be able to use Google (play store, Gmail, etc.) It's not worth it.
IMO, kicking out all Google sh!t and leaving the OS core can be only the positive side and big step forward because I use nothing of Google apps.
Nope, simply because it has a notch and curved screen, it ain't my cup of tea, and also if U consider what's going on with Google.
? Miss me with that shet, easily the worst device I've owned so far.