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I've attached 2 pics, it seems my batt drain is terrible. Anyway to fix it? I used cfs due to its stability.
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amosng1 said:
I've attached 2 pics, it seems my batt drain is terrible. Anyway to fix it? I used cfs due to its stability.
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As I see, your rom is 2,2 android? Try to read this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185241 download the BetterBatteryStats app and check which process or wakelock is draining your battery. If its DataTracker-FD wake lock, than it seems that 2,3 and 2,2 android is having Fast Dormancy issue..
I'm experiencing heavy battery drain. I installed betterbatterystats and found out that AlarmManager is keeping my device awake. What to do? Running CM7 6.6
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I've attached 2 pics, it seems my batt drain is terrible. Anyway to fix it? I used cfs due to its stability.
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I can say just by looking at your screenshots that u run too many background apps and widgets... try removing all of them and watch your battery drain.
I used to experience high battery drain and that was because the miriad of little apps running in background. They don't let your phone sleep, even when the screen is off.
Now my phone's battery lasts for at least 40 hours and that's with heavy Wi-fi, some 2G/3G, some gamming and music. About 1-2% battery drain per hour on idle and that's because I still run some widgets (and gmaps). Right now it's marking 53 hours and still at 27%, but thats 'cause I'm home on my PC.
Edit: Oh! Also just noted u use franco.kernel 18.1... get rid of it, it's been reported by many users (me included) that it causes battery drain. Get back to 18.0.
I could revert but I forgot the changes from v18 to v18. 1 " anyone can kindly tell me?
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drakull said:
I can say just by looking at your screenshots that u run too many background apps and widgets... try removing all of them and watch your battery drain.
I used to experience high battery drain and that was because the miriad of little apps running in background. They don't let your phone sleep, even when the screen is off.
Now my phone's battery lasts for at least 40 hours and that's with heavy Wi-fi, some 2G/3G, some gamming and music. About 1-2% battery drain per hour on idle and that's because I still run some widgets (and gmaps). Right now it's marking 53 hours and still at 27%, but thats 'cause I'm home on my PC.
Edit: Oh! Also just noted u use franco.kernel 18.1... get rid of it, it's been reported by many users (me included) that it causes battery drain. Get back to 18.0.
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Can you please let me know what are the settings you've on your phone? I have Mik's CM7 with Franco's kernel v18. OC 748/245 Smartass. Auto-sync turned OFF. Only 2G networks. Brighntess 40%. Not having a lot of apps. Set Auto-refresh to "No" in apps like Facebook and Twitter. So basically no app tries to connect to internet unless I turn them ON manually. Only Google search, digital clock and power control widgets. No gaming and almost no music.
With all these I'm able to get around 30 hrs of battery life with moderate usage and 20 hrs of battery life with heavy usage, mainly Wifi. How do you manage to get so much battery life? Can you please let me know your configuration and the other settings as well?
Thanks in advance.
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I could revert but I forgot the changes from v18 to v18. 1 " anyone can kindly tell me?
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That's unnecessary and useless to downgrade. Mik's 6.6, franco's gingerbread kernel and scary governor, you get unbeatable battery life. Unfortunately you get some bugs too for now but mik's back and andy's working on his new rom so soon you'll see those bugs squashed.
try use v18 bfs franco kernel
How you guys get even 2 days of battery??
I am tired of tryin gall the combinations of settings / kernel / ROMS nothing has helped till date.
I am not able to get battery for a complete day. Freaking it drains it off in 9-10 hours.
There are users who are getting 2 days of battery with wifi/edge on at all the time, with overclocked phone, and many other options enabled. But I am not getting any of these.
My usage includes
* 1-2 hrs of music
* 1-2 hrs of edge
* frequent texting but can be summarized for 1 hr in a day.
* hardly 10-30 mins of calls
* 10-30mins of games
CyanogenMatt 1.1
franco kernel 19.4 gbs v18cfs
InteractiveX 480-600 mhz
all this is normal and way below average usage but still I am not able to get battery life. I hate recharging the phone after every few hours. Have searched forums tried suggestion but nothing worked.
Maybe I am choosing wrong combination of ROM / kernel , I have gone complete clueless now, any help or suggestion is welcome.
droidevil said:
How you guys get even 2 days of battery??
I am tired of tryin gall the combinations of settings / kernel / ROMS nothing has helped till date.
I am not able to get battery for a complete day. Freaking it drains it off in 9-10 hours.
There are users who are getting 2 days of battery with wifi/edge on at all the time, with overclocked phone, and many other options enabled. But I am not getting any of these.
My usage includes
* 1-2 hrs of music
* 1-2 hrs of edge
* frequent texting but can be summarized for 1 hr in a day.
* hardly 10-30 mins of calls
* 10-30mins of games
CyanogenMatt 1.1
franco kernel 19.4 gbs v18cfs
InteractiveX 480-600 mhz
all this is normal and way below average usage but still I am not able to get battery life. I hate recharging the phone after every few hours. Have searched forums tried suggestion but nothing worked.
Maybe I am choosing wrong combination of ROM / kernel , I have gone complete clueless now, any help or suggestion is welcome.
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It is because of usage patterns. Based on your usage, I think its normally for your battery to drain just like that.
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Thanks for replying terratrix,
but users are using continuous wi-fi and get a complete day of battery, I dont even use that. AFAIK wi-fi uses more battery than EDGE. Can you suggest me proper ROM+kernel combination?
I installed cyanogenmatt 1.1 thinking it would improve battery life but it didnt.
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Thanks for replying terratrix,
but users are using continuous wi-fi and get a complete day of battery, I dont even use that. AFAIK wi-fi uses more battery than EDGE. Can you suggest me proper ROM+kernel combination?
I installed cyanogenmatt 1.1 thinking it would improve battery life but it didnt.
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Well theta because they are using the phone less often. You are wrong , wifi consumes far less battery than edge. Wifi on standby drains minimal battery.
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It's mostly about background tasks. Install supercharger and a task killer to kill your tasks on screen off. Then disable unneeded autostarting applications with Gemini or Autostarts. This way I get about 1% battery for 4 hours without using my phone. And I strongly advice you to use 480/YourMaxStable with SmartassV2 as Smartass automatically manages the current CPU frequency. Your brightness should be between 25 and 50%. And also disable any unused at the moment radio (including mobile data).
how would I disable radio?
do you mean not using radio is disable it??
Well here's how my phone goes on for 2 days
android assistant app for cleaning memory every 10 minutes and for killing apps on startup
Advanced task killer for killing tasks(set on auto kill)
Antutu power saver which has some good features(puts phone on flight mode at night for few hours)
or use juice defender(has extra features)
try keeping edge/3g/wi-fi/bluetooth/gps off when not using(saves a lot of battery)
reduced brightness(40-50%)
and keep screen off when not in use
also keep OC freq at 729/480 its the best know OC for our phone performance and battery wise
and InteractiveX is well know for battery saving
(i prefer on-demand because of performance and gaming )
the above things help me use my phone for 2 days or i must say 1&1/2 day
with 4-5 hours gaming(3d HD games)
1-2hours browsing the net
few messages and calls here and there
on a full charge and normal usage at the end of the day i have phone battery at 40-50%
A radio is basically a wireless I/O device. GPS, Bluetooth, Baseband, WiFi, FM... - these are different types of radios. They drain power when powered on so if you want battery life you should simply disable the ones that you aren't using at the moment.
@viv_jen: There is no need to autokill every 10 minutes if you don't have unneeded autostart applications. Task managers also drain battery if used too often. It's also a good idea to use the long-press back key feature of CyanogenMod (It kills the currently visible task).
To pitch in my 2 cents worth,
I've found wifi uses quite a bit less than edge/3g data on this particular phone.
This phone has shocking battery life, even for a smartphone.
What you are getting seems about normal for your usage. My battery will be between 20 and 30% after 4 hours of music and 3g browsing. Once I stop doing these things it goes down at about 2% an hour on wifi, about 3% an hour on 2g, and 5% an hour on 3g. I ended up keeping my charge cable on me when I go places and actively use the phone, and "topping up" the battery when I'm sitting at a desk or whatever.
thank you guys for valuable inputs,
could the combination of ROM + kernel also help?
I tried cyanogenmatt + goldenleaf after some of the user suggested that it gives enough battery.
I also heard void gives a good battery.
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I also heard void gives a good battery.
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yep it does
for me atleast
@nogav: WiFi drain depends mostly on Tx (Transmit) power. Mostly we receive information from the internet (Which means Rx is way more important than Tx), so after running a few speed tests (Speedtest.net app) at each option avaliable at the Wifi Tx Power app from market I found out that internet speed at a Tx power of 4dBm is roughtly the same as for 32dBm. Also, our device only supports 801.11b/g mode, so internet speed isn't the best thing about Optimus One (Excluding HDSPA).
@droidevil: The thing that drains most battery is Stagefright. It is able to play 520p mp4 videos almost smoothly, but it is a battery killer. Hardware acceleration also increases performance at the cost of battery, but it is reasonably balanced. Other things that depend on roms: number of preinstalled apps. Deodexed apps load faster, and the less of them there are, the faster the phone boots and runs. If you have about 100-200 programs installed, Autostarts, Advanced Task Killer and Supercharger are likely to be used.
thank you guys for your useful information..
Just raised all urs thanks meter for helping me out..
Well I have installed android assistant set to auto kill on every 10 mins.
Installed gemini and stopped the apps which are set to open on boot.
brightness is the minimum
480-728mhz with InteractiveX
so far 12 hours have passed by and have 50% left
Normal texting, gprs browsing, music no games though.
Lets see how far can I pull it off.
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Well I have installed android assistant set to auto kill on every 10 mins.
Installed gemini and stopped the apps which are set to open on boot.
brightness is the minimum
480-728mhz with InteractiveX
so far 12 hours have passed by and have 50% left
Normal texting, gprs browsing, music no games though.
Lets see how far can I pull it off.
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Nonono, don't use autokill, they are just crap, not needed, they drain more battery.
I have installed void forever to see whether it helps in battery performance.
The ROM itself is very fast, just wondering which kernel will best suit the rom to give the desired battery performance.
Any suggestions please..!!!!!
My LG optimus v running iho cm7 only gets about two hours of battery through normal use.
droidevil said:
I have installed void forever to see whether it helps in battery performance.
The ROM itself is very fast, just wondering which kernel will best suit the rom to give the desired battery performance.
Any suggestions please..!!!!!
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franco
and use interactiveX governor(if you want for battery)
franco's CFS / BFS?
I have read around that fserve's kernel also gives good battery...
IMHO, actually your battery drain is actually pretty good for a usage like that, I am using more or less the usage of yours and everyday I have to charge.
Ok, so get straight to the point. Im having huge issues with 2 proccesses Android System/Androis OS. Starting with Miui8 they are killing my battery. They dont allow phone to go into Deep Sleep Mode. When i check after 8h idle during night, in the morning, with kernel adiutor CPU frequency table i have over 40% @ lowest 400mhz and the rest is deep sleep. This is of course wrong. It should be 95% of deep sleep at least.
21% battery loss over night. Seriously ?
Anyways this is how it is (*screenshot*)
This is happening so far on all weekly updates from xioaomi.eu
Factory reset didnt help.
Antaroo said:
Ok, so get straight to the point. Im having huge issues with 2 proccesses Android System/Androis OS. Starting with Miui8 they are killing my battery. They dont allow phone to go into Deep Sleep Mode. When i check after 8h idle during night, in the morning, with kernel adiutor CPU frequency table i have over 40% @ lowest 400mhz and the rest is deep sleep. This is of course wrong. It should be 95% of deep sleep at least.
21% battery loss over night. Seriously ?
Anyways this is how it is (*screenshot*)
This is happening so far on all weekly updates from xioaomi.eu
Factory reset didnt help.
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Try to use an app called wakelock detector.
Also try to use miui power saving features.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
I tried in the past many time block all background activity. It didnt affect night drains of those 2 proccesses
I have wakelock detector and i know whats causing battery drain. Read above
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I have wakelock detector and i know whats causing battery drain. Read above
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Nah, those are just battery usage stats. They are the same as in the settings.
Wakelock detector will let you what exactly is keeping your cpu active.
are you talking about "wakelock detector" app from playstore ? if so, i use it
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are you talking about "wakelock detector" app from playstore ? if so, i use it
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Yes. Exactly.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
No matter how many forums and threads there is no solution to be found for this massive battery drainage. stock rom vs poison with greenify, underclock, tweaks, lower brightness, other mods, and the battery is exactly THE SAME in both. Draining massivly. I have 60% now, 2 minutes ago when I was browsing in mozzila I had 66%. Also draining when screen off. I kept using the battery with same patterns for a lot of days, adaptive charging doesn't seem to help.. Any solution??
Go back to stock with fastboot and see how it goes.
There's probably a much more convoluted solution out there but it would probably be too much hassle.
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FoxTheLegend said:
No matter how many forums and threads there is no solution to be found for this massive battery drainage. stock rom vs poison with greenify, underclock, tweaks, lower brightness, other mods, and the battery is exactly THE SAME in both. Draining massivly. I have 60% now, 2 minutes ago when I was browsing in mozzila I had 66%. Also draining when screen off. I kept using the battery with same patterns for a lot of days, adaptive charging doesn't seem to help.. Any solution??
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Me too i'm getting out of battery pretty fast, im on the xperia concept rom maybe if i flash back to stock rom it may get better i haven't tried it
chinoquezada said:
Go back to stock with fastboot and see how it goes.
There's probably a much more convoluted solution out there but it would probably be too much hassle.
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Me too i'm getting out of battery pretty fast, im on the xperia concept rom maybe if i flash back to stock rom it may get better i haven't tried it
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Hi guys. Sorry for slow reply. I have tried going back to stock rom and other different roms. No difference. You see the weird part is that the battery lasts the same no matter what you do, stamina mode? same. Nothing running on background ? same. New thing happened: After the poison 7 rom in battery settings ann option "battery care" appeared. I turned it on to see what it does. Only after some weeks it decided to pop up when I plugged my phone to charge. It said something like "Battery Care active. Your phone will be fully charged in 5 p.m Tuesday (example) while it is still Monday 3 p.m. Should I listen to battery care and leave the phone plugged in for 1 day or not? (no matter if it reaches 100%).
This is a bit irrelevant but I am asking just in case: Is your phone too charging very fast ? I have the basic charger (not the fast charge) and I believe my phone is being charged a bit too fast
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This is a bit irrelevant but I am asking just in case: Is your phone too charging very fast ? I have the basic charger (not the fast charge) and I believe my phone is being charged a bit too fast
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Me too i have the normal charger included in the box and it takes about 2 hours from 20ish to 90ish % if i plug it to a usb 3.0 port it takes about 1:30hr to charge from about the same
Battery Care is a nice app if you charge your phone overnight.It limits the duration of your battery charged to 100% by charging rapidly to 90% until a half hour or so before you wake up. To do so it needs to learn your charging habits first. Supposedly this prolongs your battery life. Attached an example. You can see it charges rapidly as well.
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Battery Care is a nice app if you charge your phone overnight.It limits the duration of your battery charged to 100% by charging rapidly to 90% until a half hour or so before you wake up. To do so it needs to learn your charging habits first. Supposedly this prolongs your battery life. Attached an example. You can see it charges rapidly as well.
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I see. Thanks for the info. I will try it if just saying. IF it can fix my battery problem. Probably it has nothing to do with it though
FoxTheLegend said:
I see. Thanks for the info. I will try it if just saying. IF it can fix my battery problem. Probably it has nothing to do with it though
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I agree it is unrelated. Since your battery problem seems independent on the rom, a few options are left: a rogue app that you always install, something related to your Google account, or a hardware problem.
chinoquezada said:
Go back to stock with fastboot and see how it goes.
There's probably a much more convoluted solution out there but it would probably be too much hassle.
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Wingartz85 said:
Me too i'm getting out of battery pretty fast, im on the xperia concept rom maybe if i flash back to stock rom it may get better i haven't tried it
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I agree it is unrelated. Since your battery problem seems independent on the rom, a few options are left: a rogue app that you always install, something related to your Google account, or a hardware problem.
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Is it worth it to try going back to stock again and also unrooting? Or relocking the bootloader? I thought of an app but the only thing that it could really be are the google services , the play store. Messenger doesnt seem to drain much and makes a minimal difference, and with the app we mentioned above I didn't find absolutely anything draining the battery apart from screen and OS (it could also be more than normal)
I did all the trip concept-stock-concept and it seems it is an app right now I'm getting almost the day through and have 20ish of battery, it was easier in my case because I didn't unlocked bootloader or rooted, so might try a full clean reinstall to your phone
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Is it worth it to try going back to stock again and also unrooting? Or relocking the bootloader? I thought of an app but the only thing that it could really be are the google services , the play store. Messenger doesnt seem to drain much and makes a minimal difference, and with the app we mentioned above I didn't find absolutely anything draining the battery apart from screen and OS (it could also be more than normal)
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I'm currently also having massive battery drain(6% an hour) I tried stock rom, Posion rom and concept rom, sadly all with the same result. I use grenify & fordoze but somehow my phone wont 'doze'/go into deep sleep. I installed better battery stats to check out the problem. On a normal day(one charge) the sumery of better batter stats look like this:
deep sleep 7 hours / awake(screen off) 5.5 hours / screen on 1.5 hours
when i look to kernel wakelocks there is one that is always on top of the list:
bluesleep 5.2 hours 243 wakelocks
Also under alarms there is a suspect:
com.google.android.gms: 864 alarms 1/min
So there are some strange things happening on my phone... really wondering if you got the same wakelocks/alarms as I do
I use greenify and HEBF. Same story here, it seems like nothing changes with battery life. Crazy, only 1,5 hours? My average now is 3. I haven't checked the drainage when screen is off but I did notice similar drains to yours. I think we're in the same boat. I will tell you about the wakelocks, haven't looked into that yet
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I'm currently also having massive battery drain(6% an hour) I tried stock rom, Posion rom and concept rom, sadly all with the same result. I use grenify & fordoze but somehow my phone wont 'doze'/go into deep sleep. I installed better battery stats to check out the problem. On a normal day(one charge) the sumery of better batter stats look like this:
deep sleep 7 hours / awake(screen off) 5.5 hours / screen on 1.5 hours
when i look to kernel wakelocks there is one that is always on top of the list:
bluesleep 5.2 hours 243 wakelocks
Also under alarms there is a suspect:
com.google.android.gms: 864 alarms 1/min
So there are some strange things happening on my phone... really wondering if you got the same wakelocks/alarms as I do
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Hmm.. very odd. I cant really find anything not normal
kistigun said:
I'm currently also having massive battery drain(6% an hour) I tried stock rom, Posion rom and concept rom, sadly all with the same result. I use grenify & fordoze but somehow my phone wont 'doze'/go into deep sleep. I installed better battery stats to check out the problem. On a normal day(one charge) the sumery of better batter stats look like this:
deep sleep 7 hours / awake(screen off) 5.5 hours / screen on 1.5 hours
when i look to kernel wakelocks there is one that is always on top of the list:
bluesleep 5.2 hours 243 wakelocks
Also under alarms there is a suspect:
com.google.android.gms: 864 alarms 1/min
So there are some strange things happening on my phone... really wondering if you got the same wakelocks/alarms as I do
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I've just received my phone for just one day. Backup my TA partition, unlock bootloader and use rootkernel tool to root my devices. I'm using the .331 version stock ROM. Just then I installed the ElementalX app on play store, and surprisingly found that the cpu frequency statistics show that the phone is always on the max freq. So I changed the cpu governor to interactive governor. Haven't test battery time yet. Hope you know this issue, if you have the same problem.
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FoxTheLegend said:
I use greenify and HEBF. Same story here, it seems like nothing changes with battery life. Crazy, only 1,5 hours? My average now is 3. I haven't checked the drainage when screen is off but I did notice similar drains to yours. I think we're in the same boat. I will tell you about the wakelocks, haven't looked into that yet
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I'm wondering if you've check the cpu freq statistics. See my post above. If that's the common issue, than the stock rom maybe has trouble dealing with the cpu governor problem.
angusdwhite said:
I've just received my phone for just one day. Backup my TA partition, unlock bootloader and use rootkernel tool to root my devices. I'm using the .331 version stock ROM. Just then I installed the ElementalX app on play store, and surprisingly found that the cpu frequency statistics show that the phone is always on the max freq. So I changed the cpu governor to interactive governor. Haven't test battery time yet. Hope you know this issue, if you have the same problem.
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I'm wondering if you've check the cpu freq statistics. See my post above. If that's the common issue, than the stock rom maybe has trouble dealing with the cpu governor problem.
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Any news guys? Is your battery better when lowering frequecies ? I have also tried lowering them but no change
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Any news guys? Is your battery better when lowering frequecies ? I have also tried lowering them but no change
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Actually I'm not lowering frequencies, I use EX Kernel Manager to tune the interactive governor according to this post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3269557
After tuning the governor, it's about 4 hours SOT. Still not good compare to my Xperia Z3, but much better than before(about 2hr SOT)
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Any news guys? Is your battery better when lowering frequecies ? I have also tried lowering them but no change
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Well it's not perfect yet but switching off scanning for bluetooth and wifi helped me a lot(under location settings) Also L Speed & Greenify are helping.
Still looking for a way to turn off fast dormancy.
kistigun said:
Well it's not perfect yet but switching off scanning for bluetooth and wifi helped me a lot(under location settings) Also L Speed & Greenify are helping.
Still looking for a way to turn off fast dormancy.
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Actually I have my location always off
Hello all ,
I was about to buy an Exynos model and read somewhere on here that there was an update to fix battery life. Is this true and how much has it improved ?
Thanks
Personally I see much better battery life after the April security update. SOT gets about 6 hours of normal use.
i still haven't received the latest update, but my battery life is great
i get 8hrs of SOT
ARD 4 is latest firmware ?
From wich country ?
Tnx.
madvinegar said:
Personally I see much better battery life after the April security update. SOT gets about 6 hours of normal use.
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Trimis de pe al meu ASUS_P00I folosind Tapatalk
Never had a problem with battery life
narcis1974 said:
ARD 4 is latest firmware ?
From wich country ?
Tnx.
Trimis de pe al meu ASUS_P00I folosind Tapatalk
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Latest security patch, i.e. 1st April 2018
Reading Anandtech article, exynos does not seem to be a good choice unfortunately. I have read all about it after my devices was shipped today, might return it.
I will tell u the truth, i have snapdragon and 5 hrs of SOT , since 1 month so the battery life is almost same
5-6h SOT with 2 days of usage between each charge. But depends heaviliy on your usage.
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5-6h SOT with 2 days of usage between each charge. But depends heaviliy on your usage.
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Thanks, this is not bad at all for an exynos. This is really odd as some users claim they get much less like 3 hours SOT and 16 hours standby. Are you on BER5 btw.? Thanks
samitro said:
Thanks, this is not bad at all for an exynos. This is really odd as some users claim they get much less like 3 hours SOT and 16 hours standby. Are you on BER5 btw.? Thanks
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Yes, i am. I also changed some settings of the device and disabled a lot of apps to save some power, but im not using a power saving mode. Standby drain is still a bit high though with 3-4% in 7h.
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Yes, i am. I also changed some settings of the device and disabled a lot of apps to save some power, but im not using a power saving mode. Standby drain is still a bit high though with 3-4% in 7h.
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thx, 0.5% per hour on android is not that high I guess, good to know.
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thx, 0.5% per hour on android is not that high I guess, good to know.
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I'd like to know if you guys are using Facebook and Messenger apps. Tried it on a brand new unit without logging it in and the standby drain is less than 0.5% an hour. Installed those two because I actually need the Messenger (can't seem to greenify Facebook) and my standby drain is like 2% per hour.
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I'd like to know if you guys are using Facebook and Messenger apps. Tried it on a brand new unit without logging it in and the standby drain is less than 0.5% an hour. Installed those two because I actually need the Messenger (can't seem to greenify Facebook) and my standby drain is like 2% per hour.
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Nope, i do not use Facebook at all, only Whatsapp and Telegram. Facebook is known to be a battery killer. But i think there are official lite apps which significally reduce the power drain.
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Nope, i do not use Facebook at all, only Whatsapp and Telegram. Facebook is known to be a battery killer. But i think there are official lite apps which significally reduce the power drain.
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figured as much. I just envy how you can use those two because your contacts aren't dependent on Messenger.
samitro said:
Reading Anandtech article, exynos does not seem to be a good choice unfortunately. I have read all about it after my devices was shipped today, might return it.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
theymyron said:
figured as much. I just envy how you can use those two because your contacts aren't dependent on Messenger.
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With Messenger you mean the Facebook Messenger? Well no facebook, no friends at facebook to chat with .
I just dont like this company at all. The idea behind it is really cool, keeping people connected. But what they do with your data isnt. Not a tiny bit.
And if the trend goes on, WhatsApp will also be uninstalled someday. But this would be hard, since nearly no one uses an alternative messenger.
Whatsapp does the job for me and its much easier on the battery.
But back to the topic: Have you tried this Lite app?
Should be less stressfull for your battery.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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Sounds a lot like my usage, also the settings you have done. Did you also disable 4G active while on Wifi? Its hidden in the developer settings.
Otherwise im currently ~32,5h off the charger with 42% left. My screen usage is at 2h 22min, so maybe 4,5h overall in this run. But its not too bad cause of the overall runtime, as standby also drains the battery.
If im pushing the battery more without trying to achieve 2 days i have no problem getting to 6h of SOT.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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That sounds very similar to another poster here who is also having issues with dual sim battery drain. He also made the same comment about having better battery life with other "top of the line" phones. Interestingly, I thought you posted a screenshot of 8+ hours SOT with the exynos recently (and 15+ hours SOT with the snapdragon). So I suppose those figures weren't a good reflection of your "average" SOT? As now you're mentioning only half that SOT, despite quite a few tweaks too.
Question - it sounds like you have around 9-10 hours where you're not actively using the phone during a typical discharge cycle. Do you have a sense of what your hourly standby drain is (I asked the same question of the other person having issues and I think he mentioned about 1% or less drain per hour)? A good way of observing it is leaving the phone uncharged overnight. I'm just curious as to whether your relatively poor battery life is mainly due to excessive standby drain or excessive drain despite only doing light-moderate tasks. I ask this because, in my experience (and also with people like Galaxo60) and demonstrated in numerous battery drain video tests, heavy use (eg. GPS navigation with high accuracy) tends to drain the battery by around 10-15% per hour and very heavy use (complex games, video calling) tends to drain the battery by 15-20% per hour.
Assuming a standby drain of 1% per hour (which is on the high side with AOD disabled and a good wifi connection), you can see that even if you played a complex game for 2 hours (40%), then an hour later (1%) you did a video call for an hour (20%), then an hour later (1%) you spent 2 hours navigating Maps with GPS on high accuracy (30%), and then you went to sleep for 6 hours (6%), your battery would be down to about 2% over a total of 13 hours on battery with 5 hours SOT. I'm probably giving the high side of the estimated battery drain in each task too. And this should be without any significant tweaking (based on my experience, and unless those video tests forget to mention tweaking etc). It sounds like you don't do any of these heavy or very heavy tasks, and therefore your SOT should be more like 6-7 hours over 20 hours or so (just a rough guess to make the point).
So assuming your hourly standby drain is also around 1%, then the only thing I can think of is an app that you're using or a task that you're doing (or some specific combination of apps/tasks that exynos doesn't like?) that is draining the battery more than it should. Or throwing in a wild speculation, somehow there's a built-in kernel backdoor that activates while your screen is on and is secretly doing something that drains your battery more hehe (and of course doesn't show up in any battery stats).
I know the occasional poster has also mentioned having only 1-3 hours SOT, so you're not having the worst reported SOT I suppose. It would be interesting to know what the hourly standby drain for those people etc is too.
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That sounds very similar to another poster here who is also having issues with dual sim battery drain. He also made the same comment about having better battery life with other "top of the line" phones. Interestingly, I thought you posted a screenshot of 8+ hours SOT with the exynos recently (and 15+ hours SOT with the snapdragon). So I suppose those figures weren't a good reflection of your "average" SOT? As now you're mentioning only half that SOT, despite quite a few tweaks too.
Question - it sounds like you have around 9-10 hours where you're not actively using the phone during a typical discharge cycle. Do you have a sense of what your hourly standby drain is (I asked the same question of the other person having issues and I think he mentioned about 1% or less drain per hour)? A good way of observing it is leaving the phone uncharged overnight. I'm just curious as to whether your relatively poor battery life is mainly due to excessive standby drain or excessive drain despite only doing light-moderate tasks. I ask this because, in my experience (and also with people like Galaxo60) and demonstrated in numerous battery drain video tests, heavy use (eg. GPS navigation with high accuracy) tends to drain the battery by around 10-15% per hour and very heavy use (complex games, video calling) tends to drain the battery by 15-20% per hour.
Assuming a standby drain of 1% per hour (which is on the high side with AOD disabled and a good wifi connection), you can see that even if you played a complex game for 2 hours (40%), then an hour later (1%) you did a video call for an hour (20%), then an hour later (1%) you spent 2 hours navigating Maps with GPS on high accuracy (30%), and then you went to sleep for 6 hours (6%), your battery would be down to about 2% over a total of 13 hours on battery with 5 hours SOT. I'm probably giving the high side of the estimated battery drain in each task too. And this should be without any significant tweaking (based on my experience, and unless those video tests forget to mention tweaking etc). It sounds like you don't do any of these heavy or very heavy tasks, and therefore your SOT should be more like 6-7 hours over 20 hours or so (just a rough guess to make the point).
So assuming your hourly standby drain is also around 1%, then the only thing I can think of is an app that you're using or a task that you're doing (or some specific combination of apps/tasks that exynos doesn't like?) that is draining the battery more than it should. Or throwing in a wild speculation, somehow there's a built-in kernel backdoor that activates while your screen is on and is secretly doing something that drains your battery more hehe (and of course doesn't show up in any battery stats).
I know the occasional poster has also mentioned having only 1-3 hours SOT, so you're not having the worst reported SOT I suppose. It would be interesting to know what the hourly standby drain for those people etc is too.
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Where have you seen me posting 8+ hours with the exynos? It was of 6 hours and 50 minutes in the "screen on time" thread achieved when additional battery saving steps like bk package disabler disabling huge chunk of services and apps and keeping location in power saving mode. (bk no more working as it's removed from playstore and I went for factory reset after BRE5 update)
4 to 5 is the average sot with 13, 14 hours with few battery saving steps. No wakelocks no battery hogging applications.