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Hey guys, a friend of mine is selling his 8 month old S2, and he is willing to give it to me for a good price, I was thinking it would be worth the upgrade (using a i9003 now) and a brand new galaxy nexus is just too expensive (so are the other 720p screen resolution monsters ) since the s2 is still a formidable force and has loads of dev support it seems like a good idea, so this is what I wanted to know.
He is selling it because he gets poor battery life, I feel he has not optimized it right, and in right hands will do well, what is the average you guys get? I'm happy with a day (That's what I get currently on my current phone)
The phone has suffered a strong fall once on a tiled surface, this was more than 6 months ago but the only damage was a cracked screen, the touch response is perfectly fine, there's only a crack on the screen. He will fix it and sell it.
What else should I look out for? He is giving me the phone for a day to check out and use, so I wanna know what all should I check thoroughly, so that I don't buy a lemon , like issues facing the I9100, the screen discoloration, wifi strength, gps,overheating or any other issues I should know about and can be detected. (I got burned once buying a used xperia x10 which used to overheat and restart all the time! was barely even usable!) also any issues facing the early batches, any diagnostics that should be run etc...
Just asking because I'm curious and want to make an informed decision. don't wanna end up with a dud!
Thanks in advance!
Make sure it boots up and and it can take your sim card as it could be network locked , if this be the case unlock apps are on market and within this forum..
Check battery chack phone charges ok. Like anything have a play before you take up their offer..
Check whether the following:
1.Simcard slot
2.Memory card slot
3.all physical buttons
look out for:
1.scratch in camera lens.
2.condition of usb port and headphone jack.
you can leave out the software as it will be ok with a new flash, anyway check the working of all sensors by using some apps from market.
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Make sure it boots up and and it can take your sim card as it could be network locked , if this be the case unlock apps are on market and within this forum..
Check battery chack phone charges ok. Like anything have a play before you take up their offer..
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bala_gamer said:
Check whether the following:
1.Simcard slot
2.Memory card slot
3.all physical buttons
look out for:
1.scratch in camera lens.
2.condition of usb port and headphone jack.
you can leave out the software as it will be ok with a new flash, anyway check the working of all sensors by using some apps from market.
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Regarding network lock it is not locked because I'm in india and the phone is from the UK and he has been using it perfectly. One question, how many water indicators are there? just in case I need to check? The usb port doesn't have a cover so it remains open so that's a concern.
@bala_gamer I see you had the same phone as I do now, and I'm contemplating a similar move!
any stress test apps I can run to see if all is ok under pressure?
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If it is really a friend, why I are you scared of getting a lemon? Or is it just some guy you know, who is not really a friend?
Real friends don't sell you crap I would imagine?
*#0*# Takes you to LCD test mode. Should be able to see if screen has dead pixels and such.
It feels like no one has really answered your question so far!
I'll give it a shot.
Battery life - you're right, optimally configured SGS2s go a long way - mine will last through a day with 50-60% left over with 2 email accounts syncing (nothing else though, no Facebook, Twitter etc)
The battery life is absolutely not a problem if it's a day you're aiming for.
Problems:
Most if not all cameras have a pink spot in the centre - I don't mind it, but you can see it.
Yellowish left side of display - I have this, it's quite distracting sometimes. However, this was fixed up by the latest kernels, which balance it out a bit better. Mine is also a phone from the UK from 8 months ago, so its safe to assume this will be a problem as well, given the frequency of the problem. Not really an issue for me though with later kernels.
CM9 - ICS will be late to the party on the SGS2 because of closed source drivers - if that's a problem, get a different phone because thats unlikely to change anytime soon!
There aren't really any other problems which I can think of - its a thoroughly good phone!
Remoteconcern said:
It feels like no one has really answered your question so far!
I'll give it a shot.
Battery life - you're right, optimally configured SGS2s go a long way - mine will last through a day with 50-60% left over with 2 email accounts syncing (nothing else though, no Facebook, Twitter etc)
The battery life is absolutely not a problem if it's a day you're aiming for.
Problems:
Most if not all cameras have a pink spot in the centre - I don't mind it, but you can see it.
Yellowish left side of display - I have this, it's quite distracting sometimes. However, this was fixed up by the latest kernels, which balance it out a bit better. Mine is also a phone from the UK from 8 months ago, so its safe to assume this will be a problem as well, given the frequency of the problem. Not really an issue for me though with later kernels.
CM9 - ICS will be late to the party on the SGS2 because of closed source drivers - if that's a problem, get a different phone because thats unlikely to change anytime soon!
There aren't really any other problems which I can think of - its a thoroughly good phone!
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Thanks man appreciate it, been reading up on the threads here and saw the major things afflicting it are the banding issue, the pink spot, the display faults... anything else?oh and what is the approx cost of replacing the cracked screen? Anyone from india can let me know?
Bump! Guys anyone knows how much a screen replacement is? Anyone from India perhaps?
Oh and guys the camera glass cover has some tiny scratches around it, nothing major but it does have a few, not too deep, but visible, will this have an effect on the quality? Because I couldn't notice anything in the pictures taken, but would like it to be at its best!
Greetings to all the XDA community. I felt like i had a bunch of different problems with my new HTC One, that encompassed a few different threads, so i was wondering if Im the only one with such problems. If any of you had experienced one or all of these problems please let me know what you did to fix them. I appreciate your input, first time HTC owner here
1. Battery life very very subpar. Charged it for 4hours out of the box before using the first time, battery fell from 100 to 20 in 5 hrs of regular use.
2. Battery charge time is terrible. Takes 3 hours to go from 30% to 95%.
3 Wifi scan range is horrible. My Note 2 picked up 2 bars of wifi in my room, while the One cant even connect. Sitting 10ft from the Router, bars keep fluctuating from 4(max) to 1, sticking to 2 bars mostly. I dont want to burn through my cellular data allowance atleast at home.
4 Camera resolution in very average, I know its only 4 "ultrapixel", but it could be muh sharper even with that.
5 and ofcourse, the legendary capacitive buttons, especially the Back button. Unresponsive half the time, responsive after 3 soft touched (and one frustrated one). I dont mind them lighting off at times, but the unresponsiveness is unacceptable.
The build is gorgeous, no problems anywhere. The speakers are just awesome. The phone feels amazing in hand. But if i cant get wifi in my own house, and the buttons keep being so stubborn, i cant spend 2 days with that, let alone 2 years. Am i being too picky here?I hope so, cuz i REALLY love this phone for its PROs.
Please let me know what you guys think!! Thanks!!
My only problem is that battery seems to not last long and the gap on top. I wonder if I can exchange it?
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i didn't notice battery life issues (esp coming over from my nexus s) but I probably have less background stuff running than most-- I actively shut down facebook syncs, google talk, etc.
no issues with wifi antenna whatsoever.
the capacitive responsiveness issue is documented and supposedly fixed in one of the upcoming OTAs.
Sounds like you may have a defective device. I'd exchange it.
Can I exchange it because of the gap?
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Can I exchange it because of the gap?
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worse they can say is no lol tell them you feel like its defective and its supposed to be "gaplesssssssssss"
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Can I exchange it because of the gap?
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They advertised the phone as GAPLESS so if theres a gap and you think is bothering you then you free to return it ( if you still on you 15 days )
Half of the top of mine is gapped from between the head jack and the power button all on the left side id guess roughly 1/64th of an inch..maybe less it's hardly a concern that's how miniscule or a problem it is to me.
As long as it doesn't display screen issues and get dirt beneath I'm fine with it.
It's not falling apart and I use an otterbox anyhow.
It would be far more realistic to let the phone grow old.... maybe drop it ...crack something let wear take place....so it looks legit... have a good reason to get an exchange/assurion claim.
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Half of the top of mine is gapped from between the head jack and the power button all on the left side id guess roughly 1/64th of an inch..maybe less it's hardly a concern that's how miniscule or a problem it is to me.
As long as it doesn't display screen issues and get dirt beneath I'm fine with it.
It's not falling apart and I use an otterbox anyhow.
It would be far more realistic to let the phone grow old.... maybe drop it ...crack something let wear take place....so it looks legit... have a good reason to get an exchange/assurion claim.
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Can you post a photo of the gap? I'm scared of getting one with more problems though
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I don't know about T-Mobile, but I know many international customers have gotten warranty exchanges because of gaps. If the gap is big enough that it bothers you, ask for an exchange. It is definitely ridiculous on some units I've seen.
About charge times, it charges normally up to about 90% then slows down much more than most phones. I think it's very well-implemented given the totally non-repairable nature of the phone. I just finished charging an hour ago, and it charged from about 30% to 90% in under 2 hours, then spent another hour going from 90% to 100%. It's much better to charge slowly at the high end and preserve the health of the battery. Also most people probably know this, but charging over USB from a computer is much, much slower than using a wall charger (and wall chargers vary in power output as well).
Can I just go in a T-Mobile store and ask for an exchange for the small gap? & they'll replace it?
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Greetings to all the XDA community. I felt like i had a bunch of different problems with my new HTC One, that encompassed a few different threads, so i was wondering if Im the only one with such problems. If any of you had experienced one or all of these problems please let me know what you did to fix them. I appreciate your input, first time HTC owner here
1. Battery life very very subpar. Charged it for 4hours out of the box before using the first time, battery fell from 100 to 20 in 5 hrs of regular use.
2. Battery charge time is terrible. Takes 3 hours to go from 30% to 95%.
3 Wifi scan range is horrible. My Note 2 picked up 2 bars of wifi in my room, while the One cant even connect. Sitting 10ft from the Router, bars keep fluctuating from 4(max) to 1, sticking to 2 bars mostly. I dont want to burn through my cellular data allowance atleast at home.
4 Camera resolution in very average, I know its only 4 "ultrapixel", but it could be muh sharper even with that.
5 and ofcourse, the legendary capacitive buttons, especially the Back button. Unresponsive half the time, responsive after 3 soft touched (and one frustrated one). I dont mind them lighting off at times, but the unresponsiveness is unacceptable.
The build is gorgeous, no problems anywhere. The speakers are just awesome. The phone feels amazing in hand. But if i cant get wifi in my own house, and the buttons keep being so stubborn, i cant spend 2 days with that, let alone 2 years. Am i being too picky here?I hope so, cuz i REALLY love this phone for its PROs.
Please let me know what you guys think!! Thanks!!
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I am having the exact same problem as you (#5 above) with the capacitive buttons. The Back button doesn't respond half the time. It is really frustrating. The Home button too respond especially when double tapping to bring up the recent apps list it doesn't respond like half the time. I thought maybe it was a software issue. I guess it's a defective device then?
I have read that the buttons can be fixed through a software update by htc, though I have no idea when tmobile might push it out. For people in Europe with the same problem, they claim the OTA fixed it.
If that's the only problem you have, it may be with waiting for the ota or a custom rom with fixes.
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Can I just go in a T-Mobile store and ask for an exchange for the small gap? & they'll replace it?
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Would you actually return the phone cause of a gap?
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Would you actually return the phone cause of a gap?
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Well it is advertised as zero gap
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As long as u are covered under buyers remorse, they will take a return and give u a brand new phone for whatever reason, or so they have told me over and over..call the place u got it from and find out how long you have got till that remorse period ends
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As long as u are covered under buyers remorse, they will take a return and give u a brand new phone for whatever reason, or so they have told me over and over..call the place u got it from and find out how long you have got till that remorse period ends
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They will replace it if they even have anymore in the store. Most stores are completely out of it
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I got mine online, so im not sure of in store availability.
Thanks to each and everyone for your valuable advice and experiences. After countless hours of online research and tech support, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people are having a at least one issue out of the box with their phone. HTC seems to have rushed this phone into the market in an effort to beat the S4 in timing, but in doing so they have caused quite a few quality control issues with undoubtedly the best smartphone at this time.
I bought a S4 to compare side by side before I made my decision, and after days of deliberation it seems that the One is superior to the S4 only in the flawless design and excellent speakers. This is purely my opinion, but after putting them side by side in my room, and seeing full wifi bars on my s4 and the one struggling to get just one, I must with heavy heart return my One. I came from a note 2, looking for a 1080p display and connectivity for my media consumption, and HTC could only provide one (pun unintended).
With all of you struggling with issues with your phones, good luck. I guess I'm staying samsung for now.
My older HTC One X also has poor wifi in my house. My iPad picks up signal great in my house but the minute I start walking away from my wifi router the HTC One X drops connection. Seems like wifi reception is not their strong point in all their smartphones.
I have 3 issues with my current phone.
1- It has a bright spot on the screen. I'm not sure if it is a bright pixel or what but it only glares when I am on a white screen and it is about the size of a period.
2- My speakerphone sounds blown... it crackles every time i use it.
3- My phone takes 8+ hours to charge no matter what charger I am using. OEM or not.
Now. Do you feel any of those issues would get a replacement? I do not have insurance but my phone is still under warranty since I got mine in February.
Try a program called dead pixel test(market) and then tell Verizon your results. I always run my refurb phones through a battery of tests.
To your last? Are you rooted? If so change kernels and or calibrate your battery and steal your kids chargers and test.good luck
PS I gave you a free txs
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Try a program called dead pixel test(market) and then tell Verizon your results. I always run my refurb phones through a battery of tests.
To your last? Are you rooted? If so change kernels and or calibrate your battery and steal your kids chargers and test.good luck
PS I gave you a free txs
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Not rooted.
The dead pixel test puts that black menu bar at the bottom of the screen.... and that is where the issue is.
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I have 3 issues with my current phone.
1- It has a bright spot on the screen. I'm not sure if it is a bright pixel or what but it only glares when I am on a white screen and it is about the size of a period.
2- My speakerphone sounds blown... it crackles every time i use it.
3- My phone takes 8+ hours to charge no matter what charger I am using. OEM or not.
Now. Do you feel any of those issues would get a replacement? I do not have insurance but my phone is still under warranty since I got mine in February.
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Sound like excellent reasons to get a replacement.
Where did you get it?
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Went ahead and took it into Verizon and they plugged it in to see what it did but that didn't matter as soon as the chick saw the spot on the screen she ordered my replacement.
A lot easier than I expected and whole lot easier than things were with T-mobile.
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Went ahead and took it into Verizon and they plugged it in to see what it did but that didn't matter as soon as the chick saw the spot on the screen she ordered my replacement.
A lot easier than I expected and whole lot easier than things were with T-mobile.
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I've always had good experiences with Verizon like that. Normally the most I've seen the do is check for water damage. They're usually very understanding and don't mind helping out if they can. That's why I love big red!
So I have a similar screen issue, but mine is a blue haze in the middle of the screen. Also been having the SIM card error problem. I called VZW today and they're sending me one of the certified like new devices. However, they did mention if there was any damage to the phone I would be charged $299. I mentioned that the plastic cover over the charging port had broken off like day 2 I had the phone. She said she's not sure if that would or would not be considered enough damage to charge the fee. Has anyone sent it back with the broken cover and had any issues being charged?
These are the terms for a certified like new device as written up by Droid-Life.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/3...nt-program-phone-protection-plans-now-a-must/
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Verizon has been good about replacements. Sadly I am on my third. First one had a broken headphone jack, replacement had a stuck pixel, and now I'm hoping for no more problems haha.
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Mnorton1228 said:
I've always had good experiences with Verizon like that. Normally the most I've seen the do is check for water damage. They're usually very understanding and don't mind helping out if they can. That's why I love big red!
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Yea I'll say we get screwed on the bill but every time I've had an issue like that they've been good about it.
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It's hard for me to imagine a Sony product that isn't made of the highest quality.
When browsing around the Sony forums and other places on the net, I keep seeing the same complaints. The magnetic charging ports are falling out which is allowing water to leak into the phone, ruining the phone. The phone also shuts down after downloading a lot of data over LTE or recording with the camera, due to overheating. I also see reports of people being unable to hold conversations because one party can not hear the other.
Are these people over exaggerating or are these real complaints? I was just ready to pull the trigger on one when I started seeing all of this stuff. Can anyone chime in that has had their phone over 1 month and has ZERO issues with it? Maybe there are just a select few that got a bad batch or something.
If you post can you also please post when you bought the phone or when you think it was manufactured. Maybe we can narrow this down to a time frame or specific region.
Just try to buy week 22 or higer (you have a little sticker that you pull out in sdcard compartment.
Yes, there are some things that we wouldn't expect from Sony but that was older batches.
I can record 5 min 4K video so can't see problem here.
All other manufacturers limited 4K to 5min, that's why they didn't have same problems.
Sony decided not to limit duration, so sometimes there will be overheating msg and closing camera.
I don't have any problem you said, I know for those guys and I'm sure that's all true but that's not general flaw and issue, that's perfectly normal...
If you aren't satisfied with Z2 you can always return in or change for another device...
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I came from M8 and S5, after having the z2 for 2 months, there are couple things I really don't like about the z2, it is noticeably slower, say you click on the camera icon, it doesn't come on instantaneously, the in call voice quality and speaker phone are only ok, not great, volume is a bit on the low side.
The in call quality and dim volume is a deal breaker for me, I am looking to switch to the G3 or Note 4.
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Just try to buy week 22 or higer (you have a little sticker that you pull out in sdcard compartment.
Yes, there are some things that we wouldn't expect from Sony but that was older batches.
I can record 5 min 4K video so can't see problem here.
All other manufacturers limited 4K to 5min, that's why they didn't have same problems.
Sony decided not to limit duration, so sometimes there will be overheating msg and closing camera.
I don't have any problem you said, I know for those guys and I'm sure that's all true but that's not general flaw and issue, that's perfectly normal...
If you aren't satisfied with Z2 you can always return in or change for another device...
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Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
So how long have you had your phone? Do you use the magnetic charging connector at all?
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I came from M8 and S5, after having the z2 for 2 months, there are couple things I really don't like about the z2, it is noticeably slower, say you click on the camera icon, it doesn't come on instantaneously, the in call voice quality and speaker phone are only ok, not great, volume is a bit on the low side.
The in call quality and dim volume is a deal breaker for me, I am looking to switch to the G3 or Note 4.
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How long ago did you buy your device? Was it a newer one? I really don't want to get the g3 but it looks like I may be forced to
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It's hard for me to imagine a Sony product that isn't made of the highest quality.
When browsing around the Sony forums and other places on the net, I keep seeing the same complaints. The magnetic charging ports are falling out which is allowing water to leak into the phone, ruining the phone. The phone also shuts down after downloading a lot of data over LTE or recording with the camera, due to overheating. I also see reports of people being unable to hold conversations because one party can not hear the other.
Are these people over exaggerating or are these real complaints? I was just ready to pull the trigger on one when I started seeing all of this stuff. Can anyone chime in that has had their phone over 1 month and has ZERO issues with it? Maybe there are just a select few that got a bad batch or something.
If you post can you also please post when you bought the phone or when you think it was manufactured. Maybe we can narrow this down to a time frame or specific region.
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Lets not foget that fact that usually theres only people posting with problems. ofcourse it looks like alot problems when only they post who got issues with their phone.
im having week 20 phone without any issues.
Lawido said:
Lets not foget that fact that usually theres only people posting with problems. ofcourse it looks like alot problems when only they post who got issues with their phone.
im having week 20 phone without any issues.
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Yea I know that's why I wanted to ask around and see how many people weren't having problems. To me its got the best specs by far of any phone. I think the sound issues and maybe a bit of lag can be fixed with custom roms and what not. I just don't want to end up with the charging port popping out and then I don't realize it and go for a swim. The phone is going to cost me a lot of money and I won't have a warranty.
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Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
So how long have you had your phone? Do you use the magnetic charging connector at all?
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My advice - don't pay 600-800$ for device without warranty.
You never know..
I have device for a two months, I had Z1 (still have it) and I don't have any problems with both.
I totally agree with that post - nobody will open thread - my device is working perfectly -
All you can see here is problems and guys seeking for help but that doesn't mean it's faulty device.
As I said, I'm perfectly satisfied with Xperia Line and will buy Z3 as well...
That will be perfect device
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My advice - don't pay 600-800$ for device without warranty.
You never know..
I have device for a two months, I had Z1 (still have it) and I don't have any problems with both.
I totally agree with that post - nobody will open thread - my device is working perfectly -
All you can see here is problems and guys seeking for help but that doesn't mean it's faulty device.
As I said, I'm perfectly satisfied with Xperia Line and will buy Z3 as well...
That will be perfect device
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Im thinking about getting it and getting an aftermarket warranty like squaretrade.
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Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
So how long have you had your phone? Do you use the magnetic charging connector at all?
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i've had my phone for over 2 months batch no 14w17 no single fault works flawlessly can record 4k up to 9 mins and doesn't shut down till i turn it off myself and then the warning kicks in i reckon others having problems have conflicting apps downloaded and they just don't know it yet i use the charging dock from day one nothing has pulled out i submerge the phone in water a lot no leaks the phone does exactly what the whitepaper says i use a 64gb sandisc sdhc sd card
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i've had my phone for over 2 months batch no 14w17 no single fault works flawlessly can record 4k up to 9 mins and doesn't shut down till i turn it off myself and then the warning kicks in i reckon others having problems have conflicting apps downloaded and they just don't know it yet i use the charging dock from day one nothing has pulled out i submerge the phone in water a lot no leaks the phone does exactly what the whitepaper says i use a 64gb sandisc sdhc sd card
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Well that sounds absolutely great! I just ordered a white one from Amazon.com after reading all the great reviews on it. People are saying its the best phone they have ever used. I also picked up a charging dock. May need to get a second one but we will see. Does the phone come with a magnetic charging cable or a regular micro-USB cable?
I don't own a Z2, but what I can say is that that magnetic conector thing is half Sony's fault, half use of cheap third party cables's fault.
AFAIK, the connector wasn't meant to be used with cables, but only on stationary charging docks. The constant movement of the cable and device while using the device while charge might be the culprit to "invoke" both parties's fault I mentioned above.
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I haven't heard anything about any Z2s shutting down from overheating, the camera closing on over temp is common though. How much time it takes before it hits the set point depends on a lot of variables, but basically the higher the ambient temp and/or the more heat generation inside phone(using data, high CPU loads, continuous live view, etc) prior/during camera use will impact it. I live in a warm region and when testing I got 6min of 4k before hitting alarm.
My phone is put on a magnetic dock every night and everytime I get in my and my port is doing fine.
My phone is from week 17 and has a the of center issues but everything works fine.
I didn't add a squaretrade warranty (not sure if could since didn't add it within 30 days of purchase), if I have a warranty issue prior to the US having parts I'll just send it to it's retail country.
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Felimenta97 said:
I don't own a Z2, but what I can say is that that magnetic conector thing is half Sony's fault, half use of cheap third party cables's fault.
AFAIK, the connector wasn't meant to be used with cables, but only on stationary charging docks. The constant movement of the cable and device while using the device while charge might be the culprit to "invoke" both parties's fault I mentioned above.
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I have w17 version and i haven't encountered any defects of any kind. This phone is awesome !
I have a week 20 phone without any issues and I consider it a fantastic device! come from note 1.
I've had my Z2 for a month now and couldn't be happier. No problems with over heating (Haven't done the 4K recording thing though), plug in my magnetic charge cable overnight (well, mostly every other night - what an awesome battery!).
I immediately installed Nova and have settled on Smart Launcher pro.
Also, was too impatient for OTA .402 update, so I did that myself.
When Sony support stops, I'll probably go CM but, for the moment, it's all good.
Michael
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Just try to buy week 22 or higer (you have a little sticker that you pull out in sdcard compartment.
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Thing is how to verify this when the box is sealed.
week 22 is may 26 to jun 1
is this date printed on the bar code on the box itself ?
seh6183 said:
It's hard for me to imagine a Sony product that isn't made of the highest quality.
When browsing around the Sony forums and other places on the net, I keep seeing the same complaints. The magnetic charging ports are falling out which is allowing water to leak into the phone, ruining the phone. The phone also shuts down after downloading a lot of data over LTE or recording with the camera, due to overheating. I also see reports of people being unable to hold conversations because one party can not hear the other.
Are these people over exaggerating or are these real complaints? I was just ready to pull the trigger on one when I started seeing all of this stuff. Can anyone chime in that has had their phone over 1 month and has ZERO issues with it? Maybe there are just a select few that got a bad batch or something.
If you post can you also please post when you bought the phone or when you think it was manufactured. Maybe we can narrow this down to a time frame or specific region.
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I came to Z2 from Galaxy Note 3, before that I had HTC One.
Z2 is the best for me among the 3 devices, it is not ideal but ticks all my boxes.
I have a 14W17 and while it gets warm when recording 4K, I did not manage to overheat it. I made a test yesterday just to check out, Ireland, Dublin, around 20 degrees yesterday in the shadow. I was walking in the sun and recording for 5 minutes, 4k video with steady shot, so even more demanding for internals. The phone was warmish, but not as hot as I thought.
Afterwards I checked and the CPU temp was 61 degrees while battery temp was 37 degrees, so yes, it gets warm but not so hot.
What was making this phone really hot was the AR mode or the special effects app, that lets you put things like falling satelite, ghosts and other stuff postprocessing. Those two made the phone hot, but nothing else is able to make mine this hot and I do not care about those two modes anyway.
I would really recommend this phone but I would never buy it without any kind of warranty. I would never buy piece of electronics that is that expensive, without any kind of warranty.
Anyway, look at M8 forum, Samsung forums. Those people that are happy, usually don't praise the phone on forums, but those that have problems - do... I was really worried and almost certain, I would not buy Sony but I said oh well, let's try something new (never had Sony phone before, only sony-ericsson). I do not regret it for now, even just for battery life it was worth it for me, I don't care about waterproofness whatsoever.
Noise cancelling headphones is a great plus as well!
Z2 should be available later this year is USA I think, if not, maybe Z3?
Lawido said:
Lets not forget that fact that usually theres only people posting with problems. ofcourse it looks like alot problems when only they post who got issues with their phone.
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Exactly this, most people come to the forum are looking for help solving a problem or require specific needs but the truth is that these people are a vast minority of all the users of the phone rather than people making threads praising and complementing the device except for example if you look in the battery thread or the camera thread.
I've got a week 15 model and I love my phone, it's the best phone I've ever had, the previous phones I had that I considered the best were the Xperia X1 and the Motorola V3X.
Anyway, don't be dissuaded from the phone because of complaints you see in forums but that warranty issue, that's a bit dodgy, I wouldn't buy something if it didn't come with a guarantee or warranty.
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Thing is how to verify this when the box is sealed.
week 22 is may 26 to jun 1
is this date printed on the bar code on the box itself ?
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You should be able to inspect the device before purchasing it and if you're purchasing from an online retailer you should have 7-14 days exchange/refund as per distance selling laws (if applicable in your country) if you're not happy with it after inspection, you wouldn't buy a car without taking a look inside/giving it a test drive would you?
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Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
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I find this odd since t-mobile already offers the z2 in the US. Isn't it possible to buy off contract from sony within the US as well ?
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You should be able to inspect the device before purchasing it and if you're purchasing from an online retailer you should have 7-14 days exchange/refund as per distance selling laws (if applicable in your country) if you're not happy with it after inspection, you wouldn't buy a car without taking a look inside/giving it a test drive would you?
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Way they do it in my country is they show you a demo model that is tethered with a security cable. You can play with that one as long as you want.
Then if you decide to buy they offer you a sealed box, some may open it if there is a possibility of a sale otherwise not. Prefer to buy from a shop than online.
I understand that there is date printed on the barcode of the box itself, so wondered if there was a correlation between whats printed on the microsd tray and the box itself.
This way its much easier to distinguish newer batches from old without opening the box.
Can anyone confirm ?
I've had my fair share of smartphones, all with ups and downs, but I'd like to think that the 10 is pretty close to being the perfect phone. I want to know what you guys think, as fellow owners. I'll give you a rundown of my most recent phones that I'm comparing to.
Nexus 6p
Nexus 5x
Galaxy s7
Moto X Pure
Droid Turbo 2
Droid Turbo
Thanks for your input!! [emoji16]
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I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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charklos said:
I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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Sounds promising!! I can't wait to free my phone!!
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Being away from the android market for some time now the m9 be my return phone and 10 my current I'd say it's pretty solid. Androids come a long way since the early days.
In case you can't see below signature, I've had a handful of HTC handsets since the Incredible and tested still more. The 10 is the best they've ever put out. I'm finding it snappy; love the sound with headphones and don't mind the loss of stereo via the speaker. I don't know how I lived without a fingerprint scanner and I have always been partial to hardware buttons. I've never tried a Nexus both because they aren't always available for Verizon and they never take removable storage which is a deal breaker for me.
My first smartphone was the droid eris and i only purchased it because it was able to be s-off'ed. Then i upgraded to htc incredible 2 which was quite an upgrade, then i jumped to the SGS III. Then i bought the M8 which was a good phone, but had such a horrible camera. I think HTC nailed this phone and i never thought how much i love the fingerprint scanner. Never been a fan of encrypting a phone, but how its default now. I have to say its going pretty well. Now that sunshine has been updated to allow unlocking without mail in, I think the development will get even better. I can't wait to flash a AOSP ROM.
I'm loving it. It's definitely a step up from the m9 in my opinion. Better battery life, screen and camera. My only complaints are about the keyboard (screw TouchPal) and the audio isn't quite as loud as the m9.
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Edit: Never mind.
Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
Truly, truly the best phone I've owned in my personal opinion. I thought the Nexus 6P was fantastic until I got the HTC 10; and although the Nexus 6P is obviously cheaper, the difference in quality had me quite in shock. Only complaint is the abysmal speaker volume, miss the boomsound from the M8.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
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You can manually change the screen temperature settings.
Settings>Display, gestures & buttons>Color Profile.
I agree with you on the volume level though.
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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I think he is referring to the QC quick charge 3.0
pjd2011 said:
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- Android Auto: I don't use it so I wouldn't know, as I just use Maps.
- Sexiness: Again, preferences.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
Battery: I find battery to be great given it's only a 3000 mAh. It's not as good as my previous Droid Turbo(3900 mAh) but the QC 3.0 make up for it.
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richii0207 said:
- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
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Yeah, Quick Charge definitely makes up for any difference in battery compared to the Turbo.
As for the signal, it's definitely a rogue issue but I find myself having to enter and exit airplane mode more and more frequently to gain 4G. Usually I'd only have this problem on AOSP Roms on non-Nexus devices.
The screen randomly waking is just flat out annoying. Especially on runs. Accidentally called my CIO the other day when my phone was locked and in my pocket....Not good.
The SD card issue truly is my biggest complaints as I wanted to have this device for my music. I left on a week long vacation and just before boarding my flight I lost all my music. Incredibly annoying and it's always been set as external storage. When attempting to use internal I get the same issue (when testing).
As for the LCD I understand it's complete preference but other LCD panels I've used did not have this issue. When you're out on a boat and in the sun as much as I am you're always wearing polarized glasses. This thing is unreadable out in the daylight.
I don't have issues with signal, or really anything. I would say main grip (minimal) is Wi-Fi does drain battery more than LTE. I will say it's a lot better with custom sense Tom though.
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I'm going on my 2nd day with the HTC 10 and I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. After being a Samsung junky coming from a S7 Edge and then the Note 7 I can honestly say I am very pleased with my switch to HTC. I've owned nearly every Samsung flagship since the Note 3. Everything has been working great for me and the near AOSP compared to TouchWiz is great. The camera isn't much of a downgrade from Samsung at all and that really makes me happy. I've been using the phone caseless until mine comes in the mail tomorrow so I've really gotten a good feel for the phone. It handles well and is built nice. I S-Offed and rooted shortly after I got the phone and have zero regrets on the switch. I just wish I did it sooner and I would have saved a bunch of cash from phone switching. Nice job HTC with the build and @jcase and the team for root.
Horrible device, would definitely not recommend this to anyone. Uses a crazy amount of data that the phone doesn't seem to be registering (according to my cell phone I went through 1.2GB of data, the phone is showing 133MB). Battery life is beyond horrible (yes everything possible is disabled -- not syncing, not using photo sync, not using backup, disabled all gestures, turned off all google now/google anything services, screen is set to dim just enough to barely see it). Just using KIK for 20 minutes yesterday I lost 10% battery (no joke). Wifi is still buggy, even after the 186 firmware update. Can't tell if its Marshmallow in general or HTC's garbage services that is causing all these problems. There are so many little annoying things with the Verizon build too -- default email app doesn't resize HTML messages so everything is HUGE, the power toggle widget sucks -- you click wifi which normally turns it on/off but it instead brings you to the wifi settings where you then have to manually turn it on/off, things like this that I have to deal with daily is slowly driving me crazy. Going back to my old device until my data gets the monthly reset, then I'll try some custom ROMs to see if it helps with these issues.
Honestly, the only good feature on this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It did make me realize how much I love my little Razr M which I would go through a full day of use and still only be at 90-85% battery.