Can't go back from 6.0.1 to previous firmware? - Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

I have my SGP612 (Wi-Fi only model 32gb version) and I had prerooted 6.0.1 but lack of access to custom recovery. Then I tried installing the custom recovery with the latest XZDualrecovery software and that ruined my tablet to go into bootloop. So the next solution was to try out in reverting back to Kitkat (or whatever software available I could grab here on XDA).
I also tried the Xperia Companion app to repair software, but that pushed it to upgrade to the latest Marshmallow version with no root or anything! Even now I reverted back to 23.4.A.0.546 (pretty sure this is Lollipop), I have all these service errors and it would go back to force restarting itself.
What to do?

GigaSPX said:
I have my SGP612 (Wi-Fi only model 32gb version) and I had prerooted 6.0.1 but lack of access to custom recovery. Then I tried installing the custom recovery with the latest XZDualrecovery software and that ruined my tablet to go into bootloop. So the next solution was to try out in reverting back to Kitkat (or whatever software available I could grab here on XDA).
I also tried the Xperia Companion app to repair software, but that pushed it to upgrade to the latest Marshmallow version with no root or anything! Even now I reverted back to 23.4.A.0.546 (pretty sure this is Lollipop), I have all these service errors and it would go back to force restarting itself.
What to do?
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You try FLASHTOOL?? And you go everywhere kitkat,lolipop ... with no root.
I do it from 6.01 to 4.4 now (until google fix the usb storage issue).

tito1231 said:
You try FLASHTOOL?? And you go everywhere kitkat,lolipop ... with no root.
I do it from 6.01 to 4.4 now (until google fix the usb storage issue).
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Although I didn't explicitly said it on my first post, that's how I'm trying to go back to older software. I will successfully flash, but i will have lots of processes crashing and errors, which then it will do a forced restart and repeat. Processes crashing such as com.Android.phone and etc.

gigaspx said:
although i didn't explicitly said it on my first post, that's how i'm trying to go back to older software. I will successfully flash, but i will have lots of processes crashing and errors, which then it will do a forced restart and repeat. Processes crashing such as com.android.phone and etc.
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not the right firmware FOR YOUR TAB ??

tito1231 said:
not the right firmware FOR YOUR TAB ??
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From @Spectre51 in the FTF collection thread:
US Retail - SGP612
23.4.A.0.546
1291-4653_R4C

Shall I attempt to bootloader unlock instead to be able to revert back to Kitkat, kingroot to install XZDualrecovery, then flash prerooted Marshmallow correctly?

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When you used the flashtool, did you check the possibility to wipe data and the other two options? Can't say what they are at the moment, but you need a clean install.
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the problem you are describing is happening if you dont check wipe data - always wipe data when downgrading or you get crashing processes

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[Q] Android Jelly Bean update

Hi Guys, I have looked high and low but cannot seem to find a definitive answer so to what to do.
Basically I have a Samsung S3 which about 5 months ago I rooted to enable me to use any network. Basically O2 who I used to have a contract with messed up somehow and on their records they could not find a IMEI number and so couldn't unlock, I was going round in circles and as I was moving abroad I had no other option.
Everything went fine and it is only now that I would like to update the OS to its latest version that when I go to the settings and update it says something about having a modified firmware (I think, another story altogether but I now broke the screen and so waiting for a replacement to fix it).
My questions are:
Will I ever be able to update normally via the settings menu again?
What is the latest stable Android update that I could use? KitKat?
Where is the best place to source the most recent Android distributions?
Basically I am just looking for a bit of advice on how to go about keeping my phone up to date with the latest features. I am not really interested in adding hacked functionality etc at this point.
Thanks
If you unlocked your phone using the 'free' methods then updating to the latest rom will return the network lock or corrupt your efs folder, depending on how the unlock was achieved.
You can't use ota updates as you've modified your phone.
Sammobile is where you obtain the latest rom.
Also, questions go the q&a forum and all the above information is posted many times.
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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bmouthboyo said:
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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As said, you wont get any updates via OTA if your phone is rooted,
Go to Sammobile.com, find the latest UK / Europe (BTU) generic rom it will be the version ending MJ9.
Download Odin and Guide here
Flash the rom using Odin, doing this will remove root access, once you have installed the rom, enter recovery mode and clear Cache / Dalvik Cache then factory reset (be aware this will wipe your phone and internal storage so copy any files to your PC first)
Boot the phone and set it up, then go to software updates on your phone and update the MJ9 version to MK6,
Now your phone will be fully stock and get OTA updates in the future plus you will have the generic UK and Europe firmware version (BTU) Android 4.3.
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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bmouthboyo said:
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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No wait for the next full build .
Read the faqs and guides as you wait .
Had a good read about, thanks for that.
Does anyone know or hazard a guess when next official jellybean release may be? Do they run on development cycles, or is this more an advice patch?
Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
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Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
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Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
bmouthboyo said:
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
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If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
ag4751 said:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Factory reset will not wipe the internal sd card. So if u back up whatsapp conversations without ext sd card, factory reset will not wipe it.
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ag4751 said:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
bmouthboyo said:
Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
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Yes, my phone was Stock o2 when I got it in May 2012, first thing I did was flash the Generic BTU firmware to get rid on o2 stuff, I have never had to do a Factory reset nor wipe Cache, Dalvik Cache on my phone, it has always been rooted and apart for the MJ9 issues that Samsung had late last year it has worked fine, no lag, no random reboots, no freezing.
If you don't root you will get OTA updates, if you root you wont but you can still use Kies or Sammobile to update to any latest version releases, the factory reset will wipe pictures, music and your app data from your internal storage so if you back them up to your PC before a Factory reset you can replace them afterwards, but if you have not had any custom roms on your phone the need for a factory reset would be highly unlikely.
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
bmouthboyo said:
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
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Choice on that is yours really.
Just because there is a higher number version doesn’t mean its an update from what you have unless it is based on the same version (eg BTU) if you have BTU MK6 and there was a BTU MK7 then that is an upgrade.
Where Isreal has MK7, India has ML4 this generally relates to how long and how many attempts they have in getting that country specific version ready for release, not an upgraded version of MK6.
You need to ensure that the rom you do install has multi CSC’s otherwise you could end up with no network signal or data.

[Q] Lost root, help downgrading to 4.1.2

Hi all,
I'm a bit of a n00b at this, so please forgive me.
I started with Android 4.1.2, Kernel 3.4.0-g298631f-02047-gec59411, build 10.1.C.0.370.
I rooted it using Doomlord's easy-root and then when attempting to flash custom recovery, I accidentally flashed some other .img and the tablet wouldn't even turn on. I cried. Like, a few good tears.
Went online, found out I wasn't screwed, and figured out how to flash SGP312_10.4.B.0.577_VMo DE_1273-3719_WIFI312G.
But, as I said, I lost root, and am confused about how to downgrade back to 4.1.2 properly without bricking.
Here is my current info:
Version 4.3, Kernel 3.4.0-g1b44cd5, build 10.4.b.0.577
In this thread, under "Downgrade your rom" and "back to 4.1.2 and rooting" it says "if you're in 4.3, Flash this SGP 351 4.1.2 FTF using Flash Tool and it will be booted in 4.1.2. if you have different Variant downgrade to your Variant FTF file"
What is a variant FTF file? Can I just use any SGP 312 4.1.2 FTF? Does anyone know a safe one to use?
Thanks!
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
worf_1977 said:
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
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Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
UberBaumer said:
Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
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I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
Cat McGowan said:
I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
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THANK YOU, SIR.
I really appreciate it!
Back onto 4.1 and just rooted again. Now I just need to manage not screwing up installing CWM like I did last time!
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
UberBaumer said:
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
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TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
Cat McGowan said:
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
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Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
UberBaumer said:
Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
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I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
Cat McGowan said:
I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
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Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
UberBaumer said:
Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
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When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
Cat McGowan said:
When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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Damn, maybe I was a bit too hasty in rooting my tablet; why is it that I can no longer to OTA updates? If I were to buy SuperSU PRO (for survival mode) is there any benefit to me? I see that it allows for OTA updates.
I am currently rooted via Superuser (by clockworkmod).
When you say I'll need to install 4.2.2 by flashing, you mean through Flashtool, right? Which build should I get (and where, one of the development forums)?
Is the reason why one is advised to install custom roms via recovery mode in order to maintain root access (which I'm assuming doesn't happen if you flash through Flashtool)?
Something I forgot to mention earlier is that I did unlock the bootloader. I'm not sure if that helps or hinders me at this point.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer all my questions. I really love this new toy, and I'm so terrified of bricking it.
Cat McGowan said:
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
UberBaumer said:
If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
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Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
Cat McGowan said:
Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
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Thank you again my friend.
Is there a list of apps that are safe to uninstall, or, rather, a list of apps that I shouldn't tinker with (for fear of uninstalling an app that has a dependency on something critical)?
Also, I'm on the Google Play store and I see both Titanium Backup Pro and Rom Toolbox Pro. Should I buy both? If you had to buy just one, which would it be?
My main goal is to just make the smoothest experience possible. I want to take maximum advantage of the hardware in the tablet and have as few unnecessary programs running as possible.

[Q] Live Wallpapers Suddenly Stopped Working

Good day all,
Here are my specs:
SGP312
Android Version 4.2.2
Kernel 3.4.0
Build 10.3.1.C.0.136
For the last few months I've ALWAYS had a live wallpaper going, usually either:
Asteroids Pack https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxelus.asteroidspacklivewallpaper
or
Galaxy Pack https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxelus.galaxypacklivewallpaper
However, about a week ago, out of nowhere it completely stopped functioning.
After selecting any combination of settings, once I click "open" to launch the app, I get the mysterious and infuriating "Unfortunately, Galaxy Pack has stopped."
Any idea what could be causing this, or why it would just happen out of the blue?
UberBaumer said:
Good day all,
Here are my specs:
SGP312
Android Version 4.2.2
Kernel 3.4.0
Build 10.3.1.C.0.136
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very old firmware (1 year old) you're using. Try updating to 4.3 or 4.4.4
Rootk1t said:
very old firmware (1 year old) you're using. Try updating to 4.3 or 4.4.4
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Which would you recommend?
I'm assuming by flashing new firmware I'll lose all my data. I use Titanium Backup Pro, but would I be able to later "restore" my files and settings from a backup on previous firmware (my current 4.2)?
UberBaumer said:
Which would you recommend?
I'm assuming by flashing new firmware I'll lose all my data. I use Titanium Backup Pro, but would I be able to later "restore" my files and settings from a backup on previous firmware (my current 4.2)?
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Try .283 4.4.4. You can update via pc-companion or flashtool (without wipes), and all your data will be saved. OR you may do a clean install and then restore your apps with Titanium backup.
Rootk1t said:
Try .283 4.4.4. You can update via pc-companion or flashtool (without wipes), and all your data will be saved. OR you may do a clean install and then restore your apps with Titanium backup.
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Do most people do clean installs? I know it's analogous to formatting a hard drive before reinstalling Windows, in order to minimize the chance of old issues persisting, but is it necessary?
I'm assuming that if I was to do a clean install, I would just follow one of the guides using one of the custom recovery tools, and flash from recovery, right?
UberBaumer said:
Do most people do clean installs? I know it's analogous to formatting a hard drive before reinstalling Windows, in order to minimize the chance of old issues persisting, but is it necessary?
I'm assuming that if I was to do a clean install, I would just follow one of the guides using one of the custom recovery tools, and flash from recovery, right?
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nope. Sony devices don't have stock recovery installed. So just flash with flashtool with wipes or no wipes, as you wish.

[Q] Downgrade from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4

Hi Guys. Has anyone tried to downgrade their 5.0.2 to 4.4.4? I'm not too happy with Lollipop -- I prefer the darker UI of Kitkat, I also get less battery and some lags in Lollipop.
I've been seeing tutorials for S5 devices in downgrading to 4.4.4 using Direct Flash of Odin. Do you think this is safe? I'm concerned that it may brick the device since it may trigger Knox and other factors such as baseband, etc.
Please let me know your process if you have successfully done a downgrade using Alpha Carrier device. (I have an 850L)
Thank you in advance.
I have already done this twice but at 850f. Full wipe before and after flashing. Everything was ok without any problems (knox etc). Remember backing up!
Thanks!
How do i backup without a custom recovery?
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Manually with your pc (photos, music etc) or by using kies
It worked. Thanks a lot! Am so glad to be back to kitkat!
I believe this will not work on AT&T phone.
I am still on KK.
Done also mine and rooted, remove sms limit
Cross flash 100% successful
SM-G850F rom with SM-G850L kernel and Modem
exaflare said:
Cross flash 100% successful
SM-G850F rom with SM-G850L kernel and Modem
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Nice. Do you have a link on how you flashed it? Is it straight flash using odin?
How is the performance, did it improve without all the korean bloatware?
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mykeldg said:
Nice. Do you have a link on how you flashed it? Is it straight flash using odin?
How is the performance, did it improve without all the korean bloatware?
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Nope, I flashed it thru twrp its a custom rom actually
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-alpha/development/rom-spacex-rom-stable-t2986310
Debloated no korean apps, no Korean language.
I just follow my instict and it works
Before I have an experience in flashing and converting korean to international rom from LG Optimus G and fortunately they almost the same.
As long as you have twrp recovery and back ups and still can boot up to download mode don't afraid to experiment, besides there'a Odin if your phone doesn't boot up
Alpha International Nicer on Kitkat with Dark Menus etc
suspected with Alpha 850M that upgrading to Lollipop would not be much of an upgrade- I like my dark menus and smooth performance.
I Android L improved Camera and enabled VoLTE ( once rumored probably not possible because Specific Carrier Software is still needed for VoLTE) would possibly make it worthwhile but Alpha was designed around 4.4 so performance less likely to be buggy IMO on Kitkat.
Also Samsung has a rule it seems that nothing beats the S series except the Note Series- so they intentionally dumbed down the S5 Sensor to 12 Megapixels and stuck it in Alpha.
With the Note 4 Camera and a slightly thicker design with 2600 Mah Battery and SD support- Alpha could have been a big international hit/ popular phone IMO.
pls help
pls help
after i updated it to lolipop and then downgraded to kitkat it bricked after that when i fixed it
it started to oveheating when im playing or watching videos and other...and im sure that it isnt batterys problem its CPU overheatingg
lashaofficial said:
pls help
after i updated it to lolipop and then downgraded to kitkat it bricked after that when i fixed it
it started to oveheating when im playing or watching videos and other...and im sure that it isnt batterys problem its CPU overheatingg
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Reflash with official stock rom from sammobile thru odin
bricked sm-a500fu after downgrade to KK
I had rooted my 4.4.4 with kingroot, changed to SuperSU with supersume and unrooted with SuperSU. Then Iwent back to stock (all official no Knox) with Odin (4.4.4 (A500FUXXU1AOB4_A500FUATO1AOB1_A500FUXXU1AOB4_HOME.tar.md5).
Then I went from stock to 5.0.2 (A500FUXXU1BOE6_A500FUATO1BOE1_A500FUXXU1BOE6_HOME.tar.md5) with Odin.
Actually after updating from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 (with odin) the phone converted a lot of apps during startup - Did this also take minutes for you guys ?
All fine and phone quite fast, but no chance to root with Kingroot.
So I wanted back to 4.4.4 I used Odin again and flashed the 4.4.4 as written above. And then: BRICK. Please tell me and others what I possibly did wrong:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3167400
gggg said:
I had rooted my 4.4.4 with kingroot, changed to SuperSU with supersume and unrooted with SuperSU. Then Iwent back to stock (all official no Knox) with Odin (4.4.4 (A500FUXXU1AOB4_A500FUATO1AOB1_A500FUXXU1AOB4_HOME.tar.md5).
Then I went from stock to 5.0.2 (A500FUXXU1BOE6_A500FUATO1BOE1_A500FUXXU1BOE6_HOME.tar.md5) with Odin.
Actually after updating from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 (with odin) the phone converted a lot of apps during startup - Did this also take minutes for you guys ?
All fine and phone quite fast, but no chance to root with Kingroot.
So I wanted back to 4.4.4 I used Odin again and flashed the 4.4.4 as written above. And then: BRICK. Please tell me and others what I possibly did wrong:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3167400
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You need to reformat via recovery.
Off your phone then press volume up + home button + power button to enter recovery.
Flashing thru odin wont format your data and thats the culprit those data from lollipop aren't compatible with kitkat
exaflare said:
You need to reformat via recovery. Off your phone then press volume up + home button + power button to enter recovery.
Flashing thru odin wont format your data and thats the culprit those data from lollipop aren't compatible with kitkat
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I was on stock LL ... I think stock recovery can only wipe data/factory ... does this reformat as well and if so, wouldnt it reformat it the way LL needs it to be (it doesnt know about my wish to odin KK afterwards
I thought this could only be done by custom recovery or a PIT in Odin ???
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I was on stock LL ... I think stock recovery can only wipe data/factory ... does this reformat as well and if so, wouldnt it reformat it the way LL needs it to be (it doesnt know about my wish to odin KK afterwards
I thought this could only be done by custom recovery or a PIT in Odin ???
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Based on my experience downgrading from 5.0.2 to kitkat via odin without factory reset will cause boot loop, the only solution was to wipe data factory reset thru stock recovery.
I manage to root my galaxy alpha 5.0.2 via CF-auto root + kingroot.
Kingroot will serves as your superSU because the SU installed by cf-auto root wont run or give root access. Then install twrp recovery.
In twrp recovery we can wipe data, system, without wiping internal storage which contains our files.
Then after wiping.... reboot to download mode or reboot to switch off in twrp then enter download mode manually.
Then downgrade to kitkat, it wont cause boot loop because I already wiped the data from twrp.
Only downgrading from a different OS version needs factory reset.
Any same Kitkat but with different builds won't cause boot loop even downgrading or upgrading thru odin without the need of wiping data.
Hello, can anyone write down step-by-step how to downgrade to KitKat? I've just bought my Alpha and it came with Lollipop. I have a valid warranty, so I don't want to loose it.
Oh, and I don't have a Windows PC, so I think Odin isn't a solution in my case.

Z3v 5.1.1 Full Root

I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
Thanks, Iambedook. Every experience helps. Kingoroot got me into trouble once before in the past.
Can you flash back to 4.4 from 5.1.1?
iambedook said:
I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
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I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
GigaSPX said:
Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
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Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
pvcdroid said:
Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
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You may root, but I would advise against anything else. the Z5 Camera is most likely not compatible for our phones on 5.1.1, and neither is the FM Tuner. It's a whole lot I can't touch base on yet.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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I was able to flash back to 4.4.4 after i messed things up, but after going back to 4.4.4 i am struggling to get back to 5.1.1. The updates are not appearing, stating I am at the latest version.
I would also like a confirm if this. Because I'm sitting around and waiting for a rooted 5.1.1 copy for the phone. Im on 5.0.2 right now and all is working good but still waiting. Thanks all.
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow!!! That sounds great, thanks Tiger
thals1992 said:
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
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Just an FYI, after I needed to revert to 4.4.4. I was struggling to receive updates to get back to 5.1.1. I had to use the Flashtool, 3-5 times to get the correct update prompts to appear. If anyone else had similar issues when reverting back, let me know, but re flashing repeatedly worked for me.
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow,
Download url please
immtu said:
Wow,
Download url please
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Just scroll down to the z3v dev section.
I was actually able to flash the stock ftf coming 5.0.2. I had to flash it with default options the first time with it failing. I then found that I have to basically flash noting to clear the error on the phone by checking everything in exclude and the other exclude box where it shows its not displaying any files in the middle of the window.
Once that went through, I was able to upgrade from stock to .44 and then the the two updates for 5.1.1. After all that I reset to factory again to test on rooting the phone. I was too, able to obtain root with King Root. I was able to install zxrecovery and xposed with no problems. I'm actually used to King Root as I had to use it on the Verizon branded 7" tablet that didn't have any other possible methods previously. I also found that Busybox was slightly out of date (difference of 2.0) and installed to /sbin which wasn't too big of an issue.
Beyond that my phone seems to get pretty warm and typically complains about not charging even on a 2 Amp charger.
Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
Zandermc3 said:
Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
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Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
thals1992 said:
Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
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Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
Zandermc3 said:
Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
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Thats why then. This is only for the Z3v the Verizon variant.
Hi there,
New to the forum. After several hours of reading and searching, I became bewildered enough to decide to register and post .
This thread looked promising. I'm currently on rooted 4.4.4 with this phone. I also have a custom recovery installed. Im trying to get to 5.1.1. As of right now, I assume my only option is to wait for a 5.1.1 ftf so that I can update, because the OTA updates won't work (phone reboots into the custom recovery and the update is interrupted).
Is there an easier way to get the OTA? Or am I stuck waiting for an ftf?
To be clear, my goal is to be on 5.1.1 with root. But at this point I don't think I can get to 5.1.1 at all.

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