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So far, only xboarder is really working on this (with some possible help but not posted), and he does not have a phone. Appears someone reneged on a deal.
When the MT4G and G2X came out, there were a lot that jumped in - what is the issue here?
I don't think you know but the device dropped on 10/17 i'm pretty sure & alot of people are viewing thread's just not as much developers , there are about 2 developers here now .
Developers are having hard time to decide which device should they buy..
they got multiple choices now...
Samsung Galaxy 2
Samsung Nexus 2
Htc Amaze
Plus all the devices are expensive to its gone he hard for them to get all....
Same , i just bought the amaze as a temperary , once the Galaxy Nexus come's out i'm purchasing that . The SGS2 has a terrible screen .
ikm19 said:
Developers are having hard time to decide which device should they buy..
they got multiple choices now...
Samsung Galaxy 2
Samsung Nexus 2
Htc Amaze
Plus all the devices are expensive to its gone he hard for them to get all....
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Team Whiskey will be on board soon--the phone is VERY new and we need to give people some time to buy the phones before they can start cooking.
Nevermind that the bootloader / s-on is still an issue...
Revolution said:
Same , i just bought the amaze as a temporary , once the Galaxy Nexus come's out i'm purchasing that . The SGS2 has a terrible screen .
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The nexus will only come out on Verizon for the foreseeable future - and switching carries for the phone of the moment is ------.
As for Samsung, I have only had bad experiences with their software/policies - so not going there anytime soon. LG for same reason is also an issue.
How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
LOL
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How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
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that's what you think , it might be coming to sprint & t-mobile & at&t also , it had it on the carrier list then they took the page down
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The nexus will only come out on Verizon for the foreseeable future - and switching carries for the phone of the moment is ------.
As for Samsung, I have only had bad experiences with their software/policies - so not going there anytime soon. LG for same reason is also an issue.
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How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
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Wasn't necessary for those - why here - you missed the point?
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Wasn't necessary for those - why here - you missed the point?
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I made my point. Simply put there are few developers because there are few developers with the phone. I'm a bit sarcastic at times.
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I made my point. Simply put there are few developers because there are few developers with the phone. I'm a bit sarcastic at times.
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The point was - is there some consensus that this phone is not of interest for some reason? I am in the remorse period and so not want to stick with a no-interest phone.
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The point was - is there some consensus that this phone is not of interest for some reason? I am in the remorse period and so not want to stick with a no-interest phone.
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There sure is. It's expensive as hell! How many other phones are out now and how many are on the horizon? From a developers perspective they have a lot to chose from. Odds are slim that we'll get dozens of developers that are going to get this device immediately after it's release. We might get one or two at first and that's about all we have. For f#@k sake the main developer doesn't even have the damn phone! Give it time or return it. It's up to you. I am sticking with it because I see the potential and I believe that development will open up in the near future.
Examples:
MT3G didn't start getting support for about a week after Cyanogen got it.
MT3G 1.2 didn't start getting support for MONTHS because of driver conflicts and the lack to crack the bootloader (which still hasn't been done).
Vibrant... still doesn't have a stable CM rom release and it's been out for over a year.
These are just devices that I know about for certain. I'm sure there are many more.
So we've had the phone for less than a month and people are getting impatient? Why? Did you think that we'll have root BEFORE the phone was released? Just be patient. It's very unlikely that this will be the only phone that isn't going to have ICS, CM7/CM9, etc.
Anyone would like me around?
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Anyone would like me around?
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If you can help, sure. Do you have the phone yet?
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If you can help, sure. Do you have the phone yet?
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No i don't. And im kind of broke but would love to bring >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235582
To this phone. If anyone could help me get the phone since i have no job.
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No i don't. And im kind of broke but would love to bring >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235582
To this phone. If anyone could help me get the phone since i have no job.
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Looks nice!
Start cracking on it and you'll have testers before you know it!
Guess I'll join the blind dev party too
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Guess I'll join the blind dev party too
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i guess we will. Unless the users help me get one of this beautys..
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397729,00.asp
Essentially saying that it's pretty much dead already.
I never bought the hype around it. Unless Google lays down the law..they will always half ass give updates.
They don't make money upgrading existing devices when they can just crank out new devices with minimal upgrades.
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Yeah I'm surprised they even bothered agreeing to such an 'alliance' when carriers would have to sacrifice their bloatware and faster phone turnover. On the plus side it seems like HTC will be focusing more on quality over quantity. A few mouths back there was an article on them using better camera hardware, another article discussed better sound I believe, and last week I read how they are slimming down the number of devices so they can concentrate more on a smaller lineup.
That being said I would like to see a pure Google phone from HTC/Sprint. Sitting around waiting for them to release OS updates is a joke, not to mention the hoops devs jump through in order to bring us ROMS.
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Yeah I'm surprised they even bothered agreeing to such an 'alliance' when carriers would have to sacrifice their bloatware and faster phone turnover. On the plus side it seems like HTC will be focusing more on quality over quantity. A few mouths back there was an article on them using better camera hardware, another article discussed better sound I believe, and last week I read how they are slimming down the number of devices so they can concentrate more on a smaller lineup.
That being said I would like to see a pure Google phone from HTC/Sprint. Sitting around waiting for them to release OS updates is a joke, not to mention the hoops devs jump through in order to bring us ROMS.
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I'm a huge fan of HTC and Sense, I just don't see HTC making a "Google Phone" with Sense. It'll be another Nexus One.
Truth of the matter is Google can't force OEMs and Carriers to update older devices to whatever is the latest and greatest.
OEMs are not compensated for their add ins (TouchWiz, Sense, etc). If there was some direct compensation by Google they would feel obligated to bring out timely updates.
As some of you know, the OEMs do this to differentiate themselves from the android pack.
Also from a marketing standpoint, it hurts sales if their older models had the newest OS. There would be no incentive to upgrade your handset if it runs everything you already have.
Fragmentation is here to stay unless Google makes OEMs release two different updates for each phone. One with vanilla (working drivers etc) and one with the add-ins.
Zabalba said:
Truth of the matter is Google can't force OEMs and Carriers to update older devices to whatever is the latest and greatest.
OEMs are not compensated for their add ins (TouchWiz, Sense, etc). If there was some direct compensation by Google they would feel obligated to bring out timely updates.
As some of you know, the OEMs do this to differentiate themselves from the android pack.
Also from a marketing standpoint, it hurts sales if their older models had the newest OS. There would be no incentive to upgrade your handset if it runs everything you already have.
Fragmentation is here to stay unless Google makes OEMs release two different updates for each phone. One with vanilla (working drivers etc) and one with the add-ins.
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+1.
This is why I love teams like CM who create AOSP roms from source...
Android being so "open" is actually why everything is so fragmented. It won't change...it may even get worse as companies continue tap-dance around it and consumers get tired of asking why. Eventually we'll just accept it.
Sadly, if you want all the updates then you'll have to move away from android.
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+1.
This is why I love teams like CM who create AOSP roms from source...
Android being so "open" is actually why everything is so fragmented. It won't change...it may even get worse as companies continue tap-dance around it and consumers get tired of asking why. Eventually we'll just accept it.
Sadly, if you want all the updates then you'll have to move away from android.
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Or buy a Nexus (just bought my first one)
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Or buy a Nexus (just bought my first one)
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No offense, but, I hate when people say this..
My options of getting a Nexus
1. Leave Sprint and buy a Galaxy Nexus, Can't and won't do it..especially for a craphole like Verizon.
2. Buy a terribly dated Nexus S that was getting old when Sprint first started selling it. No thank you..
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No offense, but, I hate when people say this..
My options of getting a Nexus
1. Leave Sprint and buy a Galaxy Nexus, Can't and won't do it..especially for a craphole like Verizon.
2. Buy a terribly dated Nexus S that was getting old when Sprint first started selling it. No thank you..
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I was just throwing it out there, as that's the only official method of getting an Android phone that gets immediate updates.
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I was just throwing it out there, as that's the only official method of getting an Android phone that gets immediate updates.
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Yea I know man, I really wasn't trying to be a jackwod about it either.
The whole deal is just an unfortunate circumstance that comes with being an Android owner.
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No offense, but, I hate when people say this..
My options of getting a Nexus
1. Leave Sprint and buy a Galaxy Nexus, Can't and won't do it..especially for a craphole like Verizon.
2. Buy a terribly dated Nexus S that was getting old when Sprint first started selling it. No thank you..
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Could also get a GSM Nexus and T-mobile or At&t...
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Could also get a GSM Nexus and T-mobile or At&t...
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Which still falls under option 1.
I happen to be under contract and overall happy with what I get from Sprint. Never any nickel and dime surprises on my bill that I got relentlessly from AT&T and Verizon.
We are basically stuck, but it is what it is. Money makes the world go'round and we should be happy we get updates at all I guess..
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Yea I know man, I really wasn't trying to be a jackwod about it either.
The whole deal is just an unfortunate circumstance that comes with being an Android owner.
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Very true. I'd rather be in this situation than be in the iTunes world, that's for sure.
I personally think that CyanogenMod should release their own line of phones.
Why wait and hope for someone to make exactly what we all really want? Just build it.
I do think I would honestly move ASAP to any carrier that allowed a such a phone on their network.
I can only imagine all the hurdles to get over to make it happen, but, wouldn't it be sweet??
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I personally think that CyanogenMod should release their own line of phones.
Why wait and hope for someone to make exactly what we all really want? Just build it.
I do think I would honestly move ASAP to any carrier that allowed a such a phone on their network.
I can only imagine all the hurdles to get over to make it happen, but, wouldn't it be sweet??
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I hope this never happens. Cyanogen would just become another OEM, and would need to make decisions about what phones to upgrade, when to upgrade those phones, and which ones to leave behind. Plus, Cyanogen also needs dev support from members of each type of phone they support. So, if a dev goes to a different phone, the support for that phone will either need to be transferred to another dev, or support may be dropped. Right now, the cyanogen team is on top of the world. I want them to stay there.
What I would like is for manufacturers like motorola and htc to treat their boot loaders more like Samsung, and LG. They don't need to be encrypted.
By now you guys may have heard of the latest news regarding Samsung's unwillingness to release documentation about their Exynos chip based devices. Codeworkx and Entropy have been trying for quite some time now but Samsung has responded in a somewhat optimistic fashion. The story is in the portal if you haven't seen it yet.
I'm posting this here so we can get as many people as possible to contact Samsung via all the social media avenues we have(twitter,Facebook,google+, etc). Lets tell them what we want and the possibility that we may go with another manufacturer for our next device(I.e LG Nexus device, hopefully open source).
I would implore users to follow @Entropy512 and @codeworkx on twitter to join the conversation
Portal link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-aware-of-exynos-documentation-issue/#disqus_thread
Petition thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
Codeworkx comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32576852&postcount=17071
More: http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/10...ver-missing-exynos-docs/#.UHVMN3qlP4Q.twitter
Spread the word to your friends in other device forums, etc to join the fight!
COME ON, SAMSUNG!!!!!
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By now you guys may have heard of the latest news regarding Samsung's unwillingness to release documentation about their Exynos chip based devices. Codeworkx and Entropy have been trying for quite some time now but Samsung has responded in a somewhat optimistic fashion. The story is in the portal if you haven't seen it yet.
I'm posting this here so we can get as many people as possible to contact Samsung via all the social media avenues we have(twitter,Facebook,google+, etc). Lets tell them what we want and the possibility that we may go with another manufacturer for our next device(I.e LG Nexus device, hopefully open source).
I would implore users to follow @Entropy512 and @codeworkx on twitter to join the conversation
Portal link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-aware-of-exynos-documentation-issue/#disqus_thread
Petition thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
Codeworkx comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32576852&postcount=17071
COME ON, SAMSUNG!!!!!
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http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-hears-exynos-community-documentation-concerns
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Also https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/255733883449004032
This thing is growing to a serious amount right now and I like it
There are a growing amount of threads about the source code issue:
Note N7000:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32622901#post32622901
Galaxy SII I9100:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929188
The only lesson I've taken away from owning a captivate and gs2 since day 1 of each release is that if you don't want to be disappointed, nexus line is the way to go.
I'll get the next nexus and wash my hands of this sordid galaxy business.
If it's LG, so be it. Samsung makes great hardware but I feel like they string us along on the support front.
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The only lesson I've taken away from owning a captivate and gs2 since day 1 of each release is that if you don't want to be disappointed, nexus line is the way to go.
I'll get the next nexus and wash my hands of this sordid galaxy business.
If it's LG, so be it. Samsung makes great hardware but I feel like they string us along on the support front.
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Even if it is lg Google should solve the horrid software updates
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Nope. I'll still buy Samsung devices. They have the best hardware and design IMO, and I actually like Touchwiz.
i'm pretty phone-agnostic. but i'll avoid HTC and Moto like the plague because of actual hardware
will give up all the exynos produce.... too buggy with developer support
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will give up all the exynos produce.... too buggy with developer support
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huh?
I voted for YES to add some pressure. Actually, im enjoying my phone, but the experience would be even better if we had proper Exynos Documentation.
djluis48 said:
I voted for YES to add some pressure. Actually, im enjoying my phone, but the experience would be even better if we had proper Exynos Documentation.
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As am I, but Samsung needs to start giving it up. And look at how much emphasis they've placed on the whole emmc brickbug issue. They have great design and hardware elements, but if there are less devs to support the continuity and customization of these Samsung devices, then it makes all the more sense for me to jump ship. I don't like the other manufacturers, but if they are more supportive of developers in terms of code release, etc. then that's where i'll be heading. Or I might just buy a Nexus device. Samsung needs to stop being so darn stingy.
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As am I, but Samsung needs to start giving it up.
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Samsung doesn't NEED to do anything... them providing anything more than the product itself (and warranty support) is going above and beyond.
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Samsung doesn't NEED to do anything... them providing anything more than the product itself (and warranty support) is going above and beyond.
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They need to do it if they want to keep sales where they're at now.
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They need to do it if they want to keep sales where they're at now.
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Agree with this. People are becoming more tech savvy each day, and even my dad wants ICS/JB on his phone. He is 50, but he readed on the net about the update, saw some videos and know he is looking to buy a new phone shipped with ICS that will receive the update to JB. I told him that he should buy a phone with good dev support in case he decides to root and flash rom (had to explain what that was, but he got it pretty fast). He agreed
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Agree with this. People are becoming more tech savvy each day, and even my dad wants ICS/JB on his phone. He is 50, but he readed on the net about the update, saw some videos and know he is looking to buy a new phone shipped with ICS that will receive the update to JB. I told him that he should buy a phone with good dev support in case he decides to root and flash rom (had to explain what that was, but he got it pretty fast). He agreed
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So true. One of my co-workers was a staunch Blackberry fan; when his phone tanked and he went back to our telecoms provider (the S3 had just been released), he convinced them to upgrade him to an S3 instead of replacing the dead BB with another one. Now he's complaining about the JB update taking so long, etc. , and he can't wait for his warranty to run out so he can root... lol
Even my friends who mostly go for iPhones where I am (so many of them it's ridiculous) are on average more tech savvy than I usually think, but the people with Android phones more often want to learn about rooting and roming and they come to me for that and I always lead them here. So it isn't just the tech geeks now.
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They need to do it if they want to keep sales where they're at now.
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thats the thing... they don't NEED to do anything but provide the hardware and warranty. it doesn't matter to them, as a large corporation, if people mod the phones or not. people will still buy the hardware.
the relatively few of us that want the full support are nowhere near the amount of people that just don't care... which is exactly why (it makes me feel dirty saying it) apple can get away with phones that are nothing more than functioning paperweights compared to what we do with out phones. the masses dictate the sales, not us as a small group (in comparison).
samsung will just come out with a better version of TW to try and get people to not want full support, thats a better business model for them when you think about their users as a whole.
it's business 101, do whats best for the masses, not the few.
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it's business 101, do whats best for the masses, not the few.
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I would say its "Marketing 101", and the term you might be looking for is Niche Market.
Wikipedia said:
A niche market is the subset of the market on which a specific product is focusing. So the market niche defines the specific product features aimed at satisfying specific market needs, as well as the price range, production quality and the demographics that is intended to impact.
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Doesn't matter which business model they follow, it isn't hard to publish documentation. We aren't asking them to dev for us, just release the damn information so our devs can do what they do easier and better!
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Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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Here's the link for more information! CONGRATS HUAWEI!!!
http://bit.ly/1HuK1jc
thanks
thanks for posting the link, as you can see from my number of post i am unable to do so at this time
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Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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http://blog.gethuawei.com/huawei-device-pleased-announce-android-lollipop/ there ya go
I kind of thought that this would happen. I mean, this is their (Huawei's) first venture into the U.S. phone market. They could screw over their entire fan base, or just update the phone. They made the right move.
I wonder just how fugly Huawei L will be...
I'll believe it when I see it.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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They could be pulling our leg, but you never know. It is still a good phone without the update.
elpcmaster said:
They could be pulling our leg, but you never know. It is still a good phone without the update.
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In this case, I'm less concerned about the phone being good without the update (it is) as I am about whether I should believe any announcement Huawei makes. Further, did they actually learn anything, or is it always going to take public pressure for them to do what they promise in the future? I've already purchased this phone, but their actions for the next year or so will dictate whether I purchase another Huawei product.
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In this case, I'm less concerned about the phone being good without the update (it is) as I am about whether I should believe any announcement Huawei makes. Further, did they actually learn anything, or is it always going to take public pressure for them to do what they promise in the future? I've already purchased this phone, but their actions for the next year or so will dictate whether I purchase another Huawei product.
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I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself and I own a Huawei Ascend Mate 2 as well. Its a nice phablet, but its only a 4 start $300 phablet with the Android updates, otherwise its really not worth it to me. Hopefully Huawei does update the HAM2 to Android 5.0.
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I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself and I own a Huawei Ascend Mate 2 as well. Its a nice phablet, but its only a 4 start $300 phablet with the Android updates, otherwise its really not worth it to me. Hopefully Huawei does update the HAM2 to Android 5.0.
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I am not holding my breath. So many companies have promised vapourware for my earlier phones. It is just not worth it for them to update any phone. Why update when they could announce a new model? Phone turnover is the money maker for them. Hell I paid $199 for a unlocked phone that rocks, yes it has a two year old os, but it is stable, great battery, 4g LTE , lots of memory etc. I will get my moneys worth out of it. Hell I paid more for a Motorolattriupmh and used it till it died. One happy mate2 owner update or no!
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I am not holding my breath. So many companies have promised vapourware for my earlier phones. It is just not worth it for them to update any phone. Why update when they could announce a new model? Phone turnover is the money maker for them. Hell I paid $199 for a unlocked phone that rocks, yes it has a two year old os, but it is stable, great battery, 4g LTE , lots of memory etc. I will get my moneys worth out of it. Hell I paid more for a Motorolattriupmh and used it till it died. One happy mate2 owner update or no!
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The thing is, those other companies are probably bigger, are they not? They have more money for advertising etc., so they can rely on pumping out new phones. But Huawei doesn't have the reputation to do that, at least not in the US.
And if they change their minds about this update, they're going to get so much backlash AGAIN. I don't think they would want that.
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The thing is, those other companies are probably bigger, are they not? They have more money for advertising etc., so they can rely on pumping out new phones. But Huawei doesn't have the reputation to do that, at least not in the US.
And if they change their minds about this update, they're going to get so much backlash AGAIN. I don't think they would want that.
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Well from what I understand Huawei in China bigger than Samsung just not in USA , like someone else posted, be careful what you wish for, new version of any software is bound to be bug laden! I too would love the upgrade but...
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Well from what I understand Huawei in China bigger than Samsung just not in USA , like someone else posted, be careful what you wish for, new version of any software is bound to be bug laden! I too would love the upgrade but...
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I, for one, will let others be the early adopters of this upgrade, when and if it becomes available! If, after a few weeks, it seems stable and reliable, I might try it.
Won't really matter to me one bit. If it never gets an update, I'm keeping it.
4.3 is flat stable, and I'll take that over the newest OS any day.
I'm sure 5.0 will do nothing but improve the HAM2, but, I'm sure it will have to
be patched a few times to work out the inevitable bugs. Bless the ones that will
jump at the alpha, beta versions, leaks etc...but once it is released, I'll let you early
adopters play with it. This thing is my work device away from the office, and I don't
have time for FC's & reboots.
There outta be some kind of medal for you guys that flash the newest OS... :good:
I know some of you don't care if you're still using froyo, but...
JB isn't terribly efficient or stable. It's really one of the more bloated releases out there.
The changes implemented in KK really can make our great battery life even better and bring RAM utilization down, and implementing the ART run-time for Lollipop will make apps run faster (as much as 4x faster). Done.
We're getting a lot more than a fancy interface here.
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JB isn't terribly efficient or stable. It's really one of the more bloated releases out there.
The changes implemented in KK really can make our great battery life even better and bring RAM utilization down, and implementing the ART run-time for Lollipop will make apps run faster (as much as 4x faster). Done.
We're getting a lot more than a fancy interface here.
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Theoretically, everything you say is correct, and if it turns out to work that way in reality, I'll welcome the upgrade, when and if it comes. But I've been burned in the past by upgrades, so I'll be very happy to hold back while you go first and find out if there are any nasty surprises lurking behind that fancy interface.
I like what I've seen of Lollipop so far, but if it doesn't work well on this phone, I'll be perfectly content to stick with JellyBean and have a phone that actually works.
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Hey all new user here.
I am thinking about picking up the Huawei Ascend Mate 2 on Friday. But I to am concerned about if we will actually see the 5.0 (or subsequent updates). It seems that there is a lack of CyanogenMod support for this device and or custom roms. What do you guys think? If we don't see the 5.0 update what do you think the availability of CM12 for this device will be?
Just trying to determine how big a gamble I am taking by grabbing this in regards to future support. Let me know your thoughts
plummerdc said:
Hey all new user here.
I am thinking about picking up the Huawei Ascend Mate 2 on Friday. But I to am concerned about if we will actually see the 5.0 (or subsequent updates). It seems that there is a lack of CyanogenMod support for this device and or custom roms. What do you guys think? If we don't see the 5.0 update what do you think the availability of CM12 for this device will be?
Just trying to determine how big a gamble I am taking by grabbing this in regards to future support. Let me know your thoughts
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If you want a device that WORKS, is STABLE, has an incredible battery life, then get the Mate2. If it never gets an update, it won't bother me.
For my use, unless a software program gets updated that will not work with the Mate2 as it stands now, or, adds features that I would use,
I'm quite happy with the performance as it stands now.
If you are of the type, that craves the latest OS, or hardware, then the Mate7 might be a better option, or, the OnePlus One, which is similar
in price.
p51d007 said:
If you want a device that WORKS, is STABLE, has an incredible battery life, then get the Mate2. If it never gets an update, it won't bother me.
For my use, unless a software program gets updated that will not work with the Mate2 as it stands now, or, adds features that I would use,
I'm quite happy with the performance as it stands now.
If you are of the type, that craves the latest OS, or hardware, then the Mate7 might be a better option, or, the OnePlus One, which is similar
in price.
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Thanks p51d007. I don't necessarily need the latest OS. but I also don't want to miss out on new features being added to new versions of Android. But I think I am gonna go ahead and pick one up! thanks for the feedback
I just got done reading the 1+1 vs HAM2 and it confirmed that the screen size and resolution and specs is solid deal with this phone. I am coming from a SGH-i727.
But I am still worried about the longevity of the HAM2 and it's community. I fear we won't get any roms or only a few will come and that will be it and then it will die off. Am I wrong for believing this? It's been almost a year since this device was release and Huawei hasn't release anything and we only have one really good developer working on Kitkat, good bless you. But other than that, that's it.
Carrier wise, I don't see much for Byo Wireless and this device, but I assume it will work because they are based on verizon's network and that's supported with them. I am currently on At&t but I will probably be leaving for the above mentioned carrier. Has anyone used them before with this phone?
The large screen, unlocked phone, and a great community with lots of roms is a big deal to me. Is the HAM2 the right choice for me? Thanks for all future replies.
I own both 1+1 64 GB and HAM MT2L03. Both the devices are fabulous in their class and honestly I will not be able to pick one over the other.
For battery life, HAM beats OPO hands down. So if that is important, go for it.
On all other areas they are close contenders. I have the same apps loaded on both and they run as well as each other. Of course. Opo has more ram and a faster CPU.
The stock email app on HAM is very basic. OPO has the kitkat version which supports swipe to delete etc. and I prefer that version.
Other than the stock email app downside, HAM has upsides in terms of great power mgmt app built in and phone cache cleaner etc. that are so best in class.
I find these more important than the Android version on HAM. So while it would be nice to get lollipop sometime, the phone is very much functional without it. Go ahead and get one!
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Thank you for taking the time to reply to my thread. I am just worried we won't get any custom roms at all, but dang, HAM2 seems so amazing. The screen size alone is one of the best features of this extremely mid-range phone. The battery life is really nice as well. This means a lot coming from someone that owns GS2, which eats up batteries for snacks.
Where would you recommend getting one? I think, Amazon is the best best. I haven't read great things about WalMarts' or Targets' cheaper version.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Mate-Factory-Unlocked-Black/dp/B00JPIAGW0/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t
We've got a few developers working on bringing KK and L to our phone. Huawei has said we will get a Huawei version of Lollipop, though that is still yet to come. If it ever will. We also have another developer who brought TWRP to our phone, and our phone is even officially supported by them.
It's not much, but it's still much better than where we were a few months ago. It can only get better. :good:
ScoobSTi said:
We've got a few developers working on bringing KK and L to our phone. Huawei has said we will get a Huawei version of Lollipop, though that is still yet to come. If it ever will. We also have another developer who brought TWRP to our phone, and our phone is even officially supported by them.
It's not much, but it's still much better than where we were a few months ago. It can only get better. :good:
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I talked to one of Huawei's customer care workers yesterday about the release date for Lollipop update. As usual he didn't commit himself. He said first half of 2015! At least they haven't reneged on their promise.
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I talked to one of Huawei's customer care workers yesterday about the release date for Lollipop update. As usual he didn't commit himself. He said first half of 2015! At least they haven't reneged on their promise.
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Well we're already almost halfway through the "first half of 2015". Hopefully we get some news soon.
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I have already bought the phone and a case, because of everyone's great advice. I may get another cxase though. But I have no faith in Huawei's support team getting us our updates. We were suppose to get KK and that never came even though they made the promise when the phone was release. Our awesome devs will come through though! Do you have their G+ or other social media outlets?
We should pool together to support their time and effort. We could do this by a new thread and gathering important information and support for them and linking to their paypale. I believe this within the forum's rules as individuals can leave a donate link at the end of their postings. It will help out the whole Ham2 community. What is everyone's thoughts on this idea?
lowao said:
We should pool together to support their time and effort. We could do this by a new thread and gathering important information and support for them and linking to their paypal. I believe this within the forum's rules as individuals can leave a donate link at the end of their postings. It will help out the whole Ham2 community. What is everyone's thoughts on this idea?
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This is the developer's G+ page [https://plus.google.com/app/basic/+TomMarshall/]. He has explicitly stated that his work is courtesy of cyanogen, so he doesn't take donations.
medwatt said:
This is the developer's G+ page [https://plus.google.com/app/basic/+TomMarshall/]. He has explicitly stated that his work is courtesy of cyanogen, so he doesn't take donations.
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I wanted to donate Google Play credit or something like that but it turns out they don't do that.
He deserves it though! Throw us amazon wish page or something similar. Haha! Without this development, our devices might be, and probably will be left behind!
Well to be frank I would have a lot of fun developing for this phone but I haven't found a hack successful at unlocking the bootloader for this device and support from Huawei has been an epic fail so my wife and daughter uses it more than I do :-/
Well bear in mind that it's still the Spring Festival over in China now. I wouldn't expect much until that's over. Try getting the boot unlock code after that and you might have better luck!
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