Ok, so get straight to the point. Im having huge issues with 2 proccesses Android System/Androis OS. Starting with Miui8 they are killing my battery. They dont allow phone to go into Deep Sleep Mode. When i check after 8h idle during night, in the morning, with kernel adiutor CPU frequency table i have over 40% @ lowest 400mhz and the rest is deep sleep. This is of course wrong. It should be 95% of deep sleep at least.
21% battery loss over night. Seriously ?
Anyways this is how it is (*screenshot*)
This is happening so far on all weekly updates from xioaomi.eu
Factory reset didnt help.
Antaroo said:
Ok, so get straight to the point. Im having huge issues with 2 proccesses Android System/Androis OS. Starting with Miui8 they are killing my battery. They dont allow phone to go into Deep Sleep Mode. When i check after 8h idle during night, in the morning, with kernel adiutor CPU frequency table i have over 40% @ lowest 400mhz and the rest is deep sleep. This is of course wrong. It should be 95% of deep sleep at least.
21% battery loss over night. Seriously ?
Anyways this is how it is (*screenshot*)
This is happening so far on all weekly updates from xioaomi.eu
Factory reset didnt help.
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Try to use an app called wakelock detector.
Also try to use miui power saving features.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
I tried in the past many time block all background activity. It didnt affect night drains of those 2 proccesses
I have wakelock detector and i know whats causing battery drain. Read above
Antaroo said:
I have wakelock detector and i know whats causing battery drain. Read above
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Nah, those are just battery usage stats. They are the same as in the settings.
Wakelock detector will let you what exactly is keeping your cpu active.
are you talking about "wakelock detector" app from playstore ? if so, i use it
Antaroo said:
are you talking about "wakelock detector" app from playstore ? if so, i use it
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Yes. Exactly.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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Hi,
is there any app for deep sleep? whats the difference between normal and deep sleep mode?
thx
kami2k said:
Hi,
is there any app for deep sleep?
CPU Spy
whats the difference between normal and deep sleep mode?
One is normal one is deeper almost shutoff .
jje
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JUST USE CPU SPY
NORMAL SLEEP= FAST UNLOCK, AND ALMOST EVERYTHING STILL RUNNING
DEEP SLEEP= IT'S LIKE WHEN A LAPTOP HIBERNATE'S AFTER YOU LEAVE IT FOR AWHILE
cpu spy just shows which time which freq is used, how to activite the deep sleep, my question is that
How to 'activate' deep sleep ? Turn your screen off & leave your phone alone, when it's 'idling', it should be in deep sleep the majority of the time unless you have WiFi running or something else that's using the phone's resources.
You can't activate deep sleep as such.
If you find your phone isn't in deep sleep when it should be, there might be apps causing wakelocks which stop it entering deep sleep. If you suspect that's the case, install BetterBatteryStats & allow your phone to run normally for 8-10 hrs/overnight before you have a look at the stats in BBS.
If they show you've got wakelocks stopping the phone from sleeping, read the BBS thread on here. Info in the thread might be able to help you identify these wakelocks & perhaps eliminate or reduce them. There are also people who post to that thread a lot that might be able to help you identify/eliminate these.
One thing tho, you say you've used CPU Spy, what are the figures you're getting out of CPU SPY when you leave the phone idling/doing nothing with the screen off for say, an hour ?
i am getting 71% 200Mhz deep sleep 0%, 12% 500Mhz etc, can you send me the link of bbs please?
thx
kami2k said:
i am getting 71% 200Mhz deep sleep 0%, 12% 500Mhz etc, can you send me the link of bbs please?
thx
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Google/search XDA for Better Battery Stats thread .
jje
Exactly. Unless you're deaf, blind & have no limbs, use the search function :-|
lolololol thankzzzzzzzzz
INSTALL THIS
AND THEN JUST BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN YOUR POCKET CLICK THE WIDGET, YOU WILL BE IN DEEP SLEEP IN 5 MINS TOP
thx and also please write few profiles u i can use
thx
Sry never used the app before, i just read the review. But you should have your cpu as close as possible to 100-200, or 200-500 if your kernel is stock, when you want to go into deep sleep
Check this link for Better Battery Stats http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=betterbaterystats
I'm having this issue of my phone not sleeping when the phone is off. I checked kernel wakelocks and the number 1 culprit is Power Manager Service. Anybody have any idea what this is. A distant second is wlan_rx_wake but I'm not too worried about this.
The devs are working on it. If you aren't on the latest CM9 build then you should update.
GrayTheWolf said:
The devs are working on it. If you aren't on the latest CM9 build then you should update.
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I'm actually not on AOSP stuff. I'm on one of Neo's roms.
Edit: I just ran a test and for 34 minutes the phone slept for 33 of them. Even though the phone lost 4 percent of battery in that time. I see people saying they have crazy good battery drain rates (like .25%/hr). I thought i would get better life but I guess thats just the way it is.
jdm2008315 said:
I'm actually not on AOSP stuff. I'm on one of Neo's roms.
Edit: I just ran a test and for 34 minutes the phone slept for 33 of them. Even though the phone lost 4 percent of battery in that time. I see people saying they have crazy good battery drain rates (like .25%/hr). I thought i would get better life but I guess thats just the way it is.
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that rate is based on usage. keeping apps from starting. keeping apps running in foreground all the time. lots of frozen unnecessary apps. screen brightness between 10-20%. betterbatterystats monitors wakelocks
dyetheskin said:
that rate is based on usage. keeping apps from starting. keeping apps running in foreground all the time. lots of frozen unnecessary apps. screen brightness between 10-20%. betterbatterystats monitors wakelocks
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When saying .25% per hour I was talking about during sleep but I get 3-4% during sleep. I am going to try and wipe everything and start from scratch. But if my phone is sleeping >90% of the time when the screen is off, there's not much I can do to improve battery drain during sleep no(app wise), and screen brightness won't help at this level cause it's when the screen is off?
have to watch for partial wakelocks or any wakelocks. apps automatically starting when not needed or still running will reduce your amount of deep sleep. use betterbatterystats to monitor usage while it's off
I just got my G3 yesterday but the battery drains so quickly. I rooted and added BBS and there are so many sensors and such kept awake. In just wanted to see if anyone has a clue,what I should do to contain these.
tomkins0752 said:
I just got my G3 yesterday but the battery drains so quickly. I rooted and added BBS and there are so many sensors and such kept awake. In just wanted to see if anyone has a clue,what I should do to contain these.
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Kernel wakelocks don't keep the device awake per se. Those are processes that run when the screen is on. That's why the duration of all of them is almost the same. There's not going to be much you can do about those until/if custom kernels come along. You can try a factory reset, though I don't think it will help.
You should focus on partial wakelocks since those keep the CPU on when the screen is off.
hawkswind1 said:
Kernel wakelocks don't keep the device awake per se. Those are processes that run when the screen is on. That's why the duration of all of them is almost the same. There's not going to be much you can do about those until/if custom kernels come along. You can try a factory reset, though I don't think it will help.
You should focus on partial wakelocks since those keep the CPU on when the screen is off.
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This list for kernel wakelocks goes on for a while. The partial wakelocks are minimal, but whatever is causing these kernel wakelocks is whats causing the device to get warm, and subsequently draining the battery at an accelerated rate (roughly 7%+ per hour with minimal usage.)
I have never before seen such an extensive list from BBS on any of my other devices. Usually its the accumulator of all the partial wakelocks at the top of the list of kernel wakelocks by a large margin.
tomkins0752 said:
This list for kernel wakelocks goes on for a while. The partial wakelocks are minimal, but whatever is causing these kernel wakelocks is whats causing the device to get warm, and subsequently draining the battery at an accelerated rate (roughly 7%+ per hour with minimal usage.)
I have never before seen such an extensive list from BBS on any of my other devices. Usually its the accumulator of all the partial wakelocks at the top of the list of kernel wakelocks by a large margin.
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I'm with you. Been searching around for things I can freeze/hibernate to minimize wakelocks. Like stated earlier though we really need a custom kernel to get rid of a lot of those Kernel ones. The Partials aren't really that bad.
I have only had this phone since earlier today though so I'm keeping my eye on BBS like you are
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This phone does seemto have a ridiculous abou amount of activity going on. I had the dreaded (nlpcollectorwakelock) battery drain my first day but a reset took care of it. My battery had since calmed down and I'm getting good sot now. My android os stays at around 14-20%as well but a long as my sot is decent I'm not stressing anymore
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Yea mine is only draining at around 3% am hour with my use according to BBS.
That's just on WiFi and doing some browsing + Tapatalk+ a little YouTube.... So I can't complain.
It'll take a few charge cycles plus keeping an eye what else I can freeze and hibernate.
Considering the display on this thing that's pretty good I'm happy.... Be a little happier with a SaberMod ROM and Kernel though [emoji2]
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tomkins0752 said:
I just got my G3 yesterday but the battery drains so quickly. I rooted and added BBS and there are so many sensors and such kept awake. In just wanted to see if anyone has a clue,what I should do to contain these.
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My battery life is just as good as on my G2. Under normal (moderate/moderate-heavy) use I can get a day out of it easily. Yesterday I went to bed with about 44% left after over 13 hours use (with 2.75 hours of screen-on time).
I would recommend using CPU Spy to make sure the phone is going into Deep Sleep. There might be some process keeping it at a higher functioning state and not allowing the phone to hit Deep Sleep. For the most part, the phone should be in Deep Sleep longer than any other processor state.
I think a factory reset is in order. If that does not help you might just have a bad device, or a bad battery.
mrhumble1 said:
My battery life is just as good as on my G2. Under normal (moderate/moderate-heavy) use I can get a day out of it easily. Yesterday I went to bed with about 44% left after over 13 hours use (with 2.75 hours of screen-on time).
I would recommend using CPU Spy to make sure the phone is going into Deep Sleep. There might be some process keeping it at a higher functioning state and not allowing the phone to hit Deep Sleep. For the most part, the phone should be in Deep Sleep longer than any other processor state.
I think a factory reset is in order. If that does not help you might just have a bad device, or a bad battery.
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My phone is showing a huge number of sensors wakelocking the phone, and it was only in deep sleep 17% of the time since I unplugged it 6 hours ago. That kernel wakelock for the sensors needs to be fixed and then our battery life will be stupid good. You can't get as much screen on time on the G3 as I do on my G2. I was getting up to 10 hours of screen on time on my G2 the best i've managed was 3.5 on the G3. However, custom kernels will probably help there.
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My phone is showing a huge number of sensors wakelocking the phone, and it was only in deep sleep 17% of the time since I unplugged it 6 hours ago. That kernel wakelock for the sensors needs to be fixed and then our battery life will be stupid good. You can't get as much screen on time on the G3 as I do on my G2. I was getting up to 10 hours of screen on time on my G2 the best i've managed was 3.5 on the G3. However, custom kernels will probably help there.
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The Sensor WakeLocks are quite ridiculous indeed, but what is your phone showing for Partial WakeLocks and Alarms in Better Battery Stats???
Only way I could get mine under control was to use App Ops to limit Google Play Services to NOT keep my phone Awake.
Then I located COM.LGE.IMS and disabled its Receivers then froze it.
Then I Greenify everything possible lol
That Com.LGE.ims thing was waking my phone like crazy, maybe 50-100 times an hour if I remember correctly and I don't even use the feature its tied into... WiFi Calling
- Sent From My G3
Hello,
Greenify is putting my device into deep sleep for more than 90% of the time usually. However, I seem to be suffering from battery drainage while screen is off, around 2-3% per hour while the device is supposed to be sleeping.
Any ideas how to monitor the cause for that?
I'm using a non rooted S7.
Thanks!
Ilangabay said:
Hello,
Greenify is putting my device into deep sleep for more than 90% of the time usually. However, I seem to be suffering from battery drainage while screen is off, around 2-3% per hour while the device is supposed to be sleeping.
Any ideas how to monitor the cause for that?
I'm using a non rooted S7.
Thanks!
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Install BetterBatteryStats (BBS) app and you can monitor the drain. For further details, visit the BBS thread in XDA.
tnsmani said:
Install BetterBatteryStats (BBS) app and you can monitor the drain. For further details, visit the BBS thread in XDA.
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Thanks, but this app requires root...
Any way to monitor without rooting?
Ilangabay said:
Thanks, but this app requires root...
Any way to monitor without rooting?
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BBS most definitely does not require root. Depending on ROM you may have to grant permissions to access battery stats via ADB. If that's not viable try GSAM which is also available in the Play Store (and well regarded).
Just reinstall. It happens to me sometimes, so I just reinstall and put all of my settings again, I think aggressive doze sometimes fail, and hey I only have 1% drain for like almost 20 hours of idling with amplify
Davey126 said:
BBS most definitely does not require root. Depending on ROM you may have to grant permissions to access battery stats via ADB. If that's not viable try GSAM which is also available in the Play Store (and well regarded).
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Thanks for the recommendation.
GSam reported "combined App CPU" as responsible for the drain.
I will follow the instructions on "enabling battery stats" using DAB etc. and will update if I find the cause.
Star Dust said:
Just reinstall. It happens to me sometimes, so I just reinstall and put all of my settings again, I think aggressive doze sometimes fail, and hey I only have 1% drain for like almost 20 hours of idling with amplify
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1% per 20 hrs is a dream, I leave it overnight and waking up with 15% less!
I will follow your advice and update.
Thank you!
Yeah, I hope you achieve it too. Just with greenify and amplify, you can achieve it.
Hi,
I left the device overnight with Greenify + Aggressive doze enabled, and monitored performance with GSam battery monitor.
The device is was deep sleep for 98% of the time.
HOWEVER, it lost 9% overnight. (1.5%/h) I don't understand how is it possible.
According to GSam, the drainage is mostly related to the "Android System" and "Kernel (Android OS)" processes.
Any idea why these apps are so active while in deep sleep?
Thanks,
Ilangabay said:
Hi,
I left the device overnight with Greenify + Aggressive doze enabled, and monitored performance with GSam battery monitor.
The device is was deep sleep for 98% of the time.
HOWEVER, it lost 9% overnight. (1.5%/h) I don't understand how is it possible.
According to GSam, the drainage is mostly related to the "Android System" and "Kernel (Android OS)" processes.
Any idea why these apps are so active while in deep sleep?
Thanks,
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Both are core Android processes; some activity is expected when the device is idle (your heart still beats while sleeping). The accelerated loss is likely due to a failing battery, poor radio reception or rogue radio/sensor that fails to go into a low power mode. Repeat the test in airplane mode to rule out signal strength issues.
Davey126 said:
Both are core Android processes; some activity is expected when the device is idle (your heart still beats while sleeping). The accelerated loss is likely due to a failing battery, poor radio reception or rogue radio/sensor that fails to go into a low power mode. Repeat the test in airplane mode to rule out signal strength issues.
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Thanks for your input, Davey126.
I switched to airplane mode (wifi off) with device almost untouched. Drain dropped from 1.6%/hour to 0.8%/hour. It is a lot, but still draining to much, even in airplane mode.
I would appreciate an advice on how to monitor the cause.
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Thanks for your input, Davey126.
I switched to airplane mode (wifi off) with device almost untouched. Drain dropped from 1.6%/hour to 0.8%/hour. It is a lot, but still draining to much, even in airplane mode.
I would appreciate an advice on how to monitor the cause.
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you should ask in your forums, this is not the place for specific device battery issues.
Xperia Z5 line devices drained 1%/h on airplane during night (deep sleep), but it was just Sony lollipop issue solved by marshmallow firmwares. If it's a stock kernel issue then there's nothing you can do, usually. But you should ask other users with the same device to see if you share the same situation.
Got it, thanks.
Putting aside device specific questions:
How do you monitor the amount of power different sensors use overnight, and whether they enter low power mode or not?
Thanks.
Ilangabay said:
Putting aside device specific questions:
How do you monitor the amount of power different sensors use overnight, and whether they enter low power mode or not?
Thanks.
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BBS (Better Battery Stats) is probably the best choice for capabilities and community support. They said, it will not provide the granularity you seek (sensor power consumption) but can offer clues to misbehaving sensors.
Davey126 said:
BBS (Better Battery Stats) is probably the best choice for capabilities and community support. They said, it will not provide the granularity you seek (sensor power consumption) but can offer clues to misbehaving sensors.
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Thanks,
Will look into that app thoroughly,
It's driving me mad!!!
How to fix battery idle drain on poco f1 and i'm using miui 11.0.9 and ngk kernel(1.5.5) .And SOT 5-6h .Or sleeping time battery drain so bad 6-7h sleep and battery used 15-20% .
NGK APK (latest) :- ngk profile:- Battery saving mode.
plz HELP me ...
How is your SoT so low? Unless you game a lot it should be significantly higher. In crDroid 6.9 with stock OD kernel I am averaging 10 hours. No gaming other than casual ones. Airtel isn't good in my locality. Previously with Idea it was around the 12 hr mark. I have used NGK for 2-3 months and it also used to deliver good battery backup.
Idle drain has been an issue but nothing as high as yours. Normally 0.5-0.8%/h. With NGK it was a bit lower IIRC. I am using BitGApps which enables Battery Optimization for Google Play Services. Helps in idle drain a bit.
Install Better Battery Stats and check if any rogue apps are keeping the device awake unnecessarily. Recently I went through a 3 week period where idle drain was really bad, 3-4%/h. After blocking a bunch of wakelocks like qcom-step-chg, IPA RM_12 etc it was back to normal.
amn1987 said:
How is your SoT so low? Unless you game a lot it should be significantly higher. In crDroid 6.9 with stock OD kernel I am averaging 10 hours. No gaming other than casual ones. Airtel isn't good in my locality. Previously with Idea it was around the 12 hr mark. I have used NGK for 2-3 months and it also used to deliver good battery backup.
Idle drain has been an issue but nothing as high as yours. Normally 0.5-0.8%/h. With NGK it was a bit lower IIRC. I am using BitGApps which enables Battery Optimization for Google Play Services. Helps in idle drain a bit.
Install Better Battery Stats and check if any rogue apps are keeping the device awake unnecessarily. Recently I went through a 3 week period where idle drain was really bad, 3-4%/h. After blocking a bunch of wakelocks like qcom-step-chg, IPA RM_12 etc it was back to normal.
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How did you blocked wakelocks?
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How did you blocked wakelocks?
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I am using Smartpack Kernel manager for the same. But the kernel must also have support for blocking wakelocks built-in.
There's also a Magisk module Wakeblocker? which should work independently of kernel support but I didn't have any success with it.
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I am using Smartpack Kernel manager for the same. But the kernel must also have support for blocking wakelocks built-in.
There's also a Magisk module Wakeblocker? which should work independently of kernel support but I didn't have any success with it.
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ok ill try it! thanks
btw can you mention some more of those that you have blocked for the screen off/sleep draining? did u know what were for..did you had any troubles after...?something that didnt worked properly? thanks!