Hi everyone
I just have a few questions that I hope someone would be able to answer about the LG g5. I have had it a while now. H850, I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted and am enjoying it. I have made a backup of all system apps and other bloatware with titanium backup, and went ahead and removed some. However, I cannot get titanium backup to restore the apk - I have tried flashing the update.zip, changing app installation mode and SELINEX mode changer.
I have also had problems with updating SU binaries
My questions are these:
I still have encryption on when I boot into recovery, would this have an affect on restore backups from Titanium backup and/or installing SU binarys. If so (and I do not use the fingerprint scanner) can I turn of encryption as mentioned in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/official-european-lg-g5-h850-bootloader-t3363040
I have also now lost the Titanium backups and so need to restore some of the stock, system apps. I assume I can just go ahead, boot into recovery and flash the stock rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/stock-h850-10c-eu-kdz-flashable-zips-t3369794), format to remove encryption (if needed) root and be back to stock?
Thanks
Just to let anyone know, titanium backup and superuser both work flawlessly after ' encryption for system. I simply did this by formatting in twrp.
megatron_lives said:
Just to let anyone know, titanium backup and superuser both work flawlessly after ' encryption for system. I simply did this by formatting in twrp.
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Given that so many of us don't even have root, your question feels sort of like a "first-world problem." :laugh: :laugh:
Glad you got it fixed up though.
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Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium would be used when you want to backup all of your apps+data, Twrp would be used when you want to back up EVERYTHING apps, messages, pics(on internal sd), basically everything lol. As for verizon sending a ota, I think it's highly unlikely that they can push a ota to our phones now I think the bootloader unlocking and rooting broke all of that. Especially if you run a custom Rom.
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JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium is backing up apps. So lets say you use CleanROM and you want to flash to a newer version cleanly. Use titanium to back up the apps and you will be able to restore them easily on the new rom.
Backing up via TWRP basically means you are backing up EVERYTHING in the rom. So lets use the previous example, uograding from one rom to another. You do a twrp back up and begin to flash the new rom. If anything screws up, you could just restore the twrp back up and everything would go back to normal, back exactly to how your phone was when you made the backup.
Edit: basically a back up in recovery is creating a safe point to come back to if anything goes wrong EVER with your device. There are things that this typenof back up cannot undo however.
Titanium is for apps and that's it. It helps free up space as well as making backups for apps incase on of your apps screws up.
EDIT 2: next time post this type of thing in Q&A and not in general
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Titanium Backup - Used to back up all of your apps and their data
TWRP - Used to back up the ENTIRE system. Meaning, if anything goes wrong, you can restore a past "save" of your system before the problem.
You can think of it as Titanium Backup would be like copying a MS Word document onto a flash drive and TWRP would be like taking a copy of your entire hard drive.
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium backup: for backing up apks and their datas, mms and calling history, bookmarks, alarm and wifi settings....i think that's about it. Because your apks keep updating every few days, you should make this backup right before you flash a new rom. Once you retrieve, you don't have to keep this too long.
TWRP backup(aka nandroid): this is just like a saved point when you play a video game. sometimes when you download something, it can alternate other settings and create a mess.....which then may cause your rom to malfunction. At this time, you can flash your nandroid.....it dumps every saved datas, cache, etc etc so that you can go back to your saved point.
Titanium back up- is a app that backs up applications and their data...also has the ability to freeze system apps and create back up .zips of the devices applications.
TWRP back up- is a custom recovery that allows the user to create a back up image... that image will restore the boot image, rom, kernel, data, and cache back to the point of when the back up was created.
It used to be that restoring titanium data from one rom to another was bad. Is this still a recommended no no?
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First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
JRunner01 said:
First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
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yes you can use titanium to back up your apps and restore them on a custom rom...just restore the apps without data. you have the rest correct.
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
droidstyle said:
great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I agree that folks get into trouble because of what you posted in your last sentence. This is exactly why I do not recommend it because a new user 99% of the time wont know that. So I simply do not suggest it...now somebody more experienced like yourself is a different story.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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It has yet to happen to me.
The only time it came close was with better terminal emulator pro. I restored using titanium and it refused to work. Downloaded it from the play store, it worked fine. Then restored over that using titanium and it worked fine.
Anyone have any advice on creating the .zip? Is it even a possibility in TWRP? I used CWR for the longest and am a n00b with TWP. There are only 2 options when creating the update.zip: Edify (Android 1.6+, ClockworkMod 3+) and Amend (Android 1.5, ClockworkMod 2). So which is needed to flash in TWRP?
I'm not interested in creating a .zip of all my apps, just a .zip I can flash in recovery after clean wipe/flashing a new ROM. TIA guys
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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It only gets /system, /data, and kernel if you don't change the options. It's not getting everything on SD card or internal storage unless you specify that option.
I installed cm 11 on my phone today and i am downloading titanium backup and it says Root access: XFailed
Install supersu
Root is needly working, otherwise you haven't to install a custom rom... but you already did it.
Try to reflash the rom. If you continue to have similar problems, do a Titanium Backup, then a Nandroid backup and try to do a full wipe via recovery.
If you solved the problem, reinstall Titanium and restore only important "data" (I highly recommend you install and config manually the rest).
So, obviously you can delete the Nandroid backup, it's heavy and useless.
If root continues to be problematic, do newly it via Odin.
You might lost all data: if it happens, restore via recovery your Nandroid backup.
I hope I was exhaustive
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Root is needly working, otherwise you haven't to install a custom rom... but you already did it.
Try to reflash the rom. If you continue to have similar problems, do a Titanium Backup, then a Nandroid backup and try to do a full wipe via recovery.
If you solved the problem, reinstall Titanium and restore only important "data" (I highly recommend you install and config manually the rest).
So, obviously you can delete the Nandroid backup, it's heavy and useless.
If root continues to be problematic, do newly it via Odin.
You might lost all data: if it happens, restore via recovery your Nandroid backup.
I hope I was exhaustive
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i am ttrying to get on titnium backup
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i am ttrying to get on titnium backup
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Haha, I said a madness... sorry.
You can use MyBackups as alternative. If root permissions fail, it will usually works (with the limitation of excluding applications data, for eventual Whatsapp conversations you can do a backup from itself settings).
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Haha, I said a madness... sorry.
You can use MyBackups as alternative. If root permissions fail, it will usually works (with the limitation of excluding applications data, for eventual Whatsapp conversations you can do a backup from itself settings).
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so shall i re install cm 11
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so shall i re install cm 11
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The first attempt is this, you'll not lose any data.
If you not solve, do a full wipe via recovery, then reflash latest CM 11 and the Gapps.
Do as broken920 said and install supersu.
The superuser app built into CM11 uses older files and Titanium backup doesn't like them.
Make sure in settings, superuser, settings "Superuser access" is set to "apps and ADB"
I have a Verizon LG G3. I took the OTA update to 5.0.1 (VS98523C), rooted my phone and installed Titanium Backup, made a backup, and then proceeded to delete system apps. I'm getting error messages about weather apps so I want to restore them but can't because apparently TB needs to download them from the store. I installed TWRP so I could restore from Nandroid backups.
Is there a place I can download TWRP backups? I've seen threads on how to restore to stock but I don't want to lose root, I just want to restore the device to stock-but-just-rooted. It was such a huge pain in the neck for me to root that I don't want to lose root and re-root if I don't have to. It seems like someone would have uploaded backups but I've been searching for a while and all the search results just seem to point to how I can install TWRP.
LG g3 one click root is fast and simple if you need root. If you uninstall system apps make sure to reboot after or you'll get errors with the app trying to load. I don't think you can just grab someone else's backup. It would probably work but I doubt anyone wants to share all of their data with everyone.
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I have a Verizon LG G3. I took the OTA update to 5.0.1 (VS98523C), rooted my phone and installed Titanium Backup, made a backup, and then proceeded to delete system apps. I'm getting error messages about weather apps so I want to restore them but can't because apparently TB needs to download them from the store. I installed TWRP so I could restore from Nandroid backups.
Is there a place I can download TWRP backups? I've seen threads on how to restore to stock but I don't want to lose root, I just want to restore the device to stock-but-just-rooted. It was such a huge pain in the neck for me to root that I don't want to lose root and re-root if I don't have to. It seems like someone would have uploaded backups but I've been searching for a while and all the search results just seem to point to how I can install TWRP.
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You needed to have made the backups.
You can install one of the clean ROMs that is basically the OTA, like Jasmine.
Nandroid backups come from you making a backup of your system.
Thanks, I just installed Jasmine and (so far) it's working great. It fixed my problems AND now I can use all my apps in dual window mode!!! This is better than stock!
P.S. I did a nandroid backup right after installing Jasmine
Hello everyone. I am currently on AOSP 5.1.1 rooted and xposed. I am thinking about going to cm13. I have done a full backup of all things from TWRP Recovery. If I then restore this backup, will root access and xposed be restored too? Please help.
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Hello everyone. I am currently on AOSP 5.1.1 rooted and xposed. I am thinking about going to cm13. I have done a full backup of all things from TWRP Recovery. If I then restore this backup, will root access and xposed be restored too? Please help.
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YES DUDE
do it.. if u make backup make ii as you leave it! its like a windows img.
do it with no problems
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A nandroid backup of all partitions, which can exclude internal storage and SD card, will restore the OS to the exact same state. I mean, really exact state. Only the system time, which of course can't be stored, is changed when you restore backup. Everything else, like apps and their data is as it is, untouched.
Hi. I'm having issues with the battery life on my OPX and I would like to try some stuff. However, my OPX is my daily driver and i'd like to have real backups that can help me get back to business quickly if I make a mistake.
One such this is to try to turn off Google Services/Backup. However, how do I back up my app settings, then? How do people who go around testing ROMs and Kernels do it? Do they just blow away everything every time?
I'd also like to try other kernels, maybe even using a kernel manager, but I need root for that. After rooting, how can I update to the next OOS 3.x release? I'm on OOS 3.x, and for now I only want to be on OOS 3.x (no custom ROMs if I can avoid them), updating only when OnePlus releases a security update.
For backing up my phone apps instead of Google Services/Backup, I tried:
* MyBackup - will backup all APKs, but app-data will only be backed-up in rooted phones; it will also backup most of the things I also want and for what I'm already using it (SMS, MMS, Calendar events, Contacts, Home screen settings, etc.)
* Helium - will backup APKs and app-data, but only for half my apps; AFAIK, it won't back up the rest of the phone state, I'll have to keep using MyBackup for that.
Questions:
1) If I install TWRP and root with SuperSU, can I unroot? Can I then dirty-flash (for example) OOS 3.1.5 over 3.1.4 and re-root?
1.1) If I can't dirty-flash, how do I safely install an OOS upgrade on a phone with TWRP and root?
2) Will MyBackup backup and restore everything properly if I root?
3) Will Helium back up all apps if I root?
4) Would it be better to keep the stock recovery (booting temporarily TWRP from fastboot/adb just to install SuperSU) and then work with FlashFire? Does anyone use Flashfire with OPX?
This is a duplicate of a thread I created on the OP forums but it seems the official forums are as dead as OPs support for the OPX...
Thank you.
TiagoJSilva said:
Hi. I'm having issues with the battery life on my OPX and I would like to try some stuff. However, my OPX is my daily driver and i'd like to have real backups that can help me get back to business quickly if I make a mistake.
One such this is to try to turn off Google Services/Backup. However, how do I back up my app settings, then? How do people who go around testing ROMs and Kernels do it? Do they just blow away everything every time?
I'd also like to try other kernels, maybe even using a kernel manager, but I need root for that. After rooting, how can I update to the next OOS 3.x release? I'm on OOS 3.x, and for now I only want to be on OOS 3.x (no custom ROMs if I can avoid them), updating only when OnePlus releases a security update.
For backing up my phone apps instead of Google Services/Backup, I tried:
* MyBackup - will backup all APKs, but app-data will only be backed-up in rooted phones; it will also backup most of the things I also want and for what I'm already using it (SMS, MMS, Calendar events, Contacts, Home screen settings, etc.)
* Helium - will backup APKs and app-data, but only for half my apps; AFAIK, it won't back up the rest of the phone state, I'll have to keep using MyBackup for that.
Questions:
1) If I install TWRP and root with SuperSU, can I unroot? Can I then dirty-flash (for example) OOS 3.1.5 over 3.1.4 and re-root?
1.1) If I can't dirty-flash, how do I safely install an OOS upgrade on a phone with TWRP and root?
2) Will MyBackup backup and restore everything properly if I root?
3) Will Helium back up all apps if I root?
4) Would it be better to keep the stock recovery (booting temporarily TWRP from fastboot/adb just to install SuperSU) and then work with FlashFire? Does anyone use Flashfire with OPX?
This is a duplicate of a thread I created on the OP forums but it seems the official forums are as dead as OPs support for the OPX...
Thank you.
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Your best choice is magisk manager,install magisk and root with systemless root,follow their official thread for procedures, if u done everything properly, u ll hv root access and u ll not face any problem while getting sys updates.
Helium backup? I prefer titanium backup(requires root) it ll work properly
Another simple method,Take a full backup in twrp before playing with ur mobile,root it using twrp,install xposed watever, and when if opx get nxt update,u can install it manually from twrp..jst as simple and restore previously backedup data..
cva_kabil said:
Your best choice is magisk manager,install magisk and root with systemless root,follow their official thread for procedures, if u done everything properly, u ll hv root access and u ll not face any problem while getting sys updates.
Helium backup? I prefer titanium backup(requires root) it ll work properly
Another simple method,Take a full backup in twrp before playing with ur mobile,root it using twrp,install xposed watever, and when if opx get nxt update,u can install it manually from twrp..jst as simple and restore previously backedup data..
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OK, installed Magisk, rooted and tried again.
MyBackup failed twice to finish a backup, once it just reset while in the background, the other failed almost on the last app with "Not enough space" (SD Card still has 50GB+ available...)
Titanium Backup is refusing to backup to the SD card. When I try to select the SD card as a backup storage it won't allow me to create a new folder or select an existing folder. A rooted app refusing to write to the SD Card? Are you sh*tting me?
Now I have installed systemless Xposed for Magisk and ”Marshmallow SD fix" module. Apps still can't write to the SD card