Hi. I had the international version of the Z5C until it recently died on me.
I decided to buy the US version of the Z5C to replace it since it comes with warranty.
Someone on reddit told me that I could flash my Z5C to enable the fingerprint sensor.
I'm new to all this and I was hoping one of you could show me the way to achieve this, which wouldn't leave me with a 2nd brick.
Thanks!
I am not sure if that's possible but if so it would more than likely require you to install stock ROM of different country through flashtool.
I ordered e5823 through Amazon prime in States and it came with sensor working, so it doesn't necessarily mean it won't work. I believe when people say US version they mean carrier locked phones as z5c has only 2 different model numbers as far as I know with all LTE and 3g bands working on either model, refer to GSM arena model comparison for more info.
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I am from Norway and got my Gear S as a gift at the Samsung Developer Conference. It was locked to AT&T. I unlocked mine using cellunlocker.net. I received the network lock code less than an hour after submitting the order and it worked like a charm.
However, here in Norway we have GSM 900/1800 and the AT&T device is only GSM 850/1900 from what I can find on the net. Which matches my end result of not being able to connect to my network even after unlocking.
I should probably have thought of this before spending 29USD on an unlock code, but anything less than Quad-band on a phone just seems so '90s. As I do not have a compatible Samsung Phone either, the device is pretty much useless for me without GSM. I have Sony Z1 Compact (great), iPhone 5s (meh), Lumia 920 and 1020 (great), so buying a new phone is not an option at the moment.
Is the GSM-bands controlled by firmware or are there hardware differences between the US and European versions?
Does anybody know if it could be possible to load a European FW and get GSM 900/1800?
I'm fairly sure that's hardware controlled. Sorry
I also wish these were quadband.
You could try to sell yours on Ebay.com (I see they are currently going above suggested retail price), and buy one in Europe. They are, however, a bit more expensive there, EURO 390 in Germany including tax, for instance, but they also don't have SIM lock there.
jonstenerud said:
I am from Norway and got my Gear S as a gift at the Samsung Developer Conference. It was locked to AT&T. I unlocked mine using cellunlocker.net. I received the network lock code less than an hour after submitting the order and it worked like a charm.
However, here in Norway we have GSM 900/1800 and the AT&T device is only GSM 850/1900 from what I can find on the net. Which matches my end result of not being able to connect to my network even after unlocking.
I should probably have thought of this before spending 29USD on an unlock code, but anything less than Quad-band on a phone just seems so '90s. As I do not have a compatible Samsung Phone either, the device is pretty much useless for me without GSM. I have Sony Z1 Compact (great), iPhone 5s (meh), Lumia 920 and 1020 (great), so buying a new phone is not an option at the moment.
Is the GSM-bands controlled by firmware or are there hardware differences between the US and European versions?
Does anybody know if it could be possible to load a European FW and get GSM 900/1800?
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Have you tried contacting your local Samsung Developers on Google+? Samsung Developers US are very responsive on there.
I can't believe they didn't think about that!
sbrownla said:
Have you tried contacting your local Samsung Developers on Google+? Samsung Developers US are very responsive on there.
I can't believe they didn't think about that!
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Yes, but no luck. Says there are differences in the hardware and that it cannot be changed in software.
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Yes, but no luck. Says there are differences in the hardware and that it cannot be changed in software.
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I mean contact them to find out if they can replace it with one that actually works where you live.
Wonder why att has their own specific version of cam plus (CBG-720). Hope it's just a super-special at&t logo, not something stupid (like restricting device from working on other g5 models)
http://www.lg.com/us/lg-friends/lg-CBG-720.AATTSV-cam-plus
Verizon/sprint/tmobile/us cellular share same model (CBG-700)
http://www.lg.com/us/lg-friends/lg-CBG-700.AVRZSV-cam-plus
Modules are whitelisted on phones - possible for generic module not to work on att's lg g5
(B&O module imported from Europe will not work on USA models)
Hello, found this out the hard way I have the ATT G5 H820 and bought the T-mobile version of the cam plus. It will not even power on after installing the module. Will be returning for correct version.
That makes no sense to me...Why would you, as a company, make carrier versions of hardware accessories? Is there any carrier branding on the CamPlus?
raynan said:
That makes no sense to me...Why would you, as a company, make carrier versions of hardware accessories? Is there any carrier branding on the CamPlus?
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being consumer-friendly is not a trait shared by some carriers/manufacturers
Mojar7070 said:
Hello, found this out the hard way I have the ATT G5 H820 and bought the T-mobile version of the cam plus. It will not even power on after installing the module. Will be returning for correct version.
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when you get an AT&T version, bring it to a t-mobile store and try it on a tmobile display phone.....
my guess is that it won't work either
There are time when a carrier request the manufacturer to make parts or accessories for their branded product only by inserting a simply code only phone with the same code that can recognized it.
This is probably the case.
these request usually will cost alot for the companies like At&t to pay LG.
It's stupid. I bought the wrong one too not even knowing there were different models of the same thing. Bunk.
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Well, so far.. THis been a year that this was discussed. I bought a camera module for my phone without knowing about the difference between At&T and other ones... Now I got a brand new Cam module that doesn`t work in my AT&T LG G5...
Do you guys know if it is possibile to bypass that by software? Or install a different firmware on the phone that will allow me to use this module?>
Thanks in advance
I'm thinking of picking up a Z5 Compact for my switch to AT&T. But which model should I get?
I already know that the E5823 supports cat 6 LTE while the E5803 only supports cat 4 (which I don't care about) and that both models will work in the US, but I'm more curious on the software update front. Since the E5803 is obviously an older batch, will it get updated less frequently and have less dev support than the E5823? Are mods and roms between the two models different?
I'm only asking since I can get the E5803 for $20-$30 cheaper on Amazon and is eligible for Prime shipping, while the E5823 is more expensive and doesn't have Prime shipping. I'd like to go the cheaper and faster route if possible.
The 5823 is the International version, the 5803 is the US version. The US version has the fingerprint sensor disabled. You can flash different firmware to get the fingerprint sensor working, I've read. I bought the International version. Works just fine here in South Carolina.
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bigdfmartin said:
The 5823 is the International version, the 5803 is the US version. The US version has the fingerprint sensor disabled. You can flash different firmware to get the fingerprint sensor working, I've read. I bought the International version. Works just fine here in South Carolina.
dave
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That's weird, the E8503 on Amazon that's cheap claims to be an international version and has no warranty. I'll investigate further. It is tempting to get the US version and enable the fingerprint sensor just for the warranty though. I want a fingerprint sensor, that's the only reason I'm going for the Z5C over something like a Z3 or any other last generation flagship.
I see the listing you're talking about. Judging from the comments and Q&A, it's not really clear which model it is. If the US warranty is important to you, you may need to make sure you can return it if it is the wrong model. From what I've read about Sony service, though (especially here in the US), you're probably gonna be frustrated if you ever need to use it.
I opted for the International version so that the fingerprint sensor would work right out of the box. I've owned several Sony and Sony-Ericcson phones and never had any problems with them. I've rooted and flashed all of them except for my Z5c because it's already very capable unmodded,, the firmware is still current, and I didn't want to lose the DRM keys.
dave
I went for the international the day the US version came out as it was cheaper and had fingerprint scanner. Now that we know the only difference between the two is software you should just get whatever is cheapest.
Hi there guys..
I just saw an offer on GB for the Honor 9 at € 281, which is indeed a great price. It's the International version, they say but there's something weird.. I read here on xda a few people that ordered the International version (don't know where) that should be AL00 but received Asian version, L29.. He had to flash the international rom. It's not that I fear flashing something but I wouldn't like to buy a thing and receive another one..
Anyway, just in case, flashing the International firmware does stop receiving updates, somehow? Until the firmware is stock, unrooted and bootloader untouched it shouldn't be an issue, I guess..
More important: I read that both versions have the same identical hardware so it's natural to think that the LTE 800 MHz is missing from International version, isn't it? Otherwise what's the difference about? Just a firmware? Still it would be weird because if I recall correctly Honor 8 eu version had it (but I maybe be wrong).
Last but not least, from your personal experience, is it a good device to buy for that price? I' not so sure and I would like to wait for something new but the offer is really good considering the original price..
Mmmm it's weird btw.. I just checked on AliExpress for prices comparison and I found a device with Internetional Honor 9 but the codes to pick from are AL00, AL10 or TL01.. so neither one is Internetional version (yeah I could flash as we said)
EDIT: this is the link https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_649021.html at normal price, there's a code for discount (if you need tell me via PM I could share, even if there are only 30 so don't know how much they'll be available). From the latter screenshots in the page it seems it should be STF something, could it be? What's that?
The only color available is the pure black, maybe gray is better as overall looking, isn't it?
EDIT2: I see you have it, STF from your signature
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As I know all models are Chines, I can be wrong but I saw just L09C300/C900. Thid is code for international rom C300/C900 and this AL00... are Chines models so probably if this models have C300... firmwares yes, can be international
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sorry mate I edit my post.. so basically from the link I posted above, the screenshot says STF-L09C432B100 so it should be basically as the one you have.. was your device International when you bought it?
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This is clear European model if cost same price go for it is best phone for value
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I fear this is the International version signature, the European one (where LTE B20 is used if poor 4G signal) is FRD-L09 or L16 (32GB and 64GB).. I'm really tempted but I'm not sure now
EDIT info here (post 4 and so on) https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/how-to/model-stf-l09-t3636884/page3 and here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/help/frd-l19-europe-version-64gb-buy-t3458943
This i my case. I live in France, last month I ordered a Honor 9 black on the website priceminister with good offert, saved around 130€ vs buying here. The seller is from China, so I thought this phone is Chinese version, I prepared myself that I will do "rebrand". I received the phone yesterday. It is written AL00 version on the box, but when I started, surprisingly there is already all Google services, and in the settings, it is L09...version, and it received an update to ...130 immediately after. So, I thought the seller did "rebrand" the phone before. I'm happy with it. Only one minus thing, the charger plug is asian type, not european type, I need an adapter
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This i my case. I live in France, last month I ordered a Honor 9 black on the website priceminister with good offert, saved around 130€ vs buying here. The seller is from China, so I thought this phone is Chinese version, I prepared myself that I will do "rebrand". I received the phone yesterday. It is written AL00 version on the box, but when I started, surprisingly there is already all Google services, and in the settings, it is L09...version, and it received an update to ...130 immediately after. So, I thought the seller did "rebrand" the phone before. I'm happy with it. Only one minus thing, the charger plug is asian type, not european type, I need an adapter
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That's the same case with me. Though I don't live in Europe and honor 9 is not officially available but there are grey importers that bring in the phone from China and rebrand it. Luckily the seller did provide an adapter.
Problem is not the model strictly but the fact that only European models have band 20 (800 MHz) for LTE.. (so FRD-etc) ?
What are the differences between Sony Japanese and international phones? Are there any hardware changes apart from the software changes.Why are the Japanese ones so cheap?
There are differents i think and cheap ? Because Sony is made in Japan.
But if you take two of the same type, you can see that the Japanese phone heats up and the signal decreases. I observed it closely with several models. eg xperia 1,xz3,xperia 1iii
They're not being shipped out of the country lol
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
They're not being shipped out of the country lol
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Only Japanese ones come into my country
How much do you want?
Differences:
1.All JP mdel support "Felica" payment(Some NFC-based stuff requires specific hardware that support it) but global model don't have these so it can't be enabled even with JP firmware flashed.
2.If you mean au/docomo/softbank version(like SO-xxx or SOV-xxx), you might not able to use it THEORETICALLY ouside Japan or with other carrier, the bootloader is not unlockable in these model as well.
3.These model mentioned in (2) only have single SIM slots and lower RAM/storage in past days, not sure if it's the same for recent model.
Why it's cheap:
SONY is pushing carrier free smartphone forward in Japan, you can purchase the carrier free model now, but I think the model you mentioned most likely to be the carrier specific model, and that's why it's cheap, I guess.
Kihara777 said:
Differences:
1.All JP mdel support "Felica" payment(Some NFC-based stuff requires specific hardware that support it) but global model don't have these so it can't be enabled even with JP firmware flashed.
2.If you mean au/docomo/softbank version(like SO-xxx or SOV-xxx), you might not able to use it THEORETICALLY ouside Japan or with other carrier, the bootloader is not unlockable in these model as well.
3.These model mentioned in (2) only have single SIM slots and lower RAM/storage in past days, not sure if it's the same for recent model.
Whay it's cheap:
SONY is pushing carrier free smartphone forward in Japan, you can purchase the carrier free model now, but I think the model you mentioned most likely to be the carrier specific model, and that's why it's cheap, I guess.
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Bootloader can be unlocked (with fee)